F I D O N E W S -- Vol.10 No.17 (26-Apr-1993) +----------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | A newsletter of the | | | FidoNet BBS community | Published by: | | _ | | | / \ | "FidoNews" BBS | | /|oo \ | +1-519-570-4176 1:1/23 | | (_| /_) | | | _`@/_ \ _ | Editors: | | | | \ \\ | Sylvia Maxwell 1:221/194 | | | (*) | \ )) | Donald Tees 1:221/192 | | |__U__| / \// | Tim Pozar 1:125/555 | | _//|| _\ / | | | (_/(_|(____/ | | | (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. | | | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +----------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | Submission address: editors 1:1/23 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Internet addresses: | | | | Sylvia -- max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca | | Donald -- donald@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca | | Tim -- pozar@kumr.lns.com | | Both Don & Sylvia (submission address) | | editor@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | For information, copyrights, article submissions, | | obtaining copies and other boring but important details, | | please refer to the end of this file. | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ======================================================================== Table of Contents ======================================================================== 1. Editorial..................................................... 2 2. Articles...................................................... 3 The Cynic's Sandbox, v2.3- [Unregistered.].................. 3 Response to LuxCon '93 Article in FNEWSA15.................. 4 Tabulation of FidoNet Nodes by Country...................... 7 SPEED READ v1.30 RELEASED *................................. 8 Re: policy (as always)...................................... 10 New Echo: MINI-PAINT........................................ 11 Fido to internet............................................ 11 NET 106 COMPASSION SHINES................................... 13 3. Fidonews Information.......................................... 14 FidoNews 10-17 Page: 2 26 Apr 1993 ======================================================================== Editorial ======================================================================== There are lots of odds and ends for this editorial. First of all, we want to mention the Cynic's Sandbox, now in it's fourth week. I have always felt that a humour column would be nice to have in the snooze, and it was great to get a volunteer. Anybody wanting to correspond to the Cynic can address mail here (1:1/23), and we will forward it. I am sure that suggestions for articles would be more than welcome. Speaking of forwarding mail, there is a "name withheld by request" article in this issue. Anybody wanting to get through to the author can use this address as a mail drop. We will forward it. We got routed netmail claiming to have a file attached on Monday. The file (FNEWS.SUB) never arrived. The address that was used was not in the nodelist, so we could not respond. I am presuming that the article was not delivered for the same reason. If the author would like it printed, please send it again, preferably from a listed node. Otherwise crash it. We are both finding it interesting how mail comes in through the door. The "fringe" people tend to address it to Sylvia. The "political" types tend to address it to Donald. We have deliberately never let it be known just who writes these editorials (and have received letters demanding that we do, addressed to Donald, but never to Sylvia). It can remain one of life's little mysteries. We have started to work on a specification for newsletters. It would replace not only ARTSPEC.DOC, but also provide a framework for distributing a newsletter so that it could easily be imported into a door, or pseudo-echo. Anybody interested, please drop us a line. Last but not least, we received a letter this week expressing fatigue with the Gandhi quotation at the end of the snooze. That is a matter that I can relate to, though I also feel that it has become traditional enough not to mess with it. Any thoughts out there? We have considered a tagline contest, with the winners being used on successive weeks ... but PLEASE do not start sending me taglines. It is an idea, nothing more. And maybe it should be left alone. We await replies with great anticipation. FidoNews 10-17 Page: 3 26 Apr 1993 ======================================================================== Articles ======================================================================== The Cynic's Sandbox, v2.3- [Unregistered.] R. Cynic Fight-O-Net LIVES on Echos, you know. 'Tweren't for them, Fight-O-Netters might have to flame people in their home town. That gets kinda dangerous. It's much easier to call someone a commie-lovin' boot-lickin' pencil-necked geek when they're a good thousand miles away. I ain't complaining - I'm encouraging it! In the spirit of finding new places to say things you just wouldn't say in public, here's a couple new echos in the "SIP" Survival-in-progress tradition. New Echo announcement! SIP_REDNECK Are you a god-fearin' real American whose basic rights to get plastered, marry your sister, and shoot things have been infringed upon? Are you tired of "modern women" and them commie pinkos who wanna let ho-mo-sex-uALs into our great army? Do them danged "environmentalists" just make you ragin' mad? SIP_REDNECK is for you. We're here to let you know that it's OK to be yourself. Not with any sissy encounter groups, mind you. Our program is a man's 12-step program, you bet. Heck, we like to call it a 12-gauge program on account of you get to shoot things with one. Aliases are encouraged, just so long as they sound MANLY. No sissy names here. 'Fact, if you ain't named Joe Bob, Bubba, or Junior, there ain't much room for ya. For a feed (And it's GOOD eatin'), drop us a line. Hear? Joe Bob Bubba Junior SIP_SYSOP Two hours ago, you decided to fix this last little problem with 1200 baud connects. Now, you're a raving lunatic who's just bitten through his modem cord and is eyeing your dog with thoughts of revenge on SOMETHING named Fight-O. You need help. People you can talk to. People who UNDERSTAND what it feels like at 3 in the morning when national mail hour has come and gone and you're struggling with your unregistered copy of Frontdoor in a vain attempt to make the thing dial your hub. You need someone to yell at because Caller*ID is so much less then you'd thought. Because your mom is going to take your phone line away. Because the feds might know about your "elite" section and your 3rd grade teacher has just logged on and asked for access to the adult area you've stocked with the FidoNews 10-17 Page: 4 26 Apr 1993 rauchiest GIFs you could find. You need the kind of well-intentioned psycho-babble that Fight-O-Net is so happy to provide. You need SIP_SYSOP. Pick it up now. SIP_LEECH It's tough being a leech. After a while, even your gigantic hard drive gets filled up with programs you've never registered or even decompressed. The whine of a high speed connect doesn't seem to excite as much as it used to. You need the support of others. Others that can understand why you simply must have everything. SIP_LEECHers support eachother. Someday, we hope to force all sysops to provide one command that transfers every file on their drives to yours. Imagine the savings in typing alone! SIP_LEECH. Backbone status invertebrate. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Response to LuxCon '93 Article in FNEWSA15 Name withheld by request "NON-Con" My first thought at seeing the news of a Fido convention in Luxemburg was that Joaquim Homrighausen was definitely going to be there. Sure enough, there's his name on the list of convention organizers. Next up we have the date of the convention. July 4th Weekend. Good time for conventions, since almost everyone has vacation at that time. Everyone in America, that is. But it's less than three months away. Isn't that awfully short notice for a convention like this? Then we have the location. The HOTEL SAINT NICHOLAS, a "four star hotel". The description: "SAINT NICOLAS is a Best Western Hotel with everything that is to be expected of a four-star Hotel". Ahem. Best Western is the equivalent of a Holiday Inn with delusions of Grandeur. A cut above the normal motor lodge, but certainly NOT a four-star hotel. Next on the agenda is, er, the AGENDA. :-) On Friday, we have three hours of checking in, and two hours of dinner. Boy, Friday went by fast. Then on Saturday, we have two hours of breakfast, two and a half hours of "product presentations and other sessions" (see below), an hour and a half for lunch (hey, what if it normally takes me two hours to eat?), another four hours of political and technical discussions, and then two hours for dinner and a raffle (oh boy!). On Sunday, we have a two hour breakfast, followed by two hours of kicking everyone out on the street so they don't get to have lunch, wrapped up by the annual hard disk throwing contest. Boy, what a busy weekend. Let's look at this - 9.5 hours of eating, and 8.5 hours of events - two of which are spent throwing around computer equipment, excluding FidoNews 10-17 Page: 5 26 Apr 1993 whatever gets thrown around during the "political" discussions. Now we get to the good stuff. From the article: > We are currently looking for speakers (political and technical) > for the sessions and companies to sponsor the prices given away > during the Saturday evening raffle ("lottery") and the harddisk > throwing contest. Let me get this straight. The convention is less than three months away as I write this, and there aren't even any speakers or sponsors yet. As for the "prices" being given away, how costly are they? > Several activities are available to those who do not wish to take > part in the sessions. At least there are alternatives for people who travel to Luxemburg and find they are not interested in the convention (although why I'd travel halfway around the world to stay at a motor lodge when there's one half a mile from my house completely escapes me...) >TRAVEL DIRECTIONS > To be announced as we go along.. watch this space. > Plane > Train > Car You know, I saw that movie starring Steve Martin and John Candy, and frankly, I don't relish the idea at all. And NO, those aren't pillows. Less than three months to go, and not even the people running it know how to get there. > PARTICIPATION FEE > The participation fee is LUF 5500.-, wich covers the sessions, > conference literature, all meals from Friday evening to Sunday > morning (inclusive), an official LuxCon/EuroCon '93 t-shirt, > two nights in a double room (double occupancy) at the Hotel. Nowhere in the article are rates of conversion mentioned - such as to US dollars. I called up my bank, and asked them about foreign currency exchange rates. They directed me to a currency exchange brokerage firm. The lady I spoke to was very helpful, and told me that the current rate of exchange on Luxemburg Francs to US Dollars is 30 to the Dollar. That's 3 1/3 cents. Which means the cost of this little shindig is about $150.00 US. Only 150 dollars for a trade convention? Exsqueeze me? Baking powder? Most of the Fido cons usually run into the multiple hundreds. Then again, they're usually here in the US at more expensive hotels, and they already have a complete schedule, sponsors, and events that span all three days of the convention. You get to spend a lot more time actually doing something FidoNews 10-17 Page: 6 26 Apr 1993 other than eating. Let's break this down. The average cost for a Holiday Inn in a major US city, is around 80-100 dollars per night for a double occupancy. According to the convention rates, single occupancy for two nights' stay is 1000 LUF, or $33.33. That's very inexpensive for a "four-star" hotel. Here in the US, those rates can only be seen in flop-houses or motels that charge by the hour (clean sheets are extra). If three people share the room, it's only $16.67 each. For the conference itself, without the hotel, it's $116.67. That would seem fair, except for the fact that there are currently no sponsors, no real events, and only 8.5 hours of it. Well, it does include the Saturday lunch, but considering the low hotel rates, I doubt that would be more than 10 bucks. Late registration is 25 bucks. That seems about right. With that kind of money, however, finding speakers to attend is going to be difficult. For one thing, the convention is only a few months away, and for another, there's not enough money to pay for bringing them to the convention and paying for their airfare, hotel and meals. Any speaker who goes to this convention will be paying most of his expenses out of pocket, and overseas airfare to Europe is very expensive. Most convention guests and speakers turn down such conventions if they find out that they have to pay for everything themselves. And how do we pay for this convention, I hear you ask. Simple. Go to your bank, and have the funds transferred to Joaquim Homrighausen's private bank account. Every convention I've ever seen, including the little rinky-dink cons run by college kids and held in a student union building have a business account that accepts credit cards, money orders, and checks. Sorry folks, but I wouldn't trust any convention that wants me to pay for it by making a direct deposit into someone's personal bank account. Because if something goes wrong with the con and you can't make it, you can't stop payment on a check or a credit card charge. The moment you make the transaction at the bank, your money is spent. It's up to you, of course. With the tenuous existence of the convention as it currently stands with no real scheduled speakers, sponsors, or financial backing, it's akin to putting your life savings on "Glue Factory" to win in the third race. What really sticks in my craw is the fact that it's Joaquim Homrighausen's personal bank account. Over the past year I've heard too many rumors about bad financial dealings with Joho. I don't know if any of them are true. I personally don't care. But when there are so many people up in arms about it (those of you who have participated in the FDECHO conference for over a year know what I'm talking about), I really have to give a good hard think about putting my money into his personal bank account. Caveat Emptor: "Let the buyer beware". What's the Latin phrase for "Let the buyer run screaming for his life"? FidoNews 10-17 Page: 7 26 Apr 1993 Tabulation of FidoNet Nodes by Country Don Daniels 1:107/210 I happened to have these numbers and thought that some of you might also find them to be of interest. The following list totals, by country or territory, the number of nodes in the April 16, 1993 Nodelist. Duplicate phone number entries have been removed. For comparison's sake, the totals are also provided from the nodelist of January 22, 1989. TABULATION OF FIDONET NODES BY COUNTRY 93/04/16 89/01/22 NO. OF COUNTRY OR NO. OF NODES TERRITORY NODES 10335 - United States 3003 1884 - Germany 88 1878 - Canada 423 768 - Australia 178 725 - Netherlands 201 582 - United Kingdom 147 550 - Sweden 109 440 - Russia * 433 - Hong Kong 45 328 - Italy 79 303 - Denmark 51 241 - Taiwan 42 205 - Belgium 28 174 - Finland 96 165 - Ukraine 140 - Spain 15 139 - Brazil 136 - New Zealand 6 123 - Switzerland 28 119 - Singapore 23 116 - Austria 14 100 - Argentina 27 86 - Czech Republic * 82 - South Africa 19 64 - France 6 63 - Israel 17 49 - Portugal 1 44 - Greece 41 - Bulgaria 37 - Yugoslavia * 36 - Poland 36 - Philippines 33 - Slovakia 29 - Hungary 26 - Japan FidoNews 10-17 Page: 8 26 Apr 1993 25 - Luxembourg 24 - Estonia 22 - Puerto Rico 8 19 - Belorussia 17 - Latvia 16 - Norway 13 16 - Thailand 3 15 - Moldavia 13 - Malaysia 12 13 - Mexico 1 12 - Chile 12 - Guam 12 - Panama 11 - Korea 11 - Macau 1 10 - Turkey 9 - Ireland 1 8 - Georgia 8 - Uruguay 8 - Uzbekistan 4 - Iceland 4 - Okinawa 3 - Kenya 2 - Crimea 2 - Greenland 2 - Tadgikistan 2 - Virgin Islands 1 - Aruba 1 - Bermuda 1 - Botswana 1 1 - Dominican Republic 1 - Ethiopia 1 - India 1 - Mauritius 1 - Peru 1 - Romania 1 - Senegal 1 - Tunisia 1 - Uganda 1 - Zambia 1 - Zimbabwe 0 - Indonesia 14 0 - Venezuela 3 0 - Suriname 1 ======== ======= 20,708 4,704 * Marked names may include multiple countries ---------------------------------------------------------------------- SPEED READ v1.30 RELEASED * Contact: Jim Smith Internet: jim.smith@the-matrix.com FidoNews 10-17 Page: 9 26 Apr 1993 April 22, 1993: Jim Smith, author of SPEED READ and SEdit, announced the release of SPEED READ version 1.30 today. SPEED is a QWK compatible offline message base manager. SPEED treats offline reading much like a BBS. It allows the user to specify a number of old messages to keep in each conference and each new packet updates the message base. This gives the user seamless access to old messages while reading new ones. Speed v1.0 was released in November of 1991. Since then, Jim Smith has become well known for his dedicated user support and consistent update work. This release follows closely Jim's March 1993 releas of v1.0 of a text editor called SEdit, designed for small tasks like message writing. Like SEdit, Speed is a shareware product, and the registration cost is $25. Registered users of SEdit and those who register both products at the same time receive a 20% discount. New features in v1.30 include: - Wide/long message support and the ability to handle long/wide replies! Messages/replies can be: * Up to 32,000 bytes. * Up to 1,000 lines. * Up to 32,000 columns. - User-defined keyboard macros, with descriptions. - Ability to attach files to messages when using doors that support this feature, and the ability to request files attached to a message. - Carbon Copies. - Ability to forward a message. - Symbolic Language Toggle to help filter high-bit ASCII characters from the read message screen. - Totally rewritten sorting routines. They are *MUCH* faster. - Configurable default sort option. - Support for PostLink networking software. - Stripping of "RE:" and "(R)" prefixes from subject lines. - Ability to search for multiple strings. - Word wrap toggle key to wrap long lines while reading messages. - New status bar displays row/col information, number of lines in the message and the number of unread messages in the active conference. - Option to choose between new SPAWNO code and old SWAP code when swapping SPEED out to run an external application. - The BBS window displays the number of unread personal messages for each BBS. - Automatic copying of SESSION.TXT to the message base directory during an import; it can be viewed from the conference window. - User-defined page breaks and reply message lenths. - Toggle to display "[SPEED]" when shelled to DOS. - Header information is no longer included when editing a reply for compatability with Tag Line eXpress. - Toggle to filter lines beginning with CTRL-A ' FidoNews 10-17 Page: 10 26 Apr 1993 Re: policy (as always) scot art 3:712/634 RATIFIED by a Quorum of the Politburo, Fidonet General Congress of the Supreme Soviet, Democratic Central Planning Committee and Forced Collectivisation Bureau, with the permission of joint DoD/CIA Latin American Foreign Policy Unit, in secret session as directed by Col O.North on this day, April 1st 1993. PROCLAIMED BY His Excellency El Presidente R.Murdoch, Self-Appointed Guardian of Democracy, Moral Virtue, and Media Relations on this day and by His Offical Seal, 5 pm 1st April 1993. Now for something completely serious - my proposal for a 5 point simplified english and generally enlightening fidonet policy: 1: Fidonet is a not-for-profit community of people interested in open, widely available, and non-discriminatory communication for the minimum cost possible. 2: The cardinal sins are to be excessively annoying, and to be excessively annoyed. Preventing item (1) from occurring is regarded as overly excessively annoying. Breaches of the other items in this policy are regarded as normally excessively annoying. 3: Communications originating in fidonet must be in compliance with the spirit and letter of this policy, and non-commercial in nature. Communications should also be in accordance with the various laws of at least the nation of origination. Please note this is not a endorsement on the part of Fidonet of any particular nation or set of national laws, but a reflection on the reality of getting busted by the cops and the fact that most laws fulfil at least =some= useful social function. 4: Membership of fidonet is open to any person who operates a telecommunications system which is available for inbound fidonet communications during their designated geographical mail hour. Members must also fulfil the minimum requirement of being able to communicate with other fidonet members in a rational manner in accordance with this policy. 5: Operators of fidonet systems open to the public's use have both the right and responsibility of supplying and regulating access to fidonet communication. Fidonet members are personally responsible for all communications entering fidonet from their system, particularly their compliance or not with this policy. thanks, scot@asstdc.oz.au scot art 3:712/634 PS to all those who want a complex electoral system for choosing FidoNews 10-17 Page: 11 26 Apr 1993 our mail handlers and dispute settlers embedded into policy, please define exactly what you mean by "democracy", how voting achieves it, and how this so-called "democracy" fixes our problems. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- New Echo: MINI-PAINT Steve Lamb, 1:203/1369.0 I'm starting a new echo dedicated to the discussion of "lead" miniatures common to today's RPGs. However, they need not be from and RPG or made of lead. We'll talk about the miniatures themselves, what paints to use to paint them, what to use to paint them, and other such oddities. In the future, if there is interest, other resin and vinyl models may be included. If you are interested in participating in this echo feel free to send netmail to me, Steve Lamb, at 1:203/1369. The tag is MINI-PAINT and I'll add you on as soon as I read the message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Benjy Arnold (2:254/1.3) Fido to internet Hi there! This is a file which I reply with whenever anyone asks for information concerning fidonet to internet... how about it for FidoNews? Benjy [ - - - - - - - - T e a r H e r e - - - - - - - - ] FidoNet to InterNet - The Answers This is a very asked question within the realms of Communications echoes within FidoNet, and so this is an explantion of the method for transfer of messages from one system to the other. The system which is used is called UUCP (UNIX to UNIX Copy Program I think). Sending a message from FidoNet to InterNet The first stage is locating a gateway system which can transfer (or gate) the messages from one system to the other. These are systems which have the string "GUUCP" within their nodelist entry. The primary gateway system within the world is located on Bink of an Aye BBS in the USA - address 1:105/42. To send the message, simply send a netmail message addressed to user "UUCP" at this address, with a normal subject line. Then, type on the first line of the message FidoNews 10-17 Page: 12 26 Apr 1993 To: aaa.bbb@ccc.ddd.eee.fff Where the aaa.bbb@ccc.ddd.eee.fff is the InterNet address to which you are sending the message. This should be followed by a blank line, and then the text of the message. It is important to note that the addresses must be organised with small end first. This means that in the UK, for example, the ".UK" is the last part of the address, instead of placing "UK." as the first parts after the "@" character. Sending a message from InterNet to FidoNet This process is even easier. The first stage is to create an InterNet-type address out of your FidoNet reference. The basic method is to make the address like this (non case-sensitive). Firstname.Surname@Ppoint.Fnode.Nnet.Zzone.FIDONET.ORG To explain this better, I'll go through the splitting up of my reference. First Name Benjy Second Name Arnold Zone 2 Network 254 Node 1 Point 3 This then becomes Benjy.Arnold@p3.f1.n254.z2.fidonet.org (The "P3." part is only needed if you are on a point system.) Then, simply post a message on InterNet addressed to this address. It will be picked up at FidoNet address 1:105/42, and then sent by routed netmail to you on FidoNet. FidoUK There is a gateway system in the UK located on Barney's Rubble BBS, address 2:253/153. The correct alias, for UUCP access however, is 2:25/25. To go from FidoNet to InterNet, the message is sent in exactly the same way, except to "UUCP" at 2:25/25 instead of 1:105/42. To route messages from InterNet to FidoNet via this gateway, however, you must place "fidouk.fidonet.org" on the end of the InterNet address, instead of just "fidonet.org". NB: At the time of writing, 16 April 1993, this gateway system is down due to (I think) the Sysop moving house. Other Information I have a large amount of other information - such as book titles etc - concerning this inter-domain gating. Please netmail me if necessary. FidoNews 10-17 Page: 13 26 Apr 1993 FidoNet : Benjy Arnold at 2:254/1.3 InterNet : benjy.arnold@p3.f1.n254.z2.fidouk.fidonet.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- NET 106 COMPASSION SHINES By Mike Griffin NET 106 Helps Fellow SysOps As I thought about the disaster that happened to a couple who ran a popular BBS in the NET 106 area, I had to look at my family, my surroundings, my life and my kingdom and imagine what it would be like to loose everything I had with the exception of my family. It is a scary thought when you think about a raging fire that could, in an instant, destroy everything you worked so had for. Lisa and Gary Jackson were totally wiped out when a fire destroyed their Conroe Texas home. As the fire department arrived, the fire had taken it's toll on their 3 bedroom mobile home and totally burned it to the frame. Nothing survived the fire except Lisa, Gary and their two twin sons. The only personal items they had were the clothes on their backs. I still get chills when I think about that happening to me. Lisa and Gary were members of FIDO and ran a very popular BBS called CSI Online in the Conroe/Houston area. They were very active in several local echos and even hubbed a few locals that were really popular. Their BBS was one of the best in Conroe and also allowed users who were long distance to Houston the opportunity to converse with Houston users because they had a Houston line installed. They were a distributor for NET 106 to Conroe BBS's that were long distance to the NET 106 Hub. We were shocked to hear the news of such a tragedy within the net and a few of us came up with some ideas. There were several FIDO members who instantly made contributions of clothing, food and money to help them get their feet back on the ground. I was amazed at the response by FIDO net members in the 106 area who were giving time, money and other things at such a fast rate. It wasn't no time at all and they were starting to get things back in order. We still needed to give them a boost. Something that would give them a boost mentally as well as financially. Thus the CSI BBQ Benefit was born. Several of us within NET 106 decided to get together and hold a BBQ Benefit for the Jacksons. Several weeks of planning produced one of the best NET get togethers of all time. We had the BBQ catered by a friend and charged 10.00 a plate for adults and 5.00 a plate for children. We had live music provided by Angie Beck and Tejas, in which Gary plays lead guitar for Tejas. There were pinatas for the kiddies and lots of good time and cheer to be passed around. Several NET 106 sysops donated spare computer parts and some of the user community donated other items and we had an auction. The purpose was met as we did raise money for the Jacksons and a couple of NET 106 sysops even wanted to lend out hardware to get them back online again. We had a local radio FidoNews 10-17 Page: 14 26 Apr 1993 celebrity from KLDE show up. (CSI started a local echo for open discussion with the KLDE DJ.) The afternoon was a great opportunity for all of us to show that we do care and are willing to help each other out when we are in need. I am truly proud to be a part of NET 106. The compassion within this net goes above and beyond any that I have ever seen in any other organization. Sysops are real people and I think NET 106 has the best! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ======================================================================== Fidonews Information ======================================================================== ------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ---------------- Editors: Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees, Tim Pozar Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince Perriello, Tom Jennings IMPORTANT NOTE: The FidoNet address of the FidoNews BBS has been changed!!! Please make a note of this. "FidoNews" BBS FidoNet 1:1/23 <---- NEW ADDRESS!!!! BBS +1-519-570-4176, 300/1200/2400/14200/V.32bis/HST(DS) Internet addresses: Don & Sylvia (submission address) editor@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca Sylvia -- max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca Donald -- donald@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca Tim -- pozar@kumr.lns.com (Postal Service mailing address) (have extreme patience) FidoNews 172 Duke St. E. Kitchener, Ontario Canada N2H 1A7 Published weekly by and for the members of the FidoNet international amateur electronic mail system. It is a compilation of individual articles contributed by their authors or their authorized agents. The contribution of articles to this compilation does not diminish the rights of the authors. Opinions expressed in these articles are those of the authors and not necessarily those of FidoNews. Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is copyright 1993 Sylvia Maxwell. All rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or FidoNews (we're easy). FidoNews 10-17 Page: 15 26 Apr 1993 OBTAINING COPIES: The-most-recent-issue-ONLY of FidoNews in electronic form may be obtained from the FidoNews BBS via manual download or Wazoo FileRequest, or from various sites in the FidoNet and Internet. PRINTED COPIES may be obtained from Fido Software for $10.00US each PostPaid First Class within North America, or $13.00US elsewhere, mailed Air Mail. (US funds drawn upon a US bank only.) BACK ISSUES: Available from FidoNet nodes 1:102/138, 1:216/21, 1:125/1212, (and probably others), via filerequest or download (consult a recent nodelist for phone numbers). A very nice index to the Tables of Contents to all FidoNews volumes can be filerequested from 1:396/1 or 1:216/21. The name(s) to request are FNEWSxTC.ZIP, where 'x' is the volume number; 1=1984, 2=1985... through 8=1991. INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via FTP from ftp.ieee.org, in directory ~ftp/pub/fidonet/fidonews. If you have questions regarding FidoNet, please direct them to deitch@gisatl.fidonet.org, not the FidoNews BBS. (Be kind and patient; David Deitch is generously volunteering to handle FidoNet/Internet questions.) SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews BBS, or Wazoo filerequestable from 1:1/23 as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". Please read it. "Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered trademarks of Tom Jennings, Box 77731, San Francisco CA 94107, USA and are used with permission. Asked what he thought of Western civilization, M.K. Gandhi said, "I think it would be an excellent idea". -- END ----------------------------------------------------------------------