#: 17371 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 15-Jan-93 21:21:12 Sb: #17366-#Ved/68K upgrade Fm: Ken Gideon 72270,664 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) yep... I still live there. I look foward to the ann., off the recored, what is your upgrade policy? also, a suggestion(or two); make the tab key be a tab key. and if you just hit esc. have a little menu bar with the submenus pop-up... and make it more colorful... graphical or something... the MM/1 is sapose to be a bit of a graphics machine... K.E.G. There is 1 Reply. #: 17393 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 17-Jan-93 13:57:05 Sb: #17371-Ved/68K upgrade Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: Ken Gideon 72270,664 (X) Ken, thanks for the interest in Ved and suggestions... 1. Upgrade policy: Normally we charge a nominal 5 to 10 dollars for an upgrade. Really just to cover the cost of media, etc. However, with a major change like from Ved 1.x to 2.0 we do have to charge a bit more. Full details are in the upgrade announcment in the mail to you. 2. Making tab==tab: Do remember that ALL the keybindings in Ved are user defineable. This is made much easier with 2.0 since we now include MVEF in the package. MVEF makes it easy to create a customized environment file with the key laid out the way you think the should be. 3. Menus: Ved is _not_ a mm/1 editor. It is designed to work on any OSK platform, and as such does have to assume a somewhat limited environment. The only thing Ved _really_ needs is cursor positioning. Adding color and stuff is really quite easy if you want to fool around with the termcap file..nothing from stopping you from defining 'so' (standout) as red letters on yellow.... 4. MM/1: We have included some support for Kwindows. Ved will read a mouse to get cursor positioning, etc. and does a few things with the Kwindows screen drivers. 5. A future version of Ved _may_ incorporate a front-end option. As envisioned a front-end would be a user (or 3rd party) written program which would filter commands (keys) before they get to Ved. This program could then do it's own menus, etc. Or it could be a executive in an interactive c-programming environment. The exec. could transfer control between programs, and even pass error line numbers to Ved so that the correct line pops up after a unsuccessful compile. This is still in the planning stage... #: 17377 S7/Telecommunications 16-Jan-93 09:36:21 Sb: #terminal help Fm: keith bauer 71102,317 To: all I need to now if I am on the right track here. I got an old XT from work for free and I want to set it up to use as a mail reader running SLMR. This is what I think I need to do, please let me know if I am going in the right direction or not. I will run a null modem cable from the serial port on the xt to /T1 on my MM/1. I will run a telcom program on the xt and one on the MM/1. This should allow me to transfer program via xmodem. I would also like to login to the MM/1. Do do this do I run tsmon for T1 or do I setup a shell on T1. Any help would be appreated. Thanks Keith Bauer There is 1 Reply. #: 17378 S7/Telecommunications 16-Jan-93 14:06:08 Sb: #17377-#terminal help Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 To: keith bauer 71102,317 (X) Keith, You're on the right track. You could do either, I run a shell on my CoCo for access to the CoCo from my MM/1, and I run mtsmon for dialup access to the MM/1 from work. To run a shell, try: (shell <>>>/t1 &) You can add any of the shell parameters, like -p=MM1, or -l to require logout to end the shell, that way you can't accidentally shut that shell down with ESC. To run mtsmon, try: (mtsmon -s /t1 &) In any case, use xmode to set proper baud rate, etc. before starting up the shell, or mtsmon. Using either method, you can do file transfers from a terminal program on the XT via Kermit or Zmodem without running a terminal program on the MM/1 side. I'm not aware of an OSK xmodem server, but there might be one floating around. How to do this depends on the terminal program you use on the XT, I do Zmodem transfers (Kermit too) dialed into my MM/1 from work where I use Crosstalk on a Dell 386. -Bill- There are 2 Replies. #: 17388 S7/Telecommunications 17-Jan-93 06:47:56 Sb: #17378-terminal help Fm: keith bauer 71102,317 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) Thanks I guess I am ready to give it a try. My serial card should be in on Tuesday. Thanks for the help. Keith #: 17392 S7/Telecommunications 17-Jan-93 12:50:27 Sb: #17378-#terminal help Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) Re: xmodem server for OSK. I have a file in my archives called xm19.ar. I believe I got it here, but not sure if that is the filename (it probably is). The archive contains source for an interactive xmodem server. I have never tried it...but it should work. There is 1 Reply. #: 17401 S7/Telecommunications 18-Jan-93 07:45:38 Sb: #17392-#terminal help Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Bob, I have what I think is the OS9 version of that xmodem server, its called xm, and its version 1.8. I'll look around for the OSK version. Thanks. -Bill- There is 1 Reply. #: 17405 S7/Telecommunications 19-Jan-93 05:33:19 Sb: #17401-terminal help Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) Bill, It's in LIB 7 I think. I grabbed it last night and it seemed to compile ok with a few minor tweaks. You may want to look for the reference to 'pwd' and change it to 'pd'. It's somewhere around the 'log directory' option. *- Steve -* #: 17379 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 16-Jan-93 14:42:38 Sb: BGFX Fm: TED JAEGER 72467,372 To: kevin darling 76703,4227 (X) Kevin, I am a new purchaser of an MM1. I am told you have BGFX for this machine for sale. I would like to purchase a copy but do not know where to send the money! Could you contact me here or: Ted Jaeger 1809 Haddley Lee Fulton, MO 65251 1-314-642-4308 Thanks, Ted 72467,372 #: 17380 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 16-Jan-93 14:47:20 Sb: signal handler Fm: TED JAEGER 72467,372 To: kevin darling 76703,4227 (X) I am trying to write a signal handler using BASIC and syscalls for my mouse. Have a signal for the mouse to return and the process asleep but cannot manage F$Icpt and writing the signal to a known memory location. I assume that the mouse signal is received in one register of the 68070 but which one? And then, what 68000 assembly language instruction would write that signal value to memory? I believe if I knew these two things I could accomplish the signal handler so I am wondering if you know? Really, I am just trying to clone Dale Puckett's trick that was in Rainbow several years back. Thanks, TedJaeger 72467,372 #: 17381 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 16-Jan-93 14:51:23 Sb: KWindows buttons Fm: TED JAEGER 72467,372 To: all Using KWindows, I have created buttons with shell "display 1e 28 ....". I find that if the button encroaches on the bottom line of a Type 0 screen on my MM1 the normal gray face of the button takes on the background color of the screen and its 3d movement is lost. This a bug or am I doing something wrong? Also, I find that these buttons automatically depress when clicked on with the mouse, provided that the process is not asleep and the mouse has no signal to return. Under the latter conditions, no button movement. Again, am I doing something wrong here? Thanks, TedJaeger 72467,372 #: 17382 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 16-Jan-93 15:00:53 Sb: #QUANTUM Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: All HELP....does anyone have a phone number for Quantum. My HD just stopped working. It will not format since it can't seem to read LSN1 or 2. This drive has been getting flakier and flakier as time goes on. There is 1 Reply. #: 17407 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 19-Jan-93 09:29:07 Sb: #17382-QUANTUM Fm: Jay Truesdale [JBM] 71174,3442 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Quantum: (408) 432-1100 in CA. Tech Support (800) 367-1984. #: 17386 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 17-Jan-93 00:28:32 Sb: OS9 Programmer Avail. Fm: steve mann 71310,1742 To: All OS-9/68K Programmer Available. I have three years experience with OS9 in firmware development and firmware group supervision. I have ported OS-9 to our 68000-based proprietary processor board, written device drivers and product related control modules. Overall I have 13 years experience with various microprocessors, but I like the 68K and OS-9 the best. I am interested in a permanent position only; no contract jobs. If you are a hiring manager or know of one who would be interested in my full resume, I can be reached by Internet:smann$peck.com, or by CIS, 71310,1742. Or, by US Snail, Steve Mann, 124-h Blossom Hill Road, Suite 324, San Jose, CA 95123. #: 17394 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 17-Jan-93 14:17:13 Sb: archives Fm: John Raymond 74250,3214 To: os 9 users Need help with .ar files. They download ok, but how to unarchive? #: 17397 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 17-Jan-93 16:09:45 Sb: #CoCoFest Fm: Howard Luckey 74746,3207 To: ALL The Glenside Color Computer Club of Ill. announces the Seconde Annual "Last" CoCoFEST, on May 1st and 2nd, 1993 at the Holiday Inn Elgin (A holidome recreation center.). The address is 345 W. River Road, Elgin IL. The overnight room rates are $52.00 plus 10% tax. Call 1-708-695-5000 or 1-800-holiday for reservations, and be sure to ask for the "Glenside" or "CoCoFest!" rate. Admission is $10.00 at the door for a two day pass (no one day passes). Advanced ticket prices are $8.00 and to buy them send the $8.00 with a SASE or the $8.00 pluse $.50 for shipping and handling to George Schneeweiss, Tresurer, Glenside Color Computer Club, RR#2 Box 67, Forrest, Il 61741-9629. For further information, general or exhibitor contact: Tony Podraza, President GCCCI at 708-428-3576 (voice) or 708-428-0436 (BBS); or Carl Boll, Vice President, GCCCI, at 312-735-6087 (voice) or 312-735-3355 (BBS). There are 2 Replies. #: 17399 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 17-Jan-93 21:23:25 Sb: #17397-#CoCoFest Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752 To: Howard Luckey 74746,3207 Sounds interesting... Pretty quick on the heels of the Mid America CoCo-Fest in Des Moines on March 27th and 28th. It would be nice if we'd get a little coordination on these fests. Lee There is 1 Reply. #: 17404 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 18-Jan-93 21:53:12 Sb: #17399-#CoCoFest Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X) Dear Lee: I agree, hopefully I can make it to both, definately Glensides'. --Br. Jeremy, CSJW There is 1 Reply. #: 17422 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 23-Jan-93 09:53:46 Sb: #17404-CoCoFest Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752 To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 Dear Bro.: Fortunately for you, anyway, you're some what in the region for both fests. I'd be looking at two 700+ mile trips roughly a month apart. It'll be tough for me to make it to both. Lee p.s. Having a CoCoFest in Des Moines, isn't that the OS-9ers answer to Mecca? Don't the OS-9 faithful have to go on a pilgrimage at least once to the holy city? Lee #: 17403 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 18-Jan-93 21:50:38 Sb: #17397-CoCoFest Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 To: Howard Luckey 74746,3207 I'll be there. --Br. Jeremy, CSJW #: 17412 S1/General Interest 20-Jan-93 22:00:43 Sb: #my account Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: all Those of you who also are members of Delphi will find this announcement as no surprise. But to the rest of you..... As some of you know already, I have been 'sharing' a Delphi Account with Alan Sheltra, Editor and Publisher of the OS9 Underground Magazine. Well, Alan and I made a decision a few nights ago (based on all the GOOD THINGS that I had to say about everyone here on CIS), and that is that we would dump our Delphi Account, and concentrate on using CIS instead. So, if you ever need to reach me and my company - Sirius Software & Hardware OR if you ever need to reach Alan Sheltra regarding the OS9 Underground Magazine or Animajik Productions..... then, by all means, leave private email to.... 70673,1754 All messages will be replied to.... Take care, guys.....it's good to be back full-time on this excellent service!! jim Sutemeier There are 2 Replies. #: 17413 S1/General Interest 20-Jan-93 22:59:35 Sb: #17412-#my account Fm: Wayne Day 76703,376 To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 (X) Welcome back, Jim! Wayne There is 1 Reply. #: 17418 S1/General Interest 22-Jan-93 20:15:05 Sb: #17413-my account Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: Wayne Day 76703,376 Thank you very much, Wayne, it's good to be back here on a 'full time' basis. Glad to see you're still SysOp here (gads, how many years has it been for you?? I remember back in 84 you were here!!) Take care. jim #: 17416 S1/General Interest 21-Jan-93 18:18:39 Sb: #17412-#my account Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 (X) Well done, Jim! Glad of the change. Regards, Ches. There is 1 Reply. #: 17419 S1/General Interest 22-Jan-93 20:15:40 Sb: #17416-my account Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Thanks for the well wishes....see you online here!! jim #: 17414 S15/Hot Topics 21-Jan-93 05:04:17 Sb: New Product Announcement Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41 To: All Announcing a new product for all MM/1 owners. The Dirt Cheap Computer Stuff Company, DccS, (me), is pleased to offer a Floptical Disk Drive. These drives use 3.5 inch optical disks to read and write up to 21 Megabytes of data on one disk, while still being able to read and write standard 1.44 Meg and 720K floppies. The drives are mounted as a normal 3.5 inch floppy disk drive and connected using your SCSI cable. A special device driver and descriptor (/f0) allows you to access all disk types (21 Meg, 1.44 Meg, 720k) through the same descriptor. The drive automatically detects the different types. All disk types are formatted using special descriptors that can be loaded when needed or included in your boot file. Read/write speeds for the 21 Meg disks are much faster than standard floppy disks. Measured transfer rates for reading are 124 Kbytes a second and 74 Kbytes a second for writing. This compares to 15 Kbytes reading and 1.8 Kbytes writing for a 1.44 meg floppy on the MM/1. Seek times for the 21 Meg drives were measured at 137ms average (at the application). The price for a complete system including the drive, software drivers and descriptors and documentation for installing and using the drive is $350.00. This drive and the software drivers are offered exclusively by DccS. For more information, or to place and order contact DccS either by e-mail to me, or calling or writing the following: Mark Griffith DccS 1368 Old Hwy 50 East Union, MO 63084 (314) 583-1168 (leave a message, I'll call back) /*----------- /\/\ark -----------*/ #: 17420 S5/OS9 Users Group 23-Jan-93 03:09:21 Sb: Good to See It! Fm: Todd Cooper 76526,2751 To: Wayne Wayne - This is great! Last year I was told you guys didn't have any real (i.e., used often enough so it's not a pain) way of exchanging EMail. Tell whoever is responsible that it is appreciated! Toddly #: 17421 S11/OS9/6809 (Non-CoCo) 23-Jan-93 09:48:40 Sb: send 6309 disks Fm: maarten amj van wamelen 100115,2205 To: kevin darling to kevin darling please send reply about the disks i send you answer please #: 17423 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 23-Jan-93 09:56:48 Sb: ar thanks Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752 To: John Raymond 74250,3214 Glad you're on track. Of course, you can always use the -? parameter (AR -?) to dump out some reminder notes. Their pretty good as a quick reminder. Lee Press !>