F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 36 6 September 1999 +----------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: | | FidoNet community | "FidoNews" | | _ | +27-41-581-5913 [5:5/23] | | / \ | | | /|oo \ | | | (_| /_) | Editor: | | _`@/_ \ _ | | | | | \ \\ | Henk Wolsink 5:7104/2 | | | (*) | \ )) | | | |__U__| / \// | | | _//|| _\ / | | | (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | | (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +----------------------------+---------------------------------------+ | Submission address: FidoNews Editor 5:5/23 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | MORE addresses: | | submissions=> editor@fidonews.org | | hwolsink@catpe.alt.za | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | For information, copyrights, article submissions, | | obtaining copies of FidoNews or the internet gateway FAQ | | please refer to the end of this file. | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ Table of Contents 1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1 2. ARTICLES ................................................. 2 Netmail Information Service .............................. 2 Z-snips: the Legacy of Star Wars ......................... 4 3. COLUMNS .................................................. 6 4. NOTICES .................................................. 8 Future History ........................................... 8 5. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 9 6. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 12 FIDONEWS 16-36 Page 1 6 Sep 1999 ================================================================= EDITORIAL ================================================================= Greetings, Since Douglas Myers did a stand-in editor job while I was away, I have given the job to him. Any complains? No, I knew you would agree. ;-) Doug will take over as from issue 38, or 20 September 1999. Happy reading, ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-36 Page 2 6 Sep 1999 ================================================================= ARTICLES ================================================================= Collin County Station's Netmail Information Service -*- Welcome to "InfoMail" Useing this program/service is very simple. 1. Enter a Netmail message to "InfoMail" without the quotes. (capitalization isn't important) Fidonet address, 1:124/6308 You can send this "Routed" or "Crash". _ALL_ replies will be "Routed" 2. For a subject, put the document that you want to receive If you don't know, or just want to search for a word in the list, send the Netmail to "InfoMail Search" and put the word you are looking for in the Subject area. 3. In the text area, put anything you like. This is ignored but required for many mailers to handle the message. Upon receiving the message, my system will search the document list for a match and send the response back to you via a Netmail message. Please let me know if there are errors. I'm only human and make mistakes like anyone else. :-) Here is a list of the documents we have available here; ? List of documents available ARTSPEC FidoNews Article Submission Guidelines BackBone North America BackBone Echolist Backbone1 List of active echos, Zone 1 Backbone Backboneww List of Echos carried on the World Wide Backbone BackStat North American Backbone - Status and Changes Backstat1 Change Status, Zone 1 Backbone Backstatww World Wide Backbone Status and Changes Big_Dummy ** THE BIG DUMMY'S GUIDE TO FIDONET ** DFWLIST The DFW BBs List Fido_Ben_Baker Fidonet History according to Ben Baker Fido_History_Pt1 FidoNet History and Operation (8 Feb 85) Tom Jennings Fido_History_Pt2 FidoNet History and Operation Part 2 (Tom Jennings) Fidonet? What is Fidonet Fidonews The Weekly Fido News HUBGUIDE Net 124 HUB GUIDELINES Internet_Point How to use your Point System with the Internet Internet_to_Fido How gate E-Mail to and from Fidonet Net106 BBs list for Net 106 (Houston, Tx. Area) Net112 BBs list for Florida's_First_Coast_Net, Jacksonville_FL Net116 BBs list for Middle_Tennessee_Net,Nashville_TN Net117 BBs list for Net 117 (Brazos Valley Area, Tx.) FIDONEWS 16-36 Page 3 6 Sep 1999 Net123 BBs list for Mid-South_Net,Memphis_TN Net124 BBs list for Net 124 (Dallas, Tx.) Net130 BBs list for Net 130 (Ft. Worth, Tx.) Net133 BBs list for Atlanta_Net_NC,Tucker_GA Net135 BBs list for South_Florida_Net,Miami_FL Net137 BBs list for Florida_Suncoast_Net,Bradenton_FL Net147 BBs list for Net 147 (OKC MetroNET, Ok.) Net151 BBs list for NC_Net,Raleigh_NC Net170 Bbs list for Net 170 (Tulsa Area, Ok.) Net340 BBs list for South_Vancouver_Island,BC_Canada Net342 BBs list for Central_Alberta,Edmonton_AB Net343 BBs list for Lesser_Seattle_Opera,Seattle_WA Net346 BBs list for Inland_Northwest_Fidonet,Spokane_WA Net360 BBs list for Augusta_Net,Augusta_GA Net3601 BBs list for Florida_Gator_Net,Gainesville_FL Net3602 BBs list for Birmingham_Net,Birmingham_AL Net3603 BBs list for PinellasNET_3603_Host,Pinellas_Park_FL Net3607 BBs list for North_Alabama_Net,Cullman_AL Net3608 BBs list for Panama_City_Net,Lynn_Haven_FL Net3609 BBs list for Gator_Net,West_Palm_Beach_FL Net361 BBs list for Florida_Independents_Net,Wausau_FL Net3612 BBs list for Net_3612_Pensacola_FL,Pensacola_FL Net3613 BBs list for Georgia-Alabama_Consolidated_Net, Cusseta_Ga Net3614 BBs list for Jacksonville_NC_Net,Jacksonville_NC Net3615 BBs list for TN_Valley_Net,Knoxville_TN Net3618 BBs list for West_Volusia_Fl_Net,Deltona_Fl Net3619 BBs list for West_Pasco_Net,New_Port_Richey_FL Net362 BBs list for Chatta-NET_METRO,Chattanooga_TN Net3621 BBs list for Clarksville_Net,Woodlawn_TN Net363 BBs list for Orlando_Data_Information_Network, Orlando_FL Net3632 BBs list for Jackson_Metro,Clinton_MS Net3634 BBs list for Fayetteville_Net,Sanford_NC Net3639 BBs list for Upstate_SC_Net,Greenville_SC Net3648 BBs list for The_Central_Carolina_Network, Asheboro_NC Net365 BBs list for North_Central_Fla_Net,Ocala_FL Net3651 BBs list for Pee_Dee_NET,Hartsville_SC Net366 BBs list for NW_Florida,Ft_Walton_Beach_FL Net3660 BBs list for Wayne_County_Net,Freemont_NC Net3661 BBs list for Winston-Salem_NET,Winston-Salem_NC Net3666 BBs list for NW_NC_NET,Hickory_NC Net3667 BBs list for NC_Independents_NET3667_NC,Shelby_NC Net369 BBs list for Treasure_Coast_Net,Coconut_Creek_FL Net371 BBs list for SW_Florida_Coast_Net,Fort_Myers_FL Net372 BBs list for Charleston_SC_Net,Charleston_SC Net374 BBs list for Space_Coast_Net,Melbourne_FL Net375 BBs list for Central_Alabama_Net,Montgomery_AL Net376 BBs list for Cola_Net,Columbia_SC Net377 BBs list for Tampa_Bay_Net,Tampa_Fl Net379 BBs list for CHARLOTTE_AREA_NET,Pine_Harbor_NC Net380 BBs list for Net 380 (S'port/Bossier Net, La.) Net3800 BBs list for Net 3800 (Baton Rouge La) Net3802 BBs list for Net 3802 (Victoria TX) Net3803 BBs list for Net 3803 (Lafayette LA) FIDONEWS 16-36 Page 4 6 Sep 1999 Net3804 BBs list for Net 3804 (Lubbock TX) Net3807 BBs List for Net 3807 (LakeArea Net,Westlake LA.) Net381 BBs list for Net 381 (West Texas Net) Net3812 BBs list for Net 3812 (Brazoria County Net, Richwood TX) Net382 BBs list for Net 382 (Capitol of Texas) Net3821 BBs list for Net 3821 (Little Rock Metro, Little Rock AR) Net3828 BBs list for Net 3828 (Causeway North Net,Bush LA) Net387 BBs list for Net 387 (San Antonio, Tx.) Net388 BBs list for Net 388 (Heart of Texas, Waco) Net393 BBs list for Net 393 (Denton, Tx.) Net395 BBs list for Net 395 (Central Texas & Fort Hood) Net396 BBs list for Net 396 (New Orleans Area, La.) Net397 BBS list for Net 397 (South TX/Rio Grande Valley) Net_info Net 124 Node Information File Netstats Statistics from the Fidonet Nodelist Satti Decisions made by Bob Satti as Z1C StartBBs So you want to start a BBS? -*- End of Document ----------------------------------------------------------------- Z-snips: the Legacy of Star Wars Douglas Myers 1:270/720 A while back, when the North American Backbone (NAB) was the undisputed prime mover of mail in Zone 1, I reported and commented on the upheavals of the Star systems of the NAB. Though the Star Systems of that time are still prominent, new players on the scene tend to call themselves Z-hubs now. The major storms which led to the splintering of the NAB are still around, but they're spread thinner among new players now. The Fidonews Weather Service has downgraded these storms from "Star Wars" to "Z-snips." Why are the Z-hubs snipping at each other these days? The answer is most likely two-fold. 1) Fidonet is aptly nicknamed Fight-o-net in that old hostilities never seem to die and new ones are constantly discovered. 2) There are more problems with echomail distribution than there were when the structure was more monolithic. Leaving number 1 alone above, let's look at number 2: why are there more problems? Mostly it's a matter of increased complexity in the top level of distribution (Star distribution or Z-hub distribution). The Star distribution until very recently was relatively simple: A / \ B --- C Three star systems polled each other frequently throughout the day, and all other echomail feeds were derived from one of these systems (at least ideally). The system had the advantage of rapid mail delivery and no inherent problem with duplicates. FIDONEWS 16-36 Page 5 6 Sep 1999 Towards the end of 1998, however, a fourth star system was added to the structure: A / | \ B - + - C \ | / D This seemed like a good idea at the time, as it incorporated the Fidospine distribution system under the NAB system... it seemed just recognition of a situation which already existed. However, it did increase the complexity of the structure to the extent that all four systems had to cooperate even more than before to ensure the smooth flow of mail - and unwillingness to cooperate ultimately splintered the NAB. This system was susceptible to duplicate message generation if one system decided to stop polling another system. To visualize this, imagine that system A decides to disconnect system D. Before the cut, system A would add system D's node number to the "seen-by" control lines of each echomail message it would process for him before sending it to him. The echomail processors at nodes B and C would read the seen-by line before making mail packets, and not include this message for system D. However, once system A cuts system D and stops adding this number to the seen-by line, both systems B and C will pack the message for system D, resulting in duplicate messages at system D. Though these duplicates were generated during the spats which characterized the period right before the NAB splintered, virtually all of them were detected by a cyclic redundancy check at the systems getting these dupes, and few were passed on. So the problem was more imagined than real, but it fueled the arguments over non-technical issues (such as who was in charge) and ultimately led to the withdrawal of systems from the NAB to start the Z1B. The current issue rocking the tranquility of echomail distribution seems to be an ongoing argument between John Souvestre and Alec Grynspan. John has, in the recent past, disconnected from all NAB Star systems except George Peace in an effort to prevent the generation of duplicates. Alec has recently expanded his echomail connections to span both the Z1B distribution and the NAB distribution, effectively establishing a mesh which can lead to duplicates. John has shown a portion of his logs which indicate that at least one duplicate flowed through Alec's system. How extensive the problem is truly is unknown to me, but the argument itself has the potential for destabilization. It's reminiscent of the arguments between John and Bob Seaborn before the splintering of the NAB. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-36 Page 6 6 Sep 1999 ================================================================= COLUMNS ================================================================= Last Updated: 8/30/1999 Fidonet Via Internet Hubs Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate -----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------ Zone 1 | 10/3 | Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | T1? | $??/$10 12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo. 13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo. 103/301 | Joe Jared | BinkP | aDSL | n/c 105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c 106/1 | Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | 128k | n/c 106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | 64k | $5/mo 107/451 | Andy Knifel | FTP, VMoT, UUE | 33.6 | n/c 140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP | T1 | $5/$20 167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c 211/417 | Korombos | BinkD,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c 270/101 | George Peace | FTP | T1 | $30mo. 271/140 | Tom Barstow | UUE | T1 | n/c 280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c 345/0 | Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c 396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $10/mo 396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr 2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn 2424/10 | Alec Grynspan | FTP,UUE | T1 | n/c 2424/101 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1 | n/c 2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo 2613/404 | David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+ | n/c 2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c 3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3639/93 | Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP | 128K+ | n/c 3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6 -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 2 | 20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c 23/999 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c 31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | ??? | n/c 203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c 221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP | ??? | n/c 246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c 254/175 | Alex Kemp | UUE | 56k | n/c 284/800 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 292/626 | Filip Ruymen | Binkp, UUE | 128K+ | n/c 292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c 301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | ??? | n/c 332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c 335/535 | Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c 335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c 382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c FIDONEWS 16-36 Page 7 6 Sep 1999 406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c 406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c 423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c 464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c 465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c 469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c 2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c 2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c 2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 3 633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c 640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c 774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 4 905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c 902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to Joe Jared, 1:103/301, joejared@osirusoft.com, and complaints to jarhead@osirusoft.com . ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-36 Page 8 6 Sep 1999 ================================================================= NOTICES ================================================================= Future History 10 Sep 1999 10th anniversary of Zone 5 operations. 26 Oct 1999 Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles. 31 Dec 1999 Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed. 1 Jan 2000 The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec. 1 Jun 2000 EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens. 15 Sep 2000 Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens. 21 Sep 2000 10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR) 1 Jan 2001 This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E. -- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-36 Page 9 6 Sep 1999 ================================================================= FIDONET BY INTERNET ================================================================= This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end. FidoNet: Homepage http://www.fidonet.org FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML] http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII] WWW sources http://travel.to/fidonet/ FTSC page http://www.ftsc.org/ Echomail [pending] General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html List servers: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion ============ Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/ Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm Net 264: http://www.net264.org/ Region 14: Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/ Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/ Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/ Region 19: http://members.home.net/hbh3/r19 Zone 1 Elist http://www.baltimoremd.com/elist/ ============ Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish) Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German) Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido (English/German) Region 25: http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/ Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb FIDONEWS 16-36 Page 10 6 Sep 1999 Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French) Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German) Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian) Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish) REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/ Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/ Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English) Region 42: http://www.fido.cz Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian) Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian) Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English) Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian) ============ Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org ============ Zone 4: Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish) ============ Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/ ============ Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese) ============ Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor, and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites. If no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from that Region is used in its place. Generally, Regional pages should list access points to all Networks within the Region. TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone. -----------oOo------------- FIDONEWS 16-36 Page 11 6 Sep 1999 ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 16-36 Page 12 6 Sep 1999 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFORMATION ================================================================= ------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ------- Editor: Henk Wolsink Editors Emeriti: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees, Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg "FidoNews Editor" FidoNet 5:5/23 BBS +27-41-581-5913, 2400/9600/V34 more addresses: Henk Wolsink -- 5:7104/2, hwolsink@catpe.alt.za (Postal Service mailing address) FidoNews Editor P.O. 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