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 From : Brian Sorensen                      9:1992/195      Fri 19 Aug 95 08:19 
 To   : John Mudge                                                              
 Subj : Infra Red Detectors                                                     
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. . .

 LG>  walls. Comparing those claims to the BATF IR photos at Waco, where they
 LG>  didn't appear to even be discernable what it was they were picking up,
 LG>  I would guess that IR isn't all that great of a sensory device for
 LG>  specific work.

 JM> Hollywood can do some amazing stuff...I am not sure how good our IR
 JM> capabilities really are...perhaps some of the military folks can tell
 JM> us. Brian are you out there?

Yup :).  I've heard stories like that too.  Also heard we have equipment that
can hear a human heartbeat from two km away.  But I have not seen anything
that was really that neat.  We can fight at night but the equipment I have
seen is bulky and a pain in the butt.  But with miniaturization going the way
that it is, who knows???  I must point out I'm not currently in a combat unit
so my exposure to current state of the art and practice is somewhat limited.

IR is a big concern.  According to the rumor mill you can tell a person's rank
from the pin-holes of heat around the sewing of the patches.  I don't have
data to support it, and it might be a bag of BS.  But on the other hand, at
least in the AF these patches are being replaced by a velcro name plate like
the pilots wear on their flight suits.

Brian


--- Blue Wave/RA v2.12
 * Origin: Powderhorn BBS, Wash. DC, 202-562-8239 (9:1992/195)

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 From : Jim Watson                          9:1992/0        Fri 19 Aug 94 15:17 
 To   : Brian Sorensen                                                          
 Subj : Infra Red Detectors                                                     
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Brian Sorensen wrote in a message to John Mudge:

 JM> Hollywood can do some amazing stuff...I am not sure how good our IR
 JM> capabilities really are...perhaps some of the military folks can tell
 JM> us. Brian are you out there?

BS> Yup :).  I've heard stories like that too.  Also heard we
BS> have equipment that can hear a human heartbeat from two km
BS> away.  But I have not seen anything that was really that
BS> neat.  We can fight at night but the equipment I have seen
BS> is bulky and a pain in the butt.  But with miniaturization
BS> going the way that it is, who knows???  I must point out I'm
BS> not currently in a combat unit so my exposure to current
BS> state of the art and practice is somewhat limited.

There was an article in our local paper the other day about NASA tracking the
mountain gorillas in Rwanda now that those who were doing so by hand have fled.

This is being done -through- cloud cover....

BS> IR is a big concern.  According to the rumor mill you can
BS> tell a person's rank from the pin-holes of heat around the
BS> sewing of the patches.  I don't have data to support it, and
BS> it might be a bag of BS.  But on the other hand, at least in
BS> the AF these patches are being replaced by a velcro name
BS> plate like the pilots wear on their flight suits.

Makes ya wonder, don't it? -:)

--- timEd-A10c
 * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> - Where better things happen... (9:1992/0)

