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This information is from notes from a meeting held

by Scott Hildebrand, Mike Thorn, and Scott Gordon

on October 8, 1994 -- relating to the ongoing court

battled between Roy Schwasinger et al. and the

U.S. Government.

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This is a brief update on info. I just picked up on

regarding the aforementioned case(s) and associated

conspiracies to defraud the American public, et al.



I attended a meeting yesterday for about 5 hours,

at which Scott Hildebrand, Mike Thorn, and Scott

Gordon were present.  Most of the meeting was used

by Scott Gordon presenting an overview of the situation

and overview of how to file claims, and Mike Thorn

going into great detail regarding his involvement

in this "movement" with a lot of details and showing

of documents which PROVE their case beyond a doubt.



Most people who are familiar with this case already

via many months (seems like years now) of posting on

this subject; have the view that this whole thing

is a scam.  I myself have wavered back and forth on

that issue as various opposing points of view

presented their "facts," however I have another

advantage and that is knowing someone who knows

someone who is actually a participant in the case

work.  Hence, I decided to attend one of these

meetings for myself.  In the process I was given

copies of many documents which prove this case and

shown other circumstancial evidence which I couldn't

have a copy of because they are few in existance

and quite voluminous.  It is comforting however, to

finally have the opportunity to put my own hands

and eyes on this material, even if temporarily.



All I can now do is summarize for you my experience.

You must make up your own mind for yourself what to

do and what to belief.  I'm only passing on what I

have heard and seen.  I apologize for the choppiness

of these notes, I only have time to go through what

I have written down sequentially.  I suggest you

contact the Claims Writing organization to verify

everything for yourself.



The first thing that I recommend you do is to write

to the following and purchase a copy of their video

which provides the background.  It is quite complex,

and just the video won't give you all the info. you

need, but it might keep you up at night.  The video

is



	"Liberty In The Balance"

	Send $23.00 to:

	MOSAIC MEDIA

	c/o P.O. BOX 536

	UNION, MAINE 04862

	(207) 763-3299



Another worthwhile video is:



	"Titles of Nobility"

	Send $25.00 to:

	DAVID DODGE

	P.O. BOX 610933

	NORTH MIAMI, FLORIDA 33261



Just a few notes from "Liberty in the Balance" -- A few of the

things that were discussed:



- The Federal Reserve is fraudulent.

- Federal Citizenship is statutory slavery.



- Americans should learn how to restore themselves to

"sovereign citizen" status.

- Restore the Constitutional limits on government, etc.



- A flaw in the Constitution Art. I, Section 8, Clause 17,

allowed the purpotrators to create a new Federal government

subverting the real one (D.C.)



- The 39th and 40th Congresses after the Civil War subverted

the meaning of the Constitution to subjugate the States and

the Citizens.



- We are a Republic, not a Democracy.  In a Republic, individuals

have inalienable rights, in a Democracy, individuals are absorbed

into the group and have no rights.



- In 1791, the debates between Alex. Hamilton and Tom Jefferson,

Alex. Hamilton sponsored legislation to create a central bank to

control the economy.



- From the Civil War to 1913 a sinister plot was undertaken to

create the Federal Reserve Bank and the illegal adoption of the

16th amendment to create the income tax. -- and the use of a 

loophole in the 14th amendment to dupe the American public

into a perpetual debt.



- Did you know that your WAGES are not defined as Income, even

by the 16th amendment?  You did that yourself by volunteering

yourself.  Wages are direct compensation for YOUR LABOR, which

is not a PROFIT (as stated by the 16th amendment).  You are the

sole possessor of that element of CAPITAL which is LABOR (i.e.

your labor), you cannot be considered making a profit for that

which you already own 100%, unless of course someone else owns

your labor, in which case that would be slavery, instead they

tricked you into "voluntary servitude" which is NOT made illegal

by the (second) 13th amendment, read it carefully, and remember

lawyers read this stuff too.



- Fractional Reserve Banking.



- The I.R.S. has no authority outside of D.C. and federally owned

territories such as Guam.  But, guess what, you voluntarily contracted

yourself to the I.R.S. via the corporate United States Government

in D.C. by signing the form SS-5 to get a Social Security Number,

and/or by signing a W-4 form with an employer to authorize withholding,

and/or by signing a form 1040 to claim a refund.



- Federal Reserve is no more federal than the Federal Express.



- The 16th amend. was never legally ratified by 3/4 of the States.



- The beginning of Witholding during WWII (aka "The Victory Tax")

was how they duped our parents and grandparents into volunteering

themselves en masse. (it was also supposed to be temporary).



OK, other notes from the meeting.  I'm being necessarily terse

because I don't have much time and I don't have a scanner.



Hint - get yourself copies of Executive orders 10996 - 10999, 11000,

and 11051.  Learn something about FEMA.



Hint - Learn about using the phrase "Without prejudice UCC 1-207"

in connection with your signature whenever you sign ANYTHING and

be prepared to be able to rehearse to a judge a short paragraph

on what it means.



- Get executive orders 6073, 6102, 6111, and 6260 issued by Pres.

Roosevelt in 1933, declaring the U.S. bankrupt.



A week ago Friday, Roy Schwasinger was sentenced to 180 months in

jail.  Roy laughed at the judge for doing it, because it is exactly

what he wanted.



The Claims being filed are for a specific redress of grievances which

are about 2 pages altogether.



- Section 7806, parts A and B of Volume 2 of the 1992 Internal

Revenue Code has a statement that the entire document has no

legal effect.



- Congressman Jim Traficant of Ohio is one of the good guys in Congress.

He formerly was a Sheriff who was himself arrested for protecting a

farmer in his area from fraudulent persecution by the non-entity

banking institutions.



- H.R. 1214 along with S. 1633 created the new "Federal Banking

Commission" which makes obsolete the Federal Reserve, the FDIC,

and the RTC.  Ask you Congressperson about these.



- Take a look at House Join Resolution.  HJR 94-1035.



Regarding the infamous missing "13th amendment" I have a photocopy

of a document in front of me published by Corey & Fairbank in 1833,



"The Statutes of Ohio and of the Northwestern Territory," adopted

or enacted from 1788 to 1833 inclusive: Together with the Ordinance

of 1787; The Constitution of Ohio and of the United States, and

various public instruments and acts of Congress" -- Cincinnati, 1833.



In this document is included the "Constitution of the United States"

and in it the 13th amendment which reads:

              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	"If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim,

	receive, or retain any title of nobility or honor, or

	shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept and

	retain any present, pension, office, or emulument of

	any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince, or

	foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen

	of the United States, and shall be incapable of holding

	any office of trust or profit under them, or either of them."



If you go back to the language of 1833 and the 1820's when this

was written and ratified, you'll learn that being an "esquire"

(same as "lawyer") is a title of nobility.  How many non-citizens

do we have masquerading as legally elected public officials at this

time?



Now for specific news regarding the claims.



Scott Hildebrand said that they expect to begin paying

claims within 90 to 120 days from the end of September.



He explained that previous delays have been caused by

inaction by the Treasury Department.  He (they) believe

the schedule is much more firm now.



He also said that BEFORE claims start to be paid, they

expect to have to close all banks for about a 2 week

period in order to change over to the new money, which

is going back to the last real money this country used,

which was 1928C series.  The new money will be backed in

gold, and the claims will be paid to the recipients

in gold.



He said that when the time comes, there will be an

announcement from the White House steps, by Roy Schwasinger,

himself, and others such as the President and Secretary

of the Treasury, and a VERY high ranking member of the

U.S. Armed Forces who is backing this entire restoration

of our Constitution.



He says that the New World Order folks cannot use this

temporary "crisis" to invoke martial law and enforce it

with FEMA because FEMA is being taken out of consideration

in all this.  He says the enforcment of this is the

United States Armed Forces, whose role in this whole

affair to restore the u.S.A. has been a factor from

the beginning.



For additional contact information, contact:



	Scott Gordon

	N.E. Coordinator

	c/o 658 Prosser Hill Road

	Jamestown, New York 14701

	Without Prejudice UCC 1-207

	716-488-1661



This message is only being made anonymously because

the poster (me) does not want to engage people

one on one on this discussion.  I just don't have the

time.  Call, do your own research, and make up your

mind for yourself.





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