F I D O N E W S -- | Vol. 9 No. 15 (13 April 1992) The newsletter of the | FidoNet BBS community | Published by: _ | / \ | "FidoNews" BBS /|oo \ | (415)-863-2739 (_| /_) | FidoNet 1:1/1 _`@/_ \ _ | Internet: | | \ \\ | fidonews@fidonews.fidonet.org | (*) | \ )) | |__U__| / \// | Editors: _//|| _\ / | Tom Jennings (_/(_|(____/ | Tim Pozar (jm) | ----------------------------+--------------------------------------- Published weekly by and for the Members of the FidoNet international amateur network. Copyright 1992, Fido Software. All rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances, please contact FidoNews. Paper price: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $5.00US Electronic Price: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . free! For more information about FidoNews refer to the end of this file. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Table of Contents 1. EDITORIAL ..................................................... 1 Editorial: NO TRESPASSING ..................................... 1 2. ARTICLES ...................................................... 2 A necessary patch for NED 2.00 ................................ 2 There -are- good people in this world after all ............... 3 Unfair Is Fair in INTERUSER? .................................. 5 A Matter Of Courtesy .......................................... 7 A Public Request for Echomail Policy Clarification ............ 9 New ECHO: The Model Government Colloquium .................... 10 COMHRA - The Gaelic Language Echo ............................. 10 MAILBAG Echo Conference ....................................... 11 Progressive BBS Listing to be Made ............................ 12 3. LATEST VERSIONS ............................................... 14 Software List ................................................. 14 4. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .......................................... 20 FidoNews 9-15 Page 1 13 Apr 1992 ====================================================================== EDITORIAL ====================================================================== Editorial: NO TRESSPASSING by Tom Jennings (1:1/1) Once upon a time, the end. I ahve a feeling this one won't be so accomodating. We seem to have a flurry of people complaining about being treated badly. It's easy enough to dismiss exactly half as blame wrongly placed, but I start to wonder sometimes. We don't have very good process for accepting new users and sysops, and many sysops *are* downright pompous, far more than the usual human spread. My opinion is that it's because you get the appearance of "influence" over others, without any real accountability. Yeah I know, sysops have it hard; don't forget, I *are* one. It's not that tough, and when it is, you can simply give it up. Part of me wonders: if this trickle becomes a flood, what to do with all of these articles about problems connecting to FidoNet? We can assume that this is the authors' last resort; after all running the article here won't get them connected. I've been thinking of this problem for a while. I know others have been too. Maybe it would be nice if there was a conference for airing these problems, with the goal of working on practical solutions (though I admit griping only has it's usefulness...) Don't ask me to start it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 9-15 Page 2 13 Apr 1992 ====================================================================== ARTICLES ====================================================================== Jack Decker Fidonet 1:154/8 A NECESSARY PATCH FOR NED 2.00 A few of us diehards still use NED, Anthony Lander's message reader/editor, because it allows you to use the word processor or text editor of your choice without giving you any grief about it (unlike some programs that pretty much insist that you use their built-in text editor). Ned dates messages using a Fido-format date (for example: Fri 27 Mar 92 04:05). Unfortunately, during the first nine days of the month, Ned outputs a leading zero in the date field (example: Mon 06 Apr 92 02:14). That leading zero is NOT standard, it should be replaced by a blank (space). If this is not done, some downstream mail processors (Squish in particular) may discard the message as grunged (the date doesn't meet FTSC specifications). This could be a particularly galling problem since it would appear to users of NED that messages are only getting through part of the time, and unless you were aware of the problem, you'd never know why. Point system users may be particularly at risk since NED was frequently used in point system setups for a while. I haven't seen a new version of NED in nearly three years, so I don't have high hopes for a fix from the author. However, I have discovered from limited testing that if you have access to a file editor, you can fix the problem by changing only one byte of the NED.EXE file. If you don't know how to patch an .EXE file, find a software hacker in your net who can help you. Here's the fix: In NED version 2.00, in the NED.EXE file, starting at File offset 62,648 (hex F4B8), you'll find the following hexadecimal byte string: 25332E33 73202532 2E326420 25332E33 73202532 2E326400 25732025 322E3264 3A25322E 326400 In ASCII text format it looks like this: %3.3s %2.2d %3.3s %2.2d.%s %2.2d:%2.2d [day date month year hour min] [The bottom line isn't in the file, it's just there to tell you what the numbers in the first line represent.] The actual byte you need to change is at File offset 62,657 (hex F4C1). The byte is currently hex 32 (the number "2" in ASCII) and you need to change it to a hex 31 (the number "1"): FidoNews 9-15 Page 3 13 Apr 1992 25332E33 73202532 2E316420 25332E33 73202532 2E326400 25732025 ^^ 322E3264 3A25322E 326400 And in ASCII text format the change looks like this: %3.3s %2.1d %3.3s %2.2d.%s %2.2d:%2.2d ^ Please note: I tested this using a few different dates and it seemed to work fine, but I don't guarantee anything. If it doesn't work for you, just don't enter any messages on the first nine days of the month! :-) Or try a different reader/editor... :-( ---------------------------------------------------------------------- There -are- good people in this world after all by Kenneth Udut (1:107/952) This is my first posting to Fidonews, and hopefully not my last. I am a relatively new addition to the Fidonet community. I entered Fidonet mainly to harass the Fido/Internet Gateway here (1:107/10) by receiving my college mail and LISTSERV mail (I run Y- RIGHTS@SJUVM.BITNET - a list on the rights of kids and teens. It'll be a list on Fidonet if I can help it, but I'll wait until I understand the political/technological structure better) :) I'd just like to reply to my friend Tom Jennings, who doesn't yet know I'm a friend, but'll soon find out ;) ( Tom Jennings (1:1/1) ) > Nope. I revived some junk computers (IBM XT's, with cassette ports > even!), painted them fun colors, to give out to people who don't have > any. The more hardware-fetishistic amongst us will whine that giving > someone a PC1 is worse than no computer at all; I beg to differ. I > think most people grossly *over*estimate their hardware needs. And I > can tell you my smart and literate but non-techie friends generating > print publications with GEOWORKS are quite happy. Tom, you are a great man! I see people complaining to me about my slow Tandy 1000 TL (286 8mhz) and how I should upgrade, but why? Sure, I'd like to have a computer that rivals a mini-VAX running VMS or an older IBM mainframe, but I frankly can't afford it (I can't even afford to re-open my pro-Tandy/pro-KidsTeens/pro-Gay/Bigot-Accepting BBS again which bothers me, but that's another story). FidoNews 9-15 Page 4 13 Apr 1992 <<<< flame on >>>> (medium flicker) I see a trend in longer-running BBS sysops which says "Upgrade or Die". It's the same trend I see in software development. What you end up having is a handful of people going up and up and up with their computer's speed, power and efficiency, and a whole LOT of people without even an inkling as to what a computer can do for them. I think we should try to fill in the gaps. Take the older computers and "spruce them up" a bit. Get Geoworks Ensemble (A WONDERFUL program... but, then again, I Beta Test for them, so I'm biased ;D ), toss it on their 10 Meg Hard Drives and send them on their way into the world of computers. We should give these non-computer people a shot and get the world of PC's out of the hands of the Progressional folks only, and get some of the power into the hands of the Average Person. Owning a computer can get to be a bit of the Ultimate Status Symbol, allowing for Instant Gratification (don't you love Key Phrases?). Once you get hooked on the power, it doesn't cost TOO much for the person with a 40hr/week job to upgrade, and it allows them to get to a power that they really don't need. I applaud the people that stand by their original computers... all the CoCos/Commadore 64s/Atari xxxs/Apple ][s/early Tandys out there. Some of us will say "Oh - get a life! The world is an IBM world now, baby, and you gotta flow along with it". They seem to do just fine and dandy with what they have and instead of spending their time getting the NEXT best thing, they use their computers for what they were intended. :::: applauding :::: <<<< medium flame off >>>> Sorry in advance for any/all offended. These opinions are my own and I accept responsibility only for those statements. I also see the other side of the coin quite clearly, because I find myself falling into the trap every once in a while, and I know that I will be an upgrade fanatic once I get some money together. So I am probably talking more about what I'm afraid of becoming rather than about you. (5 cent psychological self-analyzation). So, YEAH to Geoworks Ensemble, YEAH to Fidonet and YEAH, especially, to Tom Jennings, who quite inspires this young gay male to move forth through the world with the eyes of an Understanding One, instead of falling into the trap of the Bigot, the ConMan, or the Elitist. Thank You for accepting me kindly onto your terminal screens. --Ken || All Comments, positive or negative, are welcome || FidoNews 9-15 Page 5 13 Apr 1992 Kenneth Udut @ 1:107/952 1:107/900 (hub) kudut@hamp.hampshire.edu ListOwner of Y-RIGHTS@SJUVM.BITNET PO Box 151 Roselle Park, NJ 07204-0151 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Everything In Moderation By Ann Ioannides, 1:135/54 We all know who moderates echo participants - a moderator. But...who moderates a moderator?? A simple question, perhaps. Yet, I have been trying to find out the answer for about a year. No one can point me in the right direction. Case in point. I was EXTREMELY active on the INTERUSER echo. But then, I began to "go against the grain." What did I do? Did I flame other users? Did I post advertisements? Did I use profanity? Did I break the law? Did I do any of the "usual" things for which users get in trouble on Fido echos? No. I was singled out by the Zone 1 Moderator, Dave Rawson, for such criminal acts as accidentally allowing more than 10 of my posts per day to enter the echo, having an offline reader that creates its own tearline, and having tagline sayings at the end of my messages. I corrected the first as soon as I realized what was happening (though Dave continued to hold it over my head seemingly forever). As for the second and third, I was among many people who had similar tear- and taglines in each of their messages (and many still do today), yet I, alone, was singled out for attack by the Moderators. When I was told that the reasons behind the moderatorial persecution were monetary in nature (they claimed my tear- and taglines added to the cost of the message), I asked a simple question: Who is paying, and how much? I asked this question not only because I was curious, but also because I had, in the past, donated what I consider to be a rather large sum of money to Joaquim Homrighausen when he was paying the overseas bills for INTERUSER. I was planning on doing so again for the new link, as thanks for gating the echo around the world. To this day, however, I have never received an answer to this simple question. (I repeated that question AT LEAST *3* times, in case they missed it somehow.) It strikes me as a bit odd that my question was never even acknowledged. Were the Moderators afraid that I would, again, donate to this person, and that they would no longer be able to justify their attacks on my supposed waste of money? While it sounds far- fetched, no other reasonable answer has yet occurred to me. FidoNews 9-15 Page 6 13 Apr 1992 While I was being attacked for my supposed rule-breaking, I committed the most heinous crime possible on INTERUSER: I asked what I had done wrong. You see, ANY discussion of moderator policy on the echo is prohibited, except that the Moderators frequently violated their own rules on this subject!! Of course I see the need to post the rules, but I think that Dave Rawson went a bit too far when he launched into a pompous tirade on moderator policy. According to his own rules, that belongs in Netmail. Meanwhile, I decided to take a voluntary hiatus after Tomas Bremin, another Moderator, SUGGESTED that I might be able to use a short "cooling off period" (no mention was ever made of banning me from the echo). Recently, after over 6 months away from INTERUSER, I decided to pop back in for a little bit, just to re-acquaint myself with some ol' buddies. A few days later, I was shocked to receive urgent messages from two local Fido sysops, telling me to stop, because I have been banned. "WHAT!?!??!" I exclaimed, "_I_ have been banned? When did this happen?? How come nobody told ME???" It seems that Dave Rawson has netmailed my NEC, who has sent netmail to every sysop in my area, warning them that I am jumping systems to read INTERUSER. Oh, please! I mean, here I am, a high school teacher...like, I'm really the kind of person who would go around from BBS to BBS just to post on this echo? No, I don't think so. To me, it sounds like a bit of overreacting on the Moderator's part, or perhaps paranoia (!??). Besides, I have a VERY good reputation locally (I have been BBSing for about 10 years), and I know what is expected. Honestly, I must say that this seems to be a prime example of the moderator trying to turn sysops against me. I mean, why wasn't he blunt about it and just say, "BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THE ROGUE USER, ANN IOANNIDES! SHE WILL CAUSE YOUR WHOLE NET TO LOSE ITS ACCESS!" Give me a break! Like, I'm out to bring systems down. Riiiight! After finding out I had been banned, I sent off more Netmail to the Moderators asking them WHY I was banned, WHEN I had been banned, and WHY none of them bothered to inform me of this. I sent out this mail on February 9th, and again on the 29th. To the date of this writing, I have received NO RESPONSE from Dave Rawson, who was apparently the one that had me banned. The only response I have received came from Tomas Bremin, who is no longer a Moderator, and who told me that he had no say in the matter. The only conclusion I can reach is that Dave is ignoring me. While this is totally his right, I would expect the Moderator of an international echo to at least acknowledge the receipt of Netmail. I mean, that's common courtesy, right? So, the facts are these: I was banned from INTERUSER for minor infractions; the Moderators never bothered to inform me that I was banned; now they won't even acknowledge my existence. This incident is what prompted me to write this article. To whom is a user supposed to turn when s/he has a gripe about a moderator? What rights do the users have? What rights do the moderators have? Does the echo REALLY belong to him/her? FidoNews 9-15 Page 7 13 Apr 1992 In my netmail correspondence with the 3 moderators (at the time) of INTERUSER I asked other questions, such as: How long does a warning last? How long does a banishment last? For life? Who's to decide when the person has "cooled off" long enough? To this date, I have received no responses. My question is this: What can I do? Is there any procedure in FidoNet for dealing with disputes of this type, or are users totally at the whim of anyone who happens to become the Moderator? In other words, is there any way to show that a user has been wronged by a moderator and thus regain access to the echo in question? What I'd like to see come out of this is a set of "moderator's rights" versus "user's rights," and for EVERYONE (not just a select few) to know about them. Perhaps noting them in the guidelines of each echo would do. I just think that ALL Fidousers should know what to expect, in case anything similar happens to them. If anyone out there would like to discuss this any further, or, if you'd like complete details, including all the correspondence between myself and the INTERUSER Moderators, please feel free to netmail me at either 1:135/54 or 1:233/12. Also, we can discuss this on the appropriate echos. Whatever the case, I would REALLY like to hear your opinions!! :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A Matter Of Courtesy by Les Lemke (1:356/3) 523 Clark St., North Bend, Oregon 97420, USA (503) 756-3887 This is an article about courtesy and how the lack of it affected a lady who desired to become a member of the Fido community. In March of 1992 I had occasion to come into contact with a lady who lived in New Jersey. During the course of my contact with her I, finding that it would be a nice gesture, sent her a letter informing her about the FrontDoor mailer and about the free version of FrontDoor which she could obtain if she was interested. Along with that letter, I sent a somewhat condensed explanation of how the FrontDoor mailer and network operates. I also sent her all the listings out of the nodelist of individuals who lived in her local area. I told her that if she wished I would be glad to send her the program for the asking or, if she wished, she could contact someone locally, in the area where she lived, out of that listing of names and phone numbers which I had sent her. FidoNews 9-15 Page 8 13 Apr 1992 I told her that I was certain that if she did make contact with someone out of that list that I was sure they would be more than glad to help her by providing her with the latest version of FrontDoor and that they would more than likely provide her with some assistance - on a local level - in setting things up. I thought that when she made contact with someone out of that list that they would help her into a local network by setting her up as a Point. I guess I assumed too much. Here in Net356 we have a Host, an NEC/HUB and various Nodes who obtain great personal satisfaction and enjoyment in helping new members into our local Network and eventually, if they desire it, into the Fido Network as full fledged Nodes. It is through the members of this local Net that I learned about the existence of "something" called Fido. The members of Net356 were courteous, helpful, and expressed an appreciation in having me as an addition to their local network when I initially asked questions about joining. I had thought this positive attitude would be found elsewhere too. Now, maybe I was a bit naive in my assumption that most Fido Nodes and Hubs are as can be found in our local net - courteous and helpful - but I firmly believe that is how it should be. Those of us who are Nodes, Hosts, Hubs, NEC's or whatever should be courteous and helpful not only to each other but also to those folks who express a desire to learn more about the Fido Network. This should apply - most especially - to potential new members. If you wish to see the effect an uncourteous member of Fido can have on a newcomer - or potential member to the Fido community - read the letter which follows. After receiving this letter from the lady I responded with an apology to her on behalf of those of us who believe we should help newcomers - not treat them badly. Lastly - in case you are wondering - I have been able to contact a Hub in the area which this lady lives who has expressed a willingness to make her a point off of his system. This story ended happily, however, I wonder how many didn't. I quote her letter with the exception of the phone numbers which she makes reference to: Mrs. Dorothy Hanussak 81 Laidlaw Avenue Jersey City, NJ 07306-2105 March 19, 1992 Mr. Lester R. Lemke P.O.Box 1524 Coos Bay, OR 97420 FidoNews 9-15 Page 9 13 Apr 1992 Dear Mr. Lester R. Lemke First of all, I received the registered version of COUNTY. Thank you for such fast service. Most important of all, I wanted to write to you about the Fidonet. If you remember, you included a letter about them and how great they were. I found the idea very interesting, and wanted to get the FrontDoor program. I called the Network numbers you enclosed in your letter. A large portion of the numbers are now disconnected. The two numbers I was able to connect with were nasty and abusive. They were 201-XXX -XXXX and 201-XXX-XXXX. Their intro was that it was a private bbs. I typed what I wanted, then they gave me their screen of credits. They asked me which language I wanted the program in; English or Italian. Of course I put English. They then typed expletives and the word no. Then they hung up. If this is a sign of how these people are, thanks but no thanks. I really just don't need the aggravation. I don't mean to put any blame on you. You like the program a lot and are telling people about it. I would do the same thing. I did want to tell you about this though, because some people might not see the treatment I got tonight in the same light. I really don't think you should recommend these BBS's for this area. I guess without the program they don't want any part of you. The problem is that the program is unobtainable through anybody else. I tried through PCLINK and America On Line. Thanks for trying to be helpful, though. Sincerely, Mrs. Dorothy Hanussak ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Re: A Public Request for Echomail Policy Clarification by Al Kaufmann. Rather than get involved in a long and futile argument about the misleading information published recently in Fido news by Al Kaufman, the Southern Alberta Sysops Association wishes to publish the following; We in the Southern Alberta Sysops Association (SASA) of net 134 wish to apologize for the remarks of Mr. Al Kaufman recently published in Fidonews. Nobody has ever been refused membership in SASA, including Mr. Kaufman, nor is there even a mechanism within the bylaws to provide for it. We are sure that every net has an "Al Kaufman" in it, and hope that the readers understand. Thank you. FidoNews 9-15 Page 10 13 Apr 1992 Southern Alberta Sysops Association Kirk Rawnsley, Secretary Treasurer 1:134/26 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MODEL_GEE, the Model Government Colloquium by Rob Levin, 1:3802/217.0 (moderator) This is to announce new echo, called MODEL_GEE. It's presently distributed privately from my board. If enough interest exists, we'll look at requesting backbone distribution. Think of MODEL_GEE as a role-playing game for people interested in government and voluntarism. Set on the third planet of the Solar System, it portrays a world in which every intelligent being has a franchise, which he or she can bestow or withdraw at will. If you don't like your government, you can change it. If you can't change it, start another one, in MODEL_GEE.... MODEL_GEE works this way: 1) Assume that government is not a monopoly. Decide what you want to govern, and how you wish to govern it. Prepare a constitution. Make it as formal or informal as you want. 2) Publish the constitution in the echo. 3) Ask for feedback. Negotiate your terms. Find your constituency. That's about it! Presently, two arbitration agencies and three governments have been formed. Some serious, some not. Some very interesting traffic, and we hope you'll add to it. Rob Levin, Moderator The Model Government Colloquium ---------------------------------------------------------------------- by David Doyle, TOPPSI, Dublin, IRELAND (2:263/151) Are you of Irish descent? Or learning Irish/Gaelic? Then read on... COMHRA (the Irish for conversation) is an echo devoted to the Gaelic languages; both Irish and its Scottish and Manx relations. FidoNews 9-15 Page 11 13 Apr 1992 The echo is for those with any interest in the language, its history and culture. A link is setup between the echo and GAELIC-L, a bitnet mailing list. Many messages are bilingual with an English translation to aid those who are learning. The acute accent used in the language is indicated by following an accented character with a "/" character so the Irish for "Goodbye" is "Sla/n". Fiu/ ma/s ar bheaga/n chumais tu/, glac do mhisneach chugat fe/in agus bain triail as an me/id Gaeilge ata/ agat. Bi/ ag caint! [No matter how little Irish you have, take your courage in your hands and try out what you know. Talk!] Also available is TOUR_IRELAND, a new echo aimed at intending vistors who would like some information on where to go and things to see! Interested? Want a feed? Contact David Doyle or Sean Mac Suibhne on 2:263/151! And last of all a Happy Birthday to Region 26 - we were 1 last week! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Announcing MAILBAG, by Charles Lasitter, 1:3641/1.206 This is a mail conference about the production and mass distribution of letters, magazines and advertising circulars. This conference is oriented towards computerized processing of lists and production of computer letters and labels. The conference also covers postal regulations and matters of printing and design relating to compliance with those regulations. The conference is open to discussions concerning mailings of 200 pieces or more. This excludes single-piece 1st class, 3rd class, and parcels, but little else. The conference is primarily oriented towards domestic US mailings. Extensive discussions of international mailings and any discussion of mailings originating and destinating outside US should be conducted elsewhere. Topics on computerized processing includes areas such as Zip+4 and other postal code assignments. It also covers postal barcoding, walk sequencing, CASS certification, National Change of Address processing, automated ACS participation, Manifest Postage Payment, Optional Procedure, Drop Shipping, Palletization and Destination entry. Other areas of computerized processing include file conversion and duplicate detection (merge/purge), ink jet and other methods of addressing, and address standardization. FidoNews 9-15 Page 12 13 Apr 1992 The conference will also address topics involving current and proposed postal regulations, and to a lesser extent how changes in work rules or other results of collective bargaining might change the flow of mail. With 750,000 postal employees and numerous bargaining units in the US, conference participants will be required to maintain civility in any discussions of these latter areas. No ad-hominem ("Union Brothers vs Scabs") attacks will be tolerated. Distribution will be private until sufficient interest warrants otherwise. Net-Mail Richard Lee, 1:3641/1 to get plugged in. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Progressive BBS Listing to be Made By Randy Edwards, 1:128/105.0 New news! We're in the process of starting a Progressive BBS listing! This listing will allow BBS's oriented towards progressive topics to easily locate each other, and it'll help inform users of your BBS's particular interest or specialty. Now, 'Progressive' is defined as 'oriented towards progress,' and in general terms, defines bulletin board systems of liberal, left, and/or progressive political leanings. If you run a system specializing in topics such as: left politics, civil liberties, human rights, alternative news, labor union news or organizing, 'third world' communications, protecting our environment, or any other 'progressive'-type issue, then we'd love to list your BBS in our listing. However, if your system specializes in racism, KKK cheerleading, republican party support, libertarian politics, voodoo economics, slash-and-burn agriculture, etc., then sorry, we won't list your BBS. If you would like to have your system added to the Progressive BBS Listing, please send an addition (see below) by e-mail to: FidoNet : 1:128/105.0 Internet : Randy.Edwards@f105.n128.z1.fidonet.org. BBS data phone : 1-719-392-7781, 300-9600 HST V42bis/MNP Location : Colorado Springs, Colorado, U.S.A. You may also enter a BBS addition to the list by directly dialing up the BBS listed above and entering the addition in as a message. Please submit BBS additions using the following format specs, and including the following information: FidoNews 9-15 Page 13 13 Apr 1992 +----------------------------- Cut Here ---------------------------+ BBS Name: [25 characters ] Sysop: [25 characters ] Phone/Node: [50 characters ] Baud Rate/Modem: [50 characters ] Location: [50 characters ] Primary Focus: [50 characters ] Up to 5 Comment lines, of 60 characters each: : [60 characters ] : [60 characters ] : [60 characters ] : [60 characters ] : [60 characters ] +----------------------------- Cut Here ----------------------------+ If your entry does not fit into this format, it may be editted to fit, or not be entered into the list, depending on the individual entry and how far off the specs the entry actually is. This BBS list will be distributed under the 'CopyLeft' concept. In other words, it'll be distributed as widely as possible but any commercial use is forbidden. A current version of this BBS list will always be FidoNet file- request available using the "magic" name of "PROGLIST" from FidoNet node 1:128/105. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns, feel free to contact me, Randy Edwards, at FidoNet 1:128/105.0. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 9-15 Page 14 13 Apr 1992 ====================================================================== LATEST VERSIONS ====================================================================== Latest Greatest SoftWare Versions Latest Update: 01/27/92 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MS-DOS Systems -------------- BBS Software NodeList Utilities Compression Name Version Name Version Utilities -------------------- -------------------- Name Version ADTBBS 1.50@ EditNL 4.00 -------------------- Aurora 1.32b FDND 1.10 ARC 7.12 DMG 2.93 MakeNL 2.31 ARJ 2.20 DreamBBS 1.05 Parselst 1.33 LHA 2.13 Fido/FidoNet 12.21 Prune 1.40 PAK 2.51 Genesis Deluxe 3.2 SysNL 3.14 PKPak 3.61 GSBBS 3.02 XlatList 2.90 PKZip 1.10 Kitten 1.01 XlaxNode/Diff 2.53 Lynx 1.30 Maximus-CBCS 2.00 Merlin 1.39n Other Utilities(A-M) Other Utilities(N-Z) Opus 1.73a* Name Version Name Version Oracomm 5.M.6P@ -------------------- -------------------- Oracomm Plus 6.E@ 2DAPoint 1.50* Netsex 2.00b PCBoard 14.5a 4Dog/4DMatrix 1.18 OFFLINE 1.35 Phoenix 1.07* ARCAsim 2.31 Oliver 1.0a ProBoard 1.20* ARCmail 3.00* OSIRIS CBIS 3.02 QuickBBS 2.75 Areafix 1.20 PKInsert 7.10 RBBS 17.3b ConfMail 4.00 PolyXarc 2.1a RemoteAccess 1.11* Crossnet 1.5 QM 1.00a SimplexBBS 1.05 DOMAIN 1.42 QSort 4.04 SLBBS 2.15C* DEMM 1.06 RAD Plus 2.11 Socrates 1.11 DGMM 1.06 Raid 1.00 SuperBBS 1.12* DOMAIN 1.42 RBBSMail 18.0 SuperComm 0.99 EEngine 0.32 ScanToss 1.28 TAG 2.5g EMM 2.11* ScMail 1.00 TBBS 2.1 EZPoint 2.1 ScEdit 1.12 TComm/TCommNet 3.4 FGroup 1.00 Sirius 1.0x Telegard 2.7* FidoPCB 1.0s@ SLMail 2.15C TPBoard 6.1 FNPGate 2.70 SquishMail 1.00 TriTel 2.0* GateWorks 3.06e StarLink 1.01 WildCat! 3.02* GMail 2.05 TagMail 2.41 WWIV 4.20 GMD 3.10 TCOMMail 2.2 XBBS 1.77 GMM 1.21 Telemail 1.5* GoldEd 2.31p TGroup 1.13 GROUP 2.23 TIRES 3.11 Network Mailers GUS 1.40 TMail 1.21 Name Version Harvey's Robot 4.10 TosScan 1.00 -------------------- HeadEdit 1.18 UFGATE 1.03 BinkleyTerm 2.50 HLIST 1.09 VPurge 4.09e D'Bridge 1.30 IMAIL 1.20 WEdit 2.0@ Dreamer 1.06 InterPCB 1.31 WildMail 2.00 FidoNews 9-15 Page 15 13 Apr 1992 Dutchie 2.90c ISIS 5.12@ WMail 2.2 FrontDoor 2.02 Lola 1.01d WNode 2.1 InterMail 2.01 Mosaic 1.00b XRS 4.99 Milqtoast 1.00 MailBase 4.11a@ XST 2.3e PreNM 1.48 MSG 4.5* YUPPIE! 2.00 SEAdog 4.60 MSGED 2.06 ZmailH 1.25 SEAmail 1.01 MsgLnk 1.0c ZSX 2.40 TIMS 1.0(mod8) MsgMstr 2.03a MsgNum 4.16d MSGTOSS 1.3 OS/2 Systems ------------ BBS Software Other Utilities(A-M Other Utilities(N-Z) Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- Kitten 1.01 ARC 7.12 oMMM 1.52 Maximus-CBCS 2.00 ARC2 6.01 Omail 3.1 SimplexBBS 1.04.02+ ConfMail 4.00 Parselst 1.33 EchoStat 6.0 PKZip 1.02 EZPoint 2.1 PMSnoop 1.30 Network Mailers FGroup 1.00 PolyXOS2 2.1a Name Version GROUP 2.23 QSort 2.1 -------------------- LH2 2.11 Raid 1.0 BinkleyTerm 2.50 MSG 4.2 Remapper 1.2 BinkleyTerm(S) 2.50 MsgEd 2.06c SquishMail 1.00 BinkleyTerm/2-MT MsgLink 1.0c Tick 2.0 1.40.02 MsgNum 4.16d VPurge 4.09e SEAmail 1.01 Xenix/Unix 386 -------------- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- ARC 5.21 C-LHARC 1.00 MsgEd 2.06 |Contact: Willy Paine 1:343/15,| MSGLINK 1.01 |or Eddy van Loo 2:285/406 | oMMM 1.42 Omail 1.00 ParseLst 1.32 Unzip 3.10 VPurge 4.08 Zoo 2.01 FidoNews 9-15 Page 16 13 Apr 1992 QNX --- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- QTach2 1.09 QMM 0.50s Kermit 2.03 QCP 1.02 NodeList Utilities Archive Utilities QSave 3.6 Name Version Name Version QTTSysop 1.07.1 -------------------- -------------------- SeaLink 1.05 QNode 2.09 Arc 6.02 XModem 1.00 LH 1.00.2 YModem 1.01 Unzip 2.01 ZModem 0.02f Zoo 2.01 Apple II -------- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- DDBBS + 8.0* Fruity Dog 2.0 deARC2e 2.1 GBBS Pro 2.1 ProSel 8.70* ShrinkIt 3.30* |Contact: Dennis McClain-Furmanski 1:275/42| ShrinkIt GS 1.04 Apple CP/M ---------- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- Daisy 2j Daisy Mailer 0.38 Filer 2-D MsgUtil 2.5 Nodecomp 0.37 PackUser 4 UNARC.Com 1.20 Macintosh --------- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Software Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- FBBS 0.91 Copernicus 1.0 ArcMac 1.3 Hermes 1.6.1 Tabby 2.2 AreaFix 1.6 Mansion 7.15 Compact Pro 1.30 Precision Sys. 0.95b EventMeister 1.0 Red Ryder Host 2.1 Export 3.21 Telefinder Host Import 3.2 FidoNews 9-15 Page 17 13 Apr 1992 2.12T10 LHARC 0.41 MacArd 0.04 Mantissa 3.21 Point System Mehitable 2.0 Software OriginatorII 2.0 Name Version PreStamp 3.2 -------------------- StuffIt Classic 1.6 Copernicus 1.00 SunDial 3.2 CounterPoint 1.09 TExport 1.92 MacWoof 1.1 TimeStamp 1.6 TImport 1.92 Tset 1.3 TSort 1.0 UNZIP 1.02c Zenith 1.5 Zip Extract 0.10 Amiga ----- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Software Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- 4D-BBS 1.65 BinkleyTerm 1.00 Areafix 1.48 DLG Pro. 0.96b TrapDoor 1.80 AReceipt 1.5 Falcon CBCS 1.00 WelMat 0.44 ChameleonEdit 0.11 Starnet 1.0q@ ConfMail 1.12 TransAmiga 1.07 ElectricHerald 1.66 XenoLink 1.0 Compression FFRS 1.0@ Utilities FileMgr 2.08 Name Version Fozzle 1.0@ NodeList Utilities -------------------- Login 0.18 Name Version AmigArc 0.23 MessageFilter 1.52 -------------------- booz 1.01 Message View 1.12 ParseLst 1.66 LHARC 1.30 oMMM 1.50 Skyparse 2.30 LhA 1.10 PolyXAmy 2.02 TrapList 1.40 LZ 1.92 RMB 1.30 PkAX 1.00 Roof 46.15 UnZip 4.1 RoboWriter 1.02 Zippy (Unzip) 1.25 Rsh 4.07a Zoo 2.01 Tick 0.75 TrapToss 1.20 |Contact: Maximilian Hantsch 2:310/6| Yuck! 2.02 Atari ST/TT ----------- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- FIDOdoor/ST 2.5.1 BinkleyTerm 2.40n9 ApplyList 1.00@ FiFo 2.1v The Box 1.95* Burep 1.1 LED ST 1.00 ComScan 1.04 MSGED 1.99 ConfMail 4.10 QuickBBS/ST 1.06* NodeList Utilities Echoscan 1.10 FidoNews 9-15 Page 18 13 Apr 1992 Name Version FDrenum 2.5.2 -------------------- FastPack 1.20 Compression ParseList 1.30 Import 1.14 Utilities EchoFix 1.20 oMMM 1.40 Name Version sTICK/Hatch 5.50 Pack 1.00 -------------------- Trenum 0.10 ARC 6.02 LHARC 2.01i PackConvert STZip 1.1* UnJARST 2.00 WhatArc 2.02 Archimedes ---------- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- ARCbbs 1.61 BinkleyTerm ARC 1.20 Odyssey 0.37 2.06f-wimp !AskFor 1.01 RiscBBS 0.9.85m BatchPacker 1.00 DeLZ 0.01 MailED 0.95 NetFile 1.00 ParseLst 1.30 Raul 1.01 !Spark 2.16 !SparkMail 2.08 !SparkPlug 2.14 UnArj 2.21 UnZip 3.00 Zip 1.00 Tandy Color Computer 3 (OS-9 Level II) -------------------------------------- BBS Software Compression Utility Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- RiBBS 2.02+ Ar 1.3 Ascan 1.2 DeArc 5.12 AutoFRL 2.0 OS9Arc 1.0 Bundle 2.2 UnZip 3.10 CKARC 1.1 UnLZH 3.0 EchoCheck 1.01 FReq 2.5a LookNode 2.00 ParseLST PReq 2.2 FidoNews 9-15 Page 19 13 Apr 1992 RList 1.03 RTick 2.00 UnBundle 1.4 UnSeen 1.1 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Key: + - Netmail Capable (Doesn't Require Additional Mailer Software) * - Recently Updated Version @ - New Addition -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- NOTE: 8 Mar 92 FidoNews versions list update process is about to change, once again. It will be taken over by someone else. In the mean time hold onto your hats (and programs). Watch for an announcement within a week or two. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 9-15 Page 20 13 Apr 1992 ====================================================================== FIDONEWS INFORMATION ====================================================================== ------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ---------------- Editors: Tom Jennings, Tim Pozar Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince Perriello "FidoNews" BBS FidoNet 1:1/1 Internet fidonews@fidonews.fidonet.org BBS (415)-863-2739 (9600 HST/V32) (Postal Service mailing address) FidoNews Box 77731 San Francisco CA 94107 USA Published weekly by and for the Members of the FidoNet international amateur electronic mail system. It is a compilation of individual articles contributed by their authors or their authorized agents. The contribution of articles to this compilation does not diminish the rights of the authors. Opinions expressed in these articles are those of the authors and not necessarily those of FidoNews. FidoNews is copyright 1992 Fido Software. All rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances, please contact FidoNews (we're easy). OBTAINING COPIES: FidoNews in electronic form may be obtained from the FidoNews BBS via manual download or Wazoo FileRequest, or from various sites in the FidoNet and via uucp. PRINTED COPIES mailed may be obtained from Fido Software for $5.00US each PostPaid First Class within North America, or $7.00US elsewhere, mailed Air Mail. (US funds drawn upon a US bank only.) Periodic subscriptions are not available at this time; if enough people request it I will implement it. SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews BBS, or Wazoo filerequestable from 1:1/1 as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". FidoNews 9-15 Page 21 13 Apr 1992 "Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered trademarks of Tom Jennings of Fido Software, Box 77731, San Francisco CA 94107, USA and are used with permission. -- END ----------------------------------------------------------------------