read new nonstop follow 90766 22-NOV 03:50 System Modules (6809) RE: RBF (Re: Msg 90760) From: ISC To: RICKULAND > (Sorry guys, but this needs to be in the thread) > > > or adding a super-lubing additive such as Dura-Lube....... > > Excellent text, but one caution- bikes often use the > engine oil as clutch coolant! Under no circumstances should a > 'Slick50' type additive be used with an oil bath clutch! Doing so > is an invitation for repeated clutch failure until all that crap > finally rinses out 20 plates down the road.. > -ricku > > Rick Ulland CoNect > rickuland@delphi.com 449 South 90th St. > "Operating System Nine"- 268m Milwaukee WI 53214 > You are correct about the caution, Rick. I have only owned an Italian 250cc - it's so long ago that I remember almost nothing about it. However, a penetrating lubricant such as the new "moleculars" would probably glaze and render the clutch inop. "...until all that crap finally..." wears out - moleculars are NOT going to rinse out - at LEAST "...20 plates down the road.." if that clutch uses the engine oil as clutch coolant. Thanks. Bill -*- 90770 22-NOV 21:55 System Modules (6809) RE: RBF (Re: Msg 90763) From: DSRTFOX To: WDTV5 Funny you should mention a GS1000G.. that's my current ride! Like it with the WindJammer on it! I've yet to have a serious wreck of any kind on a bike at all... maybe I'm just a little more respectful than some??? I really only started serious riding about 8 years ago... old enough to not try any of the dare-devil stunts, just a little "extra throttle" every now and then.... ;> -*- End of Thread. -*- 90767 22-NOV 04:18 General Information RE: VGA (Re: Msg 90675) From: LARRYOLSON To: HAWKSOFT Chris, > No .wav support yet. But, sooooon!!! Thanks to Colin MaKay for providing > the WAV file format info. > > :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: Is the next version still open for requests ? Could you add a quick record menu option ? It would work something like this.. The QUICK record function would be initially disabled, until the frequency and length have been set for the first time, then it would be enabled. Clicking on the QUICK record option would use the same settings that were entered the last time the REGULAR record function was called. Just a little step saver. ----- Larry Olson ----- -*- 90779 24-NOV 22:22 General Information RE: VGA (Re: Msg 90767) From: HAWKSOFT To: LARRYOLSON > Could you add a quick record menu option ? It would work something > like this.. > > The QUICK record function would be initially disabled, until the > frequency and length have been set for the first time, then it would > be enabled. Clicking on the QUICK record option would use the same > settings that were entered the last time the REGULAR record function was > called. Just a little step saver. > > ----- Larry Olson ----- > Hi Larry! Yeah, sounds like a good idea! I'll take a look in the source code and see how work-able it would be. Tho I think I might assign some defaults for use if the current settings aren't changed. Like 2 seconds at 1125 hertz (Many files I've seen use that speed). Chris :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM ******************< Uploaded w/ InfoXpress vr. 1.02.00 >****************** -*- 90814 27-NOV 13:50 General Information RE: VGA (Re: Msg 90779) From: LARRYOLSON To: HAWKSOFT > Tho I think I might assign some defaults for use if the current settings > aren't changed. Like 2 seconds at 1125 hertz > (Many files I've seen use that speed). Chris, Sounds good, (is that a pun?), I have been playing around with different things trying to get some good sound effects recorded and I find having to select the menu, select record, type 'y', then enter the same speed and time values that I have been entering for the last hour. Would it be possible to add another button for the quick record, so that you wouldn't have to go through the pull-down menu. You could have a record setting option in the pull-down that lets you set the values for quick record or the default settings, and then you would only need to click on the button to start recording. Was that 1125 hertz or 11250 hertz, I'm suprised at the low sample rate. Ok, Chris, give it some thought, I know that you are currently working hard on the CD read routines, and I don't want to pull you off that, but I also know that programmers like to get feedback on their programs. On a related subject, there was some talk about some change in ss_record to allow the use of memory outside of the 1 meg video ram, has this been done yet ? That "can't get enought memory" prompt is a bummer on a 9 meg machine ;-) Larry ----- Larry Olson ----- -*- 90826 27-NOV 21:41 General Information RE: VGA (Re: Msg 90814) From: HAWKSOFT To: LARRYOLSON Hi Larry!! Yeah, it was supposed to be 11025 hz!! And I'll look at waves as soon as I get some time ! Chris :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM ******************< Uploaded w/ InfoXpress vr. 1.02.00 >****************** -*- End of Thread. -*- 90768 22-NOV 20:52 OSK Applications CD Rom Drives From: HAWKSOFT To: ALL Hi All! I've found a source for refurbished external CD Rom Drives (bare, so to speak). Using these drives (CDR25J), I would be able to sell a complete Plug and Play CD Rom Kit. Would anyone (everyone?) be interested??? Kit would include: External NEC CD Rom Drive Power Supply Adapter Cable (from internal SCSI cable to back-plane mount DB-25. Mounts in printer cut-out on back of computer.) External Cable (from DB-25 to CD Rom Drive) Descriptor Driver File Manager Audio CD Software ( Virtual CD Player ) Cost would run about $150 complete incuding U.S. Shipping. Requires OSK computer with a WD33c93 (or WD 33c93A) SCSI interface. If there is enough interest, I can have them available in a few weeks. Chris :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM ******************< Uploaded w/ InfoXpress vr. 1.02.00 >****************** -*- 90775 24-NOV 03:57 OSK Applications RE: CD Rom Drives (Re: Msg 90768) From: EDELMAR To: HAWKSOFT Chris, I'll take one. You want a check or credit card? Ed -*- 90776 24-NOV 08:41 OSK Applications RE: CD Rom Drives (Re: Msg 90768) From: BILLDICKHAUS To: HAWKSOFT Chris, I'm interested. -Bill- -*- 90782 24-NOV 22:59 OSK Applications RE: CD Rom Drives (Re: Msg 90775) From: HAWKSOFT To: EDELMAR > Chris, > > I'll take one. You want a check or credit card? > Hi Ed! That's what I like, a man of few words with money!!! Seriously, I can't take credit cards, so, send me a check. I'll order the drives and cables and adapter cable parts for a few tomorrow, and should be ready to ship in about 2 weeks!!! Send your check ($150 shipping and handling included) to: HAWKSoft 244 S Randall Rd. Suite #172 Elgin, Il 60123 Thanks!! Chris :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM ******************< Uploaded w/ InfoXpress vr. 1.02.00 >****************** -*- 90783 25-NOV 00:21 OSK Applications RE: CD Rom Drives (Re: Msg 90782) From: RANDYKWILSON To: HAWKSOFT Chris, add me to the list. Smail will go out tomorrow, unless you'd prefer email. :> Randy -*- 90790 25-NOV 22:04 OSK Applications RE: CD Rom Drives (Re: Msg 90783) From: HAWKSOFT To: RANDYKWILSON > Chris, add me to the list. Smail will go out tomorrow, unless you'd > prefer email. :> > > Randy > Randy: See my latest message. My supplier sold out almost immediatly, so I won't be able to supply the CDRom drives. Chris :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM ******************< Uploaded w/ InfoXpress vr. 1.02.00 >****************** -*- End of Thread. -*- 90769 22-NOV 21:51 General Information RE: OS9/Intel (Re: Msg 90751) From: DSRTFOX To: MACFADZEN (NR) I might add that the PowerPC version is now being shipped as a developers kit only, for the time being. -*- 90771 23-NOV 00:47 General Information RE: New CD-i Stuff (Re: Msg 90746) From: AJMLFCO To: BOISY I noticed that you said you "ordered" some CD-I titles. I live in a smaller town and would like to find a mail order outlet for CD-I titles (would'nt it be neat if Columbia House or BMG started carrying CD-I titles.) I just picked up a Magnavox CD-I and the Digital video cartridge at Price-Costco. Allen Morgan -*- 90773 23-NOV 23:20 General Information RE: New CD-i Stuff (Re: Msg 90771) From: WA2EGP To: AJMLFCO (NR) If Phillips is up to par with following up, you might get an ad from them. I received one where they offer the FMV cartridge at $250 and I would get a movie or music video free. I got my Maggie on the clearance table at Radio Shaft for about $200 (some have gotten it cheaper). -*- 90784 25-NOV 06:32 General Information RE: New CD-i Stuff (Re: Msg 90771) From: BOISY To: AJMLFCO (NR) > I noticed that you said you "ordered" some CD-I titles. I live > in a smaller town and would like to find a mail order outlet for CD-I > titles (would'nt it be neat if Columbia House or BMG started carrying > CD-I titles.) I just picked up a Magnavox CD-I and the Digital > video cartridge at Price-Costco. Hey Allen, Glad to hear that you picked up a CD-i player. Did you get the 550 model? There are several companies that have discount prices on titles. One is called Video F/X, but I don't have their number right now. Perhaps someone with an issue of CD-i Magazine can look it up and post their number? Philips does have an order line; however, they sell titles at full retail price, so it is advantageous for you to find a reseller who sells below retail. Here's a message that you might find interesting: ******************************** #: 49748 S6/Philips CD-i Mon 31-Oct-94 17:03:54 Sb: #CD-i Software Support Fm: Lucy Lediaev [Philips] 72056,1130 To: All Dear Forum Members, I am pleased to announce that as of today, Monday, October 31, 1994, a group at Philips Interactive Media in Los Angeles is responsible for all support of Philips Media CD-i and CD-ROM software products in the United States. (Those outside the US should obtain support from the Philips organization in the local country.) The telephone number for this group is 800 340 7888; this is the number that will be on software packaging in the US from now on. This new group is comprised of experienced CD-i software support personnel, a PIMA product test veteran and some new employees. We are able to answer gneral consumer questions about CD-i, about specific titles in both CD-i and CD-ROM formats, about title availability, and we can take orders, and give gameplay hints. We can also send an information package to prospective developers. Phone hours for the new software support group are 9 a.m. to 6 p.m. M, T, W, and F; 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. on Thursday, and 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. on Saturday, Pacific Time. Please let me know if you have any comments or questions about US phone support for Philips CD-i and CD-ROM titles. We look forward to supporting our CIS forum friends, Lucy Lediaev Director, Customer Support Philips Interactive Media P.S. CD-I hardware and accessory support is available from Philips Consumer Electronics at 800 531 0039. ***************************** -- Boisy G. Pitre__ __ __ Delphi: BOISY |_ _| \ \/ / CompuServe: 74464,3005 I use... _| |_ > < Internet: boisy@os9er.waukee.ia.us |_____|NFO/_/\_\PRESS 1.2.0 OS-9 -- King of Operating Systems -*- End of Thread. -*- 90772 23-NOV 00:53 General Information RE: CDRom stuff (Re: Msg 90758) From: AJMLFCO To: HAWKSOFT Chris, Will your CDRom File manager be driver independent? That is, will it work with systems other than MM/1 such as Kix, VME, Gespac? Just wondering how narrow your market focus was, Allen Morgan -*- 90774 23-NOV 23:23 General Information RE: CDRom stuff (Re: Msg 90758) From: WA2EGP To: HAWKSOFT Keep an eye on email for my beat-n-bash results. -*- 90781 24-NOV 22:59 General Information RE: CDRom stuff (Re: Msg 90772) From: HAWKSOFT To: AJMLFCO (NR) > Chris, > Will your CDRom File manager be driver independent? That is, > will it work with systems other than MM/1 such as Kix, VME, Gespac? > Just wondering how narrow your market focus was, Hi Al!! I'm hoping that it is driver independant (in true OS9 fashion)!! Ed Gresik is trying it out on the System IV & V. And, Bob D der P is going to give it a go on a VME system. I've got my fingers crossed!!!! Chris :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM ******************< Uploaded w/ InfoXpress vr. 1.02.00 >****************** -*- End of Thread. -*- 90777 24-NOV 10:17 General Information Turkey Day-CoCo3 Sale From: RICKMAC To: ALL Happy Thanksgiving to all! The holiday season is here again, thanx to everyone for making the "CoCo experience" very interesting and informative. Will be putting up a 512K/6309 CoCo3 system for sale. anyone interested? Will post a classified within the week. Comes with a Magnavox monitor and almost everything else 'cept a hard drive and a printer. Also have an "F" board CoCo2 with 64K. All details will be in the classified ad I will post. Rick McNabb -*- 90778 24-NOV 16:47 Applications (6809) RE: 8-bit chips (Re: Msg 90486) From: GLOCKR To: AJMLFCO (NR) I got it in the mail about 2 weeks ago but didnt see the forum until today. Thank you very much for the app note:) BTW do you know of any company producing a kit based on the 6809? Thanks Glockr -*- 90820 27-NOV 20:01 Applications (6809) RE: 8-bit chips (Re: Msg 90778) From: DSRTFOX To: GLOCKR (NR) You can write Motorola and get any of their spec sheets. The only 6809 boards made at this time are controller boards. I do have the address of one company who makes a board that uses simple address decoding. Marty Goodman (MARTYGOODMAN) has been working on converting one to nearly emulate a CoCo so that a CoCo could be used as a development system. It wouldn't be able to address all RAM though (32K max, I think). -*- End of Thread. -*- 90780 24-NOV 22:45 General Information RE: Chicago CoCo-Fest (Re: Msg 90718) From: THESCHU To: DISTO Hello Tony. YES!!! Please do make it! You my if you need to send it here that will be no problem. I doo want to purchase the 2meg upgrade as do others, and some of your other products. Brian -*- 90807 26-NOV 14:51 General Information RE: Chicago CoCo-Fest (Re: Msg 90780) From: DISTO To: THESCHU (NR) I may not have any 2-Meg or any other things left for the show. Only single digit quantities of 2-Meg left. You may want to order now in mail-order. -Tony. -*- End of Thread. -*- 90785 25-NOV 09:42 System Modules (6809) RE: TESTCLOCK (Re: Msg 90762) From: DONALDS To: WDTV5 Hi Gene; I have been able to do most of the blob patches but still am having trouble with getting boot6_sl_63 patch to work When i try to reboot it will start loading ( I start with a floppy then most of the boot is from HD- moved CC3GO) then it will do alittle loading from the HD then hangup. So I am still working with that. I noticed in your first MYRAM file that when I install the driver then do a IDENT onit where it should show 6809 obj code it shows (????) and when I do a MDIR E it will show - r.?. - in the attr column. The ram disk works fine but does show thise. I also wondered shouldn't there be at least 1 cylinder allocated in the r0 module When I do a dmode on /r0 i get cyls=0 sectrk=5760 (etc). I could not find your krnlutils in the data base. Don -*- 90793 26-NOV 02:37 System Modules (6809) RE: TESTCLOCK (Re: Msg 90785) From: WDTV5 To: DONALDS The weird ident is because ident doesn't recognise a module which is set in its atrv and tyla bytes to be a native mode 6309 coded module. The same comment re mdir e. I wonder what dmode you are using, its not doing it the same as mine obviously. cyls should be 0 ok, but sectrk in mine is 'sct' and it reports in hex insteada decimal. Thats the only variable that actually counts though. As far as the krnlutils goes, I'll check the database and get back to ya in a sec. Cheers for now, Gene -*- 90794 26-NOV 02:40 System Modules (6809) RE: TESTCLOCK (Re: Msg 90785) From: WDTV5 To: DONALDS Back Don, its in 'dat sys' under the handle of WOAY as the submitter. I was shareing an account with Jim Martin, the CE at WOAY at that time. Its about 2.5 screens down from the top of the list. Cheers, Gene Heskett, WDTV5@delphi.com -*- 90800 26-NOV 10:05 System Modules (6809) RE: TESTCLOCK (Re: Msg 90785) From: MIKE_GUZZI To: DONALDS if you running native mode, i skipped the 6309 patch for the BOOT module on my main CoCo i didn't need to BLOB proof it at all since im using Sdisk 3.3-DMC for my disk driver. My Second CoCo3 was the BLOB problem I just replaced the cc3disk module with the patched one. I went through and changed the ty/la back to 6809 object since ident couldn't identify it. I have not seen the BLOB on the second coco since then I also noticed replacing the RBF module with edition 33 (6309, multicluster and undel) i got 18 second megareads from both hard disks, where before only the first hard disk would do 18 sec, go figure! (im using a Ken-ton SCSI interface with SCSISYS 2.0) -*- 90825 27-NOV 21:34 System Modules (6809) RE: TESTCLOCK (Re: Msg 90800) From: WDTV5 To: MIKE_GUZZI (NR) Hi Mike; I take it that rbf ed33 is working for you. I hadn't heard, which I guess is good news! 18 seconds for both drives is also good, I wonder what I did to make them equal speeds. Thats 13 secs on my own Maxtor 7120s here, so I must come to the conclusion that the disto is quicker, unless this Maxtor is. I doubt that inasmuch as the drives are all able to move 250+k a second when tied to an Amiga, and often in the megabyte/sec area! BTW, my 'vfy' will properly identify those modules with the 'munged' atrv and tyla bytes! Theres a LOT it can do if you haven't yet checked it out. Glad to hear its working for someone else besides me. Have you reformatted one of them for mutliple sector clusters yet, or were you already doing them with ed 28? Cheers, Gene -*- 90835 28-NOV 08:56 System Modules (6809) RE: TESTCLOCK (Re: Msg 90793) From: DONALDS To: WDTV5 (NR) Thanks for the help Gene. After I sent the message to you I went to the data base and searched again and found the first VFY and krnlutils. I have been working with it some but keep getting a boot that I can't format with. Don -*- 90836 28-NOV 08:58 System Modules (6809) RE: TESTCLOCK (Re: Msg 90800) From: DONALDS To: MIKE_GUZZI (NR) Thanks for the info. Where can I find RBF33 at ? Is it here in the data base? don -*- End of Thread. -*- 90786 25-NOV 14:26 System Modules (6809) RE: printers (Re: Msg 90685) From: TIMKIENTZLE To: MARTYGOODMAN Actually, I don't think I would buy a $399 laser printer. I've found that with some computer equipment, you really do get what you pay for! I have a suspicion that an equivalently-priced inkjet would be much better quallity and much more reliable. - Tim -*- 90791 25-NOV 22:30 System Modules (6809) RE: printers (Re: Msg 90786) From: ISC To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR) > Actually, I don't think I would buy a $399 laser printer. I've found > that with some computer equipment, you really do get what you pay for! > I have a suspicion that an equivalently-priced inkjet would be much > better quallity and much more reliable. > > - Tim > I agree Tim. Epson and others have just released the new versions of their inkjets which have significantly improved performance. Check them out. Bill -*- 90803 26-NOV 14:03 System Modules (6809) RE: printers (Re: Msg 90786) From: DBREEDING To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR) > Actually, I don't think I would buy a $399 laser printer. I've found > that with some computer equipment, you really do get what you pay for! I just don't know what to think. I paid $439 for an Epson LQ-870, thought I'd go with the "best". It had a 2 year warranty, and would you believe? 2 years and ONE month the logic board went out, or so the service people said. A replacement, refurbished board was about $230 installed. With so much invested in the printer, I felt I almost had to try to get my money's worth. I could have bought almost 3 cheaper printers for the original cost and the repair cost. I've decided that it might be best to just buy cheaper printers and "Timex" them when they go bad. Of course, lasers might be a different story. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ -*- 90819 27-NOV 18:56 System Modules (6809) RE: printers (Re: Msg 90786) From: MARTYGOODMAN To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR) Tim, I really am not familiar with what the output of the current lowest priced xerographic printers looks like. HOWEVER... I can say that IN GENERAL, I've never seen a decent, working xerographic printer output (300 dpi standard minimum) that EVER looked worse than the very BEST 300 or 360 dpi ink jet output. This because the ink jet process, tho refined considerably, still produces a characteristic "ink blurring". This makes print out, in my opinion, always poorer than xerographic (laser or LED) printers. ---marty -*- 90823 27-NOV 20:17 System Modules (6809) RE: printers (Re: Msg 90819) From: DSRTFOX To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR) Tim, the only problem with low-cost laser printers is the print speed and low memory. They usually have no more than 512K and print at 4 pages per minute. If you do a lot of printing, lasers are MUCH cheaper than any other printer. Drawback is high initial cost and cost of new cartridges ($70 or more) . Cartridges print 5,000-10,000 pages though, sometimes more. If you are using the laser for text based applications, the memory is no problem. Add on average $150 for an additional meg of memory if you want to do graphics from an IBM compatible, or wiat a LONG time!! Ink jets don't stand up well to lots of use. With lasers now coming closer to ink-jet prices, the only consideration is space. The small lasers can't be as compact as the ink-jets. The only other problem with lasers is the possibility of jarring the mirrors and other parts when moving. So if you move it a lot, get an LED laser printer. These use a laser LED array rather than a rotating mirror and are much more robust and compact. I work with a lot of lasers here on the USAF base. We have many old Wang LBP-8 printers (old LJ II clones) that probably have millions of pages on them already with no problems other than cleaning and maybe some paper feed rollers. Inkjets, on the other hand, don't stand up to that kind of use. Our 2 year old printer has almost 20,000 pages on it (actually about 20 months old). It has only gone through two $80 cartridges (this is a big 15 ppm printer!). -*- 90834 28-NOV 05:43 System Modules (6809) RE: printers (Re: Msg 90803) From: EDELMAR To: DBREEDING (NR) > I just don't know what to think. I paid $439 for an Epson LQ-870, thought > I'd go with the "best". It had a 2 year warranty, and would you believe? > 2 years and ONE month the logic board went out, ... Sounds to me like someone at EPSON should be fired - supposed to fail after 2 years and one DAY . Seriously, I've stuck with OKIDATA for dot matrix printers. I have a couple that are almost 10 years old and still perform quite well - just replace ribbons. They're used in the store and get pretty heavy use on a daily basis. Re Lasers - I have a TANDY 950 which I used for quite a while. Supposed to be HPL2 compatible and it was, mostly. Recently, I got an HP 4+. Some of the code I used wouldn't work right - found that the TANDY wasn't compatible in those areas. Also had similar problems with several clients that used laser printers that were supposed to be HPL(n) compatible. Not all laser printers claim HP compatibility. But, I don't believe HP is the standard although some laser printer manufacturers claim compatibility. Don't know that there is a 'standard' for printer languages. As to reliability, most lasers use the same engine and I haven't run into problems with the engines. Paper handling is different for each manufacturer and some seem to have more problems than others. But I've had no problems with either the TANDY or the HP. I think the big difference between the various manufacturers will be the availability of supplies; the toner cartridge and/or drum. Several of my clients have tried third party toner cartridges (so have I) and have been unhappy with the results. Part of the decision regarding purchasing a laser printer is to consider the availability of parts and supplies many years down the pike. Ed -*- End of Thread. -*- 90787 25-NOV 14:29 General Information RE: VGA (Re: Msg 90730) From: TIMKIENTZLE To: HAWKSOFT Isn't it rather odd to have `attr' claim that CD-ROM files are _writable_?? - Tim Kientzle ;-) -*- 90789 25-NOV 22:04 General Information RE: VGA (Re: Msg 90787) From: HAWKSOFT To: TIMKIENTZLE (NR) > Isn't it rather odd to have `attr' claim that CD-ROM files are > _writable_?? - Tim Kientzle ;-) > Yeah, I'll probably change that. It seemed simpler for copying to the Hard Drive. You didn't have to change it to DED the files. Chris :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM ******************< Uploaded w/ InfoXpress vr. 1.02.00 >****************** -*- End of Thread. -*- 90788 25-NOV 19:31 OSK Applications CD Rom Drives From: HAWKSOFT To: ALL SORRY All! Due to an unforseen problem (the supplier is sold out!!) I will not be able to supply the CDRom kits I was hoping to offer (see msg # 90768). Tho if I can find another source, (based on your response) I'll pick up a few immeadiatly!! I can, however, still offer the software: Descriptor, Drivers, and File Manager with the audio player (VCDP) for $50 shipping and handling included. And the Adapter Cable (connects internal SCSI cable to external DB-25 for $25 shipping and handling included. The External Single Speed SCSI CD Rom drives are available from smaller retailers (see Computer Shopper etc.) for around $100 or so. Sorry Again! Chris :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> :-> Chris "HAWKSoft" <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: <-: Delphi: HAWKSOFT Internet: HAWKSOFT@DELPHI.COM ******************< Uploaded w/ InfoXpress vr. 1.02.00 >****************** -*- 90792 26-NOV 00:24 General Information RE: printer cable (Re: Msg 90745) From: WRHAMBLEN To: WAYNETHOMPSO Wayne, Here's what came out of my Epson printer manual and "Upgrading and Repairing PCs": direction . 25 pin end description from PC 36 pin end . 1 strobe* output 1 . 2 data 0 output 2 . 3 data 1 output 3 . 4 data 2 output 4 . 5 data 3 output 5 . 6 data 4 output 6 . 7 data 5 output 7 . 8 data 6 output 8 . 9 data 7 output 9 . 10 ack* input 10 . 11 busy input 11 . 12 paper out input 12 . 13 select in input 13 . 14 auto feed* output 14 . 15 error* input 32 . 16 reset* output 31 . 17 select* output 36 . 18-25 ground 19-30 * means active low. Hope this helps. Not all these connections are required for the printer to print. My PT68K-4 (Delmar System IV motherboard) talks to an Espson printer through a cable has only data, ground, strobe and ack connected. Bud -*- 90804 26-NOV 14:08 General Information RE: printer cable (Re: Msg 90792) From: WAYNETHOMPSO To: WRHAMBLEN Thanks for the info! Thanks, Wayne -*- End of Thread. -*- 90795 26-NOV 09:48 General Information RE: Multiboot. (Re: Msg 90687) From: MIKE_GUZZI To: CHARLESAM What I do is have multiple bootfiles is use the utility "Blink" to change boots. I usually keep three bootfiles on disk. -*- 90828 27-NOV 23:06 General Information RE: Multiboot. (Re: Msg 90795) From: CHARLESAM To: MIKE_GUZZI (NR) Thanx Mike, I'll check it out. Charlie -*- End of Thread. -*- 90796 26-NOV 09:50 General Information RE: mini expansion bus (Re: Msg 90688) From: MIKE_GUZZI To: WAYNETHOMPSO According to the info I have on the disto. The Disto port uses the address range $FF40-$FF5F. remember the disk controller (even the RS one) isn't decoded properly so it ghosts several times in the map. There is an alternative! If you want to mount the PIA inside the CoCo itself with one chip you can fully decode the internal pia, and then use one of its ghost slots for a new PIA. -*- 90805 26-NOV 14:23 General Information RE: mini expansion bus (Re: Msg 90796) From: WAYNETHOMPSO To: MIKE_GUZZI Mike, The information I have in my SC2 manual says that the MEB (mini expansion bus) is 8 bytes mapped into $FF50 to $FF57, which is not normally available due to the ghosting. The SC2 properly decodes this area. Your alternative sounds intrigueing! I have heard of such a mod, ie piggybacking a PIA on the coco motherboard but I haven't had the addresse for the internal PIA's and where they ghost to. Since eventually I am going to upgrade an old style RS controller to do high density, I was going to build both parallel port cards, one to mount in the SC2 and one thats plugs into the MPI for when I finally do the HD hack. (Your PIA file has been very instructional and was the inspiration for building the PIA card for my SC2!) Could you give me some more info on the internal PIA? Thanks for your help! Thanks, Wayne -*- 90809 26-NOV 23:17 General Information RE: mini expansion bus (Re: Msg 90805) From: MIKE_GUZZI To: WAYNETHOMPSO Well its slightly different for a CoCo1 vs CoCo3. The CoCo3 isn't as bad with ghosting. The CoCo3 ghosts go like this $FF00 pia ghosts to $FF04,$FF08,$FF0C $FF20 pia ghosts to $FF24,$FF28,$FF2C this means the A2,A3 lines need to be accounted for. the internal PIA's don't use CS1, its tied high, so cut the trace out of CS1 then take a NOR gate and feed A2,A3 into the inputs, the output goes to CS1. That fully decodes the PIA. Then is pretty simple to piggyback a new PIA into the old ghost slots. -*- 90812 27-NOV 12:48 General Information RE: mini expansion bus (Re: Msg 90809) From: WAYNETHOMPSO To: MIKE_GUZZI (NR) Mike, Just to make sure I understand, after I fully decode the Internal PIA, The ghost locations are then free? Looking back in what little information I have about the piggyback PIA, didn't someone come up with a file describing this modification in detail? I seem to remember someone talking about it on FIDO but I can't remember their name. Do you know where I could get that file. z Thanks, Wayne -*- 90831 28-NOV 03:10 General Information RE: mini expansion bus (Re: Msg 90796) From: COCOKIWI To: MIKE_GUZZI (NR) The DISTO is ported at $FF50-FF5F.....$FF40-$FF4F is the Controller! The FF50 is located in the Mini Port....it decodes ALL the plugin,,s that Disto offered at one time! The CoCo-3 is decoded a little better than it was! -FF03 -FF04-FF1F PIA - 0 MIRRORED FF20-23 -FF24-FF3F PIA - 1 ----- FF40-5F -FF60-FF7F NOTE: IF MC2 IS SET TO 0 SCS IS NOW SET TO FF50-5F FF40-4F IS NOW INTERNAL...... TANDY could have come out with a box with the Disk system in the case! mc2 is bit 2 FF90 1=STD MODE SCS 0= EXTERNAL scs now FF50-5F Just thought I,d add some here! Mike! chears!Hic..dennis -*- 90832 28-NOV 03:20 General Information RE: mini expansion bus (Re: Msg 90805) From: COCOKIWI To: WAYNETHOMPSO (NR) read my Note I tagged on to Mikes message! The CoCo-3 believe it or not has a built in decoder for the Disk area... When BIT 2 FF90 is changed to a low the output SCS line is now setup as FF50-5F......the other FF40-4F is off a spare pin on the 138...internal! I built a disk system into my old coco 1 way back..ORG controller with an extra board attached with switched EPROM...Sound port...Serial port...I decoded the FF40-5f to FF40-4F and opened up the FF50 - 5F area using the FF40 scs line......SO! I am VERY knowlagble in this area!having done it. regards Dennis -*- End of Thread. -*- 90797 26-NOV 09:54 General Information RE: My cursor!? Those darned dots! (Re: Msg 90722) From: MIKE_GUZZI To: 01GEN40 try this display 5 21 1b 21 >/w7 that will re-enable the cursor and do a window select -*- 90798 26-NOV 09:56 General Information RE: My cursor!? Those darned dots! (Re: Msg 90724) From: MIKE_GUZZI To: DBREEDING The "C" designation IE 63C09 means it can run up to 3mhz. the B means 2mhz part, and no letter means 1 mhz part. Basically the same for our parts: 6821 vs 68B21, 6809 vs 68B09. same part just tells you how fast it can go. Mike -*- 90801 26-NOV 12:23 General Information RE: My cursor!? Those darned dots! (Re: Msg 90735) From: DBREEDING To: AJMLFCO (NR) > If Hatachi followed the same numbering system their chips would > be as follows: > > 63A09 = 1.0 Mhz > 63B09 = 2.0 Mhz > 63C09 = 3.0 Mhz > > I guess I can't prove any of this since I have long > since disposed of all of my 8-bit Motorola books. Apparently you're right, judging from all the other replies to the post. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ -*- 90813 27-NOV 13:34 General Information RE: My cursor!? Those darned dots! (Re: Msg 90732) From: 01GEN40 To: DBREEDING (NR) Hi David, Thanks for the reply. I am not too worried about the amount of time I spend on-line. I average about 12-13 hours a month. I am on the 20/20 Plan and have figured that I would spend more if I were on the 4/10 Plan. I like to go "net surfing" alot. As for the modem, I have not had a chance to check into it. I will try the command you have suggested though. Well, gotta go. See ya. LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! -= 01GEN40 =- -*- 90815 27-NOV 13:54 General Information RE: My cursor!? Those darned dots! (Re: Msg 90761) From: 01GEN40 To: RICKULAND Hi Rick, Let me go to another window and list my file and check... I sure like this OS-9 and my CoCo. Using the command "display" codes are sent to the following palette registers, I think. In this order: 4,5,6,8,b,0,9, 1 and a. I do not use this command much at all, so I am figuring a command such as "display 1b 31 4 1" means to make palette register #4 the value of 1, right? A friend worked on this and gave it to me as well. He figured I would like it, and I do. It keeps the various parts of OSTerm in darker colors. I hope this will be of some help. Hey! I just noticed, in your tagline, that you live in Milwaukee. I used to live there back when I was 5 or 6 years old. I am almost 43 now. Could not tell you what part, too far back for me to remember. If only I had had a CoCo back then! Anyway, gotta go. See ya. LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! -= 01GEN40 =- -*- 90816 27-NOV 13:56 General Information RE: My cursor!? Those darned dots! (Re: Msg 90797) From: 01GEN40 To: MIKE_GUZZI (NR) OK, I will. Thanks for the tip, Mike. See ya. LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! -= 01GEN40 =- -*- 90817 27-NOV 14:20 General Information RE: My cursor!? Those darned dots! (Re: Msg 90816) From: 01GEN40 To: ALL Ok, now that we all know the difference between the 63b09 and 63c09, has anyone got a clue as to where to find a 63c09 and what other modi- fications need be done. Obviously, a crystal change is in order. I do have a 32Mhz crystal. Will it work? Is there going to be any kind of tweeking to be done to say, the monitor? What about the MPI? At the time that I swapped my 6809 for the 6309, I knew, from all that I had read, that it was an even swap. I had no problem with that. I mounted a socket and dropped in the 6309, and away I flew. Well, I think that might be enough questions for now. See ya. LONG LIVE OS-9! ** In whatever form it is in! -= 01GEN40 =- -*- End of Thread. -*- 90799 26-NOV 09:58 General Information RE: MVCanvas (Re: Msg 90741) From: MIKE_GUZZI To: DONALDS Far as I know, MVcanvas only has version 2.0 I never knew of any update from then. -*- 90802 26-NOV 14:02 Programmers Den RE: _gs_rdy() Question (Re: Msg 90753) From: DBREEDING To: PAGAN > You need to zero out the path options. Under 3.2 you will use _gs_opt() > twice (one to change and one to save), zero out everything but the baud > rate and use _ss_opt to set the new options. Thanks, Stephen, I got feedback from Bob Van Der Poel and Pete Lyall over on CIS, saying the same.. well, actually, all I did was zero out EKO.. Learned something there.. didn't realize that the EKO would cause the system to echo back to the modem, in this case.. I thought it would send it to the screen, or whatever was path 1. What I was trying to do was get an external autodialer up and running.. Got it to get the connect, but now find out that there are already autodialers available, but apparently have been put in archives or something.. There are some for OS9 but I couldn't find any for OSK. > Since switching to UCC for > all dvelopment most of my old 3.2 code was put onto floppies so I dn't > have anything I can conveniently send you. Well, I think I'm on the right track now, if I continue, may just wait and see what's available. No use re-inventing the wheel How are you liking UCC? I may try another compiler, no real problems with 3.2, but thought I might give either GNU a try or get UCC. Haven't done much programming yet. -- David Breeding -- CompuServe : 72330,2051 Delphi : DBREEDING *** Sent via CoCo-InfoXpress V1.01 *** ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ -*- 90810 27-NOV 00:25 Programmers Den RE: _gs_rdy() Question (Re: Msg 90802) From: PAGAN To: DBREEDING >Thanks, Stephen, I got feedback from Bob Van Der Poel and Pete Lyall over on >CIS, saying the same.. well, actually, all I did was zero out EKO.. Learned >something there.. didn't reaaaze that the EKO would cause the system to echo >back to the modem, in this casren, or whatever was path 1. I'm not sure exactly what has to be zeroed in the scf path descriptor and waht makes no difference - I just set everything to zero. I'm open to being educated. >How are you liking UCC? I may try another compiler, no real problems with >3.2, but thought I might give either GNU a try or get UCC. Haven't done >much programming yet. I think it great. A bit slower to compile than 3.2. If I turn off optimization (-x=aoio) it take about 10% to 20% longer than 3.2 to compile the same program after porting for UCC mode. With the optimization set to default it take 1 1/2 to 2 times as long. Small price to pay for the greater flexiblity and the finished code runs noticeably faster. Once you get used to the differences, porting applications over to OS9000 is much easier too. So far, I've found that the I$Sleep and I$Create calls are different and the scf path structures are different. Oh yea, the global pointer void *_glob_data isn't documented :-) From now on, just about everything I post will be compiled with UCC. I'm porting most of my G-Windows stuff for recompilation to OS9000. Stephen -*- 90811 27-NOV 09:04 Programmers Den RE: _gs_rdy() Question (Re: Msg 90802) From: JEJONES To: DBREEDING (NR) > How are you liking UCC? I may try another compiler, no real problems > with 3.2, but thought I might give either GNU a try or get UCC. Haven't > done much programming yet. Well...as time goes on, more and more code is going to be written assuming an ANSI/ISO C compiler. Either GCC or Ultra C will help in that regard. They both generate better code than the 3.2 compiler, though of course, doing so does take CPU time and memory. I don't know what the people distributing GCC are doing for libraries. Initially, I think the OS-9/68000 version was set up to use the 3.2 compiler's libraries, though that wouldn't suffice for ANSI conformance, since ANSI adds a lot of library functions and adds bells and whistles to the commonly-found functions. If you intend to develop a commercial product and are thinking of using GCC, IMHO you had better read the GPL VERY carefully. Opinions herein are solely those of their respective authors. Clipper Chip: Big Brother Inside -*- 90824 27-NOV 20:36 Programmers Den RE: _gs_rdy() Question (Re: Msg 90811) From: NIMITZ To: JEJONES RE the GPL - from what I can see, the GNU folks have learned a little, and the developer now has little to worry about using GCC to develope commecial software. The last GCC library contained mods to make it much more ANSI compatible, and the library is growing more powerful over time. Of course, the GCLIB code is available for those needing functions not included with the compiler yet. David -*- 90827 27-NOV 22:13 Programmers Den RE: _gs_rdy() Question (Re: Msg 90824) From: EDELMAR To: NIMITZ (NR) David, > RE the GPL - from what I can see, the GNU folks have learned a little, > and the developer now has little to worry about using GCC to develope > commecial software. ... Suggest you enlist the services of a good legal beagle experienced in copyright law as it applies to software. The last word I've received is that you still cannot charge for programs using their libraries and you must make the source code available to anyone requesting it. Also, you are placing at risk customers that purchase software using the GNU libraries. Of course, you can get a license (for cash money) from the GNU people negating these risks and requirements. GCC has not been ported to OS9000/386. UCC has and it isn't a major task porting stuff written in UCC from OS-9 to OS9000. Further, when the PowerPCs become available, MW will have OS9000 and Ultra C ready to go. So far as I know, the only C-Compiler will be UCC - at least for a while. All of the above aside. One of the complaints members of this community have made is that MW isn't providing adequate support. Don't you think these complaints would have more merit if members of this community supported MW? Maybe MW would support the personal market better if the personal market supported them - just a thought. Ed -*- 90833 28-NOV 05:42 Programmers Den RE: _gs_rdy() Question (Re: Msg 90802) From: EDELMAR To: DBREEDING (NR) David, > What I was trying to do was get an external autodialer up and running.. Got > it to get the connect, but now find out that there are already autodialers > available, but apparently have been put in archives or something.. There > are some for OS9 but I couldn't find any for OSK. Don't know of a stand alone dialer but there are several comm packages that include dialers. Check out 'aterm' - dialer in there works well but is written in assembler. Also, check the new UUCPb port. It includes code for dialing and auto-logon. Works quite well. > How are you liking UCC? I may try another compiler, no real problems with > 3.2, but thought I might give either GNU a try or get UCC. Haven't done > much programming yet. PAGAN, in message #90810, covered the advantages of UCC pretty well. I had looked at using the GNU compiler several years ago from a legal viewpoint. According to the legal beagles, you may not sell software compiled by GNU if you use the GNU libraries. And you are required to either provide, or make available at no charge, the source code. (You are permitted a nominal charge to cover copying and shipping costs.) I'm not aware of a port of the GNU C Compiler to OS9000 - something I consider essential today. If you are considering the PowerPC as a platform in the future, then UCC is the way to go. IMO, I don't believe MW will port 3.2 and whether someone will do a GNU port is unknown. One other thing and for what it's worth to you, MW is working on making UCC Posix compatible. To elaborate on PAGAN's comments re speed. The ports I did of G-WINDOWS for the SYSTEM's IV and V were done using 3.2. Replacing certain functions with assembler resulted in speed increases between 2 and 3 times. Under OS9000, I've had similar speed improvements re UCC vs 3.2. The driver was compiled under UCC giving no weight to size and maximum weight to speed. I don't know if I could improve performance using assembler - the assembler listings (under UCC) looked pretty good. On the other hand, I'm not very experienced with Intel assembler code. Support may be another factor. MW has done a pretty good job of supporting Ultra-C. If you don't have a maintenance contract, they won't be cooperative after 90 days for phone support but they have been responding to e-mail. I'm not aware of any support (except from other users) for the GNU C Compiler. Ed -*- End of Thread. -*- 90806 26-NOV 14:48 OSK Applications MM/1 monitor compatibility From: MMCCLELLAND To: ALL Can somebody tell me if the MM/1 works properly with monitors that can only sync down to a horizontal frequency of 31.5 KHz? I will be buying a monitor in the near future, and I need one which will be MM/1 compatible. I have heard that the MM/1 is switchable between 15.75 and 31.5 KHz, but that the current drivers cannot support the latter frequency. -=Mark=- -*- 90808 26-NOV 15:31 OSK Applications RE: MM/1 monitor compatibility (Re: Msg 90806) From: BOISY To: MMCCLELLAND (NR) Hi there, The MM/1 needs a monitor that can sync at 15.75 KHz. Any monitor that won't sync that low will not work. If you're looking for a good monitor that works on the MM/1, CoCo 3 and a PC compatible, you might want to check out the SONY CDP-1302. Mine is 14", .25 dot pitch, 800x600 res., and works absolutely great with my MM/1. In fact, I can bring in the picture and see the entire overscan screen. David Graham (NIMITZ) can give you information on the SONY monitors that he is selling. I highly recommend it. You will not find a sharper picture on an MM/1 or CoCo 3, plus it's switchable between analog and digital RGB. True, the VSC in the MM/1 can do 31.5 KHz, but the trade off is that the horizontal resolution is halved. And K-Windows does not support the 31.5 KHz mode, so you're stuck with having to buy a monitor that syncs down to 15.75 KHz Good luck. -*- End of Thread. -*- 90818 27-NOV 17:58 General Information CoCo3 System For Sale From: RICKMAC To: ALL 512K CoCo III System for Sale --------------------------------------------- > HARDWARE < 512K CoCo III w/6309 PowerBoost installed, spare 6809s. (Practical Peripherals 512K Board) 64K CoCo II "F" Board Design Magnavox 8CM515 RGB/comp. Monitor FD-500 Disk Drive Case & Controller w/two TEAC FD-55BR drives installed (720K DS) CoCo III upgraded MultiPak Commplus 2400 BPS Modem RS-232 Pak w/socketted 6551A chip. ORCH-90 Stereo Music Pak CCR-81 Cassette Recorder Blue Streak Serial to Parallel Printer Interface 2 ea. Deluxe Joysticks (two button) 2 ea Regular Joysticks (one button) Two button mouse. One button mouse > SOFTWARE < OS-9 Level Two MultiVue Deskmate 3 Home Publisher Dynacalc for OS-9 C Compiler For OS-9 Basic09 Disk Editor Assembler Phantomgraph Bio-Sphere Rogue Rescue on Fractulus Koronis Rift Microscopic Mission Sub Battle Robot Odyssey I Carmen SanDiego Kings Quest III CoCo Max III Crystal City Telewriter-64 Telepatch Gwana-Bwana Micro-Ilustrator InterBank Incident PitStop II Shamus Bugs Galagon Buzzard Bait Cubix The King Zeus Bedlam Raaka-Tu The Third Rainbow Book of Adventures > ROM PAKS < Rampage Predator Rad Warrior Robocop Malcolm Mortar Mind-Roll Super Pitfall Football II Castle of Tharoggad Silpheed StarBlaze Project Nebula Microbes Poltergiest > BOOKS, MANUALS, ETC. < Technical Reference Manual for CoCo II Technical Reference Manual for CoCo III The Complete Rainbow Guide to OS-9 Assembly Language Graphics - Don Inman & Kurt Inman 6809 Assembly Language Programing - Lance Leventhal Disk BASIC Unravelled Extended Color BASIC Unravelled Super Color BASIC Unravelled 100+ Public Domain Programs for RSDOS & OS-9 NOTES: All equipment and software is in COMPLETE working condition and the system was working reliably last time used. Everything except a few items has the original packaging. Am asking $350 for this "bundled" sale. Includes the shipping. Everything sold "as-is". No warranties implied or intended. Rick McNabb Contact me at the following addresses: DELPHI - RICKMAC Compuserve - 76675,3612 Internet - RICKMAC@DELPHI.COM -*- 90821 27-NOV 20:08 General Information OS-9 Late Night:Reminder From: THETAURUS To: ALL OS-9 Late Night Monday November 28, 1994 at 10:00 PM(EST) Topic:Open Forum As usual, come one,come all! There is quite a bit going on in our little 'Cult Society' as of late. Boisy Pitre has a new terminal program for the MM/1, CD-I is really going over well, and I'm gonna have a TON of Basic09 questions, so please be there! :-) By the way, I should hopefully have the schedual for BOTH December and January shortly after this Monday's conference, so do keep your eyes open for that. See Ya! >Chris< -*- 90822 27-NOV 20:17 System Modules (6809) boots From: RICKULAND To: ALL Well, I haven't had this much fun in years. Anybody else want to play? The givens- a 1 meg 6809 and disto drive. Needed a new boot badly. trot out all the old favorites..... Results- after remembering the attr thing, a deblob (just repositioned) to get the floppies writing, looks ok, except std* won't merge to /w, and I cannot install term_win. Term_vdg works fine, extra windows look ok, MVue even starts (without fonts). Ezgen term_win in - boot failed way back in the OS9 BOOT stage. Tried 3 windints, 2 scf, and serveral term,w,etc descripts So I'm quite stuck. Anybody? -ricku Rick Ulland CoNect rickuland@delphi.com 449 South 90th St. "Operating System Nine"- 268m Milwaukee WI 53214 -*- 90829 27-NOV 23:24 General Information Zip/Unzip 5.0 C source From: BOISY To: ALL I have the source to the latest version of zip/unzip (5.0). If anyone would like to port it to OSK, please let me know and I'll send you the source. I would do it, but am involved in too many things as it is. It sure would be nice to have this latest version ported over. -*- 90830 28-NOV 02:13 General Information CoCo 3 Emulator From: MRUPGRADE To: ALL There has been qpuite a flurry of messages about theh release of Jeff's CC3 Emulator. Most of it (but only most) true. But little has upght up in a firpestoem of others ideas. Some pure speculation! It is NOT PD, and SHOULD NOT BE in downloads anywhere! Jr Jeff has written a heck of a program,, give him a day to think things through and there will be a fair chance for everyone. Terry Simons UPGRADE Editor -*- 90837 28-NOV 13:27 General Information OS9 running on an HP200 From: CSLEWIS To: ALL P95 (these are Hewlett Packard palmtops) -*- 90838 28-NOV 19:53 General Information IMPORTANT! FROM: JEFF From: MRUPGRADE To: ALL 28-NOV-1994 02:50:07.30 From: IN%"jeffv@PHYSICS.UBC.CA" "Jeff Vavasour" Subj: CoCo 3 Emulator, IMPORTANT Well, with others putting out notices about the CoCo 3 emulator, there are a few things I feel I should post to clear up: 1. The CoCo 3 emulator is available only by registration. 2. Registration info is found in the *new* ver 1.40 release of the CoCo 2 emulator, which should appear on SimTel FTP mirror sites shortly. The file is coco2-14.zip (*not* coco2-13.zip). One SimTel site is oak.oakland.edu, the directory is pub/msdos/emulator. 3. Those who contributed to Rick Cooper's CoCo Emulator Bounty Escrow Fund will receive credit up to the full value of the registration fee, $25. (I'm taking the monthly report in CFDM's Forum as authoritative on who contributed, and how much. Please contact Rick if there is any error in your entry in this report.) 4. Those who contributed in excess of the $25 to the Fund will receive a typeset printed version of the manual with their copy. (This is a bounus available *only* to those who contributed to the Fund in excess of $25.) 5. Those who did not contribute to the Fund may obtain a copy of the emulator for $25 by following the instructions in Section 8 of the CoCo 2 emulator's documentation. (The file is COCO.DOC in coco2-14.zip.) 6. Please take time to follow verify that you have the correct system requirements by reading the COCO.DOC file and following the test procedure for your VGA card and disk drives. Please feel free to repost this message anywhere you can. There appear to be rumours and speculation circulating already, which I'd like to clear up. Again, the CoCo 3 emulator is not in itself shareware. The CoCo 2 emulator is shareware in that, if you register it, you get the CoCo 3 emulator. The CoCo 3 emulator is only available to those who register, and is not freely distributable. - Jeff -*- FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit>