F I D O N E W S -- | Vol. 9 No. 19 (11 May 1992) The newsletter of the | FidoNet BBS community | Published by: _ | / \ | "FidoNews" BBS /|oo \ | (415)-863-2739 (_| /_) | FidoNet 1:1/1 _`@/_ \ _ | Internet: | | \ \\ | fidonews@fidonews.fidonet.org | (*) | \ )) | |__U__| / \// | Editors: _//|| _\ / | Tom Jennings (_/(_|(____/ | Tim Pozar (jm) | ----------------------------+--------------------------------------- Published weekly by and for the Members of the FidoNet international amateur network. Copyright 1992, Fido Software. All rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances, please contact FidoNews. Paper price: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $5.00US Electronic Price: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . free! For more information about FidoNews refer to the end of this file. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Table of Contents 1. EDITORIAL ..................................................... 1 Editorial: Whatever ........................................... 1 2. ARTICLES ...................................................... 5 Response to the situation of Ann Ioannides of 1:135/54 ........ 5 INTERUSER, cont'd ............................................. 8 INTERUSER, cont'd ............................................. 8 Willfull creation of a local black hole ....................... 9 FidoCon Bidding Process Unfair ................................ 10 RUSH_FAN Echo Revisited ....................................... 11 3. LATEST VERSIONS ............................................... 12 Software List ................................................. 12 4. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .......................................... 18 FidoNews 9-19 Page 1 11 May 1992 ====================================================================== EDITORIAL ====================================================================== Editorial: Whatever by Tom Jennings (1:1/1) Last week I made no mention of the post-verdict rebellion in Los Angeles. It was too immediate to comment on. You are hereby warned -- the following paragraphs are my take on it. Skip this if you don't like it. It was a rebellion, not merely a "riot". Poor people rebelled; many of the poor people there were black. It is not a cooincidence that black people are the poor ones. This has been enforced by whatever means are necessary and at hand. Racism by itself is not "it" -- if black people were economically on equal footing racism would not be very powerful. Media is trying to reduce this "event" to "racism". It is class warfare. According to the New York Times (Apr 92) "1% of the US hase more economic resources than the lower 90%". Only ten years before, it was 10% (instead of 1%). Cooincidence? It did not start on April 29th. It is not over now. Or as local columnist Herb Caen said, Bush is wrong: it wasn't "liberal welfare policies" that started this; it was that damn Abe Lincoln with his Emancipation Proclamation. (That is irony, don't flame me). You figure out the implications. Observations that "those (four?) black guys beating that truck driver is the same as/just as bad as/ those cops" beating Rodney King is racist bullshit (not having thought it out is no excuse). They were damn criminals -- but the cops were professionally trained, with the backing of the legal system, sophisticated communications systems, and extreme-tech weapons at their disposal. They were not abberations -- they were trained to do that, to punish, at street level. Federal troops were favored over local (Nat'l Guard, etc) because it allowed them to effect a media blackout, as they did in the Gulf War -- the violence actually *ESCALATED* over the weekend, not subsided -- my source? A friend talking to a person whose wife is an emergency-room nurse, on duty that whole weekend. They routinely monitor the police frequencies, for advance notice of medical disasters, etc. The death count leaped from 30something Friday, to 50+ Sunday night, with no explanations. Federal troops were *shooting looters*. Shooting people, to protect *property*? FidoNews 9-19 Page 2 11 May 1992 The jury was tampered with, in the usual legal manner of tossing out anyone who has an opinion, skill or shows intelligence. The jury was told explicitly, and illegally, that they could not "vote their conscience" but only look at the law. This not only undermines the U.S. legal system, but all of the good parts of the last few hundred years of Western Law. Will some FIJA (Fully Informed Jury Assoc) person(s) submit an article covering that process and right, for FidoNews? Contrary to some media coverage, rioting and looting in downtown San Francisco was not racial. It was purely class/economic. My source? I was there. Even the cops are saying it was extremely mixed racially. (Though numerically, 90% of the *arrested* looters were white). More on local troubles: you might have heard about all of the "rioters" arrested in the Mission District, "breaking curfew". Hundreds of people were arrested hours before the curfew took effect, and arrested as the came out of subways, out of grocery stores, completely unaware of goings-on. Hundreds. One friend was corralled at 7pm at 18th/Mission, and the police report says 11PM (2 hours after curfew) and at 24th/Mission, where a large protest was taking place. Even if protesting is stupid, it is anyone's damn right to assemble in public. There was no looting/violence in San Francisco except Thursday night. Friday night was completely peaceful; I drove around and looked. It was obvious to anyone that there was no need for the Friday night curfew, which resulted in more arrests in the usual places; black negighborhoods, gay neighborhoods, etc. On top of all this, some of my friends were self-oppressing themselves, terrified, refusing to go outside, afraid of "black muggers" and other non-events. Other, so-called liberal types climbing over each other to "denounce the violence" that "makes us all look bad" and "undoes all the work we've done" and other fair-weather- friend nonsense. And one idiot on the street, as I was relating my observations of Thursday night to a friend, snootily attacked me for "condoning violence" simply because I was not "condemning" it as I spoke. "Just because those of us who work within the system..." etc. The whole thing is disgusting. We are in serious trouble. * * * * * On a happier note, there's the INTERUSER thread, which is actually remaining quite calm, overall. However, what you see in this issue of FidoNews will be the last on this subject; I've never heard back from Dave Rawson, so I'll assume that everything has been covered in that department. FidoNews 9-19 Page 3 11 May 1992 These items relating to the INTERUSER problems will hopefully illustrate the complexity of issues around communication, fairness, etc. ad nauseum. I received a well-thought out suggestion for FidoNews that deserves mention here: From: ALC%PSULIAS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Alan Claver E6 Pattee 5-7213) To: fidosw.fidonet.org!fidonews Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1992 12:33 EST Upon reading your latest editorial in Fidonews 9-17, I wonder why you don't just adapt the methods of most newspapers. Articles in the news sections of most newspapers reflect the general news of the area. Here you can publish all articles will relate to Fidonet, both technical and procedural. Any other articles (including flames, attacks, etc) would fall under the "Letters to the Editor" category. Here you would be free to publish what you wish, when you wish. As the editor, the editorial is a way for you to promote your feelings, goals, priorities, agendas, whatever. In Letters to the Editors, you would be able to post those items which you feel expand or present opposing viewpoints to those articles or editorials which are in the system. Alan Claver, SYSOP The Blue and White Lion (1:129/94) Actually an excellent idea; however I think FidoNews would balloon into a humungous file monster, and what I've tried to do is include letters (like yours!) in essentially this way, selectively. I think also, the FidoNet itself *is* the "letters" section of FidoNews (for a rather twisted, egocentric point of view :-) And further: PS: Please lose the "Latest Fidonet BBS and Mailers section". It's getting way too large and includes all sorts of irrelevent information. Or, perhaps just insert it once a month, preferable as a separate file. Funny you should mention this. The VERSIONS list has been given to someone who is converting it to a database, for ease of update; how it will be included within FidoNews is actually up for grabs. I agree it's far too large. I'm favoring occasional (monthly?) full list inclusion, and only "changes since last list" (ie. deltas, ie. diffs) weekly. With the whole shoebox available from the FidoNews BBS. FidoNews 9-19 Page 4 11 May 1992 I apologize to everyone for how out of date the list has become; I swear, before June a new list will be in place or the current one removed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 9-19 Page 5 11 May 1992 ====================================================================== ARTICLES ====================================================================== Aaron Goldblatt, a user on 1:130/405 I've been out of touch with FidoNet of late. In January I was forced to take my point down (1:130/32.1) for personal reasons, and, among other things, I lost contact with some great friends. A great many of them appeared in the INTERUSER echo, and came from places as far away to me as Estonia is from the United States of Texas. I've recently started to get back into the swing of things with the help of some local sysops that I helped get rolling. They know that I like to read the Snooze so they put it up for me and I download it when I can. In 915 I was very upset to see the article "Everything In Moderation" by Ann Ioannides of 1:135/54. At the time I read it (and wrote this) 918 was current and I had yet to see a response from anyone other than tomj on the issue. The promised last word from Dave Rawson never appeared. I wish to clarify a few things in the absence of Dave's rebuttal, not to poke, flame, irk, irritate, vex, harry, harrass, or otherwise piss off Ann, Dave, tomj, Tomas, Daan (the other moderator) or any of the other folk involved. But my own experience with the moderators of INTERUSER may shed some light on a situation that has, so far, only one side to the average reader of FidoNews (is there such a thing?). Back in about, say, 1989, I bumped into a confrence called POLITICS and became active there. I was pointed by some of its participants to the INTERUSER confrence, which a local sysop agreed to carry for me. I introduced myself in message and got a very nice netmail response from the then-sole?-moderator, Tomas Bremin. Things bumped along. I went down and came back a few months later to find that Tomas had stepped aside. Dave Rawson became the moderator for the Zones 1 and 6 sides of the operation, and Daan van Rooten (did I spell that right?) became moderator over in Zone 2. Things began to change in INTERUSER. It always seemed to me that Tomas was an "active" moderator, that everyone knew who he was and what he did. When Dave took over the active presence of the moderators seemed to go away, and I did comment on it at one point. It turned out that, instead of resorting to echomail messages they were netmailing their hearts out trying to enlist the cooperation of users and sysops that way. Excellent strategy. And then it changed again, and they became much more active in the echo. They reiterated a few long-standing rules: o Real names FidoNews 9-19 Page 6 11 May 1992 o No test messages o No one-liners o The usual (flaming, illegal stuff, etc.) A number of users saw these restrictions (apparently for the first time) and asked why they were put in place. I explained to a number of these people why each of these rules was present. o It is general custom to use your real name in echomail. o INTERUSER is distributed over at least three continents, and test messages and one-liners serve only to add to the traffic level while not adding to the content level. o In many countries where INTERUSER is distributed a sysop can be held responsible for material on his system, whether or not it originated there. Therefore, such things as posting Nazi propaganda (by whatever name) is prohibited, because in some countries where INTERUSER is carried, the spread of such ideas is illegal. On the point of message overhead, a little education was required. Once I took a one-liner and posted it with all the AREA, kludge, Path, Seen-By, and * Origin lines exposed for the user to see. Many users were surprised by just how much information is carried in one message. The reason the Seen-Bys and Paths are important is that INTERUSER is carried by a great many systems - listings for those systems pile up quickly on the bottom of a message. And add to that the fact that INTERUSER is one of the largest echos in FidoNet. One normal afternoon I pulled in over 300 messages in FidoNet, with no feeds reported down in the past week. If there was a major mail holdup, mail dumps in excess of 2000 pieces were not unheard of on my system, depending on the scale of the problem. The moderators asked me to write a short file on WHY the rules were put in place. I started and then went down, never completing it. At the same time, I made Dave Rawson an offer, and therein lies one possible explanation to a charge that Ann made. Dave had posted that he spent a lot of time moderating INTERUSER, which I can believe. I offered, in netmail, to help him with the job. I never received a response. About the same time, Dave disappeared from the echo. At first I suspected a feed problem somewhere upstream and reported so in the echo. Then I did a little checking on other systems - all over the United States - that carry the echo (addresses talen from Origin lines). Mail from Dave Rawson was not present on any of them. And since Dave comes from Zone 1 the possibility of a Zone 1 <==> Zone 2 link failure affecting me in this way seems remote at best, especially given that I could not find mail from him in New York, Florida, California, Kansas, Indiana, or Chicago. FidoNews 9-19 Page 7 11 May 1992 I sent more mail directly to Dave's bossnode - crash netmail on my own dime, not routed, so I know it got through. I also asked the bossnode what was up. To quote Ann's article: AI> ...I sent out this mail on February 9th, and again on the 29th. AI> To the date of this writing, I have received NO RESPONSE from Dave AI> Rawson, who was apparently the one that had me banned. [end of quote] To date I have seen no response from Dave, either, on my offer to help with moderatorship. While I certainly concede the point that Dave may simply be ignoring Ann's netmail, I see no reason why he would ignore mine, when he asked me to write that explanation file, thereby implying that I was something of a respected participant in INTERUSER. I am more inclined to believe that Ann's messages suffered the same fate as mine did. But I don't know what fate they suffered, unless, maybe, his bossnode is deleting it (a charge I do NOT make). While I would not presume to make assumptions about Dave's policy on his inbound netmail, I would not be surprised if he doesn't ignore the mail he gets - our mail just got dropped in the bit bucket somewhere. Stranger things have happened (I found a green sock in my laundry - I don't have any green socks). May I suggest, in the interest of INTERUSER harmony, that Ann, Dave, Daan, and Tomas (if he's willing) figure out a way to fix this misunderstanding? There's room for everybody in INTERUSER, and in FidoNet, for everybody, if we can just compromise and work out problems once in a while. Let me point out once again that, as far as I know, Ann was always a reasonable participant in INTERUSER, and Dave, Daan, and Tomas were reasonable moderators, and that I consider all four of them my friends. I would be pleased to share an echo with them at some future date. Oh, Ann, to answer your question: AI> My question is this: What can I do? Nothing, other than talk. Points and users have no rights in Fido, remember? Comments from any party may be directed to me, Aaron Goldblatt, at: FidoNet: 1:130/28, 1:130/301, 1:130/404, 1:130/405 SnailMail: P.O. Box 331447 Fort Worth, Texas 76163 United States of America FidoNews 9-19 Page 8 11 May 1992 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Derby on 1:161/414 To: Tom Jennings on 1:1/1 Subj: Moderation Hi, Tom. Just wanted to comment on your comments (oh boy, this is getting confusing already) about the article in Fnews 915. I agree with you that the article probably should not have run was written since it made some claims which may or may not be substantiated. I do feel, however, that the questions brought up by the article are worth asking. When a user feels that s/he has been wronged by a moderator, or that a moderator is doing a lousy job, what can be done about it? Of course, the user can always stop using the echo or ask the sysop to reconsider carrying it, but it seems that these are just band-aid solutions and don't address the real problem. Just last month, for example, I saw an echo moderator ASK the echo's users to flame another user. In any case, getting back to the article, I think the story told there did a good job of pointing out what can happen and the frustration that can result. (Though perhaps it would better have run without the more pointed details) On an unrelated topic, I agree wholeheartedly with your note in Fnews 916 that you consider the FIDO community to include sysops and users alike. After all, it's the users that give FIDO the patronage and support that we all enjoy. I have FIDOnews readily available to my users (though I don't think any of them read it. Guess it's the thought that counts). Steve Derby @ 1:161/414 The Hall of Mirrors ---------------------------------------------------------------------- (* I'll make this "anonymous" to protect the participants. -- tomj *) From: (anon in zone 2) To: Tom Jennings on 1:125/111 Subj: Interuser, Ann Ioannides and all the rest [...] First, let me inform you (for fairness), that I, too have been thrown out of INTERUSER once. This was because I flamed the moderator 'in public' because in my eyes, he had not the right to act as he did. I regard this as another story from what I would like to tell you below. FidoNews 9-19 Page 9 11 May 1992 This story is about moderators. Sure, a moderator is omnipotent, but there should be rules against abuse of power in Fido in general. See, a moderator is not controlled by anyone. In the case of ASIAN_LINK, we were lucky, that the mod broke his own self assigned rules and therefore disqualified himself. But what happens, when a self-assigned, or otherwise non-elected moderator abuses power? The Echo goes down the drain. The atmosphere is poisoned and there is nothing to do against it. In the case of INTERUSER, the moderators did not control the echo, they reigned it (and still get away with it). All the principles of democracy, free speech and protection from the governing organs are partly reduced and some (see above) do not even exist. I regard this as a problem, since, as I have seen they did not care to reply to Ann after she asked them to rectify their decisions. Is that right? Doesn't she, at least deserve an appropriate answer? And isn't giving the moderators, who have more power than the points and users, the last word a way of 'giving them a chance to get away with it'? Anyway, I would like to have discussion on that topic, since it interests me how the founder of Fido thinks about the development of his 'creation'. Hope not having offended you. Please, reply on this message and tell me, if you are interested, to 'roll up things a bit' on this case. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Fredric Rice The Skeptic Tank 1:102/890.0 Heisenberg: Move over. It's a sad state indeed when one is motivated to remove someone elses postings from ones system - sans revue - quickly and without fuss. Yet there are needs. And a sort of 'electronic black hole,' so to speak, is available into which one may dump unwanted garbage: The Bit Bucket. It can hold a _lot_ of trash and never get full. And narry a 'vomir,' if I may translate a vulgarity into French thus rendering it sweet. Version 2.2 of the EXCLUDE project is being released. This project will erase inbound Network mail or Echomail based upon a bewildering variety of selection criterion before you, the weary reader, must review it and hit that ever-so-powerfull button: The Right Arrow Key! FidoNews 9-19 Page 10 11 May 1992 Placed into the batch file after the tossing of mail, EXCLUDE will scan for and erase undesireable *.MSG messages, retaining a log of what has been removed. Selections of messages to erased can be based upon: o Keywords appearing in a systems title o Nodelist flag groups o Predefined network address o 'From' name or 'To' name of the message Pretty ugly? You bet! Needed? Sometimes - for short periods only, usually. Until the problem eventually goes away. Historically they do. Usually, you would toss the mail, bundle it up for the nodes you feed, and then exclude that which is undesireable from your local message base. This sequence is done because it's generally considered that you have NO right to erase other peoples mail for them before they get it. (And, in fact, I agree with this totally.) Historically, this is what's done with the Killer Dog utilities available to date. You would typically only exclude messages 'down-stream' from you if you are the moderator of a conference or you ask your feed to provide the service for you. The magick name is EXCLUDE. File name is EXCLUDE.LZH. It's 38K and contains the source code. (Its distribution configuration file excludes mail from systems which are designated as systems which would attempt to force their mysticisms into our school rooms -- you will probably wish to replace the configuration file with one of your own.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FidoCon 1992 David Deitch First, I do not mean to detract from Dallas or the various nets involved in its FidoCon proposal. I am sure that they will produce a very successful convention. My displeasure is directed at whomever is responsible for the selection process. Or lack thereof. In October of 1991, Net 133 of Atlanta sent messages to the Zone Coordinator, George Peace, requesting information about bidding for FidoCon 1992. We were sent a copy of last year's bids and no further information. Upon requesting information on the bidding process, we were told that there was none scheduled yet. No deadline was set, and follow-up messages reflected no change. In November, after every indication that there was no plan for a FidoCon 1992 bidding process, we asked the ZC to inform us if and when they decided to accept bids. Imagine our suprise when Dallas won a bidding process we never knew about. Atlanta is a tremendous city already known for its convention and tourist facilities. Given the chance, we could have had a fair contest with Dallas. FidoNews 9-19 Page 11 11 May 1992 But we were never given the chance, and that is not acceptible. The ZC and whomever is responsible for soliciting/evaluating FidoCon bids need to rethink their disinterested approach. FidoCon bids should be open to all, not just those in the priviledged information circle. David Deitch Former Chair of the Net 133 FidoCon Committee Galaxy Information System (GIS) Atlanta 1:133/411@fidonet ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Al Filandro 1:141/885, 1:141/1800@Fidonet Rush-Fan Echo Over the past several months the RUSH_FAN echo has taken off to a pretty decent start. This echo was begun by myself to allow die-hard Rush-Fans the chance to exchange information concerning the band and any anecdotes or trivia one may have on the group. The Rush_Fans echo is now being seen-by eighteen BBS's in Fidonet in the Continental U.S. and Canada...I'm hoping a few more can and will join in the festivities so I'm re-submitting this article to Fidonews. If you wish to get started with the echo (the more the merrier!) please send me netmail at 1:141/885 or 1:141/1800 or contact me on my BBS- The Cygnus X-I Opus-Gamma in Connecticut at 203-628-9702. I only ask that you poll my system for the packets once every week or so since the traffic is not that intense. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 9-19 Page 12 11 May 1992 ====================================================================== LATEST VERSIONS ====================================================================== Latest Greatest SoftWare Versions Latest Update: 01/27/92 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MS-DOS Systems -------------- BBS Software NodeList Utilities Compression Name Version Name Version Utilities -------------------- -------------------- Name Version ADTBBS 1.50@ EditNL 4.00 -------------------- Aurora 1.32b FDND 1.10 ARC 7.12 DMG 2.93 MakeNL 2.31 ARJ 2.20 DreamBBS 1.05 Parselst 1.33 LHA 2.13 Fido/FidoNet 12.21 Prune 1.40 PAK 2.51 Genesis Deluxe 3.2 SysNL 3.14 PKPak 3.61 GSBBS 3.02 XlatList 2.90 PKZip 1.10 Kitten 1.01 XlaxNode/Diff 2.53 Lynx 1.30 Maximus-CBCS 2.00 Merlin 1.39n Other Utilities(A-M) Other Utilities(N-Z) Opus 1.73a* Name Version Name Version Oracomm 5.M.6P@ -------------------- -------------------- Oracomm Plus 6.E@ 2DAPoint 1.50* Netsex 2.00b PCBoard 14.5a 4Dog/4DMatrix 1.18 OFFLINE 1.35 Phoenix 1.07* ARCAsim 2.31 Oliver 1.0a ProBoard 1.20* ARCmail 3.00* OSIRIS CBIS 3.02 QuickBBS 2.75 Areafix 1.20 PKInsert 7.10 RBBS 17.3b ConfMail 4.00 PolyXarc 2.1a RemoteAccess 1.11* Crossnet 1.5 QM 1.00a SimplexBBS 1.05 DOMAIN 1.42 QSort 4.04 SLBBS 2.15C* DEMM 1.06 RAD Plus 2.11 Socrates 1.11 DGMM 1.06 Raid 1.00 SuperBBS 1.12* DOMAIN 1.42 RBBSMail 18.0 SuperComm 0.99 EEngine 0.32 ScanToss 1.28 TAG 2.5g EMM 2.11* ScMail 1.00 TBBS 2.1 EZPoint 2.1 ScEdit 1.12 TComm/TCommNet 3.4 FGroup 1.00 Sirius 1.0x Telegard 2.7* FidoPCB 1.0s@ SLMail 2.15C TPBoard 6.1 FNPGate 2.70 SquishMail 1.00 TriTel 2.0* GateWorks 3.06e StarLink 1.01 WildCat! 3.02* GMail 2.05 TagMail 2.41 WWIV 4.20 GMD 3.10 TCOMMail 2.2 XBBS 1.77 GMM 1.21 Telemail 1.5* GoldEd 2.31p TGroup 1.13 GROUP 2.23 TIRES 3.11 Network Mailers GUS 1.40 TMail 1.21 Name Version Harvey's Robot 4.10 TosScan 1.00 -------------------- HeadEdit 1.18 UFGATE 1.03 BinkleyTerm 2.50 HLIST 1.09 VPurge 4.09e D'Bridge 1.30 IMAIL 1.20 WEdit 2.0@ Dreamer 1.06 InterPCB 1.31 WildMail 2.00 FidoNews 9-19 Page 13 11 May 1992 Dutchie 2.90c ISIS 5.12@ WMail 2.2 FrontDoor 2.02 Lola 1.01d WNode 2.1 InterMail 2.01 Mosaic 1.00b XRS 4.99 Milqtoast 1.00 MailBase 4.11a@ XST 2.3e PreNM 1.48 MSG 4.5* YUPPIE! 2.00 SEAdog 4.60 MSGED 2.06 ZmailH 1.25 SEAmail 1.01 MsgLnk 1.0c ZSX 2.40 TIMS 1.0(mod8) MsgMstr 2.03a MsgNum 4.16d MSGTOSS 1.3 OS/2 Systems ------------ BBS Software Other Utilities(A-M Other Utilities(N-Z) Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- Kitten 1.01 ARC 7.12 oMMM 1.52 Maximus-CBCS 2.00 ARC2 6.01 Omail 3.1 SimplexBBS 1.04.02+ ConfMail 4.00 Parselst 1.33 EchoStat 6.0 PKZip 1.02 EZPoint 2.1 PMSnoop 1.30 Network Mailers FGroup 1.00 PolyXOS2 2.1a Name Version GROUP 2.23 QSort 2.1 -------------------- LH2 2.11 Raid 1.0 BinkleyTerm 2.50 MSG 4.2 Remapper 1.2 BinkleyTerm(S) 2.50 MsgEd 2.06c SquishMail 1.00 BinkleyTerm/2-MT MsgLink 1.0c Tick 2.0 1.40.02 MsgNum 4.16d VPurge 4.09e SEAmail 1.01 Xenix/Unix 386 -------------- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- ARC 5.21 C-LHARC 1.00 MsgEd 2.06 |Contact: Willy Paine 1:343/15,| MSGLINK 1.01 |or Eddy van Loo 2:285/406 | oMMM 1.42 Omail 1.00 ParseLst 1.32 Unzip 3.10 VPurge 4.08 Zoo 2.01 FidoNews 9-19 Page 14 11 May 1992 QNX --- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- QTach2 1.09 QMM 0.50s Kermit 2.03 QCP 1.02 NodeList Utilities Archive Utilities QSave 3.6 Name Version Name Version QTTSysop 1.07.1 -------------------- -------------------- SeaLink 1.05 QNode 2.09 Arc 6.02 XModem 1.00 LH 1.00.2 YModem 1.01 Unzip 2.01 ZModem 0.02f Zoo 2.01 Apple II -------- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- DDBBS + 8.0* Fruity Dog 2.0 deARC2e 2.1 GBBS Pro 2.1 ProSel 8.70* ShrinkIt 3.30* |Contact: Dennis McClain-Furmanski 1:275/42| ShrinkIt GS 1.04 Apple CP/M ---------- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- Daisy 2j Daisy Mailer 0.38 Filer 2-D MsgUtil 2.5 Nodecomp 0.37 PackUser 4 UNARC.Com 1.20 Macintosh --------- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Software Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- FBBS 0.91 Copernicus 1.0 ArcMac 1.3 Hermes 1.6.1 Tabby 2.2 AreaFix 1.6 Mansion 7.15 Compact Pro 1.30 Precision Sys. 0.95b EventMeister 1.0 Red Ryder Host 2.1 Export 3.21 Telefinder Host Import 3.2 FidoNews 9-19 Page 15 11 May 1992 2.12T10 LHARC 0.41 MacArd 0.04 Mantissa 3.21 Point System Mehitable 2.0 Software OriginatorII 2.0 Name Version PreStamp 3.2 -------------------- StuffIt Classic 1.6 Copernicus 1.00 SunDial 3.2 CounterPoint 1.09 TExport 1.92 MacWoof 1.1 TimeStamp 1.6 TImport 1.92 Tset 1.3 TSort 1.0 UNZIP 1.02c Zenith 1.5 Zip Extract 0.10 Amiga ----- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Software Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- 4D-BBS 1.65 BinkleyTerm 1.00 Areafix 1.48 DLG Pro. 0.96b TrapDoor 1.80 AReceipt 1.5 Falcon CBCS 1.00 WelMat 0.44 ChameleonEdit 0.11 Starnet 1.0q@ ConfMail 1.12 TransAmiga 1.07 ElectricHerald 1.66 XenoLink 1.0 Compression FFRS 1.0@ Utilities FileMgr 2.08 Name Version Fozzle 1.0@ NodeList Utilities -------------------- Login 0.18 Name Version AmigArc 0.23 MessageFilter 1.52 -------------------- booz 1.01 Message View 1.12 ParseLst 1.66 LHARC 1.30 oMMM 1.50 Skyparse 2.30 LhA 1.10 PolyXAmy 2.02 TrapList 1.40 LZ 1.92 RMB 1.30 PkAX 1.00 Roof 46.15 UnZip 4.1 RoboWriter 1.02 Zippy (Unzip) 1.25 Rsh 4.07a Zoo 2.01 Tick 0.75 TrapToss 1.20 |Contact: Maximilian Hantsch 2:310/6| Yuck! 2.02 Atari ST/TT ----------- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- FIDOdoor/ST 2.5.1 BinkleyTerm 2.40n9 ApplyList 1.00@ FiFo 2.1v The Box 1.95* Burep 1.1 LED ST 1.00 ComScan 1.04 MSGED 1.99 ConfMail 4.10 QuickBBS/ST 1.06* NodeList Utilities Echoscan 1.10 FidoNews 9-19 Page 16 11 May 1992 Name Version FDrenum 2.5.2 -------------------- FastPack 1.20 Compression ParseList 1.30 Import 1.14 Utilities EchoFix 1.20 oMMM 1.40 Name Version sTICK/Hatch 5.50 Pack 1.00 -------------------- Trenum 0.10 ARC 6.02 LHARC 2.01i PackConvert STZip 1.1* UnJARST 2.00 WhatArc 2.02 Archimedes ---------- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- ARCbbs 1.61 BinkleyTerm ARC 1.20 Odyssey 0.37 2.06f-wimp !AskFor 1.01 RiscBBS 0.9.85m BatchPacker 1.00 DeLZ 0.01 MailED 0.95 NetFile 1.00 ParseLst 1.30 Raul 1.01 !Spark 2.16 !SparkMail 2.08 !SparkPlug 2.14 UnArj 2.21 UnZip 3.00 Zip 1.00 Tandy Color Computer 3 (OS-9 Level II) -------------------------------------- BBS Software Compression Utility Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- RiBBS 2.02+ Ar 1.3 Ascan 1.2 DeArc 5.12 AutoFRL 2.0 OS9Arc 1.0 Bundle 2.2 UnZip 3.10 CKARC 1.1 UnLZH 3.0 EchoCheck 1.01 FReq 2.5a LookNode 2.00 ParseLST PReq 2.2 FidoNews 9-19 Page 17 11 May 1992 RList 1.03 RTick 2.00 UnBundle 1.4 UnSeen 1.1 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Key: + - Netmail Capable (Doesn't Require Additional Mailer Software) * - Recently Updated Version @ - New Addition -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- NOTE: 8 Mar 92 FidoNews versions list update process is about to change, once again. It will be taken over by someone else. In the mean time hold onto your hats (and programs). Watch for an announcement within a week or two. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 9-19 Page 18 11 May 1992 ====================================================================== FIDONEWS INFORMATION ====================================================================== ------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ---------------- Editors: Tom Jennings, Tim Pozar Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince Perriello "FidoNews" BBS FidoNet 1:1/1 Internet fidonews@fidonews.fidonet.org BBS (415)-863-2739 (MAY 92: 2400 baud ONLY) (9600 HST/V32) (Postal Service mailing address) FidoNews Box 77731 San Francisco CA 94107 USA Published weekly by and for the Members of the FidoNet international amateur electronic mail system. It is a compilation of individual articles contributed by their authors or their authorized agents. The contribution of articles to this compilation does not diminish the rights of the authors. Opinions expressed in these articles are those of the authors and not necessarily those of FidoNews. FidoNews is copyright 1992 Fido Software. All rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances, please contact FidoNews (we're easy). OBTAINING COPIES: FidoNews in electronic form may be obtained from the FidoNews BBS via manual download or Wazoo FileRequest, or from various sites in the FidoNet and via uucp. PRINTED COPIES mailed may be obtained from Fido Software for $5.00US each PostPaid First Class within North America, or $7.00US elsewhere, mailed Air Mail. (US funds drawn upon a US bank only.) Periodic subscriptions are not available at this time; if enough people request it I will implement it. SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews BBS, or Wazoo filerequestable from 1:1/1 as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". FidoNews 9-19 Page 19 11 May 1992 "Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered trademarks of Tom Jennings of Fido Software, Box 77731, San Francisco CA 94107, USA and are used with permission. -- END ----------------------------------------------------------------------