#: 12921 S15/Hot Topics 06-Nov-91 21:07:17 Sb: #12842-#MM/1 delivery Fm: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X) I was billed Dec. 31, 1990 and got my machine in Sept 91! Be patient, you will get it. I talked to Paul (left him a message and he called me) and he said that they are almost caught up in shipping the main boards. --Colin There is 1 Reply. #: 12924 S15/Hot Topics 06-Nov-91 22:08:32 Sb: #12921-MM/1 delivery Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 To: Colin J. Smith 73777,1360 Hi Colin... I've talked to Paul twice since that message. It has been shipped and a trace is being done to locate it's whereabouts. I expect to hear from UPS any day now... Anyway, how do you like your's? Do you have an IO board? How are graphics with the CM-8 (assuming you are using one)? #: 12922 S1/General Interest 06-Nov-91 21:11:22 Sb: #12916-#Hard drives Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Steve, good news -- 800 access works from Canada. Well, at least from my part (area code 604). Seems to be a nice line too (much less garbage than my normal long distance through to the CIS node in Vancouver, but that might just be for my one test call ). Funny, how the CS folks at CIS don't seem to know what's going on... There is 1 Reply. #: 12927 S1/General Interest 07-Nov-91 08:53:26 Sb: #12922-Hard drives Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Awright! Thanks for the confimation ... and do pass on this info to Bruce if you run into him. We'd like to see more of _both_ you guys! Steve #: 12923 S7/Telecommunications 06-Nov-91 21:56:53 Sb: #12917-#Quick-B Problems Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Really. I've had this hack installed for a long time. Like I said, if I throw out SACIA everything works fine and dandy. But I will read the IRQHAK.TXT file and maybe try it. I found a patch to the Disto clock module called DISTO.IPC. It says not a lot about what it does but I installed it anyway. That along with the setting of the xtp buffer thingy allowed me to download a 40K file last night with no errors. But that was last night; today I tried downloading a file three times. Using Quick-B each time; the first two times it wouldn't start downloading; the clear key switched windows but the system was otherwise locked. The third time, after running xmode just to check parameters, it downloaded the first 8 packets and then froze up. Makes me think I might have a genuine hardware bug. Paul There are 2 Replies. #: 12926 S7/Telecommunications 07-Nov-91 00:41:49 Sb: #12923-#Quick-B Problems Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 (X) My SACIA docs specifically mention that there are two modules, one with the .mpi extension and one that has some other extension--as I had said earlier. Are you sure you installed the right one? The .mpi is for those who do NOT have the hardware IRQ hack, the "other" one is for those who DO have the hack. No details were made as to what the consequences of using the wrong one would be, but that could be the/a source of your problems. (If you can't do anything else, redownload SACIA without using the SACIA you have now, then reinstall from the redownload following the docs carefully. If that still doesn't work you can safely rule out my wrong module hypothesis.) There is 1 Reply. #: 12932 S7/Telecommunications 07-Nov-91 21:58:21 Sb: #12926-Quick-B Problems Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 (X) I haven't tried the other module (the .mpi one) because I had a hardware IRQ hack installed (so I thought). It is worth a try. I have a bigger problem now though. I am sending this message with my trusty Epson QX-16 since my trusty COCO has decided not to recognize any of my disk drives. I took things apart and now things are muffed. Paul #: 12928 S7/Telecommunications 07-Nov-91 08:56:12 Sb: #12923-#Quick-B Problems Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 (X) Paul, Remember, the xtp must be set each time the system is booted (unless you've saved a new copy of the descriptor and installed it in your boot. Also ... Erich has a couple of suggestions in his note. It's gotta be a combination of IRQ and SACIA problems. Keep after it systematically and you'll have it nailed! Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 12933 S7/Telecommunications 07-Nov-91 22:10:37 Sb: #12928-#Quick-B Problems Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 Steve, I am in serious trouble. After reading about the hack that was recommended, I opened up both the computer and the MPI to see what hack I had installed so long ago. I had all the pin 8's on the multipack connected together. I had the pin 8 input from the MPI connected to the CPU IRQ pin through a diode. With this hack, I was able to run three serial ports simultaneously as long as I didn't run SACIA. That's why I had a hard time swallowing Eric's statement that the diode hack didn't work. Anyway, I tried connecting the IRQ pin of the 6551 in the RS-232 pak right to the 6809 IRQ pin. It gave me problems. The system would freeze during bootup. So I was frustrated and let it sit for the night. Today I put everything back the way it was. With the drive controller in slot 4 and the MPI switch set to 4 I get a green screen with no cursor or version logo on it. If I throw the MPI switch, I will get Extended Color Basic 2.0. No disk basic. Thought the controller might have bought it, so I plugged in my old controller; same thing. Tried moving the controller to a different slot; no luck. So it ain't recognizing the disk ROM. Help. BTW, I had cobblered that xtp setting onto the boot disk. Paul There are 2 Replies. #: 12935 S7/Telecommunications 07-Nov-91 23:02:23 Sb: #12933-#Quick-B Problems Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 (X) I reviewed the text file on the nondiode IRQ hack. It states that you put the 6809-end of the wire on the side of the IRQ line resistor that is opposite the 6809 (i.e., not directly to it). That could have been a problem source. Also, it is my understanding of the text that you keep the 6551 and 6809 IRQ's tied together only when you are using the serial port because of the recommendation you use a plug/jack pair (enabling you to detach the hack) instead of a direct connection; I may be wrong on this point though. There is 1 Reply. #: 12940 S7/Telecommunications 08-Nov-91 20:13:09 Sb: #12935-Quick-B Problems Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 To: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 I got the hack you are talking about to work. The reason I thought it wasn't working was because while working on the MPI, one of the little wires on the upgrade board fell off and the system wouldn't recognize the disk controller. With the hack, I was able to download a 47K file with one error instead of four errors. It might have been a legitimate error. However, using ACIAPAK and downloading a 120K file last night gave me no errors. I found that Aug. 1990 Rainbow article you were talking about. Very interesting. I would need source code to the original clock module and either the Disto or someone else's RTC module to be able to write the changes. I'm not knowledgeable enough to write a clock module on my own. Thanks for all your help. Paul #: 12939 S7/Telecommunications 08-Nov-91 10:47:33 Sb: #12933-#Quick-B Problems Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 (X) Paul - Have you tried removing the multipak from the circuit, and plugging in the disk controller directly? Also, try cleaning all the connectors.. that's a notorious COCO failure point. Also - If you hung during booting with the hardware IRQ hack, the only reasonable explanation is that something attached to the IRQ line/bus generated an IRQ (like a serial port) before there was a handler in place to deal with it. Make sure that the IRQ decks are cleared. Is your situation such that your whole system is powered from one power strip, and turning it on causes the modem to generate an "OK", or something like that? Pete There is 1 Reply. #: 12941 S7/Telecommunications 08-Nov-91 20:22:30 Sb: #12939-Quick-B Problems Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 The problem with the loss of Disk Basic was that when I had the MPI apart, one of the little wires from the upgrade board fell off. I cleaned all the contacts with an eraser anyway. Very interesting about an IRQ coming down the line during boot. This just might happen. Anyway, I got your hack to work, but instead of opening up each serial port cartridge I have and soldering a little wire to the IRQ of the 6551, I soldered the wire into the multipak pin 8 (which are all wired together). This seemed like a timesaver since I have serial ports in 3 slots. I cut the trace going out of the multipak on pin 8 so that the 6809 doesn't get two messages about one interrupt. Seems to work so far. Am going to error test it on some large file downloads from a local BBS while simultaneously playing with a remote terminal. Paul #: 12925 S3/Languages 06-Nov-91 23:23:30 Sb: 6809 Book Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 To: John Wainwright, 72517,676 Dear John: Please forgive me for not thanking you sooner. The book arrived last week. I have been pouring through it, and I am actually understanding some of it. Thank you again for your kindness. With all best wishes, Br. Jeremy, CSJW #: 12929 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 07-Nov-91 17:02:52 Sb: #Module directory Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: All Does anyone happen to know the format of the data returned by the F$GModDr system call? The manual is of not too much help here--it just states that a number of bytes are copied... It appears that each entry is 32 bytes long. Bytes 0-3 are a pointer to the module and 12-13 could be the link count of the module. There is 1 Reply. #: 12934 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 07-Nov-91 23:01:31 Sb: #12929-Module directory Fm: Roy Dacus 70721,1113 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Hi Bob, I think it is in DEFS/module.a. I hope this is what your looking for: ******************************** * Module Directory Entry Definitions ModDir: equ 1<<8 module directory format revision (for D_Cigar) org 0 MD$MPtr:do.l 1 module ptr MD$Group:do.l 1 module group ptr MD$Static:do.l 1 module group memory size MD$Link:do.w 1 module link count MD$MChk:do.w 1 module header checksum MD$ESize: equ . module directory entry size ends opt l #: 12930 S1/General Interest 07-Nov-91 19:16:56 Sb: #12893-INTERNET Fm: Ed Gresick 76576,3312 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 Steve, Thanks (and to Pete Lyall). Pete spotted an error in my addressing so I sent the message again. It didn't bounce this time - yet. I understand that when a message is successfully accepted, a message is returned telling the send it went OK. I haven't received such a message. Is there any other way of knowing whether the message got through. If it did get through, Mark should be jumping all over me by now . Ed Gresick - DELMAR CO #: 12936 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 08-Nov-91 01:34:05 Sb: BBS Fm: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 To: all Does anybody out there run a BBS? If so what bbs and what is the number? #: 12937 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 08-Nov-91 01:35:39 Sb: bbs Fm: Everett Chimbidis 76370,1366 To: 71071,2003 Do you have an upgrade for you util3 ? If so will it handle 600 files? Press !>