The F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 46 12 Nov 2001 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are | | | FidoNet community. | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings| | | | | San Francisco, California, USA | | | ____________| | | | | / __ | Crash Netmail Articles To: | | | / / \ | Editor@1:1/23 (1-972-562-8064) | | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | Frank Vest@1:124/6308 | | \_______\(_| /_) | or E-Mail (attach) To: | | _ @/_ \ _ | fidonews@sbcglobal.net | | | | \ \\ | | | | (*) | \ ))| Editor: Frank Vest | | |__U__| / \// | Deputy-Editor: Lawrence Garvin | | ______ _//|| _\ / | | | / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | | (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Copyright 2001 by Frank L. Vest, Editor for Fidonews Globally. Table of Contents 1. [ FOOD FOR THOUGHT ] ..................................... 1 2. [ TOP STORIES ] .......................................... 2 The Fidonews at a glance ................................. 2 3. [ FIDONET REGIONAL NEWS ] ................................ 3 Region 12 election time again ............................ 3 4. [ EDITORIAL ] ............................................ 4 "From both sides now" .................................... 4 5. [ FIDONET SOFTWARE REVIEWS ] ............................. 7 FTN software used in Russia .............................. 7 6. [ OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER ] ...................... 9 18X46 .................................................... 9 7. [ ANSWERS OF THE WEEK ] .................................. 11 "What do you want in the Fidonews?" - Poll Results ....... 11 8. [ CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ] .................................. 12 Women get last word? ..................................... 12 9. [ FIDONET CLASSIFIED ADS ] ............................... 15 Rotating Ads ............................................. 15 L.O.R.D Tournament ....................................... 15 10. [ TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ] ............ 17 Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's* .......................... 17 11. [ JOE JARED'S FIDONET BY INTERNET ] ..................... 23 Fidonet-related sites .................................... 23 12. [ SPECIAL INTEREST ] .................................... 29 Bad Bunny Moments in Dakota .............................. 29 Nodelist Stats ........................................... 31 13. [ FIDONEWS INFORMATION ] ................................ 33 How to Submit an Article ................................. 33 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 34 FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 1 12 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ FOOD FOR THOUGHT ] ================================================================= Today you can go to a gas station and find the cash register open and the toilets locked. They must think toilet paper is worth more than money. --Joey Bishop ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 2 12 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ TOP STORIES ] ================================================================= The Fidonews at a glance In the "Fidonet Software Reviews" section we have an interesting article by Aleksej R. Serdyukov about what software is used in Zone 2, Region 50. You'll notice the announcement of the Region 12 RC election. This should have been in last week's Fidonews but the Editor mistook it for a regular Netmail and didn't include it. Take a trip through Dakota, U.S.A. with "Doc Logger" as he returns to give his view on some rabbits as well as U.S.A politics. Warren Bonner gives us his view on why the U.S.A is united and reminds us of where Fidonet began. The Editorial this week deals with the poll taken last week with some views from the editor on this and other things. The results of the Poll taken last week is in the "Answers of the week" section for those interested. You might want to read the "How to Submit an Article" portion of the Fidonews. Some section names have changed. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 3 12 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ FIDONET REGIONAL NEWS ] ================================================================= Region 12 election time again By: Lesley-Dee Dylan 1:250/201 Region 12 has just entered into its nomination period in our annual election for an official shield for the region's members when they take on the rest of zone 1. We have gotten past the point of appointing a returning officer (for the Americans, elections officer), to run the election, and we are now into the time period where the region's hotheads get out their shotguns and try to aim them at each others' heads to try to coerce the acceptance of a nomination. The best defence seems to be the threat of a cross-nomination. And Darrell Salter just brought out the biggest shotgun of all "if one of you doesn't accept nomination soon, we might end up with Joe Delahaye as RC." By now, Bob Seaborn will have acquired a new illicit feed of our precious regional echo, REG12, and will be providing it to Janis Kracht and Dallas Hinton. If you want to watch the entertainment, you should areafix it from one of the three. Your feed will last until Dallas can't hold back anymore and starts posting again. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 4 12 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ EDITORIAL ] ================================================================= "From both sides now" The title is part of a song that I remember. Can't say who wrote it, sang it or that those are important. This week we have two conflicting views expressed. One by Doc Logger who, being tranquilized, managed to grace us with an article. The other by Warren Bonner, a regular columnist in the Fidonews. One seems to think that the events regarding the WTC attack has brought the U.S.A. together and that the president is doing fine. The other seems to think that the government of the U.S. is just getting a "wake up" and should have woke up long ago. Either way, both are of limited interest to a select group and neither are really Fidonet related in strict terms. (pardon my take off, Doc) Rolla da flick, everyone. As I climb into my "time capsule" and press the "red button" (Oh no! Not the "RED BUTTON!!), I'm whisked back through the Fidonews. Years fall away. Editors and articles from the past appear to me in visions of days gone by. =-=-=-= It's 1985. fido201.nws "The new years first newsletter ... more and more articles and ads every week. One complaint from a few people: not too much of interest to general users, so far all articles have been from Sysops. While that is fine, maybe encourage a few users to send articles? FidoNews is NOT only for sysops, it is for anyone." =-=-=-= It's 1986. fido304.nws "Disclaimer or don't-blame-us: The contents of the articles contained here are not our responsibility, nor do we necessarily agree with them; everything here is subject to debate. We publish EVERYTHING received." =-=-=-= It's 1996. Fido1303.nws "There were no articles submited this week." -=-=-=- FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 5 12 Nov 2001 It's 2001. fnews1844.nws "I respect the tradition of FidoNews editors to publish anything not in violation of the (NA?) law. Maybe it is time however to review this policy. Maybe it is time to define the topic of FidoNews and restrict articles to those that are on topic." -=-=-=- It's Nov. 12, 2001 Whew! What a trip!! It's good to be home again. I think. :/ Yes, I'm picking editions and all that other "unfair" stuff. So what?? Go write a rebuttal. The gist (is that a word?) is that in the examples given, it's thought that the Fidonews is not just for Sysops. Then we go back to the "publish anything" syndrome. Then there are no articles. The current thing is that articles should be about Fidonet only. No special interest groups. Really!! Try to please people and what do ya get?!? Ah well. We have the answers to last week's "Question of the week" poll. I guess that's not Fidonet related either, but at least it asked for an opinion about the Fidonews. Whatever shall we do?? The poll seems to indicate that all sections are liked in general... Well, except for the "Comix in Ascii" "Recipes" and "Poet's Corner", and even they made high marks on the wall when they jumped. I'm not being ungrateful for your replies, dear reader. In fact, I am impressed with the turn out. My expectation was to get a couple of responses and that would be it. We may try this again sometime. Thanks to all of you who replied! What did this little trip into the past and last week's poll prove? Nothing that we in Fidonet didn't already know. A poll will generally have about an equal percentage of votes no matter how many questions are asked. IOW, everybody likes a different part of some of it. There will be a small percent of the total possible represented in the poll. IOW, Some will try to make a difference while others sit back and watch them beat their heads against the wall... then complain about the whole thing while doing nothing. No matter what you do, somebody won't like it. IOW, You can't please all the people all the time... and some won't be pleased anytime. I'm sure that there are other things that were proved by last week's poll too. Oh well. FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 6 12 Nov 2001 As I read and read and read in the Fidonews echo, I watch for articles coming in via Netmail or E-mail. I hope for an article about Fidonet. I get articles about other things. :( I note that in past editions this was also the case. In some issues, there were no articles. In others there were articles about this or that Zone, Region or Net. Some were about happenings other than Fidonet and a few, very few, were of interest to all. I've read thoughts of how the Fidonews is for users as well as Sysops, should be only about Fidonet, can have any subject, should be of general interest and other variations. What I see in the past is what I see in the present. Lots of talk, complaints, ideas, demands and little in the way of action. A new Fidonews Editor comes around with ideas and dreams of making the Fidonews a great place. S/he is met with all of the aforementioned complaints and little help. If the "Snooze" is empty, it's boring. If it's full of articles by a couple of people with one view, it's one sided and boring. If the editor changes anything, it's wrong, one sided and boring. To tell the truth, I find the Fidonews boring, but for a different reason. I read the articles over and over while formatting and putting the Fidonews together. :-) Of all that I've mentioned in this writing, there is one thing that worries me. The threats I've read and received. Threats such as; `I'll see what I can do.' `I may just write an article!' `It's almost finished.' `I thought about writing an article!' ` Maybe next week I can get something to you.' If all these threats are carried out, Whew!! We might have a Fidonews that had something in it. Wouldn't that be awful?? :) So! What's the answer?? Same as it was to start with. The Fidonews is what _YOU_ make of it. I hope that all of you have a great Fidonet day, a better Fidonet tomorrow and are pleased once in your life. Regards, Frank Vest - Editor, Fidonews ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 7 12 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ FIDONET SOFTWARE REVIEWS ] ================================================================= What FTN software is used in Z2 R50? by Aleksej R. Serdyukov 2:5020/1973.20 Now I want to tell you what software Russians (and ex-USSR) use for their FidoNet and BBS purposes. At first I'll tell what software I use... It is: Tosser: FastEcho v1.46.1 by Software Technik Burchhardt Fileechos: AllFix v5.13 build 4 by Harms Software Eng. Editor: GoldED+/386 1.1.5-20011017 (c) Odinn Sorensen->Alexander S. Aganichev (my first was the same but 1.0.0) Mailer: KittenMail v0.11.1f2 W32 by Andrew Lopatin (at start of my Fido-life I used T-Mail 2606.DOS and then T-Mail 2607.DOS) BBS: MushroomBBS v1.0.0.3 by virtual booster //ScF, based on Tornado BBS v1.71alpha23 by Konstantin Klyagin->Alexey Kljatow FOSSIL driver: ADF v1.50 Operating system: MS Windows 98SE (4.10.2222), sometimes I use DOS v7.10 from it but my modem doesn't work then. I also use Bink-style outbound and JAM message base. So, that's what I use. And, about others ;) FastEcho and ParToss (Parma Tosser) are the most used tossers in XSU (ex-USSR). Then JustTosser and HPT go. Some people also use GEcho and CrashMail, Echomail, XMail, QEcho... The previous sentence is made of editors I have never seen on BBSs etc. Fileecho soft: AllFix is standard. Some people say it is hard work to set it up, so they are using KingFix, DM Tic, T-Fix, maybe, FileFix and Filin. Some people use none :) Mailers: Oh, isn't it much interesting thing about software? ;) Maybe, but I will try to tell it. The most popular mailer is T-Mail by Andy Elkin. The last version is 2607, but it is rumoured that AE is going to release a 2608 or even 2700. There is a new mailer called KittenMail or "Kitten" for short. It has some good features and does not support AMA (and this is good!). FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 8 12 Nov 2001 But unlike the T-Mail, Kitten can not work with IP (afaik). AMA is attach outbound fully supported by T-Mail. I didn't like many attaches in my netmail and I set up the BSO. All who moves from AMA to BSO says "Why others use the AMA? :-\". Some people use Argus, Radius and other mailers but I have not seen them. Message editors: The most popular FTN-editor not only in Russia is GoldED. Its original author was Odinn Sorensen and then its sources was edited by Jacobo Tario, Alexander S. Aganichev and many others. I use it with dark color settings - "white"(7) color on black and I like this as I hate Norton Commander's colors :) But there are also used: Taimyr (It is GUI. I don't like GUI. How can FTN editor be GUI?) Fregate (TurboVision.. TV is good but it looks like a parody to the DOS Navigator and it could be a file manager, not editor.. And the W32 version is slow) There are also QDED, MADMED... Alternate complement systems: Many people use TerMail from Terminate ("The Final Terminal"), and may be it is not bad, for points. But some people use F.I.P.S. point system, and it is GUI and for W32 only!!! Recently someone asked how to make work the Tornado BBS under FIPS! :-( ) BBS software: Used BBS soft are Tornado BBS, Maximus CBCS and RemoteAccess BBS. There is a new one - Mystic BBS. But I don't remember other BBS software used here because it is not so needed. :) So, thanks for your attention, and good bye :) ==> Deleter //ScF, 2:5020/1973.20@FidoNet 10.11.2001 13:00 (MSW) <=== ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 9 12 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER ] ================================================================= 18X46 wdbonner@pacbell.net Some folks may think this column is not Fidonet worthy, but let me remind you that Fidonet was concieved and founded in America, and America is Fidonet's original sponsor. Therefore it is in Fidonet's interest to keep abreast of events and thoughts. Here's mine for this week... Why is the USA-merica so united? They speak all the languages of the world and form an astonishing mixture of mini civilizations in every city in the land. Some of them are nearly extinct. Some of them agree with everything proposed about anything, others are refractory about everything, and still others are apathetic. Still, the American tragedy turned three hundred million people into a hand over the heart salute to the brave who gave their lives trying to save the 5000+ innocent men, women and children of all ethnic groups murdered by the terrorists at the NYC WTC. This evening Our President addressed all Americans and put his arm around each of us in his speech, explaining ways we can pull together even tighter to defend our precious freedom and for that matter the freedom of all of the free world. I for one applaud his encouragement to "extend our hands personally" to help each other and our country, and all of our allies. It is the collective effort of all that keeps us free to prosper and worship in whatever faith we choose. The evil doers that plot and plan our demise failed in their attempt to cause a storm of discontent at our government as intended. No one rushed to accuse the President, his staff, the army, the FBI, or the CIA, that they were doing a lousy job. No one rushed to empty their bank accounts. They all volunteered to donate blood and to give a helping hand. After the first moments of panic, they raised the flag on the smoking ruins, just as was done on Iwo Jima, and put Old Glory up on their homes, on T-shirts, caps and automobiles. They placed flags on buildings and trucks and trains and in every place and on every thing! And on every occasion they started singing our traditional song: "God Bless America!". Our President has earned our love and respect by bringing all of the freedom loving nations together as one to eradicate the TERRORIST. His staff working with the media brought the charity concert broadcast on many TV channels. The Stars came out and performed with all their heart and souls. Ol' Clint Eastwood, Ol' Willie Nelson, Robert de Niro, Sweet Julia Roberts, Cassius Clay-Mohammad Ali, Jack Nicholson, Bruce Springsteen, Sylvester Rambo Stalone, James Wood, and many others whom no film director or producers could ever bring together at one time. The spirit of American's freedom was turned up in everyone's solidarity of purpose to defend Freedom throughout the world. What you could hear was the heavy artillery of the American soul. Freedom FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 10 12 Nov 2001 sounds were being heard in a great crescendo at this charity concert. I don't know how it happened that all this obsessive singing of America didn't sound nationalist, or ostentatious! I guess it is because we Americans "Do it with love in our hearts for all mankind". What on earth can unite the Americans in such a way? Their land? Their history? Their economic power? Their money? When you find the answer, after humming the songs, there can be only one conclusion: Only individual freedom and freedom for all can work such miracles! ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 11 12 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ ANSWERS OF THE WEEK ] ================================================================= "What do you want in the Fidonews?" - Poll Results By Frank Vest - Editor 1:124/6308.1 fidonews@sbcglobal.net Below are the results of the poll taken last week. Thanks to all who participated. (13) [ Food for Thought ] (14) [ Headline News ] (12) [ Top Stories ] (15) [ From the *Cs ] (13) [ Regional News ] (14) [ Net News ] (13) [ Retractions ] (14) [ General Articles ] (14) [ Editorial ] (13) [ Guest Editorial ] (14) [ Fidonet Current Events ] (14) [ Rebuttals to Previous Articles ] (13) [ Interviews ] (13) [ Fidonet Software Reviews ] (13) [ Fidonet Web Page Reviews ] (15) [ Fidonet Notices ] (14) [ Getting Technical ] (13) [ Question of the week ] (13) [ Answers of the week ] (13) [ Humor in a Fido Vein ] (11) [ Comix in Ascii ] (11) [ Recipes ] (11) [ Poet's Corner ] (13) [ Clean Humor & Jokes ] (13) [ Classified Ads ] (12) [ Calendar ] (14) [ Corrections ] (13) [ Special Interest ] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 12 12 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ] ================================================================= Women get last word? From: Warren Bonner Quotations from women about women . The hardest years in life are those between ten and seventy. -Helen Hayes (at 73) I refuse to think of them as chin hairs. I think of them as stray eyebrows. -Janette Barber- Whoever thought up the word "Mammogram"? Every time I hear it, I think I'm supposed to put my breast in an envelope and send it to someone. -Jan King- A male gynecologist is like an auto mechanic who never owned a car. -Carrie Snow- Laugh and the world laughs with you. Cry and you cry with your girlfriends. -Laurie Kuslansky- My second favorite household chore is ironing. My first being hitting my head on the top bunk bed until I faint. -Erma Bombeck- Old age ain't no place for sissies. -Bette Davis- A man's got to do what a man's got to do. A woman must do what he can't. -Rhonda Hansome- The phrase "working mother" is redundant. -Jane Sellman- Every time I close the door on reality it comes in through the windows. -Jennifer Unlimited- Whatever women must do they must do twice as well as men to be thought half as good. Luckily, this is not difficult. -Charlotte Whitton- Thirty-five is when you finally get your head together and your body starts falling apart. -Caryn Leschen- I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once. -Jennifer Unlimited- FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 13 12 Nov 2001 If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning. -Catherine Aird- When I was young, I was put in a school for retarded kids for two years before they realized I actually had a hearing loss. And they called ME slow! -Kathy Buckley- I'm not offended by all the dumb blonde jokes because I know I'm not dumb . . and I'm also not blonde. -Dolly Parton- You see a lot of smart guys with dumb women, but you hardly ever see a smart woman with a dumb guy. -Erica Jong- If high heels were so wonderful, men would still be wearing them. -Sue Grafton- I'm not going to vacuum 'til Sears makes one you can ride on. -Roseanne Barr- I think---therefore I'm single. -Lizz Winstead- When women are depressed they either eat or go shopping. Men invade another country. -Elayne Boosler- Behind every successful man is a surprised woman. -Maryon Pearson In politics, if you want anything said, ask a man--if you want anything done, ask a woman. -Margaret Thatcher- I have yet to hear a man ask for advice on how to combine marriage and a career. -Gloria Steinem- I never married, because there was no need. I have three pets at home which answer the same purpose as a husband. I have a dog that growls every morning, a parrot that swears all afternoon, and a cat that comes home late every night. -Marie Corelli- If men can run the world, why can't they stop wearing neckties? How intelligent is it to start the day by tying a noose around your neck? -Linda Ellerbee- I am a marvelous housekeeper. Every time I leave a man I keep his house. -Zsa Zsa Gabor- Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission. FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 14 12 Nov 2001 -Eleanor Roosevelt- ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 15 12 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ FIDONET CLASSIFIED ADS ] ================================================================= Rotating ads As a service of the Fidonews, I am prepared to offer rotating ads for those that provide services to Fidonet such as Mail Hubs, Gateways, Fidonet via Internet, Fidonet software, Backbone services and such. How this works: 1. Create an ad following the guidelines for the Fidonews. 2. Keep it short and to the point. 3. Put contact and other needed information in the ad. 4. Send it to Frank Vest as a file attach. A. E-Mail "flv@sbcglobal.net B. Netmail "Frank Vest - 1:124/6308 I will put the ad in a pool and use a program each week to automatically rotate the ads into the Fidonews. Please! If you stop offering service or need to change your ad, contact me! This is very important to keep the ads current. I'm doing this on a trial basis. If it gets to be a problem, I will have to discontinue the service. I can make no promise of how often your ad will be in the Fidonews. This will depend on how many ads I have to rotate through. As always in Fidonet, I make no guaranties. :) Regards, Frank Vest - Fidonews Editor ----------------------------------------------------------------- L.O.R.D Tournament By SHANNON TALLEY 1:275/311 November 11, 2001 -=-=- Come one -=-=- Come All -=-= To the Thieves -=-=- To the warriors -=-=- To the wizards who dabble in magic! -=-= A call to arms has begun!! -=-= FidoTel proudly sponsors a "NEW" Legend of the Red Dragon Tournament! The tournament will last "14 days". It began at 0900 (EST) on Sunday, 18 November 2001. The Winner of the tournament will receive a beautiful dragon statue!! Some come on, log in, and "Enjoy!!" FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 16 12 Nov 2001 Click http://www.fidotel.com/public/lord for details and pictures of the prize! http://www.fidotel.com/public/lord http://www.fidotel.com telnet://telnet.fidotel.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 17 12 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ] ================================================================= *Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's* -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- BBS Software -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- BBBS Home Page b@bbbs.net http://www.bbbs.net/ ELEBBS- The Elevator Software Productions Web Page elebbs@elebbs.com http://www.elebbs.com/ Hermes II Project (Mac) info@HermesII.org http://www.hermesii.org/ Maximus BBS Support Page (Non Official) sales@lainus.com http://www.vector11.com/maximus/ MBSE BBS Michiel Broek + development team mbroek@users.sourceforge.net http://mbse.sourceforge.net 2:2802/2 Michiel Broek. Mystic BBS http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/ Nexus Bulletin Board System groberts@nexusbbs.net http://www.nexusbbs.net/ Proboard Telegrafix Communications Inc. info@telegrafix.com 540-678-4050 http://www.telegrafix.com RemoteAccess Central Bruce Morse bfmorse@rapro.com http://www.rapro.com/ Searchlight Telegrafix Communications Inc. info@telegrafix.com 540-678-4050 http://www.telegrafix.com Spitfire BBS FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 18 12 Nov 2001 Buffalo Creek Software MDWoltz@AOL.COM http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/index.html Synchronet BBS sysop@vert.synchro.net http://www.synchro.net Telegard BBS support@telegard.net http://www.telegard.net/ Wildcat Interactive Net Server (BBS) Santronics Inc. sales@santronics.com (305)248-3204 http://www.santronics.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Door Software -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bentstone Capabilities Group info@stonebenders.com http://www.srupc.com/mall Jibben Software scott@jibben.com http://www.jibbensoftware.com/ JNS Software Door Games Rusty Johnson rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com 304-733-0113 http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/ Legend Of The Red Dragon Reborn (L.O.R.D.) http://www.lordlegacy.org/ PC Pursuits brucep@pop.kis.net (301)240-6653 http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm S and T Software Mark Bappe mark.bappe@bozax.iainc.net (770)788-6843 http://bozax.iainc.net/public/ Shinning Star BBS Doors nannette@shiningstar.net http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/ Sunrise Door Software Al Lawerence al@sunrisedoors.com FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 19 12 Nov 2001 (404)256-9518 http://www.sunrisedoors.com/ The Brainex System info@brainex.com http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ Trade Wars Door Game jpritch@eisonline.com http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/ 1:299/110 Vagabond Software Bryan Turner vagabond@darktech.org http://vagabond.virtualave.net/ 1:124/7013 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mail Tossers -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- FMail Support wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org http://fmail.nl.eu.org/ 2:280/1076 Squish Tosser http://www.lanius.com/squish.htm -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mailer Software -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Argus RITLABS argus@ritlabs.com 373-2-246889 http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84 FrontDoor, FrontDoor APX, Mailer/Point Software Definite Solutions sales@defsol.se http://www.defsol.se/ BeeMail Home Page http://beemail.gexonline.net Stephen Proffit 1:211/405 BinkleyTerm XE Frontend Mailer Software http://btxe.sourceforge.net/ Plantinum Express for Wildcat Santronics Inc. sales@santronics.com (305)248-3204 FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 20 12 Nov 2001 http://www.santronics.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Fidonet via Internet Software -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Argus RITLABS argus@ritlabs.com 373-2-246889 http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84 BinkD maloff@corbina.net http://2f.ru/binkd/ Fidogate Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net http://www.fidogate.org/ Fidonet to Internet Mailer Bo Bendtsen sales@terminate.com http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm GiGo Software http://www.gigo.com/ Internet Rex cruden@cs.ualberta.ca http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/ Tmail (Russian /w English DL) http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm TransX Multiboard Communications Inc. support@multiboard.com http://www.multiboard.com/software/transx.html 1:2401/305 TransNet transnet@ressl.com.ar http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/ Watergate ramon@sbbs.se http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Point Software -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Definite Solutions FrontDoor APX http://www.defsol.se/ JetSys - Home of JetMail, JetStat and other Atari Fidonet utilities FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 21 12 Nov 2001 http://www.jetsys.de/ APoint http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm (Author) http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Author) CrossPoint ("Original" version) http://www.crosspoint.de http://www.apoint-mail.de CrossPoint (OpenXP Projekt) http://www.openxp.com (English) http://www.openxp.de (German) CrossPoint (XP2 Team) http://www.xp2.de WinPoint95 http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english The OpenXP CrossPoint Projekt http://www.happyarts.de/xp Terminate Terminal http://www.terminate.com PPoint-FTS compatible E-Mail System http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Other Software, Utillities and such -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- F-Prot Anti-Virus Home Page http://www.complex.is/cgi-bin/home_pager BGFAX Home Page http://blkbox.com/~bgfax/ SIO, Vmodem for OS/2 http://www.gwinn.com NetModem for Windows http://www.allensoftware.com Com/IP Region 11: http://www.vector11.com/region11/ Net 2410: http://www.vector11.com/net2410/ Region 13: http://www.ispaceonline.org/region13/ Net 109: http://www.thelitterbox.net/fido/net109/ Net 261: http://www.baltimorepress.com/~net261/ Net 275: http://www.ispaceonline.org/net275/ Net 267: http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/net267/ Net 275: http://www.ispaceonline.org/net275/ Region 14: http://www.ouijabrd.com/region14 Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/ Region 15: Region 16: Region 17: http://www.region17.net Net 140: http://www.nwstar.com/~net140 Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/ Region 19: http://bise.tzo.com/r19 Net 124: http://www.DallasInet.com/net124/ FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 24 12 Nov 2001 http://texoma.net/~flv Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/ Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish) Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish) Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German) http://www.was-ist-fido.de/ Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German) Region 25: Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French) http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/ Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish) REC34: http://www.fidospain.org Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/ Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English) Region 42: http://www.fido.cz Net422: http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English) Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian) Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian) Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian) Net 5028: HTTP://5028.nordnet.ru/ Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English) ?? Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian) Net 5074: http://www.n5074.z2.fidonet.net ?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian) Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org Zone 4: Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese) Region 90: Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish) Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/ Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org Region 65: http://r65.yeah.net http://www.cfido.com (Chinese) Fidonet Via Internet Hubs a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email address. The email is translated as follows firstname.lastname@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will also receive routed notice of this feature. v-email flag firstname.lastname@osirusoft.com FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 25 12 Nov 2001 | email address or Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate | | |latency| -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------ Zone 1 | | | | 10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c 10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c 18/500 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c 103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | CABLE | n/c 103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c 103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c 105/8 @ Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c 105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr 106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ??? 106/2000 | Bob Juge | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ??? | n/c 106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c 107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo. 134/11 @ Michael Grant | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX aDSL, 60 | n/c 138/146 | Marc Blakely | BinkP,FTP | ??? | n/c 140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16 142/906 | Chris Griffin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 150/220 | Dave Nemeth | UUE | ??? | n/c 153/7715 | Dallas Hinton | BinkD, FTP | CABLE | ??? 167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c 167/166 | Jesse Dooling | POP? UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c 218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c 220/10 | groberts@nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c 229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c 229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? | 229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c 249/116 | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE |ADSL,60 | n/c 250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c 261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c 280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c 323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c 360/5 | Bennie Hutto | FTP VMoT | aDSL | n/c 395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | CABLE | n/c 379/1 @ Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c 379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 393/9005 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP TX UUE VMoT| ??? | n/c 395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkP VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr 396/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c 2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c 2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c 2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c 2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo 2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c 3613/1275 | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 26 12 Nov 2001 3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c 3830/10 | Matt Bedynek |FTP, BinkD | OC3 n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 2 | 20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c 22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c 28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c 37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c 47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c 201/505 | Goran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c 203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c 211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BinkP | 8/2mb | n/c 221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c 236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c 240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c 252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c 255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c 263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c 280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c 280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c 292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k | n/c 292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | n/c 292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c 292/907 | Bart Verhaeghe | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K | n/c 292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c 301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c 332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c 333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c 335/534 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c 335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c 341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | | 341/66 | Angel Ripoll | VMoT | | 343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT | | 344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c 346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c 347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | | 348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | | 382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/558 | Vlad Hrusca | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c 406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c 423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c 465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c 469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 27 12 Nov 2001 469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c 550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c 2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c 2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c 2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c 2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c 3830/10 | Matt Bedynek | FTP, BinkP | 100Mb | n/c 5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 3 633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c 640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c 712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c 774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 4 801/161 @ Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c 902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 6 65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free 653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free 654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free 654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks * TX = TransX * NFS = Linux Networking * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer ---------------------------------------------- Fidonet oriented news servers news.osirusoft.com news.tardis.net FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 28 12 Nov 2001 Fidonet oriented chat rooms. room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 29 12 Nov 2001 ================================================================= [ SPECIAL INTEREST ] ================================================================= Bad Bunny Moments in Dakota By Doc Logger Dear Editorbeing, This article is submitted by Charles Herriot who got extraordinarily lucky with the tranquilizer gun and chained Doc Logger to the keyboard long enough to crank out this epistle. Roll da flic, Frank Dear Reverend Visage, I had to get home from San Francisco and there was no way in hell I was gonna fly. It's not the terrorists I'm worried about, it's the fear that in mid-air, somewhere over Chadron, Nebraska, the airline that I've selected will go bankrupt. How does that work? I mean, do they just shut off the engine and tell everyone that the trip is over? And the plastic smiling stewardess with Missouri drawl says what? "Ya'll mind your step now. It's a 39,000 foot drop there darlin'." So I picked up SERIOUS wheels, what with the turbo-charger, the nitro-methanol injector, and the entire Dadawa CD collection. It was a pretty uneventful trip until I landed in Dakota. I learned a number of things last night as I drove through the badlands of Dakota. (One of things I learned was how to spell "Dakota" which is probably a good thing. I had a sense that another misspelled "Dakota" would cause Julia to run screaming for a quote from a dictionary.) One of the things I learned last night is that you can't be too careful when you drive with a tubful of freshly cut carrots nestled into crushed ice. With 6,500 gigawatt coffee in your veins, you pretty much have to replace beta-carotene at enormous rates because dilated pupils cause a certain amount of sensory overload on the optic nerves. I discovered that crime is everywhere and that evil bands of jackrabbits roamed the badlands, waiting patiently for someone to drive by with a tubfull of carrots. The rabbits denied that they were rabbits of course, and came disguised as Dakota Highway Patrol police but I could sense from their twitching noses that were really rabbits. As soon as they shone their flashlights into the car, you could see their eyes widen in amazement at the mothering HUGE tub of carrots sitting in the passenger seat. (It was all perfectly legal, the tub of carrots was wearing a seatbelt.) The cop-heart isn't genetically capable of stopping a car at 2am in the morning which is loaded to the gunnels with carrots. There are places out beyond the weird curve that their cop-heart minds can't fathom. This is a mercy, because after casually mentioning that I'd been clocked at 174 mph, they plum forgot all about giving me a ticket as we stood in the ghostly moonlight and discussed the carrot comprehension problem that they were having. "Are those real carrots?" FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 30 12 Nov 2001 asked one of the patrolmen. "Sure. Try one. I don't look like the kind of person who'd be driving with synthetic carrots do I?" The officer munched on the tasty goodness of a carrot and opined that it certainly was one damned fine carrot - the real McCoy - Mother Nature's proudest tuber. "I don't guess you can grow carrots around these parts," I allowed while pointing to the arid moonscape punctuated by Janthina scrub and pin-cushion cactus. Anyway, we stood there, out in the moonlight, and discussed carrots pretty much for 20 solid minutes, and even the other officer let slip his rabbit disguise and partook of a few. As we said our goodnights and I gently ran up through all six gears to get back up to light-speed, I shouted "Hey rabbits. Don't mess with me. I'm armed with carrots and I know how to use them." I have a sense that there are still two patrolmen out there in the Dakota sagebrush arguing with each other about whether they had just stopped a guy for speeding and ended up having a whole conversation about carrots. I've been keeping score. So far, I've been pulled over 13 times and haven't actually been given a ticket for speeding yet. I've got 4 WARNINGS, 3 cute little booklets about state traffic laws, and.. check this out - a gift certificate for 6 free donuts to compensate me for the inconvenience of having been stopped. Visage, I haven't even gotten to the Chautauqua part of this message and already I can sense that your mind is having a few bad bunny moments. Take deep breaths. Think about going on a date with Madeline Albright. There, is your mind not sharply in focus? I just knew it would be. As the nightly news is filled with the usual lies from the military about their "precision" bombing and the effectiveness of their campaign in Afghanistan and I try to withhold my despair while poor George Dubya cures the economic woes by adjuring us to "go shopping." It is not that the world got any different on September 11th, it's just that the horror finally came home. The same military, the same politicians, and the same sanctimonious country stood idly by while a million Rwandans were slaughtered and they did nothing. Evil, apparently, does not exist unless it visits the World Trade Center or The Pentagon. As an observer from the frozen tundra to the north, I am largely cynical about the flag-waving rhetoric that seems to surround the latest US adventure. If it had been spawned by a call to decency as opposed to revenge it might have been easier to swallow. After a year of fruitlessly bombing the desert, the only legacy we will keep is a new and ugly approach to liberty in the US, and particularly in Canada where politicians are quick to intrude in the lives of their subjects. Warrantless searches, detention without trial, and a government whom most of us wouldn't trust further than we could throw them - these are the charming intrusions that our leaders have lined up in the name of protecting us from ourselves. I'd write more, Visage, but your secretary seems to be having some sort of crisis. She's waving a "Hubert Humphrey For President" placard at me. This is all very strange considering that it has only been a few minutes since I unleashed the rabid lemmings. As the good and decent people that we are, I think we should send her to work in a FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 31 12 Nov 2001 coven of sociologists. Regards Doc Logger Furlang Island, South Pacific ----------------------------------------------------------------- Nodelist Stats INPUT NODELIST FILE : NODELIST.313 File has a Date Stamp of : 11/8/2001 File Size (uncompressed) : 1201.98 KBytes. The Input Nodelist file has 10991 Nodes in it and a total of 14142 non-comment entries. The list has 6 Zones listed. 65 Region Coordinators listed. 498 Network Hosts listed. 751 Hubs listed. 354 DOWN Nodes listed. 892 PRIVATE Nodes listed. 585 HOLD Nodes listed. Administrative overhead = 1320 ( 12.01 %) PRIVATE NODES overhead = 892 ( 8.12 %) Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats): 9600 = 9432 ( 85.82 %) (HST's = 207 or 2.19 % of the 9600 baud modems.) (CSP's = 2 or 0.02 % of the 9600 baud modems.) 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