#: 21100 S1/General Interest 08-Aug-95 06:39:44 Sb: #20732-Device Drivers Fm: Hautereau Martial 100607,600 To: Octec,Gary W Coutts 100447,423 hello I use too PEP computer with os0 v2.4 I surch progs witch running on pep like unfragmentor disk and zmodem protokol could you help me ? bye #: 21101 S1/General Interest 08-Aug-95 07:11:13 Sb: #21088-Ultra C V 1.2 Fm: Jochen Terasa 100421,2472 To: Jost Eberbach 73502,2041 (X) Hi Jost, >> I'm looking for a new job right now. Maybe somebody who reads this knows of an OS-9 related job for me? << In welcher Gegend residierst du denn? Grus Jochen -Joachim Terasa #: 21094 S1/General Interest 06-Aug-95 17:38:16 Sb: #21093-#FLASH EPROM MVME162 Fm: ole hansen 100016,3417 To: Jost Eberbach 73502,2041 (X) Hello Jost I just completed the first compile. The board (MVME162) I had at home, was MVME162FX, and it reports: Flash manufacturer code : 0h (0) Flash device code : 0h (0) This type of Flash Eprom is not supported yet The flash on the board is 1 chip: Intel 28F008SA-120 I would like to pay for the code, so I could use it for our customers, but only binary code to customers, no source. regards ole@danelec There is 1 Reply. #: 21095 S1/General Interest 07-Aug-95 08:50:21 Sb: #21094-#FLASH EPROM MVME162 Fm: Jost Eberbach 73502,2041 To: ole hansen 100016,3417 (X) Hi Ole, the codes you get don't make me feel confident that the flash utility would work on your board. You should at least get the Intel manufacturer code, not just a 0. It's too bad that I don't have a system here. Maybe, the addresses on 162FX or different from the the MVME162 boards that I was using. I know, that the memory architecture of the new type of MVME162, the one with the SCSI and the Ethernet connector onboard, is indeed different. Anyway, as far as I remember, the boards that I was using had four Intel chips, each with 256 kB flash eprom. That means that the utility cannot work for you, I would have to add the routines for that type of Flash, because it works quite different. If I had a development system and a board with those chips, I could do it for you. So, I don't really know what I can do about this right now. I could sell you the C-code that I have as is, or I could try and add the routines for the 1 MB chips. As I don't have a board here, I couldn't test them though. One option is, that I come to Copenhagen and test the code there, but your company would have to pay for my travel expenses. Too bad, that I didn't add the routines for the 1 MB chip in the first place, but at that time I thought that I would do it when I got a board with the chips, because writing code without being able to test it is not what I consider good practise. Sorry for not having better news, Jost There is 1 Reply. #: 21097 S1/General Interest 07-Aug-95 17:19:09 Sb: #21095-FLASH EPROM MVME162 Fm: ole hansen 100016,3417 To: Jost Eberbach 73502,2041 (X) Hello Jost I have some info, I feel I better email directly to you. regards ole #: 21099 S1/General Interest 08-Aug-95 01:14:10 Sb: #Processors Fm: Nathan S. Marler 102520,3043 To: SYSOP (X) What computers still use the 68000 series chips? There is 1 Reply. #: 21105 S1/General Interest 11-Aug-95 07:51:02 Sb: #21099-Processors Fm: Marc Tritschler 100344,2706 To: Nathan S. Marler 102520,3043 Nathan, Many single height VME processor cards use 68000 series processors, from 68000 to 68040. Also, the 68000 based 68302 processor is used in many single board computer systems and as the processor in intelligent serial comms cards. Marc. #: 21103 S1/General Interest 08-Aug-95 17:23:39 Sb: #midi copywrighting Fm: Richard w. safford 102455,440 To: all Is there a way to copywright music sequences direct online? There is 1 Reply. #: 21104 S1/General Interest 10-Aug-95 01:14:36 Sb: #21103-midi copywrighting Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376 To: Richard w. safford 102455,440 (X) Music you create is copyrighted at the time you create it. To register the copyright, though, you have to submit the proper paperwork to the Library of Congress, and that can not be done online. Wayne #: 21107 S1/General Interest 11-Aug-95 12:38:57 Sb: Graphics Card Fm: Steve Hock 74167,3300 To: All If anyone is looking for a graphics card to run X-windows under OS-9, I have found one from PERITEK Corp. that works well. It is a "smart" graphics card - meaning that the keyboard, mouse and video drivers are downloaded on bootup and run on the graphics card. The only thing that runs on the CPU is a stub program to hand off information to your application. Hopefully, PERITEK will have an interrupt driven stub, currently their stub is a polling version. I have it working on a FORCE and Heurikon based systems, but I believe it is also ported for Motorola. I used to run Vigra products, but they have sinced dropped their support for OS-9. I highly recommend it. Steve #: 21108 S1/General Interest 11-Aug-95 22:56:29 Sb: MM/1 For Sale Fm: Ernest Withers Jr. 71545,1117 To: ALL For Sale: Complete MM/1 System, S/N 120848 with IMS manuals Includes: IMS Slimline case & power supply I/O board OS-9/68000 v2.4 with Microware manuals 3 megabytes RAM 4 serial ports (/t0, /t1, /t2, & /t3) 2 parallel ports (/p & /p1) 2 1.4MB floppy drives 105 MB Quantum hard drive 101 key XT/AT switchable keyboard Logitech 3 button Series 9 serial mouse Magnavox 8CM515 color monitor MM/1 Technical Manual Software: FHL's FBU & FRS backup/restore software (Includes original FHL's DynaStar & DynaForm for 68000 disk & manual) BGFX Fontasee font editor WriteRight word processor Speedisk disk defragmenter Ved, Vprint, & Vmail EthaGUI Desktop TasCOM ColorSystems Game Pack Lots of public domain software All serious offers will be considered, preferably for the complete system but I will consider breaking it up. I'll bring everything to the Atlanta 'Fest if anyone is seriously interested. If interested, leave E-Mail. Ernest Withers CIS: 71545,1117 Delphi: ERNIEWITHERS #: 21109 S1/General Interest 12-Aug-95 09:54:18 Sb: New Rates Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: ALL [from a CompuServe press release] COMPUSERVE IS CHANGING...RIGHT BEFORE YOUR EYES - PRICES SIMPLIFIED AND REDUCED - INTEGRATED INTERNET ACCESS - - NEW WOW! SERVICE ANNOUNCED - - NEW, LEADING-EDGE GRAPHIC INTERFACES - - EASY, FUN, AFFORDABLE - EFFECTIVE SEPT. 10 -- SIMPLE, LOW PRICES -- FORUMS, MAIL, INTEGRATED INTERNET INCLUDED * Membership fee: $9.95 per month. Monthly pricing includes five free hours to almost all of CompuServe; additional hours $2.95 each * Popular areas such as Internet mail, special-interest forums and e-mail included in new low pricing * For first month of membership, no membership fee and 10 free hours of online use * Another option: super value club membership fee $24.95 per month. Online pricing for club members includes 20 free hours; additional hours $1.95 each COLUMBUS, Ohio, Aug. 1, 1995 -- Making a bold move in the rapidly expanding online services arena, CompuServe Incorporated today announced a new pricing plan for the CompuServe Information Service and the Internet. CompuServe also announced a phased introduction of a new consumer online service for novice computer users. "Our members and market research have told us that CompuServe's content, quality, global nature and service levels are highly valued but that most people want a simpler pricing structure and some would like an easier-to- use interface," said Robert J. Massey, CompuServe president and CEO. "We're giving them what they want." The world's only global commercial online service announced that, effective Sept. 10, its connect-time fee will significantly decrease to $2.95 per hour from $4.80 per hour. The CompuServe membership fee remains at $9.95 per month. And now, members also will get five free hours of access to almost all of CompuServe. Subsequent hours will be billed at $2.95 per hour. For its more active members, CompuServe will offer a super value club. Members who choose to pay a $24.95 monthly membership fee will be billed at $1.95 per hour and will receive 20 hours of online time each month at no charge. New members do not pay the monthly membership fee during their first month of use. They also receive 10 free hours to explore the service that month. Free introductory memberships, including software for either Windows, Macintosh or OS/2, are available to new subscribers by calling 1-800-524-3388. Membership kits that include a free membership along with additional documentation and other valuable support materials are also available through major computer retailers and software stores. "We have more and higher quality services to offer than anyone else. We have a dependable, rapidly expanding global network, and now we have easy-to-understand, low pricing. We invite potential members to explore CompuServe free and we are confident that they will select us as their online service provider. For those who are currently members of competing services, we believe they will quickly decide CompuServe is the place for them to be," Massey said. MOST SPECIAL CHARGES ELIMINATED Under the new pricing, more than 90 percent of CompuServe's 3,000 online services and 1,000 forums will be available with no special surcharges. Some premium research databases will continue to carry an extra charge, as they do with all online services. "We don't want to limit the content available on the service to what we can include for $9.95 per month," Massey said. Premium services will be clearly marked and members will easily understand the fees charged for them. An example of such services is Magazine Database Plus, a database of more than 200 popular and niche publications offered by Information Access Company, which charges a small fee for each article downloaded. Another example is Disclosure, which charges fees for financial and disclosure reports for publicly traded companies. In response to member requests, there will be no extra charges for Internet mail. "If a member wants to spend five hours in a music forum, he can do that. If a member wants to spend five hours cruising the Internet, she can," Massey said. "We want to offer the greatest flexibility and the best value for our members." Comparison Chart Pricing Plan Changes Features Old Plan New Plan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Monthly Membership $9.95/month; $9.95/month; Fee and Online $4.80/hour for $2.95/hour after 5 Charges extended services free hours Free Hours Included Unlimited access to 5 hours of almost in Online Pricing 120 basic services anything online except premium services; basic services no longer differentiated Electronic Mail 90 3-page messages Mail pricing based were included; solely on connect- extra charge for time; no extra Internet mail charge for Internet mail Internet Access 3 free hours; $2.50 All access based on for each additional connect-time hour Super Value Club Did not exist $24.95/month membership fee; $1.95 per hour after 20 free hours (As a reminder, the new CompuServe pricing plan is effective September 10th). #: 21110 S1/General Interest 12-Aug-95 09:58:27 Sb: MAIL Enhancements Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: ALL FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Jeff Shafer CompuServe Incorporated 614/538-4571 or 614/538-4553 COMPUSERVE(r) MAIL DELIVERS THE BEST: ON-LINE LEADER INTRODUCES NEW FEATURES, ELIMINATES SURCHARGES COLUMBUS, Ohio, August 7, 1995 -- CompuServe Mail, the world's largest electronic mail system, is enhancing its service and eliminating virtually all mail surcharges to meet growing demand for high quality, reliable e-mail delivery. Based on advanced computer architecture, the new e-mail system will provide cutting-edge technology to a global market, offer users exciting new capabilities and contain the flexibility to handle the rapid growth of e-mail volume. "We are making changes in our product and service that will strengthen our position as the worldwide leader in electronic mail," Rob Mainor, Vice President, Product Marketing and Business Information Services. "Electronic mail is rapidly becoming one of the most popular means of communication for individuals and businesses. CompuServe is making aggressive moves as we prepare for a future in which e-mail is as common as a phone call." MAIL SURCHARGES ELIMINATED As part of an overall price restructuring of the CompuServe Information Service, CompuServe Mail is eliminating additional charges for nearly all of its services. "For years, cost has been an important issue with our customers. We are responding to their needs. I want to make it very clear that with this announcement, sending messages through CompuServe Mail becomes not only the fastest and most reliable method of communication, but also the most cost effective," added Mike Finney, CompuServe Mail Products Manager. As of September 10, 1995, there will be no surcharges on mail sent or received via CompuServe, over the Internet or through a variety of other gateways. Further, all charges relating to the size of the message and the number of recipients have been eliminated. Some services such as telex, fax and post office mail will continue to be charged separately. PERSONAL ADDRESSES CompuServe members will soon select easy-to-remember personal addresses, using names to supplement their numeric addresses. For example, John Doe could be reachable at 78531,222 or JOHNDOE. Personal addresses can be up to 32 letters or numbers (and can include the "_" underscore). Current CompuServe members will be invited to register for their personal addresses beginning this month, with the roll- out expected to be completed by November 1995. COMPUSERVE MAIL MANAGER The CompuServe Mail Manager(SM) offers sophisticated features to empower members to Stay In Charge(SM) of their electronic mail. One feature, Smart Rules(SM) is an easy-to-use, customizable message filtering system that allows members to define in advance how categories of messages are to be handled. For example, one might specify that all messages be forwarded to an alphanumeric pager, a fax machine, an Internet mailbox or any e-mail address to which CompuServe provides connectivity. Either the full message text or a summary can be forwarded. Smart Rules can be used to set up message filters to route or forward only messages sent from a specific ID, such as the member's supervisor or spouse. They can be defined so that all messages marked "High Importance" are forwarded. Likewise, all messages from a specific sender could automatically be deleted. Up to 10 rules can be established, then selectively turned "on" or "off" by the member as desired. AUTOMATIC REPLY The CompuServe Mail Manager also will include the capability to reply automatically to messages. This is especially useful if a member is on vacation or otherwise out of touch with e-mail. E-mail messages received during that time could automatically receive a reply alerting them to that person's unavailability. MULTIPURPOSE INTERNET MAIL EXTENSIONS SUPPORT Future enhancements to CompuServe Mail include Multi- purpose Internet Mail Extensions (MIME) support, which will allow members to send and receive binary files over the Internet. This capability, coupled with a new message size limit of 10 megabytes (previously messages could be a maximum of 2 megabytes), will eliminate almost all limits on what can be transmitted via CompuServe Mail over the Internet. WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY CompuServe has formed cooperative relationships with the four largest mobile pager organizations, MobileComm, PageNet, PageMart and SkyTel, allowing members to receive e-mail messages on their alphanumeric pagers. This wireless communication gateway, coupled with Smart Rules, enables pager users to Stay In Charge of the information that is vital to them -- anytime, anywhere. CompuServe Mail is the world's largest and oldest public electronic mail system, with more than 150 million messages exchanged during 1994 through more than 20 mail gateways, including Internet, MCI, AT&T Mail, cc:Mail, Notes, MHS, Fax, telex and postal. Message traffic is more than tripling annually. CompuServe, the first service to provide an e-mail connection to the Internet, is also its largest single message carrier to the Internet, exchanging up to eight million messages per month via the Internet. The CompuServe Information Service continues to be the world's most successful and most popular online service, with 3.3 million members accessing its 3,000 services from 150 countries. The undisputed industry leader in innovation, the service offers global email, the industry's first CD-ROM supplement, libraries of free software, 28.8 kbps access and worldwide Internet services. CompuServe is recognized globally for its international membership and diverse content. For a free introductory CompuServe membership, call 800-524-3388 and ask for representative number 664, or send an email message to USAINFO@CompuServe.com. Or access CompuServe's home page on the World Wide Web (http://www.compuserve.com). In addition to the CompuServe Information Service, CompuServe offers networking, electronic mail and business information services to major corporations worldwide. CompuServe is an H&R Block (NYSE: HRB) company. # # # #: 21111 S1/General Interest 12-Aug-95 14:40:12 Sb: #Win 95 Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: all Hey, all Has anyone seen the Win-95 Demo CD? I saw part of it recently.. Hey, did you know that, according to the demo, you can actually take Win-95 and start printing something and then, go back and do something else while you are STILL PRINTING THE DOCUMENT? YES! Isn't that amazing? In the demo, they say, "It isn't magic.. It's Win 95" What will they think of next? Have any of you heard of anything so amazing as being able to do TWO WHOLE TASKS on your computer AT THE SAME TIME??? Hard to believe, isn't it? I also saw a review of Win 95 in the Aug US News & World Report. About multitasking, they say, ".. You can have two or three programs, or more, open at once. " It will still occasionally crash - ... - but most users will find multitasking works most of the time." ^^^^ Heh heh.. I guess as long as it works -part- of the time, it's better than not at all.. Just think about it, a concept that's been pretty well perfected what - 15 years? and they still haven't got it right. Maybe someday... -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** There is 1 Reply. #: 21120 S1/General Interest 14-Aug-95 19:11:41 Sb: #21111-#Win 95 Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: David Breeding 72330,2051 (X) Yes, its TRUE. Microsoft has finally invented Multitasking. Even "Rush" got into the subject, commenting that Windows 95 will do for the MSDOS users what he has been able to do on his beloved MAC for years. Welcome to the club, Rush. *** Uh-oh, I used the "R" word --- flame alert!*** The world of marketing is a wonderous thing. I have a relatively up-to-date messydos machine next to this MM/1. It's a toy for playing with CD Multimedia programs and experimenting with various opsystems. Right now, it runs MSDOS/Win3.1, OS2, OS-9000, and Linux (Coherent got pushed off the disk by OS-9000). I would say that "DOS/Windows" is about fifth best of those op-systems, but it is the BEST SELLING system there is. Go figure. X-Windows with Linux is pretty impressive, but it won't show me that Koala on the Zoo CD and let me hear him munching leaves, and the free AOL Web browser I got in the mail kind of assumes I have a Windows machine or a MAC. Likewise the free CIS "information manager" that appeared in my mailbox. BTW, I just did a little speed comparison with a complicated PostScript demo using my port of Ghostscript on the MM/1 and the version ported to Linux. Hmmm. It seems that a 486DX4/100 CAN do things faster than a 16 Mhz 68340. I need a 68040 OS-9 box. Or maybe buy the G-Windows developer's system from Ed and port Ghostscript to it. JohnW There is 1 Reply. #: 21139 S1/General Interest 17-Aug-95 21:01:56 Sb: #21120-Win 95 Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) > Yes, its TRUE. Microsoft has finally invented Multitasking. > Even "Rush" got into the subject, commenting that Windows 95 will do for > the MSDOS users what he has been able to do on his beloved MAC for years. Yes, In the article I quoted, they had a little sidebar comparing 95 to the Mac. Kind of a game of catch-up, sounds to me like. > *** Uh-oh, I used the "R" word --- flame alert!*** Nahh, not from me > The world of marketing is a wonderous thing. I have a relatively > up-to-date messydos machine next to this MM/1. It's a toy for playing > with CD Multimedia programs and experimenting with various opsystems. > Right now, it runs MSDOS/Win3.1, OS2, OS-9000, and Linux (Coherent got > pushed off the disk by OS-9000). I would say that "DOS/Windows" is about > fifth best of those op-systems, but it is the BEST SELLING system there > is. Go figure. It's marketing miracle. I was bragging about the features of OS-9 to a lady on our local BBS. She asked what's so great about OS-9. She was not being sarcastic, she just didn't know. But every time she tries to install something on Windows, it's a major hassle. Of course I must admit that our apps don't do what those of DOS will, but I prefer to have a system that will do a "little" well than one that will do a "lot" poorly. > X-Windows with Linux is pretty impressive, but it won't > show me that Koala on the Zoo CD and let me hear him munching leaves, and > the free AOL Web browser I got in the mail kind of assumes I have a > Windows machine or a MAC. I will probably add a PC or Mac to my setup sometime, just for what you mention above. Something I have considered doing is writing a RIP Graphics comm program. I wonder if anyone would be interested in having RIP capability. Of course, it would have to be platform specific. I had thought about possibly putting all the screen output into functions in a separate file, that way if anyone wanted to port it to an MM/1, all they would have to do would be edit the functions in this file and it should be pretty much automatic. I would not want to do all this for just myself, though, and it may be a pretty formidable task. I have not begun yet. > Or maybe buy the G-Windows > developer's system from Ed and port Ghostscript to it. Yes! I have the dev-pak. I have just been a little sluggish in getting started in trying to learn it. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** #: 21112 S1/General Interest 13-Aug-95 12:13:08 Sb: #Seek Error #247 Fm: Clinton Huber 75112,3015 To: all Help! About a month ago I decided to upgrade my hard disk with with another one that would give me about 30 megs more storage. I purchased a Seagate ST-157R (RLL) hard drive and a Western Digital WD1004-27X (RLL) controller. I use the Burke & Burke interface with a Multi-pak. The problem is in formatting the hard drive. I get Seek Error #247 when it tries to do the logical format after the low level format. The hard disk and controller format ok on an IBM clone system. I have tried different options on the controller card with no help. Reading through some of the Burke & Burke documentation it appears that the software may be at fault. The documentation states that "version 2.5 drivers correctly initialize both old and new controllers". I have version 2.4b. Could this be the problem? If so where can I get an updated driver? I have been unable to contact Chris Burke so far on Compuserve, and his phone number in Maple Valley WA seems to be disconnected. There is 1 Reply. #: 21115 S1/General Interest 13-Aug-95 21:48:31 Sb: #21112-Seek Error #247 Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: Clinton Huber 75112,3015 (X) > Help! About a month ago I decided to upgrade my hard disk with with > another one that would give me about 30 megs more storage. > . The > problem is in formatting the hard drive. I get Seek Error #247 when it > tries to do the logical format after the low level format. The hard disk > and controller format ok on an IBM clone system. Could it be possible that this drive might have fewer tacks or sectors than the previous one? That is, assuming that the error is actually a Seek Error.. I think my Disto returns Seek Error when it is actually another error. However, assuming it is actually a seek error, you might check the specs and then compare it with your device descriptor (you can use "dmode" for this) and see that it is not trying to seek past the tracks or sectors available on the new drive. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** #: 21114 S1/General Interest 13-Aug-95 17:58:42 Sb: AR for MSDOS in lib 9 Fm: John Murphy 73077,2305 To: ALL I've just uploaded AR 1.4 for MSDOS to lib 9, with Carl's permission. Any questions or complaints about this version should be directed to be me, John Murphy 73077,2305, and not to Carl. Have fun! John Murphy #: 21125 S1/General Interest 15-Aug-95 12:25:42 Sb: Ultra C V 1.2 Fm: Jost Eberbach 73502,2041 To: Jochen Terasa 100421,2472 (X) Hi Jochen, irgendwie war mir die message verschollen gegangen, deswegen die spate Antwort. Ich lebe jetzt in Huttenberg, einem kleinen Dorf in der Nahe von Giessen. Nicht schlecht hier zu leben. Ohne Auto ist man aber aufgeschmissen. Hier im Dorf ist nicht viel los. Ich erinnere mich von einer fruheren message, Du hast eine Firma namens ComIng. Tja, wenn ihr da noch eine Stelle frei hattet, ware ja super! Ciao, Jost #: 21117 S3/Languages 14-Aug-95 08:25:45 Sb: #21064-#C++ and OS9 Fm: Joerg Thomas 100554,2305 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) Hi John (or all), >>The OS9 port of the GNU GCC (C and C++) compiler can be found on chestnut.cs.wisc.edu. The latest version, (2.5.8) may still be in the "incoming" directory. If you get them, be sure to get the gclib_2.5.8 archive too -- it is included in the others, but the version there is a damaged archive.<< I was not able to get access to this server via compuserver. Please give me a short instruction how to get the access. Thank you for your efforts ! Joerg There are 2 Replies. #: 21121 S3/Languages 14-Aug-95 19:34:16 Sb: #21117-#C++ and OS9 Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: Joerg Thomas 100554,2305 (X) > >>The OS9 port of the GNU GCC (C and > C++) compiler can be found on > chestnut.cs.wisc.edu. The latest > > I was not able to get access to this Joerg, The anonymous login to "chestnut" was disabled recently, apparently by accident. According to messages I have seen, the people in charge are aware of the situation and will fix it. (Soon, I hope). John Wainwright There are 2 Replies. #: 21123 S3/Languages 15-Aug-95 06:59:14 Sb: #21121-C++ and OS9 Fm: Joerg Thomas 100554,2305 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) John, thank you for the quick answer. I'll have another try. Joerg #: 21124 S3/Languages 15-Aug-95 11:35:08 Sb: #21121-#C++ and OS9 Fm: Joerg Thomas 100554,2305 To: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 (X) Hi John, >> The anonymous login to "chestnut" was disabled recently, apparently by accident. According to messages I have seen, the people in charge are aware of the situation and will fix it. (Soon, I hope).<< Again, I was not able to get access to "chestnut". Is there another possibility to get the OS9 port of the GNU GCC (C and C++) compiler? Thank you Joerg There is 1 Reply. #: 21136 S3/Languages 16-Aug-95 17:53:25 Sb: #21124-#C++ and OS9 Fm: ole hansen 100016,3417 To: Joerg Thomas 100554,2305 (X) hello Joerg I think there is a site in Switcherland called lucy.unibas.ch. Again latest version might still be in 'incoming' .... regards ole There is 1 Reply. #: 21138 S3/Languages 17-Aug-95 05:35:14 Sb: #21136-#C++ and OS9 Fm: Joerg Thomas 100554,2305 To: ole hansen 100016,3417 (X) ole, thanks for the information. Joerg There is 1 Reply. #: 21142 S3/Languages 18-Aug-95 18:26:21 Sb: #21138-#C++ and OS9 Fm: ole hansen 100016,3417 To: Joerg Thomas 100554,2305 Hello Joerg I wonder if you enabled the rombug-functions before booting. All the 102-errors you then see, it when the bootcode looks for hardware not present or is probing memory according to the memlist setup in the bootrom. when this list is bigger than actual memory, then .. 102 on every chunksize-boundary, where there is no memory ... If OS9-kernel has booted, and the version is higher than 2.3, and you see messages on the screen, then your serial os9-driver is working, as from 2.4, all error-messages is send to the screen via the OS9-driver and NOT the rom-routines !!!! regards ole There is 1 Reply. #: 21143 S3/Languages 18-Aug-95 18:30:34 Sb: #21142-C++ and OS9 Fm: ole hansen 100016,3417 To: ole hansen 100016,3417 (X) Hello Joerg I was a little offset regarding whom I answered. Thhe last message was ment for Bas de Jong regards ole #: 21127 S3/Languages 15-Aug-95 18:31:01 Sb: #21117-#C++ and OS9 Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Joerg Thomas 100554,2305 (X) Jorge, You may be able to access the chestnut files from the mirror at wuarchive. The site name is wuarchive.wustl.edu and the directory is in: /systems/os9 Look for "chestnut" and investigate the directory tree beneath. Wuarchive is a very busy site, so if at first you don't succeed ... *- Steve -* There is 1 Reply. #: 21133 S3/Languages 16-Aug-95 04:32:07 Sb: #21127-C++ and OS9 Fm: Joerg Thomas 100554,2305 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Steve, >>You may be able to access the chestnut files from the mirror at wuarchive. The site name is wuarchive.wustl.edu and the directory is in: /systems/os9 Look for "chestnut" and investigate the directory tree beneath. Wuarchive is a very busy site, so if at first you don't succeed ...<< Thank you for the hint. I was very successful. Joerg #: 21126 S3/Languages 15-Aug-95 14:25:57 Sb: #68020 without fpu Fm: bas de jong 100573,2001 To: 76703,4255 (X) LS, I am using os9 currently on a (home-build) 68000-system, but implementing a 68020 system, without a co-processor. When booting (via kernel020), traps occur, because of the fact that co-processor instructions are executed. After creating a bus-error when addressing the fpu, trap1111 errors occur (which is in fact quite logical). Is it possible to use native 68020-code (kernel020), without using a fpu? If so, I assume I'll have to emulate, but is this code available? Hope for an answer, feeling or whatsoever, Bas de Jong, Amsterdam There is 1 Reply. #: 21137 S3/Languages 16-Aug-95 18:00:26 Sb: #21126-#68020 without fpu Fm: ole hansen 100016,3417 To: bas de jong 100573,2001 The 020-kernel does not need fpu to run, but you might use a 68000 cio or csl, where you should use the 020-version. Also, if you build your own boot-rom, the boot.a-code tells the kernel what cpu-type you are running with. What version are you using (2.4 or 3.x ??) If you are executing code made by Ultra-C, as a part of the boot, then you need to include the fpu-module in the boot-file and the init-module hope this help somehow regards ole@danelec.dk There is 1 Reply. #: 21144 S3/Languages 18-Aug-95 18:32:00 Sb: #21137-68020 without fpu Fm: ole hansen 100016,3417 To: ole hansen 100016,3417 (X) Hello Bas de Jong Please read my message to Joerg about your booting problems. It was ment for you. Sorry for this. regards ole #: 21116 S5/OS9 Users Group 14-Aug-95 08:01:16 Sb: #fsave Fm: Steve Hall 100631,375 To: All Hi, I am tring to use fsave for the first time to back a hard disc to an exabyte tape drive. On using the command: fsave a message returns some time later: fsave: backup dates file has an improper format. Any suggestions as to how I can overcome this. Regards Steve Hall There are 2 Replies. #: 21118 S5/OS9 Users Group 14-Aug-95 17:59:06 Sb: #21116-#fsave Fm: ole hansen 100016,3417 To: Steve Hall 100631,375 (X) Hello Steve You need to have an empty file in /h0/SYS called backup_dates (or /dd/SYS). Do the following: del /h0/sys/backup_dates (if there is a garbage one already) touch /h0/sys/backup_dates You should now be ready for do backup. REMEMBER to turn of pause on your screen output( tmode nopause) if you don't want to hit a key, at every screen-pause regards ole@danelec.dk There is 1 Reply. #: 21132 S5/OS9 Users Group 16-Aug-95 02:33:10 Sb: #21118-#fsave Fm: Steve Hall 100631,375 To: ole hansen 100016,3417 (X) Worked fine thanks Regards Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 21135 S5/OS9 Users Group 16-Aug-95 17:43:28 Sb: #21132-fsave Fm: ole hansen 100016,3417 To: Steve Hall 100631,375 Hello Steve You are welcome. regards ole #: 21122 S5/OS9 Users Group 14-Aug-95 20:02:39 Sb: #21116-#fsave Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: Steve Hall 100631,375 (X) Try deleting the file "backup_dates" in /dd/sys and create an empty file with touch backup_dates If you don't have the file fsave isn't smart enough to create it either...something they don't mention in the docs. There is 1 Reply. #: 21131 S5/OS9 Users Group 16-Aug-95 02:32:17 Sb: #21122-fsave Fm: Steve Hall 100631,375 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Worked fine thanks. Steve #: 21106 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 11-Aug-95 12:22:55 Sb: #Hard Disk Formatting Fm: Clinton Huber 75112,3015 To: Chris Burke Help! About a month ago I decided to upgrade my hard disk with with another one that would give me about 30 megs more storage. I purchased a Seagate ST-157R (RLL) hard drive and a Western Digital WD1004-27X (RLL) controller. I use the Burke & Burke interface with a Multi-pak. The problem is in formatting the hard drive. I get a Seek Error #247 when it tries to do the logical format after the low level format. The hard disk and controller combination format ok on an IBM clone system. I have tried different options on the controller card with no help. Reading through some of the Burke & Burke documentation it appears that the software may be at fault. The documentation states that "version 2.5 drivers correctly initialize both old and new controllers". I have version 2.4b. Is this the problem? Any help you can offer would be appreciated. There is 1 Reply. #: 21119 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 14-Aug-95 18:34:12 Sb: #21106-Hard Disk Formatting Fm: Paul Tesch 73500,3703 To: Clinton Huber 75112,3015 (X) It's been a few years, but when I first tried using a B&B with an RLL drive I couldn't get the combination of low level and logical formats to work. I ended up doing the low level format on a PC and then doing only the logical format under OS9. #: 21113 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 13-Aug-95 12:14:04 Sb: Seek Error #247 Fm: Clinton Huber 75112,3015 To: all Help! About a month ago I decided to upgrade my hard disk with with another one that would give me about 30 megs more storage. I purchased a Seagate ST-157R (RLL) hard drive and a Western Digital WD1004-27X (RLL) controller. I use the Burke & Burke interface with a Multi-pak. The problem is in formatting the hard drive. I get Seek Error #247 when it tries to do the logical format after the low level format. The hard disk and controller format ok on an IBM clone system. I have tried different options on the controller card with no help. Reading through some of the Burke & Burke documentation it appears that the software may be at fault. The documentation states that "version 2.5 drivers correctly initialize both old and new controllers". I have version 2.4b. Could this be the problem? If so where can I get an updated driver? I have been unable to contact Chris Burke so far on Compuserve, and his phone number in Maple Valley WA seems to be disconnected. #: 21129 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 16-Aug-95 01:20:51 Sb: #Error Code #247 Fm: Clinton Huber 75112,3015 To: 72330,2051 (X) I already had made a new Device Descriptor using Burke & Burkes DDMAKER to match the new drives characteristics which I had taken off the Data Sheet from the manufactorer. However after reading your note I did some more checking and found something that was not mentioned in the Seagate hard drive documentation. On unrelated Seagate documentation for two of their controllers ST11M and ST11R it stated that "user cylinders are calculated from logical zero, ie 0 to 614 equals 615 cylinders". This drive has 615 cylinders so I changed the number of cylinders to 614 in the device descriptor thinking that the Burke & Burke driver maybe trying to format cylinders 1-615. Cylinder 615 wouldn't exist of course. Now the drive comes back with error code #241 (the specified sector is out of range) when it attempts to do the logicl format. I think I'm closer to the solution. Incidentally the WD1004-27X RLL controller DOES format my old Seagate ST-124 (MFM) hard drive without any seek errors but the old drive wasn't designed for RLL and comes back with read or write errors occasionally. The errors usually disappear after a second read or write attempt. This is not good, and is part of the reason I would like to get the new drive up and running. Thankyou for your help. Any more help you or anyone else can offer is appreciated. :) There is 1 Reply. #: 21141 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 18-Aug-95 00:55:15 Sb: #21129-Error Code #247 Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: Clinton Huber 75112,3015 > On unrelated Seagate documentation for two of > their controllers ST11M and ST11R it stated that "user cylinders are > calculated from logical zero, ie 0 to 614 equals 615 cylinders". This > drive has 615 cylinders so I changed the number of cylinders to 614 in the > device descriptor thinking that the Burke & Burke driver maybe trying to > format cylinders 1-615. Cylinder 615 wouldn't exist of course. Now the > drive comes back with error code #241 (the specified sector is out of > range) when it attempts to do the logicl format. I think I'm closer to > the solution. Did it stall on the low-level format before? It seems that I read an article somewhere about someone trying to format a drive and he had it set too high, maybe like you, and he found that when the HD was formatting, when it came to that too high track number it would loop back and try to format track 0. I think he did what you did. It could be that this particular Disk formats itself with the first sector as 1, thus when you try to do the logical format, when it commands the HD to seek to Track 0, it of course cannot find it. There may be a command to make it low-level format starting with either 0 or 1. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** #: 21130 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 16-Aug-95 01:28:05 Sb: Error Code #247 Fm: Clinton Huber 75112,3015 To: 73500,3703 (X) Thanks for the information Paul. Although I prefer not to follow the route you had to, I may have to. I will keep it in mind. Clint #: 21134 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 16-Aug-95 14:28:41 Sb: Sale Fm: Mike Fahy 74656,2340 To: All From: mikefahy@third-wave.com (Mike Fahy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy Subject: Tandy Equipment For Sale or Free to a Good Home Date: Wed, 16 Aug 1995 17:50:52 GMT Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Message-ID: <40st3h$bs1@news.third-wave.com> I have run out of room and have a large bunch of old Tandy Computers for sale or free . . I just refuse to give it to the landfill so make any kind of offer for all or part of this stuff. If you live in Western PA, you can come and get it and I will help you load your vehicle. (2) TRS80 Model I's w/monitors. (1) TRS-80 Model 1 Expansion Interface. (3 at last count) External Disk Drives (1) TRS80 Model III (1) TRS80 Model IV w/green screen and 128K w/ External 5 1/4 & 3 1/2 (2) Color Computer III's w/512K (1) CM-8 Color Monitor for Coco III (1) Coco Multipak Interface (Many) Coco Cartridges, including Software Paks, RS232 Paks, Sound Cards, Disk Controllers, Modem Pak, etc. etc. (1) Disto Super Controller w/RS232 Interface. If you don't know what this is, you don't need it. (1) Seagate 30 Meg SCSI Drive for Disto Interface formatted with OS9 Level 2 and quite a bit of software. You frunish the power supply. Tons of Software for all above computers. Respond via email on CIS or to above internet address.-- Mike Fahy mikefahy@third-wave.com #: 21096 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 07-Aug-95 11:34:13 Sb: #OS-9 for MVME333 Fm: Manfred Berger 76570,2207 To: All Does anybody know if there's a version of OS-9 that runs on the Motorola MVME333 serial communication board ? Best regards, Manfred Berger There are 2 Replies. #: 21098 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 07-Aug-95 17:22:02 Sb: #21096-OS-9 for MVME333 Fm: ole hansen 100016,3417 To: Manfred Berger 76570,2207 (X) Hello Manfred From the sources I have, I think you can get it directly from Microware. The z8530-driver has ifdef's for MVME333 in it. regards ole@danelec.dk #: 21102 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 08-Aug-95 11:07:38 Sb: #21096-OS-9 for MVME333 Fm: Mark Wuest 76702,2253 To: Manfred Berger 76570,2207 (X) Ole is correct - Microware did a port to it for a company I worked for a few years back. If *they* don't there is a consultant in Connecticut (Bill ?) who does - they should have his name... Mark #: 21128 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 15-Aug-95 23:13:17 Sb: #NeedHelpToTrapError107!? Fm: David A. Ferguson 73737,2471 To: all Help!, I need to know how to trap a floating point error. Currently my program is aborted when the result of a floating point operation 'under flows' to zero. The following program will generate the error on my system (which is an Allen-Bradley 1771-DMC): void main () { float g; for (g = 1.0; ; g /= 3.1415) printf("g=%g\n", g); } Following are the last few lines that are printed before the program is dumped. g=1.62876e-37 g=5.18466e-38 g=1.65038e-38 Error #000:107 $ Error 107 is documented to be: E_TRAPV /* TrapV instruction TRAP 7 occurred */ Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks...David There is 1 Reply. #: 21140 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 18-Aug-95 00:55:07 Sb: #21128-NeedHelpToTrapError107!? Fm: David Breeding 72330,2051 To: David A. Ferguson 73737,2471 > Help!, > > I need to know how to trap a floating point error. Currently my program > is aborted when the result of a floating point operation 'under flows' to > zero. > > void main () > { > float g; > > for (g = 1.0; ; g /= 3.1415) > printf("g=%g\n", g); > } > > Following are the last few lines that are printed before the program is > dumped. > g=1.62876e-37 > g=5.18466e-38 > g=1.65038e-38 > Error #000:107 > $ I tried the same thing (using MW cc 3.2), and got the same thing as you did. However, changing the variable to a double eliminated that error, for some reason. Here's the output at the time it got so small it started to just print zero's: g=1.84685e-307 g=5.87888e-308 g=1.87136e-308 g=0 g=0 g=0 Error #000:003 <<< I hit CTRL-C I let it run for some time, and it never did error. Dunno if this will help or not, but maybe.. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Composed with InfoXpress/OSK Vr. 1.02 & VED Vr. 2.4.0 *** Press !>