SUBJECT: THE HILLL ABDUCTION CASE FILE: UFO2703 PART 2 Letter from Betty Hill: Scientists, working at top level government jobs. Their HOBBY was ufos. As a job protection for them, we agreed not to release their employment, altho it was well known to us. C D Jackson was never associated with Time/Life. We had continuing contacts with them. Jackson, in 1966, was still working in Alabama, at the same employment. Most of our friends were officers at Pease AFB. Usually, we all met at the Officers Club every Friday night. Barney's best friend was a Lt. Col. in Intelligence. Jim McDonald was a Major; also a friend who dated one of my best friends. Later they married. We visited each other regularly. Jim McDonald suggested hypnosis because our mutual friend, Capt. Ben Swett, officer at Pease, did this. Ben felt his type of hypnosis was not adequate, as he used only a light stage, which is the stage of suggestibility. Dr Ben Simon had left military service years before we met him and he was in private practice. Dr Stephans referred us to him because he knew he used medical hypnosis, taught in medical school, when Dr. Stephans had been one of his students. As for the movie, "Let Their Be Light" dealt with medical hypnosis used by Dr Simon to treat servicemen returning from WW2, and restoring them to good health. A wonderful movie - it should be released to the public. As for two therapists; we consulted one, one appointment. Barney was seen be Dr Duncan Stephans, but I was not. As for the cost of our appointments with Dr Simon, it is true he was very expensive. Our health insurance paid one-half of this. Bill was submitted for "therapy following ufo capture". We paid the remaining half, which was in the thousands of dollars. John Fuller did not learn of our experience from NICAP, or Donald Keyhoe. From them, he learned the information which resulted in his book, INCIDENT IN EXETER. He was in this area, gathering information for this, when the Boston newspaper articles were published. As for "Unpleasant Possibility" - Pure Paranoia! Nothing "sinister" about our experience or our friends. And the UFO definitely had nothing to do with New Mexico. It would be appreciated if you would send me a corrected copy for your computer. Nice to hear from you - Sincerely, Betty (signed) Betty Hill P.S. How I know those who captured us were not from New Mexico -- No alien-government base exists there. Apparently this story began when a woman in a light trance of hypnosis told of being taken there. Ed Conroy, a writer, and a friend Dora Ruffner did an investigation of this. They learned the locations of these so-called bases were located on the reservation of the Jicarilla Apache Tribe, a restricted area. So they met with the tribal leaders and obtained permission to research the areas, with guides and without them. They explored the areas. All they found was an abondoned water tower that had been used in the past when a railroad ran thru this area; also a house habited by an Apache family. No gravel roads, no towers, no government or any other kind of installations. Ed Conroy was the first person to research this report - He is a reporter on arts and electronic media for the San Antonio Express News. He should be included on your computer network. Betty Hill Date: Sat Jun 02 02:14:30 1990 I wrote to Mrs. Hill again and thanked her for her comments and asked if she would like to make a statement for the BBS regarding her experience, the following is her response. April 2, 1990 Dear Barbara Becker, I think probably the easiest way to answer your questions is to list the events as they occured. Let me say first, that in a case like ours, our conscious mind did not remember all, but our subconscious mind did. We considered the beginning of our capture was the time when Barney was standing in the field, watching the craft, when one of the humanoids said something to him, resulting in his panic and running back to the car, yelling they were trying to capture us. As we went speeding along the highway to avoid capture, we heard the beeping sounds, and the car vibrated. When Barney turned into a secondary road, I thought we knew a short cut on our way home, and did not question this. Then we saw what we called the moon setting on the ground. We assumed the moon was setting, and we could see the trees in front of this. The next, Barney turned onto a dirt road, in the direction of the setting moon. Before I could question him about this, we saw the men standing in the road, blocking our way - and we could not remember beyond this point. We remembered looking for the highway, but before we reached this, we saw the craft again as it passed over the secondary road in front of us. When we entered onto the main highway, we heard a second series of beeping sounds. And we came home, looking for the craft all the way and not seeing it. At home, Barney's first remark was "It is 5 o'clock, We should have been home by 3 AM at the latest." This time was from our kitchen clock, for both our watches had stopped running - this puzzled us, that both stopped about the same time. Barney began to unload our belongings from the car. We agreed they should not be brought into the house, so they were left on the back porch for a couple of days. Then we took long showers, shampoos for we felt "very dirty". We agreed that something had happened, we did not know what it was, but we could not talk about it. We would forget about it as quickly as possible. The next day I went out to my car, and found highly polished spots on the trunk in a circular pattern. I became very upset, saying maybe we had been exposed to something dangerous - the spots should be checked out. So I called my sister who called a physist who suggested checking the spots with a compass, which I did. When the compass was very erratic, I called my sister again to tell her of this. At that time a police officer was at her home, and I talked with him - told him about the night before. He said they had orders to tell witnesses to call Pease Air Force Base and report this sighting. So we called Pease and told them about the sighting, but ommitted about Barney seeing the humanoids. Our next step was to return to the Mountains, looking for a secondary road, the dirt road, thinking if we could find these, we could remember what happened after we saw the "men in the road". We went back regularly, in all kinds of weather, looking but not finding the dirt road. While we were there, we asked everyone we saw, if they ever saw any strange lights in the sky, received hundreds of reports - meeting with groups of 50 or more at a time, who told of their sightings, but none with an experience similar to ours, which we did not discuss. About six to eight weeks after this experience, we came home one night, and found on the kitchen table a pile of dried leaves. Our first response was - someone has been in our home! When I began to clean up the leaves, I found my blue ear rings I was wearing that night. That was panic - how did I lose them and who returned them? And how did they get into our home? Next was my dress. The second time I had worn this, and now it was covered with a pink powdery substance. I put it outside, and the powdery substance blew away, but it left pink stains all over my dress. Also the hem and some seams were torn - it had a built in lining - badly torn. To go back, to ten nights after this experience, I had a series of dreams, for five nights, of being captured, taken on board, given a physical exam. At that time, Barney worked midnight to 8 AM, so he was not here. I typed out these dreams and hid them, never discussed them until the time of our hypnosis with Dr. Simon. As for Hohman and Jackson, they had attended some kind of Geological Conference in Washington DC and met Donald Keyhoe there. After the Conference they told him they had a hobby, and interest in flying saucers (the term at that time) He let them read Walt Webb's report of his meeting with us. Hohman wrote to us, asking to meet with us. We agreed for at than time, we knew nothing about ufos, and we were quietly seeking some explanation for our expereince. Hohman was from New York, and Jackson was from Alabama, so we needed to wait until these two were together. When they were here, Barney told them about the humanoid saying something to him, which he could not remember - this was very upsetting to him. We told them about the setting moon just before we turned on to the dirt road. They said we could not have seen the moon, for it had already set. Panic by both of us. So they suggested we take a road map, and pinpoint our location at different times. We knew we had left Colebrook about 10 PM, the restaurant there. We were able to pinpoint the locations and times most of the way, but at one point between Plymouth and Ashland was a blank. So they suggested we go back to this general area. Then we talked about time - we could drive to Canada in seven hours, and it had taken us seven hours to come home from Colebrook. There had to be an explanation. Later this was called a missing time period. But right from the beginning Barney and I knew the trip home was much longer then it should have been. We continued to go back to the mountains, looking for the dirt road, asking people about their sightings. Then we began asking if anyone had ever seen the people aboard the crafts. No. No one knew Barney had seen them and remembered this. As for a hallucination, I was and am a trained social worker. I know the conditions which must exist for a hallucination to occur - for both people to have the same one, at the same time, does not happen. Dr. Simon confirmed this impossibility. As for the car incident, we both became upset at the same time, but I had already had my dreams. We were puzzled as to the reasons we responded the way we did. If we had not had all these upsetting events happen, without explanation, we would had never have spent thousands of dollars going to Dr. Simon. We went to him, to get rid of our anxieties, not for a ufo capture. He worked with us for seven months, every week. But I learned during these sessions when he was putting our amnesia back so we could not remember, that we must see him every week for him to reinforce the amnesia. If we did not do this, we would remember in about ten days - the same length of time, after this experience, that I had my dreams. Now I know I recalled these events, in my dreams, as a result of the lessening of their control of my memory. After our hypnosis, we went back to the area, and went directly to the secondary road, to the dirt road. Found the cleared area in the woods where the craft was down. Since that time, three labs have tried to analyze the pink stains on my dress without success. I agree with you the field of UFOlogy is filled with disinformation. They have done more to cover real activities by ufos than any other group. As for my social worker background, I know that insecure people have a terrible time with things they do not understand, and must develop an explanation, satisfactory to themselves, which usually is a fantasy. I dislike the term "missing time" for everyone has missing time. The human brain is incapable of remembering every little detail of our lives, every moment. No one can remember everything that happened yesterday. I have worked with those who have been captured, and with those who would like to think they were. Five were real captures, reported almost immediately to the police, and in three cases, they were at the emergency room at the hospital within three hours. Then for the others - five were beginning to be mentally ill, were committed, diagnosed, and treated. Later, one became a suicide. Then there are the hoaxes - I walked right thru the wall - how much did it cost for repairs? They call back in a few days, and tell me how they fooled the hypnotist by telling weird tales, which were believed. Finally, there are those who are led astray by auto-suggestion, called hypnosis, by those using it. I can take anyone, and in fifteen minutes, thru a simple exercise can give them a ufo capture. But I am sure that they know it is only a "Flight of Fantasy". But it is the same kind of "hypnosis" others are using. It is not the hypnosis we had. We had the kind that is used in surgery. I would like to see all those who use the wrong kind, try to do some simple medical procedures. So many try to copy my experiences, so Dr. Simon wrote a segment about hypnosis, the types, testing and characteristics. No one apparently read or understood this section, pages 82 thru 85, for they ignore this. Unfortunately it is ruining the field of hypnosis, which does have good medical uses. I went to a conference of so-called abductees. One told of her experiences, right out of Star Trek. She took on the part played by Capt. Kirk. Used the same names as in the tv program. Later we told her this, so she went back and had "hypnosis" again and came up with a different capture. Such success. Such fairy tales they tell. Thanks for letting me set the record straight. Some times I have heard my experiences told in such a way, I did not recognize it. Sincerely, Betty (signed) Betty Hill ********************************************** * THE U.F.O. BBS - http://www.ufobbs.com/ufo * **********************************************