: :::. : ____, In Memory, : :: : : |_ _; Karl Marx ,~~ : :::'istorted : `|| says: --)( : :::. :::: : || "Aufheben!" ()= : :: :igital ::. rection : [] HOOKAH! : :::' :::: : 22 February 1994 : Text File #11 Mongoloid Telecom ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Oh, boy! Have we got a rather unique treat, gentlemen. This file was sent to me in an anonymous fashion and details some of the better sides of TCC. The point of this - the 'Madmax File' is described. I think it shows something more interesting - a Night on TCC! There's chat sex, some macho-ism and some cool psueo-psychology. All in all, its a real hoot. Kinda long, though. 'Mutation Nation - volume one.' This file contains information on Michael Valentine/Justina Valentine, and is a continuing project. If you have ANY chat logs, telegrams, letters, ANYTHING, please send it to the author for inclusion in updates of this file. Telegram #18 From:LadyHawke Date/Time:06-SEP-93 8:21pm Hello Telegram #19 From:LadyHawke Date/Time:06-SEP-93 8:29pm I guess I was wrong about you. I thought you were different, but you are the same as the rest of the juveniles on here. Telegram #18 From:LadyHawke Date/Time:06-SEP-93 8:32pm sorry for being so short with you. ******************************************************************************************* --- these are J's assorted accounts from multiple BBSs Ok, here's the info for LadyHawke... Real Name: Lady Sex: f Age: 30 Aliases: Bird of Prey City/State: Canton Voice Phone: unlisted(right) Physical Description: You can ask if you think its important. but its gooood! Comp. Phone: unlisted(right) BBS: yeah sure... Favorite Movie: Lady Hawke & Troll Favorite TV Show: Covington Cross Favorite Music: New Age Instrument Played: The wind Favorite Foods: CHOCOLATE!!! Favorite Sport: Ahem!! I'll never tell. Other Hobbies/Interests: I collect things. EVERYTHING! I'm a collecting fool! I love stamps. General Info: I love to read a good book. Like anything by Stephen King or Dean Koontz. General Info: I love animals of all kinds and think that we should do all we can for the Marital status: married to a wonderful guy Computer type: An over grown over priced calculator! Terminal program: Lync 3.0 (N)on-stop (Q)uit > Summary: The Bird of Prey Name on BBS: HARROWER City: Canton State: oh School, if any: None. Age: 30 Favorite BBS & Number: Cyber Realms - 454-2006 Favorite Kind of Movie: Adventure Favorite TV Show: Covington Cross Last Three CDs Bought: #1, #2, #3.....and they were coooool!!!!! Favorite Foods: italian Favorite Sports: Indoor (G) Sexual Preference: E.O.L - Equal Opportunity Lover Why do you call BBSes?: For fun.....and (fill in the blank) Hobbies: Finding friends, and reading, practicing Magick, seeing. Other interests: Sex and making people feel REALLY good. Summary: The Lady From the Grove **************************************************************** *************************** --- i have no idea whatÕs with this account. i know, however, that is somehow linked with Michael & Co Ok, here's the info for Godsister... Real Name: Gina Sex: F Age: 22 Aliases: none City/State: Canton Oh Voice Phone: unlisted Physical Description: I'm Italian....any questions? Comp. Phone: unlisted BBS: . Favorite Movie: The Godfather Favorite TV Show: The Untouchables Favorite Music: Theme from Godfathe Instrument Played: . Favorite Foods: DUH! Favorite Sport: Tennis, hand ball...etc. Other Hobbies/Interests: I love swimming. I like going to interesting historical sites, I am really General Info: into art and romance. General Info: And guys, I have a big brother, so be CAREFUL! Marital status: Single Computer type: I don't know what this things is. Terminal program: Telmate, Procomm, Lync. Summary: An offer you can't refuse. Mad_Max is a 25 year old European straight male. He is 5'11" tall, has black eyes and brown hair, weighs 290 pounds, and lives in Maryland. Mad_Max has been a member since 07/06/93. Mad_Max was last online on 11/13/93 and has this to say about himself: ... One and Only. How tall are you in inches? ... 5'11" How much do you weigh? ... 290 lbs. Where do you live? ... Maryland What color is your hair? ... Brown What color are your eyes? ... Black What is your ethnic background? ... European Describe your facial features: ... I have a light complexion Do you have children? ... You mean pets, don't you? What is your educational background? ... 2 year degree What are your hobbies/interests? ... Electronics/Computers ... Photography ... Movies/Theater ... SEX What best describes your work? ... Engineering/Science What clothing apparel gets your attention? ... Birthday suit I am most attracted to... ... All kinds of people My personality is best described as ... There are no words to describe me! How often do you have access to a computer terminal so that you can answer your electronic mail on a regular basis? ... Always, I own my own. I use my computer mostly for: ... Programming I call here: ... Weekly Describe your appearance? ... Average looks What is the condition of your body? ... Can we change the subject, PLEASE!? What is your physical fitness philosophy? ... I walk from the couch to the refrigerator How do you feel about cigarettes? ... Light Smoker Do you take drugs? ... On occasion What is your liquor consumption? ... I am a social drinker How often do you go to the bars? ... I don't go to the bars How do you feel about pets? ... I love rodents What are your favorite types of music? ... Classical ... Music from the 50's ... Music from the 60's ... Classic Rock What are your favorite types of food? ... Italian food ... Mexican food ... Japanese food ... American food When it rains, I... ... The rain doesn't bother me, I just ignore it If an 8 year old can build it in 10 minutes, what do you do? ... Find an 8 year old to do it for me Which would you consider yourself? ... A night person forced into a day person's hours How religious are you? ... My religious beliefs are personal and private Would you date someone outside your race or religion? ... Yes What age group are you attracted to the most? ... 21-25 ... 26-30 Generally, when is your free time? ... I have odd hours I won't date someone who lives more than... ... 300 miles from me What is your dating status? ... I'm attached and happy, but free to date. I live with... ... My spouse What is most important in a relationship? ... Trust ... Communication What are your feelings on fidelity? ... I believe in open relationships How romantic are you? ... At times Cupid tugs at my heart During a conversation, how much of the time are you talking? ... I'll do my share of the talking Who should be more aggressive on a date? ... It doesn't matter who makes the first move When sleeping... ... I use it all... I wander in my sleep The perfect night would go something like this: ... Dining, theater, candles, music. ... A private hot tub, hours of fore-play and unlimited energy. ... Good wine, soft sheets, and thee. ... Staying home in front of the fireplace w/music. What are your sexual practices? ... I like both the top and bottom ... I like it 'doggie' style ... I like giving oral sex ... I like receiving oral sex With whom do you prefer to correspond and/or chat with on the BBS? ... Depends on the content Who will you reply to? ... I will answer all mail How honest were you? ... I was totally honest. --- These are some of MichaelÕs accounts ALL from The Canton Connection. not all of them are current, he has used up to three at a time before. Ok, here's the info for Mad_Max... Real Name: M or M Sex: m Age: 24 Aliases: All of them...hehehe City/State: Canton Oh Voice Phone: . Physical Description: Do you remember Jabba the Hut.....? Comp. Phone: . BBS: Cyber Realms Systems Favorite Movie: Too many to name. Favorite TV Show: Binkey the Clown. Favorite Music: Wierd Al... Instrument Played: Keyboard. Favorite Foods: Italian Favorite Sport: Indoor....Ahem... Other Hobbies/Interests: Lots of hobbies not enough time in the day to attend to them all...hehhee General Info: By the way, I'm filling this reg out for Belle, who asked so nicely. General Info: So by being nice you can get things accomplished. Marital status: Married & Dating... Computer type: Dinosaur 8088 Terminal program: Telemate Summary: The Source Ok, here's the info for MiracleMax... Real Name: Maximillian Sex: m Age: ??? Aliases: The Bard City/State: Canton, OH Voice Phone: Not now. Physical Description: What physical appearance? Comp. Phone: Ask me? BBS: Miracle Max's -Dream Team Favorite Movie: Grease Favorite TV Show: Star Trek TNG Favorite Music: All sounds. Instrument Played: Keyboard (synth) Favorite Foods: Italian Favorite Sport: LOVE Other Hobbies/Interests: Coin collecting, poetry, computers, women, women, women, wine. General Info: I'm very good at making friends with people, so feel free to talk to me. General Info: I like people. I am a people person (no, I'm not a politition). Marital status: Who knows...... Computer type: I admit, I am using a relic. 8088 XT Terminal program: Lync Summary: The keeper of Destiny. Ok, here's the info for CocaCola_Kid... Real Name: Michael Sex: M Age: 20 Aliases: Carbonation City/State: Atlanta Georgia Voice Phone: 1-800-COCACOLA Physical Description: I look like my dad. Comp. Phone: . BBS: . Favorite Movie: The Heavenly Kid Favorite TV Show: Home Improvement Favorite Music: Mine Instrument Played: Pop Can Favorite Foods: Coca Cola Salad. Favorite Sport: Karate Tounaments Other Hobbies/Interests: I really love collecting bottle caps (COKE of course), and I like talking General Info: I really get into this computer stuff, I just wish I knew what I was doing. General Info: I love BBSing!!!!! Marital status: Single Computer type: Pentium 66 Mhz 240 Gig Terminal program: Data Link Summary: I'd like to teach the world to sing... Ok, here's the info for Robin... Real Name: Robin Sex: M Age: . Aliases: None City/State: Canton, Oh Voice Phone: . Physical Description: I'm 5'11", long blond hair, well built, and muscular...(I swear) Comp. Phone: . BBS: . Favorite Movie: Prince of Thieves Favorite TV Show: none Favorite Music: Clannad Instrument Played: none Favorite Foods: the free kind. Favorite Sport: Archery competition Other Hobbies/Interests: Social work, I love collecting for charities, and volunteering my time for General Info: a good cause. General Info: . Marital status: Single but looking..... Computer type: 486 DX 33 Mhz I.B.M. Terminal program: Sherwood Comm. Package Summary: Nothings forgotten...... --- this is a chat log between Justina (at least i think itÕs her) and Snowman- SN> hesitation between am and 29. You are sure that that is your real age? LH>You see too much......but yes that is my real age. I am nothing if not observant :) Just by the words you choose, I can tell a lot about you. But...we need to chat more for it to work. You can ask me some-thing now. thanks for your "permission" oh gracious one....... No problem. I am kind to those in need. You sarchasm flows through your modem like oil on a turkey ??? anyway, what is your first question for me? who are you really? My name is Christopher George Mann. I attend Sandy Valley High School. I am 18 years old, and will graduate in one month. Does that help? Very much so. You don't know me do you? And what makes you think I don't know about you. Hmmmm. You type pretty fast, which leads me to believe that you have been doing some SERIOUS chatting. No doubt, my name has come up once or twice, and since you asked me to call you, you must not have heard completely bad things about me. How is that for logical? You seem pretty intelligent. I have been typing for quite some time. I am a legal secretary. That's interesting. In what department? Domestic affairs. Ohhhh That's the fun stuff, like what child battering, break ins, etc.? Yes, sometimes, but mostly divorces and custody battles and stuff like that. That can be almost as violent, as I am sure you must agree. Not only did my parents go through a nasty divorce, but there was also a custody battle about ten years later for my petition to move from my mom's to my dad's. No douby you must see people like our family every day. This is boring!!!!!!! Let's talk about something a little more.......interesting. Like sex perhaps........ :) I knew you weren't the sweet little innoscent gal that six other people I have asked about you said you were :) Six others said I was an innoscent little gal? What was that? What was what? Suddenly your text flipped to the top of my screen instead of continueing on. AAnyway, you are still legible, and I am still a pervert :) You're very funny. sorry I keep hitting the home key by accident. That is what is doing it. Can you hit enter about 20 times to clear my screen? ThanHk you. You're very welcome Christopher. Thank you!! Most people immediately shorten my name to Chris. Chris is not genderspecific, and though you might think that trivial, it is not funny when someone yells for "Chris!" and I turn my head, and its Christin or Crissy, that they want. I know that is why I called you Christopher. What is your name? My name is Justina hmmm an uncommon name for an uncommon gal. I like it! I'm sure you would...... That's probably true :) Even if it would have been Garlwenda, I probably would have said I liked it for not wanting to be impolite. But....I DO actually like your name. We are once again straying from the topic of choice... So you are a pervert aren't you? No NO. I'm a gentleman. hahahhahaha! You are very amusing. That's what they all say......until......... You are really a lot different in person though. Is that a question? No. You have seen me? I've seen what I need to. You were at the last Canton Connection meeting? I could have been, but you wouldn't know that would you? It depends (where you sat). This is unusual. Usually I pride myself as being one of the few people on here who are very similar online and in person. your comment has left me a little flustered. Where did you sit? I didn't say for sure that I was there, I only said I could have been there. Your comments up to this point have led me to believe that you were. You forget that I am Snowlock Holmes, and can read your print as though it were you mind. No, I wasn't there but I would like to be. Just as I suspected!! You weren't. When I said that I though you were, it was a ploy to make you come clean....yeah, thats the ticket. We are AGAIN straying from the topic that we must embellish in. LOL I am (truely, no lie) 6 feet tall, weigh about 150lbs. have brown hair and eyes, and have a very gentle face. To know me would be to be completely unsuspecting of my hidden sexual drives. I have the kind of face that you just want to hug when you have a problem. You are truly a very amusing individual. So you have met LB Yes, I have know her for quite awhile and spent many MANY hours in chat with both of her. You poor boy you...... You know her I assume, and don't like her? Well what would Snowlock Holmes say? Casper and LB , yes I know and I think that what she is doing with them is very wrong. You are strongly opposed to bi-sexuality? No, I'm not, I have felt similar feelings but I don't like someone who is so pushy and when she doesn't get what she wants, she starts spreading rumors and lies about people. That is a very immature individual. yes, if I knew that she was doing those things, I might feel similarly to you. Am I special by having you decide to pick me, or are you a regular at this? What do you mean by "pick"? To just say, "Call me at such and such a number" Didn't I play the role of Welcome Wagon with you? I asked you to call me because I like to talk to you and haven't had the chance for a while. Well, I'm glad that you enjoy talking to me. You are also pleasent to chat with mainly because you are not limited to the few thousand words that several people on this board seem only to know, and you type reasonably fast, so its not frus-trating. I like you. Thank you Christopher, I like you too. Well, it sure is getting late. Time for me to get to bed....... Why is that? No, that was the wrong response for you. I didn't really mean I had to go to bed, you were supposed to say "Ohh, mind if I join you?" something to that effect. I hope that I am not reading you completely wrong and shooting my stupid mouth off right now. No you are not shooting your stupid mouth off right now, and I really enjoy frustrating you completely......Huge grin I can tell. Can you describe youself physically to me (I can learn the emotional and the physiological from your print) ? Well I'm very short, and I have flowing auburn hair, dark brown eyes, and very sensual lips, I love to kiss with these lips. I am also very physically inclinded. Hmmm. That is good to know. How would you describe your build, and how short? Why do I feel like I'm filling out an application for a modeling position on Let's Make a Deal? Sorry, just tell me your Social Security #, and your last place of employment, and we will be done with the preliminaries. hahahaha! That is so funny I don't think I will ever be able to stop laughing...............................hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha HA! Boy you really got a good ole' belly chuckle out a' that one didn't ya'? No. Mmmmm? Confusion. Seriously though, could you describe your build (it helps to formulate an image, you can lie if you need to) Why would I need to lie. I'm not Humpty Dumpty or something like that.... Laugh!! Well, an honest description. Here is where I start to get down on my- self: If you are what you say, why would you waste your time talking to some- one so much younger than yourself, when you no doubt could do much better? Well, I like people, especially young people. That no doubt makes the "young peope" very happy. Can you give me an example of one way in which you express your fondness for the youth? I enjoy the stamina of youth, it seems that the youthful ones are the only one \s that can keep up with my demands....... Laugh. That is probably true, and quite errotic. Hmm. You can ask me anything that you want to, (and I might just even answer it for you) Do you have any problems in your life right now? I feel that there is something that you are not telling me, something that you aren;t comfortable talking about with other people. Hmmm Very observant LadyHawke Holmes, I have had a similar occurance to what is currently taking place with another member on the board who is 22. She is some-what of a nympho (used completely as a compliment) and wants to meet me some-where in actual life, yet I have repetedly asked for a number, or someway to contact her, and she responds with more T-Grams so errotic I'm embarred to read them. But....she won't let me contact her. I don't know if this is intentional or not, but its a little frustrating. I guess that I am really just looking for some kind of substance, some real life thing to cling to, and she just ends up taunting me. :( Sorry to ramble on... Don't appologize, I asked you for goddess sake.....I really hate it when people appologize all over the place. I like hearing you talk, and I would also like to help you with anything you are dealing with. See, here's the deal. We could have chat sex, I could get a brief high out of it, and then it would be a memory. I understand that contacting people outside the board for that purpose is not usually done, and I don't blame anyone for that. It is just I have so much energy built up inside, have no where to release it, and become very frustrated. I hope you can understand me. I understand you completely, I know someone who has the same problem that you do. Who is that? I'm surprised Bitch Bird...oops I mean Lady bird hasn't told you. You need to hit enter about 20 times again, I think that you hit the home key. Thank you. No problem So you see my problem, tell me someone who has a similar one, but offer me no advice or help? Max is just like you, he has so much energy built up that he is constantly looking for ways to release. OK. You don't happen to know anyone who is in the buisness of taking highly charged males and helping them overcome their problems do you? You are being very, "amusing" again. Not very subtle are we? I was actually trying to be very subtle. I am usually to blunt, I will try har-der to be subtle, but I will NOT apologize, in fact I'm glad I said it.... You are ............ something! I don't know whether to take that as a compliment, or a come on. Well, what would you consider a Cum on. A statement like "I would like to meet you in public, and see how everything goes" To me, that would be a cum on. Oh so you like public places? Hmmmmmm. Well, not personally, but usually they make the other person feel more com- fortable. That is my job after all to make other people comfortable, is it not? And how would someone go about making YOU more comfortable Christopher? .............Hmmmmmmmmm? Probably an offer to go to dinner. Conversation tells a lot about someone. And. at dinner (if both parties go there seperately) there is no uncomfortableness about if one person wants to leave or does not like the other person. (That was not very poetic sentence structure, but I got my point out) I'm not grading you on grammar Christopher you don't have to worry about that. I didn't say I was sorry though, did i? No, you didn't and I appreciate that.....What do you like to do? Come on. You are bright. That question is too broad, you need to narrow it down a little bit. And how NARROW would you like me to be. Hmmmmmm......I think that you probably like .......................................................... What? Games are fun, but only in bed. I've said that earlier, and it wasn't just a random thought running throught the recesses of my brain. You are funny. I like it in a way. You push me to tell you what I'd like to do outside of the meeting (perhaps making me thing subconciously.....) and then just sit back and say, Oh, that's intersting.......... I don't play games Christopher. I am a very serious person when it comes to "feelings" both physical and emotional. I have ways of getting the information that I need. Ohh torture is strictly forbidden under the United Nations provisions of POW in section 4 paragraph 7, it clearly states "No female may attempt to remove infor- mation from a perverted male from a BBS, unless the female has the males per- mission......." Enter 20 times. Thanks again. Have you ever been out on a date to dinner, and you just couldn't keep your hands above the table? It is soo hard to get a good meal nowadays. You are very right, you're capturing this aren't you? Haahahahahahahaha! Funny. Anyway, I am soooo frustrated and talking to you makes it worse, but I'm a glutten for punishment. Would Max find you a suitable outlet for his frustra-tions? Max has found me a suitable outlet, but he has others that he does too. Well, you're honest. I admire honesty above most everything else (except a fine-ly shaped ass) LOL You're incorigable. No, I don't even have to be incoriged. I do it without help...LOL I'm sure you do do "it" without help, but do you know how hard it is to type with one hand? I will confess yet another thing: I do not, repeat do not, partake in one-handed self-sports. Perhaps thats part of my frustration, but if its not real, I don't want to touch it. You must be VERY frustrated then. How can you please others if you can't please yourself? Thats the key. Pleasing others IS pleasing myself. Without one, the other is not possible. I am sooo philosophical tonight :) Anyway, did you take pity on Max because of his frustrations and let him have his way with you? LOL No, I really had no choice in the matter, he has a very strong aura and my atrr ...attraction to him was immediate. He is magick....in every sense of the wordk. OK OK, I don't care for the details. I am REALLY trying to be subliminal here witout offending anyone. It is perfectly all right for you to shoot me down, and I will not think any less of you, and will attempt to carry on the same kind of friendship we have thus far created. Why would you think I'm shooting you down? Well, you aren't giving me encouragement. Snowlock Holmes: Regection is not a game where there is a middle ground, you are either accepted or not, not a blend of the two. Since you have not responded to my advances, I can assume that I am on the loosing side of the regection. Watson: Mabey there is something that you havn't considered Snowlock. Snowlock: What's that Watson: I don't know myself, but perhaps now we will......... You are certainly melodramatic aren't you? You must like the theater. See you shot me down. No, I made a statement about your nature. I do like the theater, but that is because of maternal encouragement to attend performances at Little Theater in Dover. I don't do impressions that well though You are an intriguing individual Christopher....... I like speaking with you, you are fun. Am I fun enought to just meet you for dinner (see you made me come out and dir-ectly ask you, but perhaps that was what you were waiting for?) I don't eat food Christopher, I partake of more carnal cuisine. I could cook up some Macaroni with a heap of Hamburger in it. That is very ......... appetizing........ Should I take your second comment back as a no? And what comment would that be? Snowman: Go to dinner? LadyHawke: I do not eat. Well it could be interpreted as a no, but it could also mean other things............ You are Snowlock Holmes, you tell me. I can read your mind (or at least do a pretty good impression of doing so), and I think that you want to go to a resturant with me. No commitments, no expec-tations, conversation is better in person. I don't want you to think I have alterier motives after all that I just told you, but just being able to have a real life meeting with as good of a conversationalist would be an honor. You are too kind. Where would you like to go to eat? ":I Hello? I'm sorry I dropped the keyboard......don't think I'm a klutz please, and don't every tell anyone else how much of one I am......Geeeez I'm so embarrassed. I do not think you are a clutz, but you are a fine avoider of questions Rook to Bishop 3, Where do you want to go to eat at? Do you know Bishop? ARGR!!! Where? You didbn't answer my question, how is it that a man can avoid a question, but a woman can only give in to the will of a man, that seems very stubborn and I have faithfully answered every one of your questions until that last one. Please don't think that I am stubborn, for I am, but if you think so, it ruins the image of my resiliency. I know bishop, he is a good friend of mine, and the same age. Where do you want to go to eat? Didn't I already answer that question? No, you did not. If you did, I did not get the response. I can see you laughing over there at my expence. Games are fun, but only in bed. Can you repeat your answer? You cna see me laughing can you? I repeat, I DO NOT PLAY GAMES!!!!! I do not eat food. I have other things that sustain me. Would you like to meet somewhere a little less.....stuffy? Why would you want to meet an old lady like me? I think that elderly women are more fun.......... Max thinks the exact opposite. He likes younger people. Enter 20 times. You are still capturing this aren't you?....... Funny. Where do you want to meet? (Please tell me where, or just flat out say you don't want to meet, I hate to have us have a conflict, and if pushed much farther, I will no doubt get too frustrated, and become saddened at the conflict that may arise between us) That is one of the things about youth that will never cease to amaze me.......... why is everyone so impatient. We have been chatting for and hour and a half. An hour has been devoted entirely to this topic. A simple "Would you like to go out and where?". Patience I have time I do not. Time, and what does an obvious youth like yourself know about time, you don't have any concept of time, I'm not trying to insult you I'm just stating a truth....... I will see you at the meeting. Mmmmm. Not before? Just trust me,, I will see you at the meeting, we can talk there, then we can decide whether or not you still want to go "out" with me. OK. I am too young to "go out" with you, but I'm not too young to go out with you. Its a paradox. Please don't push me that far. I like to chat and all, but its is just to much tension. I know you were getting angry, and you were being very obvious about it. I can see more than you may think about people, I am very different from any other female you may have crossed paths with in your short lifetime. I like you Christopher, but you need to show less of yourself, especially to people that you don't know very well. You are an intelligent young man, I see that. But don't waste it. enter 20 times If I have one flaw, it is too much trust in others. If my confessions made you uncomfortable, or in some way made you think that I was less of a "man", then they shall cease immediately. No nothing of the sort, I just want you to know that you don't have to be............ a "man" with me all of the time. What else is there to be? Yourself....Your true self, and don't tell me that you are being your true self because i know that isn't the whole truth, maybe some part of you is there. But there is a lot lurking inside you that is afraid to come out. You don't have to be afraid to show it to me. Snowlock: Watson, I believe that she's looking for a confesstion Watson: You know, I believe you are right. What in the devil do you think it could be? Snowlock: I've no idea, lets ask her to narrow down the topic range, but...just to be on the safe side (I am not a homosexual, or a bi-sexual) I know that Christopher, I'm not idiotic or anything. Geeez noone can see what I really know can they. Especially not the ones who are my enemies......like LB Well, I do not think that you are stupid or idiotic. But, I truely have noth-ing else within my mind that is private. Everything of any value or cofidment I have already told you. There is nothing else I think. You think? I think, ergo I am. Wait I thought of something, but its sexually oriented, and I percieve that you think I have something hidden that does not have to do with sex? Its something deeper than sex. Sex is the root from which all drives spring forth. there is nothing deeper than the sex drive. You don't know much about the human mind then do you? More than you think. Tell me what you want to know, and I'll devulge it. I can travel the paths of the human mind so easily that you would think I was born doing it. You may not even be aware of thinking a certain way about a certain thing, or you may be hiding it from yourself, it comes out in the end though. Now you are starting to talk like MiracleMax. What would make you say that? Hmmmmmmmm? I think that the weather should be warm tomorrow. Verry funny, ok. Anyway, you are starting to scare me just a wee might. Why would you have anything to fear, as long as you don't cross me, you are fine. enter 20 times (WHY DO YOU KEEP DOING THAT!?!?!?!?) why do I keep doing what? Hitting the home key. I'm sorry I think sometimes I just type too damn fast. Hmm. I have nothing to fear, but by that last statement, I fear even more. Do you have a reason to think that there is something you have done that would make me cross? Not to my knowledge, but I believe that you have an alternate handle. And what might that be? Wasn't it a nice day today? You are a little shit aren't you..... No Max is my husband. No, Max is your husband. Or Max is not my husband? Max is my husband. That is precisely the kind of relationship I predicted. You scare me almost as much as he does. I can see why you two get along so well. Why does he scare you, and why do I for that matter. Simply because we can see more than others can? Well, #1 You taunt me by drawing me into your personal chat telephone line. #2 You allow me to tell things about myself I would rather not have, simply because you appear to be a listening and kind ear #3 You use your influence as a woman and as an object that I would seek to further extract information #4 you get me angry to the point the you finally release me, but only conditionally. #5 You tell me that I am hiding something, which I am not, and which is "not so deep that I can not even tell I'm hiding it. I am not God, and do not profess to be, nor have I ever lived before, and after my physical body dies, I will die forever, for there is no such thing as a soul. You have been talking to other people too much. Only very few sentences, and the rest was guesswork. You know that I'm a smart kind of "guy" so that part is belivable. I don't know what you are trying to profess, but I am not in the posision to adopt a new philosophy. Who is professing anything. I simply see what i see, The mear fact that you are married allowed you to know that there was no chance of my going out with you. You knew that, and still pretended that such a thing was possible. And what makes you think that Max is so shallow as to not let me do as I please....... What makes you so shallow as to think that I would have sex with a married gal. Since religiously I would not have a problem with it, it would be OK in my book. Yet, socially I do not need the reputation of Adulterer. Are you trying to get me angry? Look at what I type. I only profess the truth. Call me on anything that you want. I am not TRYING TO GET YOU ANGRY, though that may be the end result of what my words produce. And a apologize a thousand fold for that. I just don't want you to think that I can be tricked so easily into getting angry, because I don't get angry unless someone give me a reason to be. I don't care if you do or do not get angry. that point is not germain to this discussion. Isn't it? I'm not so sure, you seem to be very close to anger. You sound like a wind up psychologist. Tell me, what would the normal reaction of anyone be who had been teased such as I have been? I have not teased you. Then you have admitted that you will sleep around while married. Its one or the other, there is no middle ground. Whether I sleep around as you put it is not the issue, it is when and who I choose to do it with that counts and there must be some special reason, not just sex that would make me no better than a common whore. Like some other people I know, who will remain nameless You have admitted it, that was all I was concerned with establishing it. You say that sleeping around is not the issue. I think it is, isn't it? You seem a little insecure about that aspect of life, as if you are hiding something. Of course I'm hiding something. Why would I give away all of my secrets. Thats just it. You deny even yourself to your hidden thoughts. You must un- derstand that this kind of action will only lead to harm. Don't tell me about my thoughts, I am the only one who knows about my thoughts....................... You think that you know yourself, yet you deny yourself that basic necessity of life: Honesty to one's self. You may think you know your own thoughts, but it is just a delusion. LB has many delusions, doesn't she? You have mentioned her several times. I think that you fear her, and yet are attracted to her. You won't even allow yourself the luxury of knowing which. I know exactly how I feel about her, she is using people, she is talking to the wrong peolple about the wrong thing. I will not let her do that. I will not let her get away with that sick shit. She's worn my patience and if she isn't careful I will be forced to show my hand, and I'm carrying all the aces. You avoid the real issue superbly. On the exterior you hate Ladybird, but in- side you love her. There is no use denying it, for you can't even know that yourself, it is too deep for you to comprehend. You are amusing Chris. Yes, and I am not God. This is a real "enlightening" conversation that I have been having with you Justine. You are not very good at slipping, and you may think whatever you want to, only I know the truth. Physically you and MiracleMax are two seperate entities, yet spiritually, and intellectually, you are one. No, he's alot stronger and more powerful than I, that is why I'm handling Lady bitch and not him, he would most likely have disposed of her a long time ago. Power is destructive, and absolute power is absolutely destructive. To end ones life or to do something evil such as "disposing of her" indicated a vindictive personality, one devoid of copassion for human life. Care for others is a basixtennant of existance, and to speak so indicates the beginning of the end. You don't really know what you're saying do you, you think that all of this sounds intelligent and good, but you're just making a fool of yourself , I know what has to be done and I am doing it. Noone is going to get in my way especially not the likes of a pissant like LB. You now finally get the point I have been trying to make. "you think that all of this sounds intelligent and good". On the contrary, I have been spuing pure unadulterated shit for the past 15 minutes and only now has it dawned upon you that it is garbage. The reason I have been doing this is to show you by example the type of sentences you used upon me not too long ago, and to indicate that MiracleMax is in fact a very weak man, who uses words to confuse and pursuade. That is too bad. I'm sorry you think that way, Well, you don't get angry, or so you said, so I will take you at face value. I have noticed that you feel Ladybird is preventing you from doing something, something that "noone is going to get in my way" something important. Yet it is you against world and for that I pity you. Me against the world? I would hardly consider her so important. Tuchee, she by herself is not, but the feelings you try to expell on others are so contrary to basic morals that she can quickly become nearly ALL when and if the time arrives. Good boy. Good gal. I will not degrade you as you have done me, because unlike you I am not angry, I am amused. You preech a good book, but you have to live up to it. I am an aggresivly pursuasive individual and to think that you could sway me was from the start a loosing game. And you are foolish to think that I didn't know who you really were. And who might that be? Her "special friend" Oh contrar, I was very angry to learn the identity of Casper. I am opposed to bi-sexuality, and to have a friend such as her be one was quite a shock. I am still opposed to it, and she knows it. Yet, we are friends. I do not defend her, for that is her responsibility, not mine. For this reason, I let all of your comments about her fly past me. Even if she is doing something morally wrong and illegal. Morally wrong, and until now I did not know "illegal" but I will not challenge your knowledge of laws. As far as being a "special friend", all of my friends are "special". I would not go around saying to people. You are a good "common friend" of mine. hahaha!, That is good, that wouldn't be fair to others, but it still doesn't change the fact that she is doing wrong and it involves children, I'm a mother and so is she and to think that she could do what she is doing makes me sick. That is too bad. Without evidence, (which you CAN NOT provide), I will once again have to dismiss that argument as "speculative and judgemental" OVERRULED But, I do not think that you understand what I mean. I am a very rigid person-ality, and you will not be able to budge me. In fact, if I can not budge YOU myself, than at least we will come to a standstill.. I do not stand for very long my friend. I have the mental stamina of a mountain, and the stubborness of a dozen mules. I can see that, but don't mistake my meaning, I was truthful to you when I said that I like you, just don't get in my way, that's all. I like you as well. I just dont' trust you. I don't mean that as a criticizm, it is just the way I feel. Also, I am SUCH a rebel, that I usually will undertake causes (such as providing you an oposition or "getting in your way". Were it not for me, the "Canton Connection Meetings" would not exist. This is the extent of my influence and power. Do you think that impresses me? It is not meant to. It is mearly a statement of my (not intentions) basic drives. King, to Knight 4 I have enough people that i have to deal with, you are not one of them and I wnat it to stay that way. I will do what I have to. Please don't make me feel that you are going to be a problem. Once I find out exactly what it is that you are espousing, should I be so com-pletely opposed to it, that I fear for others, you will indead find me in your way. Should this occur, we should still be able to chat like this without anger. I mean no harm to others, I just want to do what I have to do. That inclusdes whatching out for those who can't nessesarily see what they have in front of them. You keep talking about your mission. Perhaps you would care to impart what is so god-awful important. If you do not, I will understand that you are either planning something malign in nature, you are secretive, or you are embarrased of the plans. I would love to tell you, but you would not hear it well, becasue you see that only ones that know are the ones that are supposed to know. And as I know that you are not one of those, I can not tell you. Well, that is a likely story, and covers that nice ass of yours nicely. I expected some kind of response (like the one you told me was intelligent sounding, but nonscence) like that. I'm sorry that you are so non trusting of me, I told you the truth, take it or do not take it, you will hear no more about it from me. That is just as well. I think that I look forward to this kind of conflict in a sadistic sort of way ... This is too serious. You will think me mad, but what are you dressed in? those drives again?..... What can I say, they are on a time schedule. I am wearing a long t-shirt, it has a silly looking rabbit on it. Can I just say something. Though we seem to be arguing about nothing, you have to admit that it is very rewarding in a way to banter with someone who is your intellectual equal, don't you? I will not insult you by challenging that remark, but you have not lived long enough to be my equal. What I lack in experience, I make up for in imagination.... That was not the jist of my thought though. Isn't it somehow rewarding for you to talk to me? Only if you make it worth my while. And thus far you have. Good, we don't have to be so serious all of the time. Debate is good, but is augmented by the ocasional comic relief. I don't know how you can remain so solid for so long. Because i know what has to be done, you don't. Stop it stop it. No more serious talk. I can't take it with only 3.5 hours of sleep to look forward. Can we partake in a more....enjoyable style of prose chat before I must lay my weary head to bed? Yes I suppose that we could, but could I get something to drink first, I'm dying of thirst over here. Fine go ahead, I'll wait a minute Thank you.......Hello? Hello I'm back sorry I took so long. Did you have ta' go potty too? You brat. laugh.... Yes I had to tinkle. LOL. This is fun. I hope you don't like me "Chris" anymore. I'm sorry, but you got me poed. Poed? Sorry no punctuation P.O.ed Oh OK. End of that. (Can we agree in the future that no matter how riled up we get, we will always show each other the basic courtesy of politeness though) I guess that is not too much to ask..... Anyway, you were telling me about your T-Shirt with the silly little animal on it... And what was that animal? Just let me think a sec (I remember, I really do) Hmmmm a rabbit? You cheated. How could you tell? I live with a programmer, did you expect me not to know you were looking at the spillover. LOL, You know, I actually kind of love you in a weird ASCII sort of way. I can't get away with too much. Things which I could easily pull on others are a challenge (though not impossible ) to pull on you. I love you too. Then the sentiment is shared equally. What is your warm little bottom adorned with? My "warm little bottom" is adorned with the couch I am sitting on. What cloth covers its face? I think I just told you. I was in denial.. You are bare? I always go without when I am at home. Hey, if you can't be free at home, where can ya' be? That is what I have always felt. I even used to go outside with nothing on before, but I can't do that where I am now. Too many peeping Tom's huh? Well yeah, but its the neiborhood. Its just not conducive to the tingling sensation I used to get when I would "streak" :) You mean that at this very moment, you could reach down and strock your glossy legs without any resistance from fabric? Yes Christopher, I could......... Hmm. You can ask me some questions now, but I doubt the'll be as rewarding asyour answers were. What kind of skin do you have? Hmmmm. Creamy, unblemished from any pre-Spring tan, soft, hairy around the legs, and heads, and very touchable. Don't think I didn't see that subliminal message that you gave me..... It wouldn't make a bit of difference anyway....... Well you sure as heck think I was odd if I was black and complained about not having a tan wouldn't you? But anyway, next question (this is fun) What is the most touchable part of your body? The second most touchable part of my body is my face, it is so warm and wel- coming, that you just want to bury yourself in it.... That wasn't what i asked now was it....... No it wasn't, but you can ask something else.... What is the most expressive feature about your face? My eyes, I can permutate them into so many different combinations of posistions that I could wear a mask concealing everything but my eyes, and I could show exactly what I was feeling, (right now, they are hanging kind of low) Do you smoke? No Do you smoke other things?.... No I'm just your ole' clean cut "oh-he's-so-nice-but-I'd-never-date-him" sort of Ohioan guy. What do you think of forigners? They usually don't put out as fast. And unless they are Scandinavian, they do't look as good generally. TSk tsk tsk. What was wrong with that answer? You don't know what I might be? I didn't say that they were ugly. I just said that Scandinavians look better generally. You could be drop-dead sexy, and to me the fact would still be true. What do you think of accents? It depends on which ones. Each one has a different connotation in my mind. British accents. Generally sound scholorly. Can range from snobby to low class, but most people generall fit into the middle. You truly have a fascinating view of things that you don't really know about. Thats part of my charm. Is it? Yes Are you tired? Yes, but not too tired, if you know what I mean. I know exactly what you mean. Its never a bad time for Orange Juice. Depends on how its squeezed..... Personally I like mine fresh and pulpy. Hello? I'm here. It was your turn to talk. I know. Are you OK? I'm thinking of something. We are on a beach in southern Sacremento. Walking slowly, the salt air in our hair, dusk, and no one is around. Gepo lacktor mak tu. Keif Halock? Muy bien Senorite. Merci bocu. Ich bin oder keinen bruder oder neined scwester. Very funny. First was Arabic, then Spanish, the French, the German. What the heck did what you say mean, and how did it pertain to an errotic environment? It means "the way of the water" Are you too tired for this kind of encounter. I know that at your age, you just don't have the endurance that you used to. If you are too tired then by all means get some sleep.... Nice try Christopher. Add some detail or please tell me something errotic to keep the flow moving. do you not know what the statement refers to. No, I assumed it meant good ploy into making me make you think that you were too old. What did I misunderstand? Well, it is in the way of the water that we find the motions of love making. The waves are rhythmic. Very good. Thats part of my charm. Hello? I'm here. What in the hell are you doing? That is a very good question. Good Night. Why do you say that? I am too tired to keep pushing to make this happen. If you can't or won't put forth some effort of your own, its not worth it. That isn't very patient of you. I sat there 2 times for quite a while while not a character appeared on the screen, yet the minute I typed "hello" you were there. Yes, that is usually the polite thing to do, when someone speaks to you. I will not play these games. I am sad that after all of this you do this. And what am I doing? Not giving you what you want........ I told you I dont play games, and I don't like being pushed. I wasn't pushing. 2 times it was your turn to talk. I know, I was thinking about something, you interupted my thoughts. Sorry, but I can't live a life of not knowing if your next responce will take 20 seconds or 2 minutes. What do you have a stopwatch or something....sheeesh! I just gave you ample time to at least start the thought that you were thinking. You wouldn't like ti. No, I don't suppose I would. I'll see you later. And I will be inquiring many things about you from others, so don't think I'm going behind your back. I'm telling you flat out, I'm going to try to find out as much as I can. That is fine with me. good night Good night Christopher, I'm sorry if you didn't get what you were looking for, but that is sometimes the way life is. Sometimes life throws you a curve ball, and sometimes it just a LadyBird NO CARRIER ******************************************************************************************* --- Posts from MichaelÕs (here - MiracleMax) shortlived Celtic Forum ºThis forum is for Celtic/Irish discussion.º º º º MiracleMax is your ForumOp º Your current Forum is /Celtics: Celtic Legend Date: Sunday, May 2, 1993 4:52pm /Celtics From: MiracleMax Msg#: 46884 To: ** ALL ** Re: I recommend to all who are interested in the Celtic customs and lifestyles that they read THE PENDRAGON CYCLE: They are in three volumes: BOOK ONE - Taliesin BOOK TWO - Merlin BOOK THREE - Arthur I'm sure that you will enjoy these books as much as Idid , and please leave any comments or ideas posted here. Anything involving Celtic lifestyle or related topics can be posted here. Also anything dealing with Arthurian Legend is in its proper place here. I will answer all posts promptly.. Thank you Maximillian Forum Operator Date: Sunday, May 2, 1993 4:57pm /Celtics From: MiracleMax Msg#: 46885 To: Ramsey Re: neat forum (Reply to #46831) Thank you Ram'z, I really appreciate your interest in this topic, and everyone who takes an interest in this subject is free to post here, Perhaps you could provide me with more information about the Games in Canal Fulton...I have never attended but I would be very int finding out more about it. Again thank you for posting, I look forward to hearing from you again. 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