F I D O N E W S Volume 17, Number 38 18 Sep 2000 +----------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: | | FidoNet community | "FidoNews" | | _ | 1-717-732-6820 1:270/720 | | / \ | | | /|oo \ | | | (_| /_) | | | _`@/_ \ _ | | | | | \ \\ | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720 | | | (*) | \ )) | DougM@paonline.com | | |__U__| / \// | | | _//|| _\ / | | | (_/(_|(____/ | | | (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. | | | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +----------------------------+---------------------------------------+ Table of Contents 1. HEADLINES ................................................ 1 Lost Article in this issue ............................... 1 2. EDITORIAL ................................................ 2 King Bob the First ....................................... 2 3. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 4 In Memory of Kent Anderson ............................... 4 4. ARTICLES ................................................. 5 Book About FidoNet Issued Soon! .......................... 5 FN_SYSOP Election ........................................ 6 ECHO TALK - Another tip .................................. 7 5. COLUMNS .................................................. 9 Ol'WDB: All on a Dollar Bill ............................. 9 6. NET HUMOR ................................................ 11 Which Barbie ............................................. 11 7. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 12 Cows for eatin' .......................................... 12 8. INTERNET INFO ............................................ 13 Fidonet-related sites .................................... 13 Change to Internet Listing ............................... 16 9. FIDONEWS INFO ............................................ 18 Masthead ................................................. 18 FIDONEWS 17-38 Page 1 18 Sep 2000 ================================================================= HEADLINES ================================================================= The article concerning the soon-to-be-published book about Fidonet which your editor... uh... misplaced last week appears in this issue. Thanks to Amir Shabashvili for taking the time and trouble to send me this article again. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 17-38 Page 2 18 Sep 2000 ================================================================= EDITORIAL ================================================================= King Bob the First Doug Myers A while back, I defended a column in Fidonews which paid respect to American servicemen. Readers advised me that I should adopt a more international point of view as editor of the Snooze, that highly respected publication of the world. I've been trying really hard, though I've got to admit that I took in the fireworks on the 4th of July, and I still occasionally slip and order a piece of apple pie when I'm dining out (this despite the fact that apple pie is not only considered an "American" dish, but the doctors would be sure to tell me it isn't recommended for the diabetes). In full realization that I'd need to do something proactive if I were going to adjust my attitude to one of a more international bent, I decided to brush up on my British heritage by watching "King Ralph" on one of the cable channels which runs old movies. The movie opens with the entire British Monarchy assembled at an outdoor function during a rain storm. As the rain clears, the entire Royal Family poses for a photograph, only to be electrocuted by a mishap involving an electrical feed drenched by a rain puddle. A search of the Windsor lineage reveals that the only surviving heir to the bloodline is the chronically unemployed American, Ralph, who is more at home in bars and strip joints than at a Royal Function. Everything got straightened out in the end, but the rest of the story is irrelevant to this editorial. What I want to report is the "International Deep Thoughts" which inspired me as I viewed this epic. It occurred to me that Fidonet is in the same predicament which plagued England in the time when the Monarchy ruled... no one really hated the Monarchy, but people everywhere gotta be free. Fido is in that predicament right now: sysops want to determine their own course, but no one wants to rewrite Policy 4. Folks want an active International Coordinator, but no one wants to overthrow the old one. Why can't we use the same methods England did to resolve this conflict - declare a Constitutional Monarchy? Long live King Bob the First and his heirs, but let the _real_ government rest in the hands of the Commoners? I've got to admit that I'm a little shakey on exactly how this was accomplished, but the scholars among us can arrange the necessary details. I think I saw the basic process on an old Robin Hood movie when I was a kid... didn't one of the Merry Men force the King at sword's end to sign the Emancipation Proclamation, thus ushering in the peaceful transition of the British Empire from an absolute monarchy to a constitutional monarchy with an elected House of FIDONEWS 17-38 Page 3 18 Sep 2000 Commons in charge, and a Prime Minister as the _real_ chief executive? Such a solution would be perfect! The mistrusted "Good Ol' Boys Network" would suddenly be transformed to "Defenders of the Faith," keeping the royal bloodlines pure and serving as models of decorum for us all. In the meantime, an elected Parliament of Common Sysops could change the Law of the Land at will, free from the ceremonial functions which stifle action in Fido. All the world over, it's so easy to see... People everywhere just wanna be free. God Save King Bob, the First of the House of Satti! ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 17-38 Page 4 18 Sep 2000 ================================================================= LETTERS TO THE EDITOR ================================================================= In Memory of Kent Anderson Jim McQueen (1:396/45.8) offers the following in support of the editorial on Kent Anderson's passing: The fall gave us thorns to pierce us, but God placed a rose on top to grace us. Oft do the sharp things in life cause us pain, but look to the rose and you will find joy again. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 17-38 Page 5 18 Sep 2000 ================================================================= ARTICLES ================================================================= The book about FidoNet will be issued soon! By Amir Shabashvili, NC 2:5049 2:5049/12 AKA ashabash@mail.ru Well, its done! The Fido-book last 3 years I've been worked on will be published in September, 2000. Of cource, it is in Russian - sorry, but it is't good idea to publish English books in Russia, I guess:) If you ask me, - "why you did this stupud job!?" - I can't explain... Yes, it was horoble job and I lost a lot of quality time for my family/kids, but... this was a book exactly I needed at one time:) Fido in Russia still grow fast, and I hope, this book will be popular and will not be useless. I wanna give my thanks and congratulations to thouse who help me in my job, especially to Dmitry Zavalishin, 2:5020/32. Some info about book: Name: FidoNet: desktop guide for sysop Volume: 736 p. Format: 70 x 100 1/16 46 p.s. Dimension: 165 x 235 x 30 mm ISBN: 5-89818-043-5 Publisher: DMK Press, http://www.dmk.ru (site has English part) Brief contents: Preface (from Dmitry Zavalishin) Introduction Chapter 1: Unformal introduction to FidoNet Chapter 2: Introduction to FidoNet Chapter 3: File-transfer protocols Chapter 4: Data formats Chapter 5: Session protocols (YaHoo, EMSI, etc) Chapter 6: Software and hardware overview Chapter 7: Netmail processing and transfer Chapter 8: Echo conferences Chapter 9: File-echo mechanism Chapter 10: Gateways with external networks Chapter 11: Fido-over-IP Chapter 12: FTN mail-editors software Appendicies: FTS list Policy 4.07 (in Russian) FidoNet abbreviations Fido-jargon dictionary FIDONEWS 17-38 Page 6 18 Sep 2000 Russian echo-conferences list International echo-conferences list FidoNet on the world-map FidoNet on the WEB NC Election rules (2:R50) Echo Policy (2:R50) FidoNet software list Bibliography Brief Annotation: The following edition is mainly addressed to those, wishing to enter a FidoNet computer community. One can setup his or her computer, find necessary programs with the help of this desktop guide, choose the right way to speak when associating with other network members. The book will also be useful to those, who is already acquainted with FidoNet. It will help you turn your home PC into a FidoNet station, and make the right choice among the software needed. The title provides a detailed description of the network, its major services and rules to use them. It also gives a short description of current standards of the FidoNet; the author tells his readers, how an Internet connection for mail transfer can be used. Separate chapters are devoted to file transfer protocols and data formats. Appendices include a list of FidoNet echo-conferences, a glossary of most frequently used computer terms, and translation of the current network regulations (FidoNet Policy 4.07). See picture of book's cover at http://www.dmk.ru (in "Future plans" section, or simply do search on "FidoNet" word). Cheers, Amirko ----------------------------------------------------------------- FN_SYSOP Election As reported previously in Fidonews, the election for moderator of FN_SYSOP is underway. Right now, this echo for sysops is in the nomination phase. Originally, nominations were to be completed by September 15th, but Carol Shenkenberger, the election coordinator, has extended the nomination period. Carol will be out of town during the next week, but has promised to review the echo and accept nominations and seconds upon her return. All nodelisted sysops are eligible to vote in this election, and any may be nominated for candidacy as moderator. Here are the candidates so far: Candidates meeting all requirements to run for election as of this FIDONEWS 17-38 Page 7 18 Sep 2000 post: Darrell Salter 1:229/1 Joe Delahaye, 1:249/303 Michael Grant, 1:134/11 Candidates lacking only acceptance to run: Ward Dossche, 2:292/854 Richard Bowermaster, 1:363/167 Bob Seaborn, 1:140/12 Bob Seaborn has declined the nomination as Fidonews went to press, and Douglas Myers, the current moderator, previously announced that he wouldn't seek a third term. ----------------------------------------------------------------- . -- -- -- -- -- ECHO TALK -- -- -- -- -- . | Food for thought from Fido's echomail. | | Purloined without permission by D Myers | ` -- -- -- -- -- -- - -- -- -- -- -- -- ' Another Tip... Echomail posted by Jim McQueen (1:396/45.8) in FIDONEWS echo Heigh folks! Good to get back to you again. My last tip was on how to use the free media to get more exposure, and attract new users. Possibly to even generate some new Points or Nodes. Well I've got one more tip for you. Well it's a question and a tip at the same time. Maybe we could start a new echo called FIDOTIPS, for the discussion of promoting Fidonet. I've been noticing the same thing you've been noticing. More and more Fidonauts have been bemoaning the free flight from Fido to the I'net. Well have you read the echolist lately? Stop for a moment and look through it again for a second. Most all of what you see there is; Computer platforms Operating systems Fidonet software applications Hardware applications Software applications Hobbies Politics Special interests Soapboxes That's not all conclusive but you get my drift. Read through it again a couple of times. Notice something? Most people don't care FIDONEWS 17-38 Page 8 18 Sep 2000 about these sorts of things on a daily basis. What people care about is what they do every day. That's the fabric of life. Well guess who those people are? They're me and you. Maybe we aren't attracting new customers because we aren't being very interesting. What if each one of us took a good look at ourselves and started a new echo about what's important to us. Or what we're doing every day. See what I mean? There's enough of us in every part of the world, that we make up a very acceptable cross section of all peoples. You know what they say; you build a better mouse trap, and the world will beat a path to your door. Look at yourself and your life. What's important to you? Get a handle on it and start an echo. There are lots of people out there like you. Go for it, and draw them in. Okay now for my question. If I am really interested in a certain widget, or maybe I know a lot about a certain widget. Can I start an echo up for my interest? Is it just a matter of sending a MOD UPD for the new echo, as thought it were an old one being renewed? As we speak, the Olympic torch is being carried througout all the land. Let us carry the torch of Fidonet in this same tradition. Go forth people, and be creative! ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 17-38 Page 9 18 Sep 2000 ================================================================= COLUMNS ================================================================= Ol'WDB's Column wdbonner@pacbell.com All on a Dollar Bill Have a dollar bill handy when you read this to really get the message. Take out a one dollar bill and look at it. The one dollar bill you're looking at first came off the presses in 1957 in its present design. This so-called paper money is in fact a cotton and linen blend, with red and blue minute silk fibers running through it. It is actually material. We've all washed it without it falling apart. A special blend of ink is used, the contents we will never know. It is overprinted with symbols and then it is starched to make it water resistant and pressed to give it that nice crisp look. If you look on the front of the bill, you will see the United States Treasury Seal. On the top you will see the scales for the balance--a balanced budget. In the center you have a carpenter's T-square, a tool used for an even cut. Underneath is the Key to the United States Treasury. That's all pretty easy to figure out, but what is on the back of that dollar bill is something we should all know. If you turn the bill over, you will see two circles. Both circles, together, comprise the Great Seal of the United States. The First Continental Congress requested that Benjamin Franklin and a group of men come up with a Seal. It took them four years to accomplish this task and another two years to get it approved. If you look at the left hand circle, you will see a Pyramid. Notice the face is lighted and the western side is dark. This country was just beginning. We had not begun to explore the West or decided what we could do for Western Civilization. The Pyramid is un-capped, again signifying that we were not even close to being finished. Inside the capstone you have the all-seeing eye, an ancient symbol for divinity. It was Franklin's belief that one man couldn't do it alone, but a group of men, with the help of God, could do anything. "IN GOD WE TRUST" is on this currency. The Latin above the pyramid, ANNUIT COEPTIS, means "God has favored our undertaking." The Latin below the pyramid, NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM, means "a new order has begun." At the base of the pyramid is the Roman Numeral for 1776. If you look at the right-hand circle, and check it carefully, you will learn that it is on every National Cemetery in the United States. It is also on the Parade of Flags Walkway at the Bushnell, Florida National Cemetery and is the centerpiece of most hero's monuments. Slightly modified, it is the seal of the President of the United States and it is always visible whenever he speaks, yet no one knows what the symbols mean. The Bald Eagle was selected as a symbol for victory for two reasons: first, he is not afraid of a FIDONEWS 17-38 Page 10 18 Sep 2000 storm; he is strong and he is smart enough to soar above it. Secondly, he wears no material crown. We had just broken from the King of England. Also, notice the shield is unsupported. This country can now stand on its own. At the top of that shield you have a white bar signifying congress, a unifying factor. We were coming together as one nation. In the Eagle's beak you will read, "E PLURIBUS UNUM", meaning "one nation from many people." Above the Eagle you have thirteen stars representing the thirteen original colonies, and any clouds of misunderstanding rolling away. Again, we were coming together as one. Notice what the Eagle holds in his talons. He holds an olive branch and arrows. This country wants peace, but we will never be afraid to fight to preserve peace. The Eagle always wants to face the olive branch, but in time of war, his gaze turns toward the arrows. They say that the number 13 is an unlucky number. This is almost a worldwide belief. You will usually never see a room numbered 13, or any hotels or motels with a 13th floor. But think about this: 13 original colonies, 13 signers of the Declaration of Independence, 13 stripes on our flag, 13 steps on the Pyramid, 13 letters in the Latin above, 13 letters in "E Pluribus Unum", 13 stars above the Eagle, 13 plumes of feathers on each span of the Eagle's wing, 13 bars on that shield, 13 leaves on the olive branch, 13 fruits, and if you look closely, 13 arrows. And for minorities: the 13th Amendment. I always ask people, "Why don't you know this?" Your children don't know this and their history teachers don't know this. Too may veterans have given up too much to ever let the meaning fade. Many veterans remember coming home to an America that didn't care. Too many veterans never came home at all. Tell everyone what is on the back of the one dollar bill and what it stands for, because, likely no one else will. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 17-38 Page 11 18 Sep 2000 ================================================================= NET HUMOR ================================================================= Which Barbie Thanks to Roy Reed Ralph was driving home one evening when he suddenly realizes that it's his daughter's birthday and he hasn't bought her a present. He drives to the toy shop, runs to the toy store and says to the shop assistant, "How much is that Barbie in the window?" In a condescending manner, she says "Which Barbie?" She continues, "We have Barbie Goes to the Gym for $19.95, Barbie Goes to the Ball for $19.95, Barbie Goes Shopping for $19.95, Barbie Goes to the Beach for $19.95, Barbie Goes Nightclubbing for $19.95, and Divorced Barbie for $265.00". Ralph asks, "Why is the Divorced Barbie $265.00 when all the others are only $19.95?" "That's obvious" the sales lady says. "Divorced Barbie comes with Ken's house, Ken's car, Ken's boat, Ken's furniture..." ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 17-38 Page 12 18 Sep 2000 ================================================================= COMIX IN ASCII ================================================================= Cows for eatin'.... (__) _______________* (xx)-\ \ \/ /-\___________\--\ Boneless Cow (__) ---_ (oo) /| \ /-------\/ / |\ \_ (__) / | | * ||\ (oo) * ------ ~~ \____ \/ No leg cow (ground beef) Two leg cow (lean beef) ___________________ /McCow McCow McCow M\ Ronald /Cow McCow McCow McCow\ McDonald's ------------------------- Cow \McCow McCow McCow McC/ \w McCow McCow McCow/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 17-38 Page 13 18 Sep 2000 ================================================================= INTERNET INFO ================================================================= . -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- . | FIDONET-RELATED SITES | ` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- ' Last update: September 16, 2000 FidoNet Homepage: http://www.fidonet.org FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML] ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/ ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/ Echolist: http://www.baltimoremd.com/echolist/ Echomail links: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidonet/fidoip.html SDS Files: http://fidobbs.dk/download (Web Access to SDS) FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/ General: http://www.writebynight.com/fidonet.html Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org Region 10: http://www.r10.org http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/ Net 203: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8687/net203index.html Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/ Net 2410: http://www.earforce.dyndns.org/net2410/ Region 12: http://sparkys.dyndns.org Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm Net 264: http://www.net264.org/ Net 275: http://www.homershut.net/~mahoover/net275/ Region 14: http://www.ouijabrd.com/region14 Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/ Region 15: Region 16: Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/ Net 140: http://www.nwstar.com/~net140 Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/ Region 19: http://bise.tzo.com/r19 Net 124: http://www.startext.net/np/net124 http://texoma.net/~flv Net 130: http://www.startext.net/homes/net130 Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/ Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/zone2 (Z2 nodelists etc.) Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish) Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish) Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German) http://www.was-ist-fido.de/ Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German) Region 25: http://www.literary.freeserve.co.uk/net2502/ Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie FIDONEWS 17-38 Page 14 18 Sep 2000 REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French) http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/ Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German) ? Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian) Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish) REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/ Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/ Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English) Region 42: http://www.fido.cz ! Net422: http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English) Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian) Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian) Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian) Net 5028: http://5028.yaroslavl.ru/ Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English) Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian) Net 5074: http://www.z2.n5074.fidonet.net ?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian) Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org Zone 4: Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese) Region 90: Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish) Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/ Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese) Fidonet Via Internet Hubs See also: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email address. The email is translated as follows firstlast@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it would still be joejared@osirusoft.com, but you get the idea. Also, as information is provided to me, I will be adding a latency field to each node, which is defined as the maximum time between when the message is received, and when it is sent on to other nodes, or available to be sent onward, defined in minutes. A latency of ! implies that there is an immediate response, and an attempt to deliver immediately after processing, or a "MinuteMail System", as it were. v-email flag firstnamelastname@osirusoft.com FIDONEWS 17-38 Page 15 18 Sep 2000 | email address or Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate | | |latency| -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------ Zone 1 | | | | 10/3 | Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c 10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c 12/12 @ Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo. 13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo. 103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k,!| n/c 103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c 103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c 103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c 105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c 105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr 106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ??? 106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c 107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo. 140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16 167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c 211/417 @ Korombos | BinkP,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c 218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE | 33.6k | n/c 244/2 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1,! | $25.00/mo 246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c 280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c 395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | 128k | n/c 379/1 @ Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c 396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1,10 | $5/mo 396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr 2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo 2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+,!| n/c 2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c 3613/2 @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE | 28.8 | n/c 3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3639/93 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c 3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6 -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 2 | 20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c 31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c 203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c 221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c 236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c 246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c 280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE | 64k |N/C 292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | N/C 292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c 301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c 332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c 335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c 335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c 346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c 382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c FIDONEWS 17-38 Page 16 18 Sep 2000 406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c 406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c 423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c 464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c 465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c 469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c 2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c 2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c 2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 3 633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c 640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c 774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 4 905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c 902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks * NFS = Linux Networking ---------------------------------------------- Fidonet oriented news servers news.osirusoft.com news.tardis.net Fidonet oriented chat rooms. room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted) ---------------------------------------------- Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to Joe Jared, 1:103/301, joejared@osirusoft.com. All email addresses here for purpose of corresponding with fidonet members about obtaining a feed. Improper use of the virtual email addresses, and most especially, email addressed to blockme@relays.osirusoft.com will be considered a request to be blocked by my open relay spam stopper at http://relays.osirusoft.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 17-38 Page 17 18 Sep 2000 Changes to Internet Listing Jan Vermeulen (2:280/100) informs us of the following change to the Fidonews Internet listings: the Zone 2 entry as in FidoNews Vol 17 Number 29: "284/800 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c" should be changed to "280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c" as the former number will soon disappear from the Nodelist. Eugene Horosheff (pluto@uralan.ru) informs us that the following new site is now available: Zone 2, region 50, net 5074: http://www.z2.n5074.fidonet.net These changes have been added to the Fidonet Internet listings (thanks Joe)! ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 17-38 Page 18 18 Sep 2000 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFO ================================================================= Masthead + -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- FIDONEWS STAFF - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- + | | | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720, DougM@paonline.com | | Webmaster: Jim Barchuk, jb@fidonews.org | | Columnist: Joe Jared, 1:103/0, jarhead@osirusoft.com | | (Fido Via Internet Hubs column) | | Columnist: Warren D. 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