F I D O N E W S Volume 17, Number 40 03 Oct 2000 +----------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: | | FidoNet community | "FidoNews" | | _ | 1-714-639-0377 1:1/23 | | / \ | | | /|oo \ | | | (_| /_) | | | _`@/_ \ _ | | | | | \ \\ | Editor: Warren Bonner | | | (*) | \ )) | editor@fidonews.org | | |__U__| / \// | | | _//|| _\ / | | | (_/(_|(____/ | | | (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. | | | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +----------------------------+---------------------------------------+ Table of Contents 1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1 From the Editor's Desk ................................... 1 2. ARTICLES ................................................. 2 Makenews needs an enema .................................. 2 FTSC MEMBERS ............................................. 2 Loss of Good Friends ..................................... 3 3. COLUMNS .................................................. 4 Ol' WDB's Column ......................................... 4 4. INTERNET INFO ............................................ 6 FIDONEWS 17-40 Page 1 2 Oct 2000 ================================================================= EDITORIAL ================================================================= From the Editor's Desk by Warren D. Bonner Today I start a new job. A job that was very unexpectedly given to me, primarily because I was one of the columnist in FidoNews before the untimely passing of our dear friend and editor, Doug Myers. Doug was a unique individual, driven to present the "snooze" in a manner that all Fido sysops would find enlightening; well covered in depth, succinct, serious, and funny, as the subject demanded. He never ran from the truth, rather grasped it as a spear to defend any concept that was pertinent to the story line. I was reminded that I don't have to fill Doug's shoes, as that would not be possible; but to pursue the truth with the same diligence that he did. To that end I dedicate myself. The learning how to use the software that formats all articles for reproduction in so many different editors is a trip you don't want to take. It is a cloister of batch files that have not kept pace with technical advances in over a decade. My programming abilities are less than adequate. Therefore, I have prevailed on Joe Jared to make the antiquated MakeNews software more friendly and hopefully more usable. This brings me to mention also, that I have named him as co-moderator of FidoNews. Although my health has been a possible detriment to my being the editor, I am happy to report that all is much improved over a year ago. In conclusion I ask your patience with two "shorties" in four days to get the "Snooze" back on track. Ol'wdb ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 17-40 Page 2 2 Oct 2000 ================================================================= ARTICLES ================================================================= Makenews needs an enema By Joe Jared, 1:103/301 After a cursory analysis of the software used to produce fidonews, a few things become obvious. First, it desperately needs to be replaced, and requires too much hand holding. Secondly, and obviously, since it was originally written by System Enhancement associates (the authors of ARCA) , and since they were unwilling to adapt pkzip to the program, another individual patched the 1989 executable to execute ZIP A instead of arca in order to use pkzip. That has been the extent of the development of makenews over the past 11 years. Given that this program was designed around the time that the SEA VS. PKWARE litigation was just finalizing the result is totally unsurprising. From a purely software perspective, Makenews in its entirely will be replaced with something significantly more friendly over the next couple of weeks. To everyone who has performed the task in the past decade, kudos. Your task was difficult at best, and given the finicky nature of the software, you were the automation instead of the software. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FTSC MEMBERS by David Hallford The Fidonet Technical Standards Committee Standing Members are elected bi-annually. Roughly 50% each year. Sometimes this seems like a magical process that Fidonet Nodes are left in the dark about. What do you do if you think a current member of the FTSC is the wrong (for any reason) person to be on the committee? Using me as an example: You think Dave Hallford is a power hungry [illegitimate child] who is using his position on the Committee to try and consolidate his position in Fidonet so he can eventually take over. You know he is up for re-election this year, but have no idea how to register your protest. From FTA-1001 =========== Standing members may be nominated Fidonet-wide by all of the following methods: 1. Any RC or REC. 2. A nominating committee established for the purpose by the FTSC. 3. A nominating committee established for the purpose by the ZCC. Standing members are appointed on the basis of a vote by all RCs and RECs who are nodelisted as holding those positions at the time the nominations are published. A successful candidate must receive approval by a majority of votes. FIDONEWS 17-40 Page 3 2 Oct 2000 ======== Currently the RC/REC method is used for nominations and elections. So if you think someone is not doing their job or is improperly using their position contact your RC or REC and let them discuss it with other RC's and REC's. After all - The FTSC is *your* committee. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Loss of Good Friends By Bobby Queen,wizards@shelby.net Well folks I hate to have to write an article like this for the snooze but I guess its necessary. This year has been particularly hard for FidoNet. First we lost quite a few with apparent y2k problems, then others started leaving due to lack of callers on their BBS's and then the big problem with us losing some good friends due to death. :( I have lost 2 real good friends in a short period of time this year. Both Kent Anderson and Douglas Myers had become good friends in a short period. Both had become regular email pals and I considered both of them good friends. Unlike friends you can visit with and spend time with in person these friends are sometimes more important to those of us who are unable to work and spend most of our days working on our computers. I have already missed their emails and their short notes full of wit and support. Both of them are going to be missed in FidoNet and although some others may come along and take their place in the echos they can never take their place in our hearts. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 17-40 Page 4 2 Oct 2000 ================================================================= COLUMNS ================================================================= By Warren Bonner WDBonner@pacbell.net Famous Quotes Ah, yes, divorce......., from the Latin word meaning to rip out a man's genitals through his wallet. --Robin Williams Women complain about premenstrual syndrome, but I think of it as the only time of the month that I can be myself. --Roseanne Women need a reason to have sex. Men just need a place. --Billy Crystal You can say any foolish thing to a dog, and the dog will give you a look that says, "My God, you're right! I never would've thought of that!" --Sean Connery According to a new survey, women say they feel more comfortable undressing in front of men than they do undressing in front of other women. They say that women are too judgmental, where, of course, men are just grateful. --Robert DeNiro I am not the boss of my house. I don't know how I lost it. I don't know when I lost it. I don't think I ever had it. But I've seen the boss's job and I don't want it. --Bill Cosby In the last couple of weeks I have seen the ads for the Wonder Bra. Is that really a problem in this country? Men not paying enough attention to women's breasts? --Hugh Grant We have women in the military, but they don't put us in the front lines. They don't know if we can fight or if we can kill. I think we can. All the general has to do is walk over to the women and say, "You see the enemy over there? They say you look fat in those uniforms." --Elayne Boosler There's a new medical crisis. Doctors are reporting that many men are having allergic reactions to latex condoms. They say they cause severe swelling. So what's the problem? --Dustin Hoffman When the sun comes up, I have morals again. --Elizabeth Taylor There's very little advice in men's magazines, because men don't think there's a lot they don't know. Women do. Women want to learn. Men think, "I know what I'm doing, just show me somebody naked. --Jerry Seinfield If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten. --George Clooney FIDONEWS 17-40 Page 5 2 Oct 2000 Instead of getting married again, I'm going to find a woman I don't like and just give her a house. --Rod Stewart The problem with the designated driver program, it's not a desirable job. But if you ever get sucked into doing it, have fun with it. At the end of the night, drop them off at the wrong house. --Jeff Bridges See, the problem is that God gives men a brain and a penis, and only enough blood to run one at a time. --Robin Williams ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 17-40 Page 6 2 Oct 2000 ================================================================= INTERNET INFO ================================================================= ------------------------------------------------------ * Fidonet-related sites . -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- . | FIDONET-RELATED SITES | ` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- ' Last update: September 16, 2000 FidoNet Homepage: http://www.fidonet.org FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML] ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/ ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/ Echolist: http://www.baltimoremd.com/echolist/ Echomail links: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidonet/fidoip.html SDS Files: http://fidobbs.dk/download (Web Access to SDS) FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/ General: http://www.writebynight.com/fidonet.html Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org Region 10: http://www.r10.org http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/ Net 203: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8687/net203index.html Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/ Net 2410: http://www.earforce.dyndns.org/net2410/ Region 12: http://sparkys.dyndns.org Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm Net 264: http://www.net264.org/ Net 275: http://www.homershut.net/~mahoover/net275/ Region 14: http://www.ouijabrd.com/region14 Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/ Region 15: Region 16: Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/ Net 140: http://www.nwstar.com/~net140 Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/ Region 19: http://bise.tzo.com/r19 Net 124: http://www.startext.net/np/net124 http://texoma.net/~flv Net 130: http://www.startext.net/homes/net130 Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/ Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/zone2 (Z2 nodelists etc.) Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish) Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish) Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German) http://www.was-ist-fido.de/ Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German) FIDONEWS 17-40 Page 7 2 Oct 2000 Region 25: http://www.literary.freeserve.co.uk/net2502/ Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French) http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/ Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German) ? Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian) Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish) REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/ Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/ Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English) Region 42: http://www.fido.cz ! Net422: http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English) Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian) Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian) Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian) Net 5028: http://5028.yaroslavl.ru/ Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English) Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian) Net 5074: http://www.z2.n5074.fidonet.net ?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian) Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org Zone 4: Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese) Region 90: Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish) Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/ Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese) Fidonet Via Internet Hubs See also: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email address. The email is translated as follows firstlast@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it would still be joejared@osirusoft.com, but you get the idea. Also, as information is provided to me, I will be adding a latency field to each node, which is defined as the maximum time between when the message is received, and when it is sent on to other nodes, or available to be sent onward, defined in minutes. A latency of ! implies that there is an immediate response, and an attempt to deliver immediately after processing, or a "MinuteMail System", as it were. FIDONEWS 17-40 Page 8 2 Oct 2000 v-email flag firstnamelastname@osirusoft.com | email address or Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate | | |latency| -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------ Zone 1 | | | | 10/3 | Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c 10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c 12/12 @ Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo. 13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo. 103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k,!| n/c 103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c 103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c 103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c 105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c 105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr 106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ??? 106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c 107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo. 140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16 167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c 211/417 @ Korombos | BinkP,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c 218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE | 33.6k | n/c 244/2 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1,! | $25.00/mo 246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c 280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c 395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | 128k | n/c 379/1 @ Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c 396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1,10 | $5/mo 396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr 2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo 2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+,!| n/c 2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c 3613/2 @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE | 28.8 | n/c 3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3639/93 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c 3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6 -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 2 | 20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c 31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c 203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c 221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c 236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c 246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c 280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE | 64k |N/C 292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | N/C 292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c 301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c 332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c 335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c 335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c 346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c FIDONEWS 17-40 Page 9 2 Oct 2000 382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c 406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c 406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c 423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c 464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c 465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c 469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c 2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c 2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c 2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 3 633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c 640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c 774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 4 905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c 902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks * NFS = Linux Networking ---------------------------------------------- Fidonet oriented news servers news.osirusoft.com news.tardis.net Fidonet oriented chat rooms. room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted) ---------------------------------------------- Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to Joe Jared, 1:103/301, joejared@osirusoft.com. All email addresses here for purpose of corresponding with fidonet members about obtaining a feed. Improper use of the virtual email addresses, and most especially, email addressed to blockme@relays.osirusoft.com will be considered a request to be blocked by my open relay spam stopper at http://relays.osirusoft.com -----------------------------------------------------------------