================================== B R I T C O M E D Y D I G E S T ================================== VOL. II SPECIAL DOUBLE ISSUE NOV/DEC 1995 No. 5 WOMEN IN COMEDY / BEN ELTON AND HIS BOWELS A monthly electronic newsletter on British comedies. WOMEN IN COMEDY SPECIAL ISSUE: * WRITE TO YOUR FAVORITE COMEDIAN! * THE FRENCH AND SAUNDERS FAQ * THE A-Z OF WOMEN IN BRITISH COMEDY * JO BRAND: A MINI-BIO * EDITORIAL: "THE THIN BLUE VEIN" * AOL BLACKADDER FANS HOLD CYBER-CHAT WITH STEPHEN FRY Regular Departments: * Mailbox * Britcomedy News * Newsquirks * BD Recommends * Quote-o'-the-Month * etc. * Circulation/Back Issues Staff ===== Managing Editor..................Melinda 'Bob' Casino Co-Editor........................Michelle Street Copy Editor......................Cynthia Edwards Chocolate Hob-Nob gopher.........James Kew Contributing writers: Michael Clarkson, Jay McLaren, Michelle Street. HTML logo by Nathan Gasser. Britcomedy Digest (ISSN 1077-6680) Copyright (c) 1995 by Melinda Casino. Reproduction for personal and non-profit use is permitted only if this copyright notice is retained. Any other reproduction is prohibited without permission. Britcomedy Digest may be uploaded without the editor's permission to bulletin boards as long as it remains fully intact. NOTICE: In order to preserve the integrity of Britcomedy Digest, use of the "BRITCOMEDY DIGEST" name to gain interviews, etc., is forbidden without the express permission of the Managing Editor. EDITOR'S PAGE ============= Think of this issue as a Christmas present, all wrapped up in silver foil and gold ribbon. Why the "gift" baloney? Because BD has hit it's one-thousandth subscriber (thank you, Steffen Fjaervik), much to my amazement. Amazement because BD is the voluntary work of a few people who love British comedy and the internet. We all (well, almost all) are either college students or holding down 9 to 5 jobs with little spare time to devote to this newsletter. But, aw, shucks -- we're just good-natured and have prepared this special double-issue for you as a way of wishing you 'happy holidays.' Unfortunately, we couldn't fit the annual Christmas TV Guide in, nor the news of who won what on "The British Comedy Awards"... but hang in there -- we'll issue an extra edition of BD before the holidays. Just call us giving people. :) -- Melinda Casino, Managing Editor MAILBOX ======= Delighted to see your e-zine on the net, keep up the good work. Pleased to realize we poms are not alone in the appreciation of a sense of the totally ridiculous. Do you do any Tommy Cooper? I know his humour is non-textual, but he was one of the funniest I have ever seen, reducing one to helpless paroxysms of weeping laughter with the most pathetic scripts. Maybe when the net becomes more adept at real-time visuals we may see more of him, if any footage survives. Best regards and well done, John Treanor (ex-scouser) johny@albanyis.com.au, Western Australia EDITOR'S RESPONSE: I do indeed do some Tommy Cooper, but you wouldn't want to hear it, it's pretty bad... There is plenty of footage left of Tommy Cooper, as he was one of the subjects in the recently televised "heros of comedy" series. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hi Melinda! A quick question that you may be able to answer. What happened to the first actress to play "Zoe" on "From May to December"? Eve Matheson only appeared for the first 13 episodes. Is there something truly juicy behind it? Or something terribly sad? Let me know. On the same subject, do you know what else Paul Venables from the same series has been in? He looks familiar but I can't place him. Yours, Alysia Gray, ALYSIA@knme_073.unm.edu KNME-TV, University of New Mexico EDITOR'S RESPONSE: I couldn't tell ya. Readers? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Do you keep any kind of a schedule for when series run in different parts of the U.S.? We've just started running "Mr. Bean" on Channel 9 here in Seattle, and I'd like to let people know about it. Sheila Ryan, sunds@kcts.org Seattle, Washington EDITOR'S RESPONSE: We used to run a section called "What's On" that listed PBS stations' British comedy programming; however, after a Reader's Survey which proved that it was one of the least popular sections in BD, and due to lack of participation, we decided to pull it. The best way to let people know about it is to post the information on alt.comedy.british. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - MAILBOX: Send letters to with the subject heading "Letter to the Editor." Include your full name and location. All letters submitted are assumed to be for publication unless marked otherwise. BD reserves the right to edit letters for reasons of space or clarity. BRITCOMEDY NEWS --------------- PAUL EDDINGTON DIES OF CANCER Actor Paul Eddington has succumbed to cancer at the age of 68. Eddington had been in poor health for some time, suffering from diabetes and a rare form of skin cancer. Eddington was known for his roles in popular television comedies. In "The Good Life," he played Penelope Keith's husband; in "Yes Minister" and "Yes, Prime Minister," he turned in a memorable performance as naive but well-meaning political pawn Jim Hacker. "Yes Minister" co-star Derek Fowlds said, "It was wonderful to be in his company. He always made me laugh." "Good Life" actor and close friend Richard Briers remarked, "I don't think I've known a more smashing bloke in all my years in showbusiness." Paul Eddington passed away on 4 November. He will be missed. BEN ELTON SQUEEZES ANOTHER COMEDY OUT The much-anticipated Ben Elton/Rowan Atkinson comedy, "The Thin Blue Line," has finally hit the fan, so to speak. It casts Atkinson as the meticulous and conservative "Inspector Fowler." Reaction on the 'net is mixed, but one thing's for sure: we've all underestimated the importance of Richard Curtis. The "Thin Blue Line" airs Mondays at 8:30 PM on BBC1. See this issue's BD Recommends and Editorial. COSBY TO STAR IN AMERICAN "ONE FOOT IN THE GRAVE" After a bidding war with rival NBC, the CBS network has announced the signing of sitcom legend Bill Cosby to star in an American version of the television comedy, "One Foot In The Grave." Though the premise will remain the same, reports indicate that the title will most likely be changed to something a little more upbeat and that the main character will not be retired but a middle-aged man going through a mid-life crisis. (Shades of "Reginald Perrin" there...) Cosby has signed a rare two-year, forty-four episode deal to play that retired curmudgeon "Victor Meldrew," taking on the role originated by Richard Wilson. No word yet on who will be rounding out the cast. There may be a bit of hope for this one. The struggling CBS is definitely a network in dire need of a hit, and looking back at "All In The Family" and "Sanford and Son," it has a good track record when it comes to transplanting British sitcoms. HOL? READ MY LIPS: WHAT-IS-HAP-PENNING? "Red Dwarf" fans have been waiting a long time for a seventh series of the popular sci-fi/comedy series; and now they are going to have to wait a little longer. Despite rumours to the contrary, the seventh series has not started filming yet, and won't until around March 1996. It is not expected to reach the small screen until January of '97. The entire regular cast are scheduled to return, including Chris Barrie, who had been sitting on the fence ever since the last series ended. To the disappointment of many fans, there will not be a studio audience present during taping. Only afterwards will the new episodes be shown to two audiences, in order to add a laugh track. In the meantime, "Dwarfers" in California can indulge in a "Red Dwarf" night on December 10. PBS affiliate KTEH will be showing all of season six that evening. For more information about activities that evening and about "Bay Area Dwarfers" (aka "BAD"), send e-mail to . TONY HANCOCK FANS UNITE! Hancock fans, point your web browsers to http://www.ncl.ac.uk/~nnac and get ready for a treat. The Homepage of "The Tony Hancock Appreciation Society" ("THAS") is online and well worth a visit. The page is still under construction, but you can obtain biographical information on the man and the Society, which already boasts honorary members such as legendary comedy writers Ray Galton and Alan Simpson. For more info, send email to . WHO'S THAT THEN? Who's that familiar-looking guy in the funny new Sainsbury's advert? Why it's no less than a still very tall but this time mustachioed John Cleese. Cleese's ad follows in the footsteps of that of his "Fawlty Towers" co-star Prunella Scales' advert for Tescos. He portrays a cook who, among other things, tells viewers to "get a clean work surface" and promptly pushes cooking utensils onto the floor. This is not Cleese's first venture into advertising. In the States he has hawked everything from Magnavox electronic products to fertilizer to sparkling mineral water. STARS GIVE 100% FOR CHARITY Every November, the BBC and its stars prove that the spirit of giving doesn't have to wait until the Christmas season. The BBC had its 16th annual Charity Night on Friday, November 24th, in support of the "Children In Need" appeal. The comedy stars turned out in force. Chris Barrie starred as "Gordon Brittas" in a special edition of "The Brittas Empire" with no less than famed boxer Frank Bruno. Also putting in a guest appearance was "Hycanith Bucket" -- er, Bouquet -- who starred in a special "Keeping Up Appearances." The casts of "Men Behaving Badly" went to heaven to promote the children's charity, while comedy duo Vic Reeves and Bob Mortimer were uncharacteristically serious in a half-hour special entitled "A Smell Of Nature." Meanwhile, Channel 4 promoted World Aids Week by showing "The Big Snog," which aided the Hysteria Trust. Lenny Henry introduced the proceedings with a little help from Steve Coogan (aka "Alan Partridge"), Eddie Izzard, and Dale Winton. SAFFIE UPDATE What does one do for an encore after playing "Lydia Bennett" in the BBC's acclaimed production of "Pride and Prejudice"? Why, a comedy of course! Julia Sawalha ("Absolutely Fabulous") is cast as yet another distressing daughter in "Faith In The Future." This is a remake of the ITV series "Second Thoughts," but without the participation of leading man James Bolam. The series also stars Linda Bellingham. "Second Thoughts" was originally a Radio 4 series and made its TV debut in 1991. Sawalha plays the teenage daughter of a divorced couple who wonders if they still love each other. RUTLEMANIA Who cares about the Beatles reunion when Dirk, Barry, Stig, and Nasty are back! ...well, that's not *entirely* true... it's only Nasty who's reformed with himself, but nevertheless get ready for another round of Rutlemania devoted to the Pre-Fab Four. The new Rutles tune called "I Don't Know Why" was premiered on the final episode of the satirical TV show "Rory Bremner Who Else?" Neil Innes, along with ex-Python Eric Idle, masterminded the brilliant Beatles parody and played "Ron Nasty." They celebrated the Fab Four reunion by performing a take-off of the much-hyped song "Free As A Bird." Lucky for us, Jeff Lynne was not allowed to produce. Here is a transcription of the lyrics and the setup to the song: CAPTION: Last week ex-Rutle Ron Nasty found a demo tape in a garage in East London. Reforming by himself, the first Rutles single for 25 years was released... "I DON'T KNOW WHY" I don't know why (I don't know why) The world turns out to be the world it was, As time goes by I don't know why (I don't know why) When love turns out to be the stuff between 'Hello and goodbye' Looking back, with 20/20 hindsight, We only try to play our part, But when selfishness shows up in the yard, (Run end credits here) We just go and put locks on our heart... Oh why (Oh why), I don't know why (I don't know why...) True love turns out to be the stuff between 'hello and goodbye'... (Fade out. Then cut to the end roller). ...and goodbye. (Drum and into quick piano tune to end) The piano tune at the end was a few bars from the theme song to Spike Milligan's "Q5." Apparently Innes was paying tribute not only to The Beatles. To visit the Rutles homepage point your web browser to: http://www.primenet.com/~dhaber/rutles.html NEW WALLACE AND GROMIT FILM AIRS THIS CHRISTMAS Nick Park and company have created a new "Wallace and Gromit" animated film. "A Close Shave," is 30 minutes long, and the plot ingredients consist of porridge, knitting and romance. Chances are you know someone in your family who is a big fan of Wallace and Gromit. At least, that's what Nick Park is hoping, as he's licensed alarm clocks, back-packs, school accessories, cards, magnets, t-shirts and piggy-banks based on the dynamic duo. The latest installment is due to be shown at the Institute of Contemporary Arts cinema prior to its TV showing on Christmas day. It'll be released on video December 27th (#9.99). With the t-shirts, alarm clocks and videos, it looks like it's going to be a "Wallace and Gromit" Christmas. NEWSQUIRKS ---------- pixels in the press TIMOTHY WEST, AKA SYBILL'S SON Sam West, son of Prunella Scales and Timothy West, is currently appearing in the films "Persuasion" and "Carrington." ONE SMALL STEP FOR MANNING, ONE GIANT STEP BACK FOR MANKIND The comedian Bernard Manning has won a racial discrimination claim in the Old Bailey Court (London). The claim had been brought by two waitress who had been working at a hotel in Derbyshire while Manning had been giving a charity concert there. They claimed that Manning had made them the butt of racial discrimination during the concert and was in breach of the Race Discrimination Act. The judge ruled that there was no evidence of this. Both ladies plan to appeal. WHO THE FUCK IS BUYING? In the "Ripley's Believe It Or Not" folder: The 1970s group "Smokie" have revived a Top 10 hit from their 1974 song, "Living Next Door to Alice," with more than a few subtle differences. Roy "Chubby" Brown has decided to add a few touches, asking "Who the fuck is Alice?!" during the refrain. The single has become a Number 3 hit in the UK. A CHRISTMAS WISH... Comic Relief have produced their own set of 10 Christmas cards. The cards depict some top comedy stars -- Rowan Atkinson as "Mr. Bean," Richard Wilson as "Victor Mildrew," and the cast of "Men Behaving Badly" are just three of the top stars who are taking part in the festivities. The cards are available in the UK, and are selling rather quickly. Proceeds go to Comic Relief Charity. COMING ROUND AGAIN Ronnie Corbett, one-half of "The Two Ronnies," has recently appeared on a new TV special described as "the best sketches he did." Without Ronnie Barker, though, the show did not have the edge of the classic years of "The Two Ronnies." Significant, though, to note the writing credits: Chapman, Cleese, Jones and Palin were all listed. ### * Please send news items to Michelle Street . Thanks to Michael Clarkson, Chris Clifford, and Paul Rhodes. E D I T O R I A L / O P I N I O N P A G E =========================================== DISILLUSIONED BEN ELTON FAN DETECTS A "THIN BLUE VEIN" by Jay McLaren, mclaren@euronet.nl To Ben Elton, wherever you are... Sorry, Ben, but that was really weak! I just went through the episode for the third time, because I couldn't believe how thin "The Thin Blue Line" was. With at least three dubious references to the fact that the Atkinson character dislikes gays, some equally subtle stuff about the mincing constable, a few pops at the Queen. Some reassuring jokes about black men's dicks. And the fascinating switched "wrong love-gifts" routine which was the climax (echoes of "Othello" and Classic French Farce). Exquisitely done, and just as fresh as when it was first used about 420 years ago... On another historical note, I notice you've been environmentally friendly and recycled the joke about not being able to plug in a computer, which went down so hilariously in the first episode of "Filthy, Rich and Catflap" all those years ago... As you said yourself "Better watch out, this is dangerous stuff." I saw your interview with Monkhouse where you said how hard you've been working with the live act. It shows, mate. Could you use some fresh help? Ben, couldn't you think up a pseudonym for yourself before they ran the credits? ### Jay McLaren lives in The Netherlands. Britcomedy Digest welcomes contrasting views. Mail editorial pieces and rebuttals to with the subject "EDITORIAL." __________________________________________________________________________ Maestro, cue the music of Raw Sex please. It's an article about... FRENCH AND SAUNDERS... BAH BEE DOO WEE OOOOH by Michelle Street I became a French and Saunders fan after discovering alternative comedy many moons ago. I guess part of the reason I'm such a fan is that I relate to them so much. Consider the following scary coincidences: * Dawn and Jennifer both came from military families. So did the author of this article. (Ok, not too scary yet but the lights are starting to flicker.) * Dawn and Jennifer both trained to be teachers. So did the author of this article. (Wind starts to rustle and howl.) * Dawn French grew up to be extremely short (ok, let's make DIDN'T grow up) :) and developed an enormous affection for chocolate. So, too, did the author of this article. (Windows rattle.) * Jennifer Saunders, on the other hand, grew up with a tendency to dye her hair and drink lots of wine. So did the author of this article. (Doors fly open! Lightning strikes! AAAGGHGHH!) All right, all right, seriously, I do believe part of the reason for French and Saunder's popularity is that I'm not the only person who can relate to them. Despite the crazed characters they've played they come off as *real* people. They also come off as people you'd like to know. And know them you will (at least a bit better) after you're done reading this. THE FRENCH AND SAUNDERS FAQ 1) So how did these two godheads of comedy meet? Well, they met back in the '70s when they were both training to be drama teachers at the Central London School of Drama. They ended up sharing a flat and despite Dawn's claim that Jennifer was the flat bully they began a friendship and professional collaboration which endures to this day. 2) Where did they get their start? At Peter Richardson's Club "The Comic Strip" during the early '80s. It all began as a joke, but Richardson kept encouraging them to hone their act and they became semi-regulars. Their most popular bit at this time was called "Psychodrama," about two neurotic women meeting for the first time in years. 3) What else did they do before their *big* break? When several other performers at "The Comic Strip" (Monsieurs Rik Mayall, Ade Edmondson, and Nigel Planer) got their break into the world of television via "The Young Ones," they took French and Saunders along by casting them in several episodes. You may remember Dawn being told to "piss off, floppy ears" by Vyv when she came in as the Easter Bunny, and Jennifer as Rik's pretend girlfriend, the completely mad murderess "Helen Mucus" in the episode entitled "Time." 4) Ok, so what did they do after that? Well, with the success of "The Young Ones," in which four guys shared a flat, the girls decided it was their turn and came up with "Girls On Top" in which (WOW!) four girls shared a flat and had a wacky landlady. The series was written by French, Saunders, and Ruby Wax with Ben Elton serving as script editor. It was transmitted in 1985-1986. In this series French (playing a bossy, feminist sort) and Saunders (as a complete no-brain) were joined by Ruby Wax (as a -- quelle surprise -- loud American) and Tracey Ullman (as a lying, conniving little bimbo). The regular cast was rounded out by Joan Greenwood, who played their landlady... *not* "Mr. Balowski." After the first series Tracey Ullman left to seek fame and fortune in the US, but a second series was made. Much like "The Young Ones," the series ends with an explosion mainly because the principals involved didn't want to get stuck in a long-running series. The characters and the house they live in are all destroyed when the landlady lights a stash of petrol she has been accumulating. 5) You mentioned someone named Ruby Wax. Who's she? Ruby Wax is an American expat from suburban Chicago who moved to England at age 18 apparently due to a Beatles obsession (I can relate) :) and has made a bit of a name for herself as a writer, performer, and television chat show hostess. She has presented several series, including "Don't Miss Wax" and "The Full Wax," and also performed at many of the important benefits, including the "Hysteria!" benefits for AIDS. She is also credited as script editor on "Ab Fab" and is married to Ed Bye, who has worked behind-the-scenes on "The Young Ones," "Bottom," and "Red Dwarf." 5) And THEN what did they do? Beginning around 82, the women had also became involved with an ongoing series of television and feature length films that were released under the banner of "The Comic Strip Presents." Along with Dawn and Jennifer these films starred Rik Mayall, Ade Edmondson, Nigel Planer, and Peter Richardson, who were on occasion were joined by Robbie Coltrane and Alexei Sayle. The "Comic Strip" films varied in tone, subject, and style and gave the participants a real chance to show off their acting chops. Jennifer was especially memorable impersonating Meryl Streep opposite Peter Richardson's Al Pacino in "The Strike," and Dawn was great as the scheming maid in "Consuela." Both contributed scripts to the series as well, coming up together and on their own with such gems as "Summer School" and "Slags." 6) Didn't they get their own series? Yes, they sure did. "French and Saunders" starred the two ladies backed by the music (and sometimes acting skills) of Raw Sex, better known as Simon Brint and Roland Rivron. Later, terrific singer/songwriter Kirsty MacColl was given a spot to do a song and during one of the series they were even joined by the "Hot Hoofers" (a dance team who were neither hot nor very good hoofers). "French and Saunders" debuted in 1987 and was important in that it caused "alternative" comedy to be more accepted by mainstream public. They weren't the loud, crude potty mouths that made up "The Young Ones"; nor were they doing highly politicized rantings like Ben Elton. Their skits were sharply observed and well-acted. One of them, called "Modern Mother," would be the embryo for "Absolutely Fabulous." 7) You mentioned "Ab Fab." What else has Jennifer done without Dawn?" One of Jennifer's first break-out performances was in the Ben Elton-scripted "Happy Families." Ok, ok, if you want to get technical this is not Jennifer on her own because Dawn had a role as the cook, but this was clearly Jennifer's time to shine. She played five different roles in this intricately plotted sitcom about Granny Fuddle's attempts to reunite her wayward daughters. Why does the mean ol' Granny need the daughters she has long despised? For an organ transplant she thinks she needs. The daughters agree to do this as long as Granny signs over her estate to them. She does so and then comes the punch line... Granny's not dying after all, she's just pregnant. Yet it is "Ab Fab" that has given Jennifer the most attention, and even more so since she sold the rights to Roseanne to make an American version. What's going to happen to "Ab Fab" once it reaches America is still unclear. Last reports indicated that TV execs were so horrified by the booze and drug-laden scripts they were seeing that its future is still up in the air. 8) What has Dawn done without Jennifer? She has starred in several series of her own, including a series devoted to food called "Scoff," "Murder Most Horrid," and last year she played the title role in the Richard Curtis scripted "Vicar of Dibley." In the early '90s she also had a successful run in the West End as the star of Ben Elton's "Silly Cow." In this ingeniously plotted attack on the gutter press she played Dorris Wallis, a tabloid journalist who gets her comeuppance at the hands of those she has trashed in print. 9) What about their private lives? Jennifer is married to Ade Edmondson of "The Young Ones" and "Bottom" fame and they have three daughters named Freya, Beattie, and Ella. Dawn is married to "Chef" star Lenny Henry and they have an adopted daughter, Billie. In their act they sometimes pretend to hate each other, but in real life they are apparently the best of friends. 10) What's in the future for them? Jennifer is playing "Mrs. Bluveridge" in the upcoming "Muppet Treasure Island" film. And if the recent picture of Dawn French in "People" magazine dressed up as "Baywatch" babe Pamela Anderson is any indication, there seems to be another series of "French and Saunders" in the works. Since they haven't worked together in quite a while it'll be great to see them team up again. Given their track record it'll no doubt have been worth the wait. ### JO BRAND: A MINI-BIO ==================== by Michelle Street Jo Brand's previous job working with mentally unstable psychiatric patients must have been great practice for what would be become her next gig: facing drunken hecklers in the comedy clubs of London. She seems to attract a lot of them and they were out in force the first time I saw her at the Comedy Store. As she took the stage to compere the evening a group of guys from the back, there for a bachelor party, started to heckle her. They should've known better. They didn't get far as Brand immediately reminded them of the "Comedy Store" policy which states that anyone who heckles her has to shag her afterwards. Let's just say these lads were pretty quiet the rest of the evening. Yes, Jo Brand is tough, but there's still a strong well of self-deprecating wit which to an extent softens her. She makes fun of her weight problem, describes herself as looking like a "jelly fish," and was commonly referred to as "The Sea Monster." Yet that has all worked in her favour and has not stopped her from becoming one of the top female comedy talents working in Britain today. She came to comedy rather late in life, though she had considered going into it since she was a teenager. Instead of following her comedic instincts, she at first studied sociology and psychology and trained as a psychiatric nurse. She worked at a psychiatric emergency clinic in Camberwell until 1988, when she decided that she could do what the performers she'd seen at the cabarets could do. She was right and a star was born. That same year she performed at both the Montreal Comedy Festival and the Edinburgh Fringe Festival and by 1990 she had become so respected that she was awarded the "01 For London/Time Out" Cabaret Award. These were followed in '92 with a nomination for the "Perrier Pick Of The Fringe" Award at the Edinburgh Festival as well as winning the British Comedy Award for "Best Live Performer." Much of Brand's material is a self-mocking look at herself as well as talking about cakes and penises -- but there is a fierce intelligence and a "take no prisoners" attitude to her. This attitude distinguishes her work while at the same time gets up the noses of some people. Her career has spanned all mediums. On TV she has been seen on such highly rated series as "Have I Got News For You," "Absolutely Fabulous," and was co-host of "The Brain Drain" as well as starring in her own Channel 4 series, "Jo Brand - Through The Cakehole." She has done a significant amount of radio, including appearances on "The Mary Whitehouse Experience," "The Jonathan Ross Radio Show," and "Missed Demeanors." In 1994 she even put her gutsy brand of humour into print when she published "A Load Of Old Balls," her look back at "great" men in history. If you're not familiar with the work of Jo Brand, this book would be a good place to start. Also available is "Through The Cakehole: The Best Of Jo Brand On Video." It contains a collection of her best stand-up routines and sketches from her first solo television series on Channel 4. For maximum effect, however, pop down to "The Comedy Store" or another venue whenever she's performing and see her with a live crowd. You're welcome to heckle, but just don't *ever* think you'll get the best of her. ### Jo Brand has just received the 1995 British Comedy Award. =================================== THE A-Z OF WOMEN IN BRITISH COMEDY version 1.0 Created & maintained by Michelle Street, =================================== ____________ Introduction This is only a start. I would like this to become as complete and detailed as possible and maintain it as an archived list and/or create a web page. If you have any comments, concerns, etc. just keep them to yourself, ok? Hahahaha... just kidding... seriously, *please* email any additions, corrections, or comments to . Thanks in advance! _____________ Jo Brand - Brash comedienne who loves cake and is the possessor of an extraordinarily caustic wit and a dead-on, deadpan delivery. Eleanor Bron - A member of the Cambridge University "Footlights" Club, she proved herself during the early 60s to be extremely adept at writing and performing sketch comedy, often teamed with John Bird. As Princess Ahmed, she also tried to keep the Beatles out of trouble in "Help" Patsy Bryne - Best known for her role as the dingy Nursie/Bernard in "Blackadder 2." Carol Cleveland - Playing second banana to the Pythons couldn't have been easy but she managed to make her mark. Who can forget the classic... "But it's my only line!" or how she lured unsuspecting milkman Michael Palin into her lair of milkmen. Jenny Eclair - Feisty stand-up who started out on the poetry circuit and ended up winning the coveted Perrier "Pick of the Fringe" Award. Dawn French - She and her partner Jennifer Saunders form one of the most popular double acts in British comedy. Rebecca Front - One of the wonderful cast of supporting players from "Knowing Me, Knowing You" "On The Hour," and "The Day Today." She also cavorted in a hot tub with Christopher Ryan during an episode of "Ab Fab." Jane Horrocks - Best known as the ditzy Bubbles on "Ab Fab," she was also wonderful in director Mike Leigh's "Life Is Sweet." Kit Hollerbach - A Brit only by association (she's American but married to fellow comedian Jeremy Hardy), Hollerbach made something of a name for herself in Britain on the "alternative" circuit and as a writer. Penelope Keith - One of the grand dames of the British sitcom. Penelope Keith and her splendid comedic timing have been on display in such classic series as "The Good Life," "To The Manor Born," and "Executive Stress." Most recently seen as a grandmother trying to raise her grandchildren after their parent's death in "Next Of Kin." Felicity Kendall - Star of "The Good Life" and "Solo," she was also known as the object of Rik's desire on "The Young Ones." She's also done extensive stage work, appearing quite often in the plays of her paramour, Tom Stoppard. Josie Lawrence - Extraordinarily talented comedienne, actress, and singer seen improvising on "Whose Line Is It Anyway?" She's also done several sitcoms, including the cleverly named "Josie" and appeared in the movie "Enchanted April." Helen Lederer - You might remember her from "The Young Ones" as the annoying bank clerk who kept saying "Good morning, sir" while Rik was trying to rob her, but she has also appeared in "Bottom," as one of Patsy's co-workers on "Ab Fab," and has also worked the stand-up circuit. Maureen Lipmann - Star of "Agony," "Agony Again," and those infamous ads for British telecom so beloved by Ben Elton. Joanna Lumley - Not normally known for being a laugh riot, Lumley stunned everyone with her comedic abilities as that boozing, coke-snortin Pats on "Ab Fab." Lise Mayer - Co-author of "The Young Ones," "The Young Ones Bachelor Boys Book" and the ex-girlfriend of Rik Mayall. (Last I heard she was involved with Angus Deayton). She also gets points for helping Denis Leary with his "No Cure For Cancer" and for helping out behind-the-scenes with the stand-up series "London Underground." Doon McKichan - Another talented female from the "Knowing You, Knowing You," "The Day Today," and "On The Hour" gang. Pauline Melville - One of the early pioneers of alternative comedy, she appeared in several episodes of "The Young Ones" as Vyv's oh-so-classy mum. She also co-wrote and starred with Alexei Sayle in the Comic Strip film "Didn't You Kill My Brother?" Caroline Quentin - One of the world's luckiest ladies, in my opinion. Paul Merton proposed to her under the statue of Eros in Picadilly Square and not only does she have him but a blossoming career as well. A frequent performer at "The Comedy Store" she plays Dorothy on "Men Behaving Badly." Pauline Quirke - Co-star of the popular Marks/Gran sitcom "Birds Of A Feather," about two sisters trying to cope with life (and their annoying neighbour Dorian) while their husbands are in jail. Miranda Richardson - Well-respected for her dramatic talents in such films as "The Crying Game" and "Tom and Viv," Richardson will always be remembered most vividly by me at least as the spoiled Queen in "Blackadder II" and also as the new mother from hell who visits Edina on "Ab Fab." She also did a good turn as the host of the American "Saturday Night Live" and is one of those rare talents who can do both comedy and drama. Linda Robson - The other half of the team who played sisters Tracey and Sharon on "Birds Of A Feather." Patricia Routeledge - Another sitcom legend, Routledge is best known for "Keeping Up Appearances." Jennifer Saunders - She was the creative energy behind "Ab Fab," the Saunders half of "French and Saunders," and even took the time to have three kids. PHEW! Julia Sawalha - "Saffie" on "Ab Fab" and the object of seriously lustful thoughts by some of the blokes on alt.comedy.british. She also appeared in "The Press Gang" and the recent "Faith In The Future." Prunella Scales - She's done an enormous amount of wonderful work but there's only one word necessary here: "BASIL!" Pamela Stephenson - She was the blonde sexpot of "Not The Nine O'Clock News" and also snagged a long-time companion in Billy Connolly as well as a brief gig on "Saturday Night Live." In my opinion, this is one lady whose immense talents still remain unexplored to a large extent. Her literary claim to fame is an amusing book she authored entitled "How To Be A Complete Bitch." Mollie Sudgen - Mrs. Slocombe's pussy and tinted hair will be forever embedded in the hearts of "AYBS?" fans everywhere thanks to the talent of Mollie Sudgen. Emma Thompson - She bounced back from a bad series called "Emma" to become an Academy Award winning actress. Despite that, I don't think she'll ever do better than her classic performance as "Miss Money-Sterling" on the episode of "The Young Ones" entitled "Bambi." She was the upper-class twit who said "I've got a Porsche." Also great in "The Tall Guy" with Jeff Goldblum. Sandi Toksvig - Short, Danish, and a great contestant every time she shows up on "Whose Line Is It Anyway?" Also, she's apparently the owner of some very famous knees. :D Tracey Ullman - Multi-talented performer who also put out a couple of decent pop records and got Paul McCartney to appear in a video with her. She began as one of the "Three Of A Kind" and before heading off to seek fame and fortune in America she appeared with French and Saunders in "Girls On Top." Her American TV series "The Tracey Ullman Show" garnered lots of critical raves and awards and she has also appeared in films such as "Plenty." Julie Walters - Engaging actress and sometime sidekick to Victoria Wood. Walters was terrific as "sexual entrepreneur" Cynthia Paine in the Terry Jones directed "Personal Services" and stole the heart of Michael Caine in "Educating Rita." Ruby Wax - Once again, an American who has made a home and career in the UK. She's worked with French and Saunders in "Girls On Top," hosted her own shows, and served as script editor of "Ab Fab." June Whitfield - From "Terry and June" to Edina's lovably spacey Mom on "Ab Fab" she's an endearing treasure. Barbara Windsor - The effervescent bombshell from the long running series of "Carry On" films. Victoria Wood - Writer, performer, creator of such sketch gems as "Acorn Antiques." Her one woman shows consistently sell out and she has also published several books including "Barmy" and "It's Up To You, Porky!" ### "The A-Z of Women in British Comedy" is posted monthly to alt.comedy.british and rec.arts.tv.uk.comedy. You can download this document via anonymous ftp at ftp.cathouse.org. The directory path is: /pub/cathouse/british.humour/a-z.women.in.comedy "The A-Z of Women in British Comedy" (c) 1995 by Michelle Street. Send comments to . ________________________________________________________________ BD RECOMMENDS ============= Capsule reviews on radio programs, television, and stage. THUMB SIDEWAYS Feature Review: "The Thin Blue Line" 8:30 PM Mondays BBC 1 Starring Rowan Atkinson. "Special forces cannot operate without intelligence!" Raised eyebrow. "It seemed to be doing okay so far..." Laugh track. This is about as hilarious as "The Thin Blue Line" gets, although the episodes have been improving minimally as the series has progressed. Watching the talented Rowan Atkinson plod through the dire script is a strangely intriguing experience: you're rooting for him, admiring the way he deals the mediocre lines, and cheering for him when he does get the occasional "Blackadder"-worthy line. Yes, this Elton/Atkinson comedy will undoubtedly be judged harshly because it is *not* Blackadder set in a police station. But even on it's own merits, this recycled joke-factory (most involving the word "bowels") does not warrant more than a "thumb sideways." Catch it if you've nothing else to do. Better yet, download the Blackadder scripts and read them instead. THUMB UP "Coogan's Run" 9:30 PM Fridays BBC2 Starring Steve Coogan. Steve Coogan, wary of being branded forever as "Alan Partridge," has decided to use "Coogan's Run" as a showcase for his talents by having each episode focus on one of the inhabitants of the fictional Lancashire town Ottle. Unfortunately, this was at the expense of a good plot in some episodes ("Death of a Salesman" with "Gareth Cheeseman"). All the episodes have intriguing direction and last week's installment, set in 1960 and centering on DIY expert "Ernest Moss," is one I'll keep on videotape. By taking chances and avoiding pigeon-holing himself into one character, Coogan is insuring his popularity for years to come. THUMB SIDEWAYS "Chef!" 10:20 PM Mondays BBC1 Starring Lenny Henry. It's one of the few comedies on British television featuring blacks. What's it like? Well, it's Lenny Henry yelling at people. And he does do it well, but in the end, this is a middle-of-the-road comedy in which the laughs are few and far between. Writer Peter Tilbury just isn't infusing "Chef!" with any... *jokes*. Lenny Henry is funny, he has fleshed out a great character, but c'mon, Lenny: we *know* you're better than this! THUMB UP "The Brittas Empire" 8:30 PM Thursdays BBC1 Starring Chris Barrie, Julia St. John, Tim Marriott, Russell Porter, Jill Greenacre, Mike Burns, Judy Flynn, Harriet Thorpe, Pippa Haywood. Some people really hate this program. The authority figure ("Mr. Brittas," Manager of the Whitbury Leisure Centre) is an utter prat and the characters tolerate him because either they have to (assistant manager "Laura"), they are neurotic/"hysterical" women ("Carole," "Helen") or because they are marginalized members of society (walking cold-sore "Colin," homosexuals "Gavin" and "Tim"). It's been running for seven or eight series, though, and the ideas are running thin. Still funny, but heading out to pasture... THUMB DOWN "Faith in the Future" 8:30 PM Fridays ITV/LWT Something you watch when you come home from work and are too tired to change the channel. THUMB UP "Clive Anderson Talks Back" 10:30 Fridays Channel 4 Clive Anderson is the winner of this year's "Ben Elton Motormouth" award. Usually his guests have a tough time with his direct approach (Clive is not afraid to ask the awkward questions), and when guests do give him a bit of guff about Clive's mile-a-minute-thought-a-second approach, the audience laughs appreciatively. Sharp, very funny and the closest thing to David Letterman in the UK. Now, if he could only get a band... WOMEN IN BRITISH COMEDY: WRITE TO YOUR FAVORITE COMEDIAN! The following are the addresses of the agents who handle some of the movers and the shakers in British comedy. Composing a clear and well-written letter, as well as including a self-addressed stamped envelope, will greatly increase your chances of hearing back from your favorite star. LESLIE ASH c/o Hamper-Neafsey Associates 4 Great Queen Street London WC2B 5DG JUDI DENCH c/o Julian Belfrage Associates 68 St. James' Street London SW1A 1LE DAWN FRENCH c/o Peters Fraser & Dunlop Fifth Floor The Chambers Chelsea Harbour Lots Road London SW10 OXF JANE HORROCKS c/o Peters Fraser & Dunlop Fifth Floor The Chambers Chelsea Harbour Lots Road London SW10 OXF JOSIE LAWRENCE c/o Richard Stone Partnership 25 Whitehall London SW1A 2BS MAUREEN LIPMAN c/o Hutton Management 200 Fulham Road London SW10 9PN JOANNA LUMLEY c/o Caroline Renton 23 Crescent Lane London SW4 9PT MIRANDA RICHARDSON c/o Kerry Gardner Management 15 Kensington High Street London W8 5NP PATRICIA ROUTLEDGE c/o Marmont Management Langham House 302/308 Regent Street London W1R 5AL JENNIFER SAUNDERS c/o Peters Fraser & Dunlop Fifth Floor The Chambers Chelsea Harbour Lots Road London SW10 OXF JULIA SAWALHA c/o A.I.M. 5 Denmark St. London WC2H 8LP PRUNELLA SCALES c/o Conway Van Gelder 3rd Floor 18/21 Jermyn Street London SW1Y 6HP PAMELA STEPHENSON c/o Markham & Froggatt 4 Windmill Street London W1P 1HF MOLLIE SUGDEN c/o Joan Reddin Hazel Cottage Wheeler End Common Lane End Buckinghampshire HP14 3NL JOSEPHINE TEWSON c/o International Artists Mezzanine Floor 235 Regent Street London W1R 8AX EMMA THOMPSON c/o Lorraine Hamilton Management 19 Denmark Street London WC2H 8NA RUBY WAX c/o Peters Fraser & Dunlop Fifth Floor The Chambers Chelsea Harbour Lots Road London SW10 OXF JUNE WHITFIELD c/o April Young The Clockhouse 6 St. Catherine's Mews Milner Street London SW3 2PU VICTORIA WOOD c/o Richard Stone Partnership 25 Whitehall London SW1A 2BS Bonus Address! :) COLIN FIRTH c/o Julian Belfrage Associates 68 St. James's Street London SW1A 1LE ### AOL BLACKADDER FANS HOLD CYBER-CHAT WITH STEPHEN FRY Todd Brandon Miller (aka "Melchitt") has created a Black Adder fan club/mailing list on American Online. "We exchange sound files, banter, discuss the show and, yes, have chats. We were fortunate enough to have Stephen come chat with us." AOL staff has no participation nor endorsement in this club. For more information about the AOL Black Adder, which started only a month ago, contact Todd at . Note from Todd: "About the "chatlog": I have altered it from it's original form. Not changed what was written, but pasted multiple entries together as one, deleted some of the chat between others in the group, and tried to put questions and answers together as best I could. I did not delete anything Stephen said. I hope this shorter format still conveys the personal feelings of a chat." __________________________________________________________________ OnlineHost: Stephen11 has entered the room. GenMelchit: Stephen! Welcome... Stephen11: Hello there -- thank God I made it! Supahz: Hello Stephen Stephen11: Hello Supahz IFDA: Hi, Steven, thanks so much for joining us. Calvin1995: Hey, Stephen! Great to talk to ya! Stephen11: Where's everyone from? hi there everyone IFDA: Illinois Calvin1995: I'm from Kansas. Please don't hit me... Ataru12345: Hello, Stephen. I'm from Paramus, NJ GenMelchit: Wooster, Ohio (!) Supahz: I'm living in Memphis TN Holly5120: I'm from PA, near Philly Kmtrillian: I'm from near Pittsburgh, PA Calvin1995: I still am in Kansas...::sigh:: Stephen11: I was in Philly for July 4th -- this year, very good fun Supahz: Were you ever in Kansas, Dororthy? Stephen11: Never been to Kansas, sadly -- but someone once dropped a house on my sister... Supahz: But she wore nice shoes. Tintagel67: Letchworth, Hertfordshire Stephen11: Letchworth? How come you're aol then? Tintagel67: I'm from there, I'm in Florida at the moment Stephen11: Hang on, you can't be in Letchworth >and< Florida can you? GenMelchit: Stephen, are you living in the US or just visiting? Stephen11: Gen: I've bought an apartment here in NYC, I'll spend some time here ... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ DanielC71: Stephen11: Any interest in performing "The Real Insp. Hound" with Hugh Laurie & Rowan Atkinson? Stephen11: Dan: well, that's a thought. Rowan and Hugh and I did have a plan to do The Importance(1) last year but it fell through... I was going to be Lady Bracknell, Hugh Algernon and Rowan Jack... I know - I was >so< looking forward to the frocks ... Supahz: The only thing worse than being Lady Bracknell is NOT being Lady Bracknell Stephen11: Rowan has a new sit-com out at the moment, called The Thin Blue Line, written by Ben Elton ---------------- Calvin1995: Stephen11: coming out with any new books soon? Stephen11: Just finished a screenplay for Paramount and now have to concentrate on a new nov. by Spring ---------------- GenMelchit: Stephen - Tell us about something we may not have seen - like early roles. Commercials? Stephen11: Lots of commercials, I'm afraid. Hugh and I regularly do one for Alliance and Leicester. A & L is a Building Society in Britain, equiv of a US Building and Loan Co., I suppose. In those, I play an idiot and Hugh is the smart one, called Mostyn, who does everything right. We've been doing them for about six years now, I should think. I also did some beer commercials...For heineken Export: strapline "From your smooth talking bar steward..." ---------------- Tintagel67: My husband and I were with the Halifax but we liked the ad's anyway Stephen11: Well thank you, Tint... ---------------- DanielC71: Stephen11: Any plans for more J&W(2) and will it be released on vidtape in the US? Stephen11: I >think< it'll come out on tape, but WGBH have to finish their reruns first -- we did four series, which amounts to about 24 hours worth. We aren't doing any more, however -- ran out of original material. Didn't feel it was right to do new stories, not respectful to PGW ... Though Peter O'Toole has just done a Xhristmas Special as Lord Emsworth... ---------------- DanielC71: I think only 5 hours have been released in vid here. Supahz: Stephen11: You and Hugh are the perfect Jeeves and Wooster... wonderful! Stephen11: 5 Hours? Mm, that's prolly right. I don't know who distributes them. Who shows Bladder here BTW? Calvin1995: I had to record most of J/W off of PBS Stephen11: Calvin, I love "off of" ... so American ;-) ---------------- GenMelchit: Stephen - Can I have your autograph? Here, sign my forehead! Stephen11: Hold still, Gen -- don't frown or the signature will be wobbly -- there! ---------------- DanielC71: PBS might show Bladder, but I doubt it. Supahz: Bladder is on PBS here in TN right now. Calvin1995: I also recorded your host segments too Stephen11: Cal: Oh those -- v. embarrassing having to be Alastair Cook ... DanielC71: Why did Bladder stop at four series? Calvin1995: I loved the host segments! Stephen11: I didn't know PBS did it, they don't in NYC Channel 13 as far as I can see... most people get the vids ---------------- Tintagel67: (..and Husband takes over..) Ben Elton (when I was last in U.K.) was just about to have "Stark" on the telly. Any chances of Hippopotamus or Liar(3) for the small screen? Stephen11: Well, we considered a sort of 60's Bladder, with Rowan as a sort of Paul macartney and me as a Brian Epstein. There would be a bald drummer called Rick -- known as Bald Rick, natch ... GenMelchit: Like "Bad News"? Stephen11: gen: not as "heavy" -- Bad News trespassed on Spinal Tap territory a little too much, IMHO ... Calvin1995: I heard the 60's rumor, too. Supahz: Edmund as a hippie?!? Kmtrillian: That sounds interesting! DanielC71: As long as Brian Epstein said: "MEEEH!!" Calvin1995: Bald Rick?! Stephen11: Well, it would use Hugh's great musical ability: also Rowan is quite good -- Ben also had the idea of a Russian Revolution movie, which John Lloyd the producer was going to direct... Stephen11: Cal: Hugh is gigging at the moment with Lenny Henry and Ade Edmondson of Young Ones ... very good band ---------------- Supahz: Stephen11: Do you remember doing "Common Pursuit"? I really enjoyed that. Stephen11: Supahz: very well. You mean the film version or the stage? The film was c-prod with WGBH and involved Tim Roth and Andrew Macarthy as the obligatory American. On stage it was Rik Mayall Supahz: I saw the film... hey, I live in Tennessee!! ---------------- GenMelchit: Stephen - How is celeb status here in US? Do people recognize you? Stephen11: Celeb status over here? Well, -ish, really. I get stopped in the street a bit -- but fortunately nothing like as mad as in the UK. People here have usually either seen J&W or the movie Peter's Friends or I.Q. -- I find it much more relaxing to walk the streets in NYC -- than London. Also Americans talk about one's "work" whereas Brits are more interested in -- private life and so on.. ---------------- DanielC71: Stephen: Do you mind slightly sycophantic fan e-mail? Stephen11: Dan: it's a lot nicer than the abusive sort! ---------------- Supahz: Steph: I guess that the exposure of your WWW page was a bit of a downer then. Stephen11: I just worry sometimes that I'm not always a conscientious replier. Sometimes too busy and huge backlogs can result. I have a web site which I had to "seal off" from mailing and forms since I was getting so many hits a day that my mail-server and access company were starting to complain. ---------------- Supahz: Steph: Any chances of making publicity photos dressed an a Hindu archer? Stephen11: Supahz: as Bill Murray would say in Grounhog Day, "Chances about 1 per cent" ... ---------------- GenMelchit: Stephen - can you hit us with your best banter? ala General Melchett? Stephen11: Gen: best banter? Hm, I always liked the "Now then! Now! Then! Now then, now then. Then! Now! Then!" - Stephen11: Also "pooing pooing the poo-poos" I suppose ... ---------------- Tintagel67: (Stealing computer back from husband) Steph, What shows do you watch when you get a chance? Stephen11: Tint: over here, Seinfeld and Larry Sanders especially. Otherwise mostly movies. They don't show Vic and Bob over here, or Alan Partiridge whom I love in England. Stephen11: Partiridge=Partridge ---------------- Calvin1995: How about Noel Edmonds, Stephen? ::giggle:: Stephen11: Cal: *strange barfing noise* Calvin1995: I know, Steph. I've seen NE! Stephen11: Mr Blobby is England's Barney, but worse DanielC71: Mr. Blobby? Sounds like a bad joke from Bladder. Supahz: Steph: Mr Blobby? Sounds like a good screen name! Tintagel67: Can you believe they were selling "Blobby's" at petrol stations?! Stephen11: Supahz: Mr Blobby is a strange plastic mauve-spotted creature who bumps into people Supahz: Steph: Sounds frightening! Stephen11: Tint: nothing could suprise me ... Stephen11: Tint: what about Alan Partridge? Seen him? DanielC71: Steph: How about a Fry & Laurie parody of Mr B? Stephen11: Dan: well, I think better to let him die, frankly... ---------------- GenMelchit: Stephen - Any theatre here in US? Stephen11: Gen: saw The Heiress and Masterclass and Company, which I loved, but no plans myself thought the first time I came to the US was to work on Me & My Girl, a musical I wrote the book for back in 84. ---------------- Holly5120: Yes, any thoughts?? [on Red Dwarf] Holly5120: Hey, I didn't ask it! I got someone else to do it. Heh heh, thanks Supahz. Stephen11: Supahz: I have a terrible confession to make: I've >never< actually seen Red Dwarf -- v. embarrassing since Rob and Doug, the authors are friends of mine. I just never managed to watch, not out of disapproval, but I've always been out whenever it's on. Calvin1995: Gasp! Holly5120: That's it, I'm outta here! Stephen11: Holly: sorry to offend you. Is Red Dwarf bitchingly good then? Holly5120: It's in-smegging-credible Stephen11: Holly: no >wonder< I haven't seen it. Smegging? Does that mean anything in circumcised-obsessed USA? DanielC71: Smegging, i.e. smegma Holly5120: Came from the show, not from US ---------------- GenMelchit: I have a vid called "The Dangerous Brothers" where Rik Mayall and Ade Edmonson apparently interrupt a Fry & Laurie sketch. That wasn't real was it? Stephen11: Gen: yes there was a Rik and Ade thing like that. It was part of a series called Saturday Live. Hugh and I did a flower arranging dance and Rick and Ade burst in as the Dangerous Brothers ---------------- Tintagel67: Stephen, Do you still write for The Gaurdian? Stephen11: Tint: It's the Telegraph I used to write for. Did an article about the net for them the other day but don't plan to do anything regular. ---------------- Calvin1995: I loved Paperweight, BTW... Stephen11: Cal: thanks ---------------- Supahz: Steph: Didn't you know Emma Thompson at university? Any stories? Stephen11: Supahz: yes, she introduced me to Hugh in fact. Stories? Well, there was the time she shaved her... Supahz: Steph: Shaved her WHAT? Stephen11: ... head and we were in the same seminar group on The Winter's Tale and took her hat off to make a point and caused the professor to get terribly upset. She was quite wacky as a girl. I henna-ed my hair at the same time -- strange days. ---------------- DanielC71: Steph: The sketch in F&L where Hugh takes a spill backwards on a chair... Was that planned? Stephen11: Gen: the chair tilting was planned I'm sorry to say. Glad you thought it wasn't though... DanielC71: Steph: It was me who asked about the chair... :) The last half of that sketch seemed to be improv[is]ed. It fooled me & my wife! Stephen11: Dan: sorry -- glad you were fooled. Where did you see it. Over here? What channel? Bravo? Stephen11: One never knows where things are shown. DanielC71: Steph: The only US tape of F&L. Stephen11: Dan: Ah -- we shall have to do something about that. DanielC71: Steph: Please!! :) DanielC71: Steph: Tell you what. Get a PAL to NSTC convertor & we'll pay you $20 per bootleg. Better than royalties! :) ---------------- Supahz: Steph: Do you recall any interesting stories from Bladder that you'd like to share? Stephen11: Supahz: well, at the risk of sounding boring it was all too hard work to lead to much rich anecdotage. there was the title sequence filming of course ... The original idea was that Tim Macinerney (Darling) and I should take the salute on horseback. When we arrived at Colchester barracks to film, I found I was given the Colonel's horse ... About four hundred hands high, jet black and severaly ungelded. His name was "Thunderbolt" which should have warned me .. He was fine at first, but as soon as the band started up with the British Grenadiers which then turned into the Bladder theme tune, he shied like a startled mustang and threatened to unseat me. Hugh and Rowan laughed so much at my discomfiture that the filming proved impossible ... Supahz: Marjorie's fallen off Thunderbolt! Stephen11: Supahz: 10 points for spotting the reference ! ---------------- DanielC71: Steph: Bladder looked like incredible fun. How difficult was to act in (besides Thunderbolt)? Stephen11: It was wonderful really; the main trouble was that the scripts were changed all the time until the last moment. John Lloyd, Hugh and I in particualr would rewrite until the final moments we endlessly had "epithet moments" as we called them. The kind of jokes which started with "It's about as -- as a --" Sticky the stick insect, that kind of thing, asthamtic ants with particualrly heavy shopping, all those sort of jokes. Somehow there was never enough time to get them absolutely right DanielC71: There were a lot of those in Bladder 4. DanielC71: Hilarious! Stephen11: hundreds! This is a big crises -- beat -- I'll go further, it's a twelve story crisis with twenty four hour porterare, fitted carpets and a huge sign on the front reading "this is a big crisis" We used to wriggle about screaming with adolescent laughter whenever we did those. But some work much better than others. I always liked "you twist and turn like a twisty turny thing" DanielC71: "Disease & deprivation stalk are land like two giant... stalking things" is my favorite. Stephen11: Then there were the very complicated word play ones Stephen11: Like Rik Mayall and the suffragette movement .. anyone remember that? Or the willing suspension of disbelief ... Calvin1995: I haven't seen that one in awhile... GenMelchit: Suffer a jet movement? Stephen11: Gen: that's the one! Stephen11: I'm not having anyone staring in disbelief at >my< willy suspension. Of course you don't call dicks willies over here. Else how could Free Willy be released? Or Bill C be called Slick Willy? DanielC71: The "willy suspension" word-play was fantatsic! ---------------- Supahz: Steph: There's probably a Brit porno called "Free Willy"! Stephen11: I was in a ... hem ... bookstore in the village the other day and saw a porn video called Peter's Friends, which gave me quite a turn ... Holly5120: Steph: Are you familiar with the poetry of Kingsley Amis? Stephen11: Holly: more so after he died sadly ... Holly5120: We read his "An Ever-fixed Mark" and it reminded me of "The Liar" Calvin1995: The Liar reminds me of Paperweight for some reason... DanielC71: Reminds of of "Paperweight" or A paperweight? Stephen11: Well, I suppose The Liar and Paperweight being both by me are a bit alike, but one's a novel and the other is lots of "stuff". It's hard to smother one's own voice... Calvin1995: Sorry, Stephen. You're gonna kill me for that cheap gag aren't you? Stephen11: Cal: not kill. Just bring up a livid bruise perhaps ... just got to go to the other room to get some cigarettes. Back in a sec ... Stephen11: AAAAAAAhhhhh -- that's better. ---------------- Stephen11: Holly: it's important to encourage the young to smoke, don't you think? DanielC71: Only if they don't watch your shows! ;) Holly5120: What else are they gonna do? Stephen11: Nothing like a natural herbal infumation ... DanielC71: Holly: A few things spring to mind... Stephen11: NYC is turning into quite a non-smoking town, which is a big change from a coupla years ago ---------------- Supahz: Stephen: I watched Bladder and Dr Who last night and dreamed of you as the Doctor. Stephen11: Supahz: I do apologise. Send me any laundry bills ... ---------------- Stephen11: Actually, have had enquiries to my agent from someone in Hollywood, Ca who is apparently doing -- What can I say... there had been talk of Rowan playing the Doctor. Dr Who again -- but they've asked just about every Englishman on the Equity list so far as I can see. Stephen11: Yes, and Eric Idle -- Supahz: And John Cleese Stephen11: All of whom would be spiffing Supahz: What next, Dudley Moore?!? Supahz: Or David Frost!!! Stephen11: I'm not sure if the time hasn't passed however. Never go back, surely. Wish people were spending as much time in thinking up new material as in rejiggin the old. Calvin1995: Someone suggested Miranda Richardson as the Doctor Holly5120: Chris Barrie! Kmtrillian: A female doctor - now that would be something! Stephen11: Miranda R! Good call. And Chris Barrie, who started life as an impressionist could prolly do it well. Supahz: But Rowan with Baldrick as a companion makes sense. Stephen11: Km: ah, DNA(4) is a good chum -- he's devoting most of his time to the net these days and giving up on books, sad to say. But I don't blame him. ---------------- Stephen11: Km trillian -- is that a Hitchikers reference? Kmtrillian: Yes, it is. ---------------- DanielC71: Steph: What beer do you drink? Stephen11: Dan: well, I like English Ales mostly. Ruddles, especially. Over here Sam Adams is quite good. Supahz: Rutles?!? DanielC71: Have you tried McEwan's Scotch Ale? Stephen11: Supahz: well Ruddles is made in Rutland, the county that inspired the Rutles. After Python, Eric Idle did this series called Rutland Weekend Television -- the point being that Rutland is the smallest county in the UK. And The Rutles was the same team doing a spoof doco. It was repeated the other day on Com Central and really holds up. Made it impossible to watch the Beatles Anthology without giggling ... ---------------- Supahz: I am a huge Python fan.... they started my interest in British Comedy. Calvin1995: Python started for me, too DanielC71: Python Primer of British Pomposity Kmtrillian: Python started it for me, too - also the HHGG books. ---------------- Stephen11: The apartment I've bought here was found for me by JC who lives here too sometimes Supahz: Wow! Calvin1995: Cool! DanielC71: Someone should have told the Beatles to shut up early in the Anth. and just play... Stephen11: He's just made a new movie and is >very< worried about it DanielC71: Tell JC hi for us! Supahz: The Wanda sequel? DanielC71: Night of the Living Wanda Stephen11: Same cast but not a sequel exactly. Stephen11: Original title: Death Fish 2 Stephen11: Now called Fierce Creatures. A lot of it takes place in and around a zoo. Mike Palin, Kevin Kline, J. Leigh Curtis, etc. Also Robert Lindsay ---------------- GenMelchit: Stephen - How about Fawty Towers? It's a favorite of mine. Stephen11: Fawlty Towers. Now you're talking. Only 12 half hours, but every one perfect. Stephen11: If only comedy were easier .. Tintagel67: Especially "The Germans" Tintagel67: "Don't mention the war" GenMelchit: Tint - You started it! ---------------- Supahz: I saw Lenny Henry's "Chef" the other night and they did a silly walk. Stephen11: Yes, Chef not too hot IMHO ... DanielC71: Steph: I agree. Calvin1995: I loved the one with Mrs. Richards (name escapes me) Holly5120: JC gets upset very well ---------------- GenMelchit: Have you seen "How to Irritate People?" Stephen11: Gen: yes, that's on video out here, I believe Stephen11: Shoelss Jo had a batting average of 356 apparently DanielC71: Except the sketch w/ JC, GC as dad, and that awful Mom.... ] kind of like a Portrait of Basil as a Young Man. ---------------- Supahz: Steph: Any fave sketches from F&L? Stephen11: Supahz: golly. Favourites? Hugh and I have a very soft spot for the Mr Dalliard ones ... also the kick-arse businessmen with Marjorie ... Supahz: Steph: Damn it to hell and back! Supahz: Damn blast and double damn! Stephen11: Damn and double damn with a side-order of damn DanielC71: "Good God, there's 7 million people out there." "Oh really, what do they want?" DanielC71: Best line in the whole sketch, among many funny lines. Stephen11: You had a wife I believe what happened to her? Henrietta. Did, he, I'm sorry to hear that. Calvin1995: I love the sketch with the sound names! Hilarious! Stephen11: Oh, the dropping of the cigarette lighter etc? YES, we enjoyed that ... Supahz: Steph: Henrietta is a great line! I also really like the "bloopers" sketch. Stephen11: Hugh is very good at being hit. ---------------- Stephen11: In Bladder the Third there was an ep where Rowan and I kept hitting him ... Supahz: When you were Wellington. DanielC71: The last ep. Stephen11: People don't realise often that the skill in screen violence comes from the receiver not the puncher DanielC71: That was the first time we heard a Melchitt bellow. Stephen11: Yes, Wellington, that's the one. Rather weird ending I recall -- lots of dead bodies -- Baaaah DanielC71: God, I love that Bellow! Supahz: And HRH saying "penguin"! Calvin1995: Bladder didn't die -- I was so surprised... DanielC71: No kidding! Stephen11: Dan: all down to smoking and asthma I fear ... ---------------- Stephen11: Eek -- it's getting on for 4:15, I have to be somewhere at 4:30, I'm afeared, as Walter Brennan would say, that I have to go in 5 -- Supahz: Steph: Thanks for the time. You're very gracious and kind. GenMelchit: Stephen - Thank you so much for coming! DanielC71: Well, Stephen, have a day! Tintagel67: Ditto Holly5120: Nice chatting with you! Calvin1995: Thanks, Stephen! It was great abusing you! Stephen11: Sheesh, don't be silly. A pleasure. I'm only sorry I let you down last week. DanielC71: It was fantastic being able to cyberspeak w/ you! IFDA: Thank you, Stephen! DanielC71: Come back and see us again, y'hear? Stephen11: Such a pleasure to talk with nice, polite, shiny-toothed, well-scrubbed Americans -- Supahz: Yes, please do! Stephen11: I'll be back (in bad Arnie to]nes) Holly5120: Well, we do our best Stephen11: Lots of love to you all, BAAAA-AAAAAAH Stephen11: XXX OnlineHost: Stephen11 has left the room. _________________________________________________ (1) "The Importance of Being Ernest" by Oscar Wilde. (2) "Jeeves and Wooster," a series based on the novels by P.G. Wodehouse. Shown throughout the U.S. on PBS. Fry was cast as "Jeeves," the butler. (3) Two novels by Mr. Fry. (4) Douglas Adams, best known for writing "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" (referred to later in the transcript as "HHGG"). ==> Many thanks to Todd Brandon Miller and John Wright for contacting "Britcomedy Digest." 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