F I D O N E W S -- Vol.11 No.47 (21-Nov-1994) +----------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | A newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: | | FidoNet BBS community | "FidoNews" BBS | | _ | +1-519-570-4176 | | / \ | | | /|oo \ | Small animal psychology and | | (_| /_) | Spiritual guidance Department: | | _`@/_ \ _ | Rev. Richard Visage 1:163/409 | | | | \ \\ | | | | (*) | \ )) | Editors: | | |__U__| / \// | Donald Tees 1:221/192 | | _//|| _\ / | Sylvia Maxwell 1:221/194 | | (_/(_|(____/ | Tim | | (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. | | | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +----------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | Submission address: editors 1:1/23 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | MORE addresses: | | | | Don -- don@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca | | Sylvia -- max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca | | Tim Pozar -- pozar@kumr.lns.com | | David Deitch -- 1:133/411.411, deitch@gisatl.fidonet.org | | submissions=> editor@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | For information, copyrights, article submissions, | | obtaining copies of fidonews or the internet gateway faq | | please refer to the end of this file. | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ======================================================================== Table of Contents ======================================================================== 1. Editorial: e-culture....................................... 2 2. Articles...................................................... 3 FTS-0005 Nodelist Flag Additions............................ 3 Dear Reverend Visage,....................................... 3 The Problems in Zone 6's Net 700............................ 5 Fido in Sherbrooke,Quebec,Canada............................ 5 Clumsy and Rude FidoNews Formatting......................... 6 Fidonet Echomail Security and Policy........................ 7 From: Luke Kolin............................................ 10 Feedback/Article your pick.................................. 11 audio and/or visual 'alarm'................................. 12 3. Fidonews Information.......................................... 14 FidoNews 11-47 Page: 2 21 Nov 1994 ======================================================================== Editorial ======================================================================== some body ... ... ... ... ... some where ... ... ... ... ... told her to say, "NO!" ..................... ... like a li'l rebel, ... ... .............. like a li'l trouper. ... ... ... ... . On page seven is an article about Fidonet echomail security which elucidates the point of the satellite dish intrigue. Session Level Passwords! Session Level Passwords, rather than "which *C do i complain to?" An interesting consideration, dear Jesse Tharin, about how a screen reader makes some of fidonews sound garbled. However, i like ascii art, since it's the haiku of computer graphics. But then, i don't have to listen to everything through a screen reader. ? . i like the dog with the diskette logo. i like it so much that i'm _almost_ ready to get it tattooed on the inside of my ankle. AND there's an article on the nodelist. Nodelist articles. nod no del i suppose i should make file-requestable a readable-word text only fidonews file, but i've got to finish all the progects i'm already WAAAY late with before i take on more. projects, i meant. Perhaps i should wait to see if NT comes out with Andrew Freeman's reminder option, before i do anything ? office gossip: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Rev. Visage has apparently disappeared so i had to resort to Rune's Rag of 1:2601/522 to find him. But don't worry. i charged LD to his expensive account. ~ Ms. Labamba has been directed by Doc Logger towards zone 7 as a liason officer, to attempt to solve the mysterious question of the multiple *C's, but she has been waylaid during her journey and will be filing her report late. ~ Madam Emilia, aka the editrix has temporarily changed her origen line to "dominatrix", since there's another editrix doing "Aladrisa's Cauldron", at 1:221/221. Has anyone copyrighted an alias? Or a BBS name? ~ Q: if you pay all of your attention to e-culture do you have a body? A: what is more real: blood, or electrons ? Q: what's the dif ? FidoNews 11-47 Page: 3 21 Nov 1994 ======================================================================== Articles ======================================================================== FTS-0005 Nodelist Flag Additions George Peace FidoNet International Coordinator 1:1/1000 FidoNet Technical Standards Committee (FTSC) document FTS-0005 is 'The Distribution Nodelist'. That document defines the format and content of the Nodelist for the FidoNet Network. It also accommmodates interim or temporary changes to the document in order to reflect contemporary useage trends. Quoting from the current (5 Feb 89) document... "FTSC recognizes that the FidoNet International Coordinator is the ultimate authority over what appears in the FidoNet nodelist. Also, FTSC is by definition a deliberative body, and adding or changing a flag may take a considerable amount of time. Therefore, the FidoNet International Coordinator may temporarily make changes or additions to the flags as defined in this document. The FidoNet International Coordinator will then consult with FTSC over the changes needed to this document to reflect these temporary changes." Two 'U' or User flags have achieved widespread use in the FidoNet Nodelist over the past 12 month, reaching what can only be characterized as Standard Practice. As a result these two modem flags are now authorized for use without the 'U' prefix. VFC V.Fast Class V32T V.32 Terbo Although the protocols are each implemented by multiple manufacturers neither is an CCITT or ITU approved standard. They represent only base protocols in a manner similar to PEP or HST or ZYX. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Swamp Swine Magazine, Dynamo Hum School of Nunnery, Shuckmagosh, Ohio Dear Reverend Visage, I have just returned from the monthly net163 bunfest so you must forgive me if the ringing in my ears causes untoward effects upon my typing. Why is it, I wonder, that after five or ten double-malts, the decibel level of conversations FidoNews 11-47 Page: 4 21 Nov 1994 approaches pain thresholds? Your presence was missed, as usual, and even Annabelle wore her special eye-sparkles in hopes that you would arrive. She has promised to decorate hockey arenas with her poetry and I believe her. I fear that net250's recent Netwar will grace the pages of Sylvia & Don's esteemed organ. After last week's rampant bout of Quotaholism by Lesley-Dee, young Barry "Tourette's Poster Child" Carter has promised to add his insights to the issues. One hopes that he succeeds in writing more than one sentence without his traditional usage of the "F" word. I fear that you may have to investigate more railroad accidents when they discover that the inhabitants of the Metro Zoo have all been issued net250 nodenumbers. We are all still burning incense and sacrificing suitable quantities of wildlife, waiting for Bob Satti ( cue the squirrels. The squirrels? What kinda Biblical plague are squirrels?)... anyway, waiting for Bob Satti to issue his policy decision on the Lukester's banishment to the wilderness. Bob can be forgiven his tardiness since he recently had to participate in kicking someone upstairs into the ZEC position. The election was conducted by vote, followed by the throwing of appropriate Mah Jong pieces to select the winner. If we still have a tanker truck full of curare you might want to keep it handy in case the new ZEC follows the traditional downhill trajectory and starts insane ravings about the requirement for more policy. I note from the fact that you submitted a petty cash voucher for drycleaning Fawn Hall's underwear that you have been probably bending elbows with Ollie North again. Can't you just give Ollie a few John Denver eight-tracks and tell him to go away? We've got serious newts to deal with in the government and it would be an act of kindness if you could procure the ingredients from that MacBeth cooking recipe. I must go Visage, your secretary is out of sorts again, and this has really nothing at all to do with the fact that the walrus has taken station under her desk and has become amorous. I really think that as a good and decent gesture, we should send her to net700 where the cloacally challenged NC might find congress with her. Regards, Doc Logger Montana School of Kelp Ranching, Anaconda, Montana FidoNews 11-47 Page: 5 21 Nov 1994 The Problems in Zone 6's Net 700 by Patrick McCoy (FidoNet 1:153/974) Zone 6's Net 700 After reading about the plights of the "excommunicated" SysOps in Hong Kong, I feel that I must ask why this has been allowed to carry on for so long! As a ZC myself, I don't see why FidoNet Admin would needlessly stand-by and watch 600 nodes drop off the face of the nodelist, and not question the *Cs involved in it. Sure, I suppose that with the 35,248 nodes in Fido as of the last nodelist, I guess 600 nodes isn't really noticed ... but still! What of the plight of those SysOps? They worked and maintained Fido addresses for so long, to be terminated in one foul stroke. Even a "3 month" warning for new applications isn't justified IMHO as a good enough reason to allow such a purging. I don't profess to be an expert on this situation, I learned about this "problem" as some would call it, at the same time that everyone else did (about 3 FidoNewses ago). I also don't profess to be an expert on FidoPolicy, considering I probably look at Policy4 as much as I jump off bridges ... but I cannot believe that FidoNet would turn a blind eye to these 600 nodes that were there a few months ago, but now aren't ... if anything, I think a new NC for the net should be elected ... Fido is supposed to be a democracy last time I looked, or does that just count for the ZCs?!? In conclusion, I hope to see Net 700 running back up at full par in future. Enough babbling, time to get back to work ... just my 2 cents worth! ___ Patrick McCoy ___..---'---`---..___ SysOp: SFHQ .-=========================- _______________/ :.::.:.---..___..---~~~ (___________(_||_)_____/ /____/___:..::.:::.::/ Star Fleet HQ [1:153/974@FidoNet] \__________/ (604)584-5964 (14400bps - V.32/V.42BIS) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Francois Goulet (31:100/3080) Fido in Sherbrooke,Quebec,Canada. Hello! My name is Francois Goulet of Sherbrooke,and am not speek english. (Sorry).(Just a little little bit). FidoNews 11-47 Page: 6 21 Nov 1994 Voici pourquoi que j'ecrit ce message Pour nous qui sommes dans la Region de Sherbrooke,Quebec,Canada. La personne qui est responsable de la distribution du reseau FidoNet et qui se nomme Francois Menard,ne veut pas nous donner d'adresse pour FidoNet. Nous sommes quelques dizaines de BBS,qui voulons avoir une adresse et il n'y a pas moyen de rien faire avec cette personne la. Est-ce-qu'il y aurais un moyen quelconque,de lui faire savoir de votre part,que les adresse sont faites pour etre distribuer et qu'il doit les distribuer. Moi j'ai 5 reseau de messagerie sur mon BBS,et je voudrais faire entrer FidoNet mais il y a pas moyen a cause de cette personne. J'ai meme un reseau qui m'appartiend et qui se nomme SexNet Reseau de messagerie baser uniquement sur le sexe.Mais ce que je voudrais c'est un moyen d'avoir FidoNet,et ce sans passer par Francois Menard. Pouvez-vous regler notre probleme ? Merci Beaucoup! Alp! Francois Goulet 31:100/3080 Absolu 40:100/0 SexNet 93:190/4 SagNet 75:164/1160 E-LINK 79;250/12 SolutioNet ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Clumsy and Rude FidoNews Formatting Clumsy and Rude FidoNews Formatting by Jesse Tharin 1:300/7 I just read ARTSPEC.DOC, a guideline written three and a half years ago for this newsletter, an organ designed for line printers yet read nearly universally on screens. The specs jogged loose an old irritation about FidoNews. Both the specs and the rag need some changes. My particular bit of whining is a complaint about the abysmal formatting of our weekly reader. It's very pretty on paper since it has footers, boxes, page numbers, dotted index leaders, a pretty ASCII dog, and 94 lines of fat, verbose, egoistic, unchanging, unread boilerplate that ends the last page and a half of every issue. There are perhaps six people throughout the world who actually take the time to run this excessive prettyprinting off and admire how snazzy it looks, and I'd like to call on them now to stand up and be recognized. Hello? FidoNews 11-47 Page: 7 21 Nov 1994 Most of the rest of us (I won't speak for YOU, Babe) who read FidoNews scroll through it on screen, where footers, cute words made with asterisks, and other noises are ugly and distracting. More on the noise in the next paragraph. Some of us fools, aside from listing it as a downloadable file, make it available on our boards as some equivalent of a bulletin to be read straight, 24 or so lines at a time. Again, all the formatting is intrusive and a bit of a chore to remove for those of us with some pride in our boards. On line, a straight unformatted ASCII file is the only thing that makes sense to offer. I will admit that the little dog is cute. Once. The thing that really chaps my hide, though, is the ASCII "graphic" junk that the various authors think is so unbelievably snazzye. Little dudes and dudettes, some on bicycles, smiley faces enough to gag a little dude or dudette, wondrous capital letters made up of slashes, backslashes and parens, and that ubiquitous little dog. Many people, usually visually impaired to some degree, use screen readers, software and hardware that voices the screen out loud, as a way of translating the pixels into brain fodder. This pretty little box from ARTSPEC.DOC: +-------+ | A Box | +-------+ translates as "plus minus minus minus minus minus minus minus plus bar a box bar plus minus minus minus minus minus minus minus plus". A wonderful little graphic, eh? Throw in a footer in the middle of a sentence and the author's well-reasoned arguments tend to get muddled in the "noise". Another reason to curse that dog is this: just one representative line from the cute little thing reads: "bar open-paren underscore slash open-paren underscore bar open-paren underscore underscore underscore underscore slash bar TIM bar". See if you can find it! How about not being so passively rude to our blind readers? Fix the formatting; it isn't the least bit impressive and it almost always gets in the way in one way or another. Edit ARTSPEC.DOC to discourage ASCII "graphics" too. Get rid of all the beginning and ending boilerplate that only increases the noise-to-content ratio. Help us make up our minds when deciding whether or not to trash the thing. And make the cute little dog available on the anniversary issue only. Jesse Tharin Net 300 Blowhard 1:300/7 Tucson Arizona USA ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Fidonet Echomail Security and Policy Bill Dirks 1:385/17 Fidonet Echomail Security and Policy and Why It's Not Working FidoNews 11-47 Page: 8 21 Nov 1994 Let me begin by saying that I've always been happy with Fidonet overall. No matter what the arguments and problems have been in the past, I've always supported the net and its hierarchy. That is until recently. Starting about a month or so ago, a handful of people decided that certain echos were not worthwhile but their new echo was. To make this point, these same people have since rammed mail packets containing hundreds of messages containing, porn and virus code text into these echos in an effort to disrupt and discredit them. The known affected echos have been DIRTY_DOZEN, VIRUS, and VIRUS_INFO. Rumor control also has it a similar echo in another network has also fallen victim. Please keep one thing in mind while reading this. The affected echo moderators can't due anything because of apathy on the part of the *C & *EC structure currently in place. These folks are not backing up the moderators! Now here is where it gets interesting. The moderators of the affected echos have attempted to get the feeds cut to those ramming in the garbage. They've asked for excommunication of those doing this. Unfortunately, the _entire_ *C structure and *EC structure is aware of the problem but everyone keeps referring the decision to the ZC. This is because of the methods being used to create and introduce this mail leaves almost no proof short of a confession to prove who actually did it. The ZC while aware of who is actually doing the ramming has done nothing. He has been given as much proof as possible but still hasn't acted. Please write him asking why. It would be interesting to see what if anything is done. Anyway, I titled this article to talk about echomail security and will now present that portion as it pertains to this situation. In otherwords, lets talk about how anyone with bad intentions can disrupt and discredit any echo or system they want and have the *C structure do nothing. Step 1. From someone in the computer underground, get a program called Bogus. More on it in a moment. Step 2. Find a system anywhere in the nodelist that carries the echo you want to hit, preferably a hub. This is easy. Carry the echo yourself for about a week or so. Look at the path info on the messages and make a list. Now compare that to the nodelist. Step 3. After finding out the potential systems (echomail hub), find one of them that you can poll and send mail to that will also forward it. Naturally this is done using your mailer configured as if a legit node in the net you are going to use. This system will be one without a session password established. It will ideally not use passworded bundles either. Unfortunately, there are a lot of systems like this out there that are hubs. You can see the general idea here. It's not a lot of work. FidoNews 11-47 Page: 9 21 Nov 1994 Step 4. After finding the potential victim and their address we now use Bogus. Bogus will take the To, From, and Subject, of legit messages in the echo you have targetted and create custom messages given certain information. Bogus will then insert and create bogus messages with the content desired down to the binary header info of the system you want to fake and kludge line info. All is totally faked. Step 5. Send your bogus mail bundle to the unsecure echomail hub you found. That systems mailer software will now dutifully send it on its way since the bundle and messages are correct in all respects due to Bogus. You have done this anonymously from anywhere because you had your mailer software configured to act like node X's so it seems like a legit call. Now why did I tell everyone how to do this?? Well, this is so you can get a very good idea of the problems here. Anyone desiring to disrupt echomail can do it. It is being done and the *C structure will not act on reliable information to cut off the offending systems. You can see how hard this is to prove and that's why the offending systems get away with it. Once they ask the *C structure to prove the allegations, they can't. e.g. "their" mailer address didn't show in the log, etc. Remember, this is even after the *C structure receives reliable information from known trusted people and from disinterested parties that have nothing at stake in the matter. The solution to this entire problem is fairly simple. First, the entire *C and *EC structure need to give an order that no one wants to because it's not in Policy 4. They forget they can set local rules providing they don't conflict with policy. The following is reasonable and not excessively annoying. To the contrary, anyone not following the order would be because they open the network up to exploitation. That order is that anyone acting as an echomail hub in any respect will only do so only under the following conditions: A. A unique session password will be established between all nodes and the echomail hub or they can not pick up or send echomail from the echomail hub. All mailer software should be able to do this. B. To the extent possible, all nodes using mail packing and unpacking software that allows it, need to implement passworded mail bundles too. This is all that's required. This has been a big security hole in Fidonet and networks using Fido style mailers. Until recently, it has never posed a problem beyond the local level. The problem is now national and international in scope. Another problem here again lies with the *C structure dealing with these disruptive nodes. When they excommunicate a person or cut an echo feed after it has been proven what they are doing. They let the same people back into the network! Yup, the same NC's and RC's FidoNews 11-47 Page: 10 21 Nov 1994 that said you are persona non grata to satisfy the rest of the net allow the same people back in under different names and new address in the nodelist. In other cases, to satisfy the echo moderators request for a feed cut, the NC and or RC will simply give the node a new address and name and leave the feeds intact. To every rule there is an exception or two. This is a case where the ZC and the rest of the *C structure need to make those hard decisions. If they're not willing to, replacements should be found if they can't understand what is happening to the network and continue to let it happen. Before everyone falls asleep, let me point out the other disruptions caused by this handful of people. Several nets who have been the victims of these have had their reputations tarnished because most don't understand mail can be faked to the degree it can be. Individual nodes and users have been tarnished in these echos because people believe these people are posting the bogus messages. This is because the bogus message contains that persons legit origin line. Planet Connect (PC) mad a very unpopular decision in an effort to help curb the problem and caught untold grief. That was the decision to use NoBogus' dirty-word filter. The problem wasn't as wise spread when they did but they were forced to turn it back off and the problem appears again. Overall, this is a problem all everyone using Fidonet needs to be aware of. I don't condone censorship which some people may construe from this article. I do condone taking positive action against nodes that have been proven to be excessively annoying though. I urge you to write your *C structure, in particular the ZC to take action on this matter. He is aware of the problem and the perpetrators yet is not doing anything to resolve it except allow hundreds of bogus messages on an almost daily basis to disrupt echomail. Bill Dirks Safe Hex Central 1:385/17 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Luke Kolin (1:250/714) In case you decide to publish Barry's article, could you be so kind as to post this in the issue as well: "It has been drawn to my attention that a Mr. Barry Carter (250/888) will be posting a highly derogatory article about myself in this week's Snooze, in response to an article written about him last week by a third party. It alleges that I am a gay-basher and a thief. I have no desire whatsoever to engage in a shouting match with Mr. Carter in FidoNews. I consider his actions to be repugnant and they completely undermine any claims of concern for FidoNet's well-being FidoNews 11-47 Page: 11 21 Nov 1994 that he may have. I will address his accusations this far and no further: anyone interested in them may ask the people who should be most affected by Mr. Carter's accusations, the members of our EchoMail Cost Recovery Plan, and the gay sysops in Net 250. I am confident of their support." Luke --- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: James Ankuda (1:101/665) Feedback/Article your pick. Dear Editor Of Fidonews, You may put this in the newsletter if you like, or just take it as I put it out. Or, you can edit it in any fashion you choose including correcting my spelling. 8*) Anyhow, this is in regards to your statement in Fidonews editorial Vol. 11 No. 46, where you state: " I do not know about the rest of you, but I am tempted at times to just say anything that quotes echomail is cut. The articles that are nothing more than a bunch of mail quotations are invariably long, disjointed, and nearly unreadable unless one is a participant. (Probably then as well). " I must say I had really no idea WHAT you were talking about, or what would cause you to write this, as usually something does cause you to make statements like this. I tend to read your Editorial before reading anything else, and I also tend to skip right to anything you find interesting enough to mention in your editorial. Anyhow, I proceeded thru your newsletter and found an article where it seems just two people calling each other names and arguing about IN CHARGE type stuff. I then got your point, and agree with you, this type of arguing, has taken up bandwidth on Fidonet enough already, and then to be copied into your newsletter seems like a big waste to me. Now, if either Idividual wanted to actually write an article about why or how they were screwed and what they think should be done about it, that would be a good idea. I too am getting tired of the same old "IN CHARGE" type complaints etc. I call them IN CHARGE, because it seems to be this big struggle to run Fidonet. To me this Network is about sharing information and allowing communication over long distances at a very low cost if not anything at all. I really enjoy my Echo Coordinator and think as long as he's happy I am. Sure, sometimes he takes awhile to get my nodes right in the nodelist, or he doesn't send me a .diff ontime. So what? I'm still able to get my echos and he has never told me "your not FidoNews 11-47 Page: 12 21 Nov 1994 important". My Echo Coordinator is Stephen Mcrae at 1:101/336.0 and if anyone needs lessons about how to be nice, try asking Stephen for some advice! Anyhow, I would like to mention at the end here that I think Fidonet needs to stay away from people making Money from it! And as long as places like Planet Connect don't run Fidonet I don't care who does. James Ankuda 1:101/665.0 --- Dyslexics of the world, untie! --- CNet/3 * Origin: Crazy Coota's BBS (1:101/665) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrew Freeman (3:620/243) ATTENTION: Editors, Fidonews 18 November 1994 SENDER: Andrew Freeman Electronic mail (from anywhere in the world): Fidonet: Andrew Freeman at 3:620/243 E-mail: Andrew.Freeman@pcug.cbr.fidonet.org I recently wrote to Microsoft about the need for a reminder option in Windows 95. I feel that this matter is of interest to BBS users, in a context where many spend long periods of time on their computers. I would encourage others who agree with my suggestion to communicate their support to Windows 95 development team at Microsoft headquarters: Microsoft Corporation, One Microsoft Way, Redmond, WA 98052-6399, USA. Tele: +1 (206) 936-8661 Fax: +1 (206) 93 MS FAX or via the local subsidiary you normally deal with, with a request that they pass on your communication to the corporate headquarters of the company. "I recently purchased DOS version 6.2 for my home computer. I note that it does not have a reminder option in it. I would appreciate it if Microsoft could include a reminder option in Windows95 ("Chicago"). A reminder option includes the following sorts of features: an audio and/or visual 'alarm' after a time period set by the user (for example, after 15 minutes) - you should have the option FidoNews 11-47 Page: 13 21 Nov 1994 for audio and visual prompting separately (one or the other), and both; * the option to repeat, renew or cancel the reminder period (for example, option to be reminded again in 15 minutes, not be reminded in 15 minutes, or to change the period) * a message displayed after that period, in a format set by the user (for example, 'Rest'). Such an option is easy to include in the software (I suggest you include as an enhancement in the calendar software which you already have in Windows), and will make the software upgrade option more attractive for employers who already use Windows and who are concerned about minimising Repetition Strain Injury amongst its employees, and to home users as well. It will also have the advantage for Microsoft of showing corporate responsibility in this regard. My employer recently paid nearly $100 (Australian) to put similar software on the computer system I use at work (which has Windows on it, but not the above option). The software could be enhanced with possible exercises being displayed after the fixed time period, with an appropriate disclaimer that before using any of them a user should consult his/her own doctor, but this is not essential to my proposal - given the limited time before Windows95 is to be released, I suggest you just start with the basic proposal I put above, and sell initially purely as an enhancement to the calendar option in Windows, rather than as an aid in preventing Repetition Strain Injury (RSI) . You could fund ergonomic experts to study how helpful it is as a prevention to RSI over the next couple of years, and publicise their results as appropriate. I specifically disclaim any responsibility for this suggestion should Microsoft decide to implement, in a context where I do not have expertise in the issue of software design or ergonomics. I am putting it forward purely as a user of Microsoft software. I suggest Microsoft obtain expert advice before implementation. I would be happy to assist Microsoft to consider this option further, should Microsoft request this. In any event, I would appreciate advice from Microsoft on what action it proposes to take on this suggestion." Andrew Freeman --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 FidoNews 11-47 Page: 14 21 Nov 1994 ======================================================================== Fidonews Information ======================================================================== ------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ---------------- Dominatrix: Madam Emilia Editors: Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar Tom Jennings "FidoNews" BBS FidoNet 1:1/23 BBS +1-519-570-4176, 300/1200/2400/14400/V.32bis/HST(DS) more addresses: Rev. Richard Visage -- 1:163/409 Don -- 1:221/192, don@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca sylvia -- 1:221/194, max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca Tim -- pozar@kumr.lns.com (Postal Service mailing address) FidoNews 128 Church St. Kitchener, Ontario Canada N2H 2S4 max & Don voice: (519) 570-3137 Fidonews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system. 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"the pulse of the cursor is the heartbeat of fidonet"... -- END ----------------------------------------------------------------------