F I D O N E W S -- Volume 15, Number 18 4 May 1998 +----------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: | | FidoNet community | "FidoNews" | | _ | 1-209-251-7529 [1:1/23] | | / \ | | | /|oo \ | | | (_| /_) | | | _`@/_ \ _ | | | | | \ \\ | Editor: | | | (*) | \ )) | Zorch Frezberg 1:205/1701 | | |__U__| / \// | | | _//|| _\ / | | | (_/(_|(____/ | | | (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. | | | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +----------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | Submission address: FidoNews Editor 1:1/23 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | MORE addresses: | | | | submissions=> editor@fidonews.org | | | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | For information, copyrights, article submissions, | | obtaining copies of FidoNews or the internet gateway FAQ | | please refer to the end of this file. | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Where does it end...and begin again? Table of Contents 1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1 2. COLUMNS .................................................. 2 Zone 1 awash in radish frenzy, news at 11 ................ 2 3. ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT ........................ 5 DOC LOGGER is a SPACE MONKEY !!!! ........................ 5 4. NOTICES .................................................. 6 Future History ........................................... 6 5. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY ...................................... 7 FidoNews PGP Public-Key Listing .......................... 7 6. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 8 Fidonet Via Internet Hubs ................................ 8 7. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 11 FIDONEWS 15-18 Page 1 4 May 1998 ================================================================= EDITORIAL ================================================================= There isn't a lot in this issue...outside my window, it's raining during a storm that wasn't supposed to be here until this coming Wednesday. Another El Nino artifact, I presume, modified by the arrival this early morning of a Harrier jump jet for a series of training exercises at the local National Guard air base. For those of you who have never experienced a Harrier landing, be prepared to dive for cover, as the noise generated is not unlike a large airliner crashing into your living room...for about five minutes. One thing came to mind this visit, however...how is this plane to "quietly" attack its targets? Or does it's strike speed make up for it's lack of 'stealth'? There's a message in there...just think it over a bit. As things go, Zone 2 seems to have modified its "position", in that Ward Dossche is no longer making noises of separating Zone 2 from the rest of FidoNet...but then, he still doesn't want to allow any sort of dissenting opinion to be posted along with his own messages. To that end, a new echo called ZCC-DISCUSSIONS looks like it is being formed to route around Ward's censorship. You might inquire about the availability of the echo if you are interested in Zone and International matters. And, for the last time, I ask if anyone out there has a compiler for Lattice C code, or a "translation" scheme to move the Lattice C code to something a bit more 'useful' or 'relevant' to modern C or C++ compiles...please contact me at one of the addresses below. -zf- ### 30 ### ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 15-18 Page 2 4 May 1998 ================================================================= COLUMNS ================================================================= Dear Editorbeing, This article is submitted by Doc Logger (1:163/110, cherriot@magmacom.com) whose bleary eyes were caused by creating new Map projections to satisfy the geographic anomalies in Net163. Roll da flic, Zorch.... Dear Reverend Visage, The editors of Swamp Swine Magazine were a tadge concerned about the recent photo essay you submitted. They said that Sports Illustrated had already done the swimsuit issue theme and they could hardly discern which audience would be intrigued by scantily clad penguins. Did you send the right box of slides? Not much has happened on the Western Front this week other than the fact that Bob "Noted" Satti used up a mere 37 words of his quota last week so we can look forward to perhaps as much as 54 stunning words of wisdom from him next week. I posted the survey results in the usual elflord echos where it served as a useful spacer between the avalanche of Tannacore trophalactic effluvia and the Tom Cole Charm School lessons. To his credit, Jerry Schwartz took the time to question the validity of the survey but didn't quite bring himself to say whether he disbelieved the results. The elves in Net163's Sherwood Forest have added a node from Edmonton and a node from Rhode Island to their merry band. Needless to say, our lil' buddy Dallas Hinton has fired off the usual pre-policy complaint inquiries. Hint for Blondes: Yo Dallas, if NCs in your net weren't so busy threatening to excise sysops from the nodelist, perhaps they'd be happier to stay on as labourers in your Gulag. What is even more amusing about this latest exchange of grapeshot is that, after reading Bob "noted" Satti's last policy appeal decision wherein Satti whinged about not being asked for a geographic exemption; the NC-babe of net163 humoured him with a request. Bob "Noted" Satti sat on his prehensile thumbs and didn't deign to answer the request. The much maligned Bob Kohl emerged from his bunker long enough to post a series of incomprehensible responses to his multitude of detractors. Of course, once his head was up above the foxhole, he took it in the shorts again for having violated the privacy of routed netmail. The RECs have resolved not to call for Kohl's removal as the Z1EC, but instead to ignore him in the hopes that he finds amusements FIDONEWS 15-18 Page 3 4 May 1998 more suited to his talents - like sanding wooden blocks, for example. Our prayers and our edible underwear should go out to the multitude that is Zorch. Apparently one of his detractors has alleged that more than one vote was cast by one warm body in the Z1EC election. Zorch has stated that he has enjoyed the suppositions which either indicates that his detractors are sucking pipe, or else Zorch is suffering from a radish deficiency. Maurice Kimal, who would have made a great Young Republican when Nixon was clinging to his last venal months of power, has chastised Zorch's detractors for their "witch hunt tactics." His Zorchness recommended reading Ayn Rand's naive capitalist anthem "Atlas Shrugged" which I found amusing. Perhaps he would be delighted to know that the modern era Hank Reardons are 22 year old derivatives traders at Morgan Stanley who can pole-axe national monetary policy with just a few, ill chosen trades. For this week's Chautauqua I would like to include a pithy quote from Wayne C. Booth's "Is There Any Knowledge That a Man Must Have?" The issue arose in a personal way when I noted that neither of my teenmonsters who are attending high school have had to write a single essay in school this year. My first and obvious conclusion was that they were being adequately trained to become the next generation of echomail participants where standards of literacy are no asset. In the case of my teenmonsters, what concerns me about the lack of essays was the more important issue of what sort of critical abilities can they hope to achieve if they are never compelled to use them. Anyway, here's Booth's commentary: "The man who has not learned anything about how to understand his own intentions and to make them effective in the world, who has not, through experience and books, learned something about what is possible and what impossible, what desirable and what undesirable, will be enslaved by the political and social intentions of other men, benign or malign." Booth doesn't say it, but I also wonder if there is a more prevalent ideology which suggests that the first preference of people is *not* to have their feet held to the flames of knowledge. Ignorance and irresponsibility are bedfellows. >From experience I surmise that one of the cruelest torments you can inflict on those who refuse to be educated is the insistence that they be responsible. This is the fly in the ointment of democracy because assuming an informed electorate is fallacious. This truth is used by disparate groups on the political spectrum. From the Dallas Hintons who assert the sysops are too dumb to choose their own masters, to the anarchists who assert that the only valid compact is one between individuals. I favour the latter reasoning but also recognize that between the choices of totalism and democracy, the latter is the lessor evil. FIDONEWS 15-18 Page 4 4 May 1998 I must go Visage. I have promised to give a Theremin concert for a roving pack of whales in Rivierre Du Loup this evening. One has to take audiences wherever they can be found, as you well know. I hope your secretary appreciated the truckload of radishes that I thoughtfully had delivered to her room. Regards, Doc Logger Tuber Tranquillity Research Centre, Furlang Island, South Pacific ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 15-18 Page 5 4 May 1998 ================================================================= ADVERTISE YOUR FREE SERVICE/EVENT ================================================================= DOC LOGGER is a SPACE MONKEY ... and works undercover for N.A.S.A.! NOT REALLY. Just kidding. BUT.... now that I have your attention, why don't you try some of these fine echos today: the CFL echo: Everything CFL: the Canadian Football League. the AMIGA_LC echo: Fidonet's only echo exclusively for programming the Amiga with C and C++. the WELFARE echo: For debating the systems of social welfare (including Social Security) in the United States and other countries, alternatives to them, and associated politics. All of the above available on the North American Backbone and distributed by the FidoSpine distribution system. -- Ronnie L. Grant, 1:3603/140 or ronnie.grant@global.dyn.ml.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 15-18 Page 6 4 May 1998 ================================================================= NOTICES ================================================================= Future History 17 May 1998 Independence Day, Norway. 22 May 1998 Expo '98 World Exposition in Lisbon (Portugal) opens. 14 Sep 1998 Start of International BBS Week [thru 20 Sep 98]. 22 Sep 1998 First anniversary of the FidoNews domain of www.fidonews.org. 1 Dec 1998 Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by Tom Jennings. 24 Jul 1999 XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99]. 31 Dec 1999 Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed. 1 Jan 2000 The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec. 1 Jun 2000 EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens. 15 Sep 2000 Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens. 1 Jan 2001 This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E. -- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 15-18 Page 7 4 May 1998 ================================================================= FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY ================================================================= FidoNews PGP Public-Key Listing [this must be copied out to a file starting at column 1 or it won't process under PGP as a valid public-key] -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Democracy Requires A Free And Uncensored Press. mQENAzUDQfgAAAEH/2cZjrzKxinfyk1NRYy2D78JEU8jFx6fvGyisnN2SX+QwRrA AxBbsMuseM3x60SFhHV7r93CxKWJylPCBJKvDazmWwy+vgBr+ZJvl7Ypj/IB4pWS Apngg8cmDH1h5d0VeYNORsuJ2udHZYRezkZ0eeJlaOsJCj5Xu0QImSp++VU/0oB1 6XRoNPy548xq8Qles1pLC8Kw7HU7Vff1WeaU3mPPQeaGZqn2qSAu5t6Z0Bhm27Pq zNaJ+JWNHaLCHlwrRHV+p9bCdfl3u303OxKPne0cSpxfe+gQBTlVta7B14ssgnzQ mnBFhvKWgM7LT105YD3EcWW9IJE1ByNHwo25a3EABRG0D0ZpZG9OZXdzIEVkaXRv cokAlQMFEDUKMDDrSgiY3KJNQQEB16YD/2tYVRC+dxghA/OwIWNH20GvQXw1zgfv cB6r8gYHcczTCqGu5qbjDOTftoBXY9vI3/CZNsSbvp0ibQinpN6zSgyy2+4wwPbu db/VnjXwBByq7ygTpNwQBMsYjs+iyndwTnR90dH3FewsveBCzeqjmP0Y/PJliElw zEmGKxoFr1SM =G82W -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- File-request FNEWSKEY from 1:1/23 [1:205/1701] or download it from IKVHFoT! 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NOTE: I am looking for a comprehensive list of Telnet, VMODEM, BinkP, Argus and other TCP/IP based nodes operating FidoNet on the FIDONEWS 15-18 Page 9 4 May 1998 InterNet, either by Zone or worldwide, to post here as well. - Ye Editor ============ FidoNet: Homepage http://www.fidonet.org FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML] http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII] WWW sources http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk/fido.html FTSC page http://www.goldware.dk/ftsc Echomail [MIA] WebRing http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html [TFN] General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html ============ Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/ Region 13: http://www.smalltalkband.com/st01000.htm Region 14: Region 15: Region 16: http://www.tiac.net/users/satins/region16.htm Region 17: http://www.portal.ca/~awalker/region17.htm Region 18: http://techstop.pdn.net/fido/ Region 19: http://www.compconn.net ============ Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org ZEC2: Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/z2_elist/ Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish) Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish) Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (in German) Region 25: http://www.trak-one.co.uk/net254 Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb FIDONEWS 15-18 Page 10 4 May 1998 Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (in French) Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (in Swiss?) 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