F I D O N E W S -- | Vol. 9 No. 4 (27 January 1992) The newsletter of the | FidoNet BBS community | Published by: _ | / \ | "FidoNews" BBS /|oo \ | (415)-863-2739 (_| /_) | FidoNet 1:1/1 _`@/_ \ _ | Internet: | | \ \\ | fidonews@fidonews.fidonet.org | (*) | \ )) | |__U__| / \// | Editors: _//|| _\ / | Tom Jennings (_/(_|(____/ | Tim Pozar (jm) | ----------------------------+--------------------------------------- Published weekly by and for the Members of the FidoNet international amateur network. Copyright 1991, Fido Software. All rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances, please contact FidoNews. Paper price: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $5.00US Electronic Price: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . free! For more information about FidoNews refer to the end of this file. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Table of Contents 1. EDITORIAL ..................................................... 1 Editorial: Less is more ....................................... 1 2. ARTICLES ...................................................... 2 How do I set up a fun, fun, fidonode? ......................... 2 News of the ANEWS Echo ........................................ 3 OLVIEW - An Online GIF Viewer Door For Any BBS ................ 5 SEAmail version 1.10 available electronically ................. 6 Release of ARCMAIL V.3.00 ..................................... 9 KY Genealogy .................................................. 10 Sigh, another untitled article ................................ 12 3. LATEST VERSIONS ............................................... 16 Software List ................................................. 16 4. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .......................................... 22 FidoNews 9-04 Page 1 27 Jan 1992 ====================================================================== EDITORIAL ====================================================================== Editorial: Less is more by Tom Jennings (1:1/1) I think I have used this title before. Nothing else to say here. So I will avoid temptation. Enjoy. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 9-04 Page 2 27 Jan 1992 ====================================================================== ARTICLES ====================================================================== Charlie Baden, 1:207/117.1, P.O. Box 17340, Anaheim CA 92817-7340 I have been moderating an echo (RAILFANS) for over a year now, and have seen it work its way onto the backbone. The actual execution went quickly, the big delay was finding all the docs to do it. And, since I plan to open up a BBS in a month or two, I want to make sure that this time I've got all the docs I need. (We just bought a house and I have to finish getting my "playroom" unpacked and straightened out before I'll let myself set up a computer. Once the computer's plugged in, all housekeeping in the room goes down the tubes...) So, I've been accumulating a list of various files that "every sysop should know about" so that when I become a full-fledged public bbs sysop (instead of just being a pointop), I'll have all the rules and procedures and info at my fingertips. I'd like you all to look over my list, and after you've chuckled at my ignorance (go ahead, chuckle, you're allowed) let me know which vitally important files I've left out. I'm trying to get a list of the NAMES (both magic and otherwise) of various Fidonet documentation files; in particular, those files that a moderator or a new sysop should be familiar with. Is there such a list already available? If not, can anyone add anything to the list I've compiled so far? So far I'm just trying to identify the file names. If you have anything to add, *don't* send me the file, just the name and a brief description of what it is. I'll be freqing them later, after I know what I'm looking for." And I definitely want CORRECTIONS to this list - don't be shy! BACKBONE The latest AREAS.BBS file for the Zone 1 Backbone. BOP Backbone operating policy. (BOP_103.ARC, BOP_103.TXT) ECHODAT * Raw, CSV-format data files for the current EchoList. ELDAT???.LZH ECHOLIST * The EchoList reports. ELIST???.LZH ECHOMOD Moderator update submission instructions. ELMOD???.LZH. ELMOD691.LZH, ELMODUPD.TXT, ELSAMPLE.MSG ECHOPOL The latest draft Zone 1 EchoMail Backbone policy. ECHORULE * Conference Rules File repository. ELRUL???.LZH FIDONET.NA * Backbone echo list FIDOSTAT.NA * It is the list of the current status of requested echos. Fidostat is updated every few days or so, while Fidonet.Na is only updated when there is a change. FNEWS???.LZH * Fidonews. Includes VERSIONS (see below). Fidonews is FidoNews 9-04 Page 3 27 Jan 1992 broadcast via the NEWSCHAT echo as well. GATEWAY1 Gateway procedures to/from Fidonet NETSALL.ART A listing of domains and zones for various networks. NODELIST.??? * Fidonet nodelist POLICY4.NET Overall Fido policy document VERSIONS * Comprehensive Version List, for useful software. VLIST???.LZH Important (?) echos for sysops & moderators: ECHO_REQ (open on a read-only basis to all, write-access sysops only) ZEC (sysops only, a "guaranteed" link to the Zone Echomail Coordinator) MODERATOR (for moderators) NEWSCHAT (open to all; Fidonews is sent in message format on this echo) * Updated regularly, available through established channels (such as 1/201, Backbone, or SDS). Issued weekly, monthly, or "as-needed." The Jan'92 edition is probably (or definitely) going to be different from the Dec'92 edition. Files not flagged with an asterisk are also subject to change, but are believed more stable (and changes are subject to approval). Mostly policy documents. I hope that somebody already thought of this a long time ago, and there's already a list like this... but if not, let's put it together! The assistance of Tony Davis, Paul Knupke Jr., Robert Williamson, Greg Edwards, and others whose names I've misplaced, is gratefully acknowledged. /s/ Charlie Baden; moderator of RAILFANS, potential BBS sysop (early '92). I can be reached through Fidonet at 1:207/117.1; by VOICE at (714) 771-2141, which is my 24-hr Voice Mail number; or by u.s.mail at P.O. Box 17340, Anaheim CA 92817-7340. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- News of the ANEWS Echo By Randy Edwards, 1:128/105.0 A couple of years ago I got sick of hearing about the fact that the USA Today newsrag had decided to go online and to charge Sysops for the fluffy tripe they call news, and I wondered what I could do to bring some different perspectives of news to people. After some thought and talking with some people I decided to start the ANEWS -- an acronym for Alternative News -- echo. FidoNews 9-04 Page 4 27 Jan 1992 The echo started out small, with just some random postings from various alternative newspapers around the country. Over time though, it's grown and changed. There were some periods when ANEWS carried 80 or more news stories per day, but it's calmed down now to a more reasonable 10-20 for the last few months. ANEWS isn't for everyone. Given the fact that our corporate mass media leans to the political right, ANEWS, being an alternative news echo, leans to the political left. ANEWS also doesn't follow the corporate media's definition of the politlcal spectrum, you know, "left = liberal" and "right = conservative." ANEWS recognizes the political spectrum as quite a bit further to the right and left, respectively. To be an ANEWS reader you should be willing to have some preconceptions challenged, and to have an open mind. Looking over some of the news stories we've had run in ANEWS over the last week or so and one will find an interesting hodge-podge of stories and views. For example: - An editorial piece from the Cuban daily newspaper Granma telling the Cuban side of the story of anti-Cuban terrorists landing and being captured in Cuba. - A legislative update from the Friends (Quaker Church) Committee on National Legislative. - News articles describing GM's attempt to pit GM workers at one factory against another by threatening to close one of two factories and then waiting to see which group of workers will take the biggest pay and benefit cuts. - The story of three Mennonite Church workers arrested in Haiti. - Human rights reports on terror by the goverment of Guatemala. - Stories of violence in Russia as people burn the houses and cars of the newly rich class in protest. - Reports of the US economy with angles -- such as the plight of the homeless and poor, unemployed workers resulting from factories closing in order to move out of the US -- that are routinely ignored by the US corporate mass media. And the list goes on and on with more stories being posted every day. Some stories will shock you, some will surprise you, some will anger you -- guaranteed! FidoNews 9-04 Page 5 27 Jan 1992 The ANEWS echo is available on the Zone 1 FidoNet backbone and this news -- unlike the pay system that USA Today uses -- is FREELY available to anyone willing to link into ANEWS. Hope to see you all in ANEWS soon! . Randy Sysop 1:128/105.0 ANEWS Moderator P.S. If anyone is receiving ANEWS in Zones 2 or 3 (or any other zone besides zone 1) please let me know. Thanks. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- by Dennis Dodd SysOp, The Graphics WorkShop BBS, 1:123/57 (Memphis TN) Oh no , just what the world needs. Another door... I would like to announce the availability of OLVIEW - An online GIF viewer door that runs on (almost) any BBS. If you have a lot of GIF traffic on your board this door might be of interest to you. I run a medium size graphics oriented BBS. After having countless callers request a way to view GIFs while online with my board, I decided to research the possibility of writing a door that would allow a caller to preview several GIFs at once while online. The minimum requirements were: 1) Ease of installation and use on the caller's part. 2) Must be easy to install, run on (most) BBS software, and be reliable from the sysop's point of view. 3) Provide the ability to preview several GIFs in under 5 minutes at 2400 baud (regardless of GIF file size). With the release of version 4 of Jay Wherley's GIFDESK, this finally became possible. OLVIEW uses GIFDESK to create a small GIF file which can be viewed while downloading (with Bill Parquet's SHOWGIF shareware). The downsized GIF should take no more than 3-4 minutes to download (at 2400 baud) and will give the receiver a fairly good idea of what the full fledged GIF file will look like. Using OLVIEW, it is possible to "preview" several megabytes of GIF files in only a few minutes; thereby, saving most of the callers limited online time for downloading only the GIFs of interest. OLVIEW will allow the user to choose up to four GIF files at once to be used to make up one downsized (and downloadable) custom GIF file. This downsized file may be viewed offline after transfer using a regular GIF viewer or viewed during the download with SHOWGIF. In other words, its a full-blown 640x480x256 resolution GIF file that has the image of up to four other GIFs in it. The OLVIEW door has become a very popular feature on my board, saving my callers countless hours spent downloading unwanted FidoNews 9-04 Page 6 27 Jan 1992 GIFs. OLVIEW will give the caller a choice of two formats for the created downsized GIF. Small (1.5" x 1.5", approx. size on screen) or medium (2.5" x 2.5"). The actual screen size of each GIF will vary depending upon the resolution of the source GIF file(s). OLVIEW will use X, Y, or Zmodem (DSZ) to transfer the preview GIF with. The type of BBS software you run is purely a matter of personal preference. I purposely wrote OLVIEW to run under DOORWAY so that it may be installed and run on any BBS type supported by DOORWAY (as most popular BBS's are). OLVIEW is freeware and available by FREQing 'OLV100.ZIP' from: OLV100.ZIP (198k) -------------------- 1:123/31 - USR HST 1:123/57 - USR dual standard Thank you for your time, and happy BBSing! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- System Enhancement Associates, Inc. 520/519@AlterNet, 1:107/519@FidoNet SEAmail version 1.10 SEAmail version 1.10 is now available. Anyone wishing a disk update should contact System Enhancement Associates, Inc. However, anyone with SEAmail version 1.02 can upgrade their system FREE OF CHARGE, electronically. Simply change to your SEAmail directory and give the command: upgrade 102to110 and your system will upgrade itself to version 1.10. Anyone with version 1.02 of SEAmail for OS/2 should instead give the command: upgrade sm110p SEAmail version 1.10 incorporates the following changes: * The "yes/no" dialog boxes in CFGEDIT and MAIL no longer pause when you select the default answer by pressing "Enter". FidoNews 9-04 Page 7 27 Jan 1992 * The network server was leaving DTR low when Caller*ID is used, which prevented most modems from answering the phone. This should now be fixed. * Under certain curcumstances, the standard session handler could be fooled into thinking that it needed to process an REQ file on an inbound call when it really didn't. This should now be fixed. * A bug was detected in echomail support that could cause messages to be placed in the wrong folders. This should now be fixed. Also, echomail support in general has been greatly enhanced, and includes a new echomail folder type in MAIL (complete with an echomail link editor). * Return receipts and audit trail receipts were being generated with no text. This should now be fixed. * Scroll boxes should now "wrap" properly. That is, going up from the top should now take you to the bottom, and vice versa. * A bug was detected that caused dialog boxes with shadow text to work improperly when the shadow text completely filled the input area. This should now be fixed in all cases. * Hitting "tab" to resolve a filename template did not work if there was more than one filename template in the input box, or if the filename template had a leading exclamation mark. This should now be fixed. * Automatic rerouting to local destinations was not working properly. This should now be fixed. * It is now possible to delete a message while it is packed for transmission. Go into the packet editor (run TWEAKPKT, or hit Alt-P while SEAmail is running), select a packet containing the message and press Enter to view the packet. Now highlight the message to delete and hit the DEL key. * DIAL now gives a notice at startup telling the user that the INS, DEL, and END keys can be used to alter the dialing list. * Null modem connections should now start up easier. We are allowing five seconds for the system on the other end to respond. * Systems that have a null modem as their primary modem no longer need to give a destination system for GET, SEND, or POLL. * The DIAL terminal program can now be told to mask parity. This can be useful when calling commercial services such as CompuServe and BIX. FidoNews 9-04 Page 8 27 Jan 1992 * The DIAL program now has the ability to dump the clipboard to a file. This allows you to save the filenames and comments to help remember what you downloaded. The clipboard must be dumped BEFORE you end a terminal session. * The DIAL program was not always "hanging up" at the end of a null modem session, hich would leave the other end of the null modem cable thinking that it was still connected. This is now fixed. * The GET and SEND commands would not work for addresses with unpublished phone numbers, even when the /X (ignore errors) option was given. This has now been fixed. * MAIL was disregarding editing of the "To:" field during original message entry. This has now been fixed. * Under special circumstances unlikely to happen anywhere but here, SECURE1 would undo autorouting of received secured messages. This should now be fixed. * SECURE1 was securing null messages under certain circumstances, resulting in real messages being sent where virtual messages were intended. This should now be fixed. * Under certain circumstances where ambiguous pong data was received, GroupMail ping reports would omit some participating systems. This has now been fixed. * Sound support has been added for the Sound Blaster card (MS-DOS version only). If your SOUND.CFG file contains a BLASTER command, then SEAmail will attempt to use the Sound Blaster speaker for playing sounds. * The RENUMBER program can now be used to renumber messages in a specified message folder. * NLCOMP no longer deletes node list difference files. If you are using EDITNL by Ben Baker to apply difference files, you should be sure to use the /C (cleanup) option. * CFGEDIT now has an explicit installation prompt for use on local area networks. * The session handlers would log loss of carrier as an error under circumstances where it does not really constitute an error condition. This has not been fixed. * A new program, STATUS.EXE, has been added to give a continuously updated report of what the various lines of a multiline system are doing. FidoNews 9-04 Page 9 27 Jan 1992 * Some people have asked for some way to log the contents of the packet database as of a given time. We have added a new program, PACKETS.EXE, to do this. Its output may be displayed on the local console or redirected to a file. * Some programs exhibited truly awful performance on OS/2 machines that do not have a mouse installed. This has now been fixed. * MAIL was using a color combination on the "carbon copies" dialog box that was unreadable on many machines. This has now been fixed. NOTE: There is an error in the UPGRADE.BAT (or UPGRADE.CMD) supplied on SEAmail version 1.02 disks. If you have not done so already, then you should type the command: get UPGRADE.ARC from SEA now and unpack the latest version of the upgrade process before you attempt to apply the version 1.10 upgrade. Also, if you have a USR HST modem, then you may want to edit the entry for SEA in your phone book before you apply the upgrade. The number to use for USR HST modems is (201) 473-2853. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- by Chris Anderson Release of Version 3.00 of ARCMAIL A new version of ARCMAIL is now available for distribution. This version is a replacement for ARCMAIL versions 0.60 thru 2.07. Left to its own devices, it will function precisely as has the previous version (2.07), upon whose code it was based. My thanks to Thom Henderson for making the code available for this update. New functionality has been added to version 3.0 that may be of interest to current users, especially converts to SEAmail and those who are required to deal with multiple file archive types. A configuration file may be used to extend the abilities of ARCMAIL in the following manner: 1) Handles file attach messages properly for any of the SEA mailer packages. This includes the older versions (4.1) that require an attach message, newer versions (4.5+) that require no attach message, and SEAmail, which requires an attach message with the filename preceded by a "!" in the subject line in order to delete the file after transmission. FidoNews 9-04 Page 10 27 Jan 1992 2) Allows the selection of either Base36 or "Version 0" extensions on a node-by-node basis. This means that you can handle both types on a single ARCMAIL TO pass. 3) Allows the selection of numerous archive formats for both inbound (ARCMAIL FROM) and outbound (ARCMAIL TO) archives, selectable on a node-by-node basis. All archive types can be created or extracted as necessary on a single ARCMAIL TO or ARCMAIL FROM pass. This option is especially important for SEAmail users who are otherwise confined to the internal call to ARC that is generated by the ARCMAIL verb in ROUTE.CFG. 4) Both file extension and archiver type defaults can be modified. Parameters may be used as found in the CONFIG.DOG file, and may be supplimented by those found in the ARCMAIL.CFG file. Any parameter found in the ARCMAIL.CFG file will override that found on a command line or in the CONFIG.DOG file. Documentation is provided with the package which may be file requested via either Bark or *.REQ format to 1:104/114@FidoNet as ARCMAIL3.ARC. The files are archived in ARC version 6 format. This package will also be distributed by SDS on or shortly after 2/1/92. Questions and suggestions regarding the package should either be addressed to 1:104/114 via NetMail, or can be addressed in the ARCMAIL support area set up for the purpose on the BBS. The number for the BBS is (303)652-3595, 24hrs, HST/V.32. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- GENEALOGY and TECHNOLOGY by Charles E. Darnell Well, do they really mix? Yes! With the help of your computer. Kentucky will celebrate its 200 year birthday in 1992 and many of our counties have things planned with their historical or genealogical societies. While many of our citizens have been doing genealogy research for many years few have used the computer to help with the research, record keeping or letter writing that's involved. Our younger generations have the knowledge for using the computer; but, little interest in genealogy. Seems we need to mix the two together in order to preserve the next 200 years of our history. There is help here in Louisville. The "Livewire" Bulletin Board FidoNews 9-04 Page 11 27 Jan 1992 Service (BBS) offers the FIDO network genealogy ECHO to everyone who would like to log on and use this service. While you do need a computer and a modem most everything else can be obtained from the BBS. Ask a friend to download the shareware program "TELIX" and you have an excellent communications package that even includes the fast ZMODEM protocol. Next, call the Livewire BBS at (502)933-4725 and follow the instructions. Select the Special Interest Group (SIG) area and view the three different forums available. There's a local area for queries here in Louisville; The FIDO network for connections around the globe; and finally, the Who's Got What (WGW) area. Try logging on the BBS a couple of times and if that doesn't work call me at (502)499-6848 for help. I'm the genealogy SIG monitor and will try to help any way I can. This service is free and we're trying to build the interest in genealogy and the FIDO ECHO capability here in Louisville. Our files are few, at the moment, but give us a chance and watch us grow. Remember Livewire BBS at (502)933-4725; SYSOP: Allen Prunty. This is a free BBS service. ------ Note from Allen Prunty, SysOp of the LiveWire BBS. The LiveWire has a healthy selection of Genealogy files... Feel free to FREQ FILES from 2320/110 to see what I have, the system will accept 9600 baud calls from any v.32 or HST modem. You can also FREQ any given file from the LiveWire BBS. You can also access Genealogy message bases from both FidoNet and the GT Network. We have XRS and QWK compatible doors. Long distance users will be validated within 24 hours. Services added recently is TMS - Tafel Matching Service which helps you to locate other users with information you may need. You can also upload your GEDCOM submissions which will be sent to the LDS church. You may also want to FREQ GBBSLIST from me for a listing of other Genealogy BBS's. There may be one near you. ----------- Tom Feel free to edit this any way you want... you -must- have better skills at editing than I do or you wouldn't be doing this. FidoNews 9-04 Page 12 27 Jan 1992 /* Tomj here -- It's actually not bad to begin with, and I haven't touched it. YOu might notice however that the margins are AFU and should be < 72 columns as per ARTSPEC.DOC ... As to why I am doing this, there is no rational reason I can think of. The human body doesn't seem to remember pain very well. */ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- /* Normally I wouldn't run an anonymous article submission without the author providing me with their name etc (which I will keep confident if they so request) but this one is safe enough. -- tomj */ It's time for the leadership of FidoNet (that means, if you hold a title in FidoNet other than "sysop", this is for you) to hear a little bit from someone on the short end of their political games. Normally I would sign my article, but in this instance I choose not to because I would like to protect third parties mentioned by office. If you knew my address you could track them down. It is not my purpose to embarass, but it is my purpose to wake up some sleepers toward the top of the nodelist. Not that my effort will have any effect or anything... o It seems to me that there is a tremendous inertia against change in FidoNet. Any time anyone proposes a change they must implement the entire thing from start to finish, and at most they may get "No, you should do it this way" for their efforts. A prime example is Aaron Goldblatt's nodelist proposal. He's been plugging away at this thing for a few months now, and has now released the third revision of his standard. He sees a problem in FidoNet and is attempting to do something about it. What has he gotten for his efforts? Some encouragement from the lowly folks without political power, but mostly a lot of poo-pooing from the higher-ups (if they deigned to comment at all). Recently a number of articles have appeared in FidoNews saying that the nodelist is too big (hey, 277 was 1,087,926 bytes, or 1062k long!), and most have suggested general changes (eliminating Pvts, binary formats, etc.), but nothing specific. But Aaron, together with Will Schlichtman, have not only suggested general changes, but they have created an FTSC-type spec document and released it to anybody who wants to FREQ it at 1200+ bps. When asked for numerical analysis, Aaron provided it thanks to Will's conversion program. And he carried out this analysis on his FidoNews 9-04 Page 13 27 Jan 1992 painfully slow 4.77 mHz V20 Zenith Z150 and 66 megabytes of hard drive space. He's the only person I've seen develop an entire nodelist spec document and release it three times, get a conversion program created, and do reasonably rigorus statistical analysis of the savings the format provides. Those of you who want a binary format - how about doing the same? If FidoNet is to improve over what we have now, instead of simply jumping on the bandwagon trashing someone else's idea, create one of your own. Write specs for it. That way, instead of a few people doing all the work, everyone contributes and the whole thing comes out better. Aaron commented on it in FidoNews 806 - information and idea exchange is the purpose of FidoNet. o There is an increasing attitude of NoSlow in FidoNet. Sysops, pointops, and users who have modems which run slower than 9600 are increasingly subjected to criticism by their peers and others because of the slower speed of their hardware. Examples: A net in Zone 1 recently had a discussion about limiting echomail distribution based on modem speed - the slower your modem, the less mail you could get. The idea eventually died, but there was some very bitter debate about it. On one side you saw the 1200 and 2400 bps people, and on the other you had the HSTs, DSs, V.32s, PEPs, H96s, and CSPs. Many nets have a hub-based mail distribution scheme. But those who want to become a hub must have a 9600 bps modem and run CM. I can understand the CM requirement, but what's wrong with a 2400 bps hub feeding other 2400 systems? Yes, SOMEWHERE there will have to be a 2400 <==> 9600 link, but since most nets bring mail in from long distance at 9600, that could be at the local level where costs are smallest. One pointop I talked to felt that he was constantly belittled because of his lack of fast hardware, a situation he has been working to try and correct but lacks funds to do so. His bossnode went to 2400+ only for human callers, so he could file request and get mail from his boss, but not log in as a human caller. Guys, an HST hooked to a 386/33 or Mac IIfx is kind of like raising big horses. Tain't cheap. It seems like those who favor rules like echomail restrictions are the ones who would be least affected by them. We don't all have a modem that can do 100k in less than 60 seconds, nor do we have the funds to pay for one. And -=* OCCASIONALLY *=- there is the pointop who pulls 400k of mail a day at 1200 bps and wants an HST, but can't afford retail on one because he doesn't qualify for the sysop deal - you gotta have a BBS for that, FidoNews 9-04 Page 14 27 Jan 1992 remember? o Lack of information distribution to those affected seems to be a problem as well. I am an active participant in several international confrences, and the departure of Felix Kasza from FidoNet was a surprise to me, if for no other reason than I didn't know who he was or what he did. Felix was an example of the FidoNet unsung hero - someone whose work (often on their own dime) goes unnoticed by the vast majority of people who benefit. I can understand how Felix could get burnt out - I've thought more than once about saving about ten megabytes and deleting every bit of FidoNet and BBS-related material from my system. Not only did I not know who he was, I didn't hear about it from anybody in the *C structure, through which our information is supposed to come, right? Instead, I heard it from the Zone 2 moderator of the INTERUSER echo, and only by chance at that - I was doing a name search for "Moderator" looking for the Zone 1 moderator. There was no note about it in FidoNews 839 - I did a text search for his name and my computer just beeped at me..."Kasza not found!" Is it just me or do we have a problem here? The nickname of Fight-o-Net seems to be true. I'm not going to say that I didn't expect some politiking when I joined, but some of this stuff is insane. Take a look at Pablo Kleinman's article in Fnews 840. I don't know anything about the Zone 1 <> Zone 4 zonegate service embargo - again, this didn't come to me through the *C structure (and I DO pull and read the local sysop information echo) - but I've seen such things happen on a smaller scale, and am not really surprised to see it on an international level. But I think it's deplorable. I wasn't surprised to see Pablo's charge that his offer of providing Zonegating services was declined for political reasons. It happens where I am all the time. A pointop I know wanted to help in an emergency hub crash situation. His offers, unsolicited by anyone and made with the best of intentions, drew what amounted to flames by members of his net. Next time you make a comment - any comment, think about it first. o Echomail distribution is WAAAY too political. I'm from Zone 1, but I've heard reports from very reliable people that there's a big political flap in Zone 2 over echomail payments to TAP. Feeds to entire regions may get cut because some people demand payment for something that -= USED =- to be a hobby. FidoNews 9-04 Page 15 27 Jan 1992 I agree that cost distribution is fair - it's a common practice here in Zone 1, too. But it ought to be done on the net level, not on the region level. There are many places where echos are fed from one region to another on a passthru basis, and cutting feeds to the link would be unfair. For example, a lot of echomail that flows into Estonia goes through Finland. Cut Finland's feed and what happens to Estonia? o Someone commented in a recent FidoNews that we should get rid of all the politickers (was it Pablo Klienman?). I am inclined to agree. When I became a user of a FidoNet BBS about three years ago the same people were running it as they do now. It's true that in my region we've changed RCs once and RECs twice, but it's still the same old gang. The only thing that's different are the titles. I'm tempted to list the people I'm thinking of by name, but will not. It is enough to say that they now hold positions of considerable political power within FidoNet - and they have made more than one node uncomfortable. All of the political crap is driving very good people out of the network, as well. Felix Kasza is the most obvious example that I know of, but also a former NC of a network I'm near. This NC resigned his position (he retains his node address), in part, as a protest to the outcome of a policy complaint filed by him and 27 other individuals. It was rejected, not only on the basis of a technicality (according to POLICY4 only 3 of the 31 signatures were valid) but also for purely political reasons. As I read the response closely I realized that the complaint was rejected not because on a basis in POLICY4, but because of the lack of a policy covering echomail (the partial subject of the complaint). It seems to me that the result was merely protection of someone already holding considerable power within Zone 1. Someone, in a netmail comment, summed up what's going on, and I think the shoe fits. He requested that he not be identified, but I will say that he's a sysop somewhere in Zone 1 (THAT'S a big help, ain't it!). Fidonet dies, slowly and painfully, because of all this bureaucratic nonsense. Next thing we won't even be allowed to send netmail direct to someone outside our own net. It's time to cut out the bull and get back to where we started - a group (okay, a huge group) of people having a good time together. Comments are welcome if you can find me, but please route flames to 1:1/NUL. Have a nice day. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 9-04 Page 16 27 Jan 1992 ====================================================================== LATEST VERSIONS ====================================================================== Latest Greatest SoftWare Versions Latest Update: 01/15/92 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MS-DOS Systems -------------- BBS Software NodeList Utilities Compression Name Version Name Version Utilities -------------------- -------------------- Name Version ADTBBS 1.50@ EditNL 4.00 -------------------- Aurora 1.32b FDND 1.10 ARC 7.12 DMG 2.93 MakeNL 2.31 ARJ 2.20 DreamBBS 1.05 Parselst 1.33 LHA 2.13 Fido/FidoNet 12.21 Prune 1.40 PAK 2.51 Genesis Deluxe 3.2 SysNL 3.14 PKPak 3.61 GSBBS 3.02 XlatList 2.90 PKZip 1.10 Kitten 1.01 XlaxNode/Diff 2.53 Lynx 1.30 Maximus-CBCS 2.00 Merlin 1.39n Other Utilities(A-M) Other Utilities(M-Z) Opus 1.73a* Name Version Name Version Oracomm 5.M.6P@ -------------------- -------------------- Oracomm Plus 6.E@ 2DAPoint 1.50* MsgMstr 2.03a PCBoard 14.5a 4Dog/4DMatrix 1.18 MsgNum 4.16d Phoenix 1.07* ARCAsim 2.31 MSGTOSS 1.3 ProBoard 1.20* ARCmail 2.07 Netsex 2.00b QuickBBS 2.75 Areafix 1.20 OFFLINE 1.35* RBBS 17.3b ConfMail 4.00 Oliver 1.0a RemoteAccess 1.10 Crossnet 1.5 OSIRIS CBIS 3.02@ SimplexBBS 1.05 DOMAIN 1.42 PKInsert 7.10* SLBBS 2.15C* DEMM 1.06 PolyXarc 2.1a Socrates 1.11 DGMM 1.06 QM 1.00a SuperBBS 1.12* DOMAIN 1.42 QSort 4.04 SuperComm 0.99 EEngine 0.32 RAD Plus 2.11 TAG 2.5g EMM 2.11* Raid 1.00 TBBS 2.1 EZPoint 2.1 RBBSMail 18.0 TComm/TCommNet 3.4 FGroup 1.00 ScanToss 1.28 Telegard 2.5 FidoPCB 1.0s@ ScMail 1.00 TPBoard 6.1 FNPGate 2.70 ScEdit 1.12 TriTel 2.0* GateWorks 3.06e Sirius 1.0x WildCat! 3.0* GMail 2.05 SLMail 2.15C WWIV 4.20 GMD 3.10 SquishMail 1.00 XBBS 1.77 GMM 1.21 StarLink 1.01 GoldEd 2.31p TagMail 2.41 GROUP 2.23 TCOMMail 2.2 Network Mailers GUS 1.40 Telemail 1.27 Name Version Harvey's Robot 4.10 TGroup 1.13 -------------------- HeadEdit 1.18 TIRES 3.11 BinkleyTerm 2.50 HLIST 1.09 TMail 1.21 D'Bridge 1.30 IMAIL 1.20 TosScan 1.00 Dreamer 1.06 InterPCB 1.31 UFGATE 1.03 FidoNews 9-04 Page 17 27 Jan 1992 Dutchie 2.90c ISIS 5.12@ VPurge 4.09e FrontDoor 2.02 Lola 1.01d WildMail 2.00 InterMail 2.01 Mosaic 1.00b XRS 4.99 Milqtoast 1.00 MailBase 4.11a@ XST 2.3e PreNM 1.48 MSG 4.5* YUPPIE! 2.00 SEAdog 4.60 MSGED 2.06 ZmailH 1.25 SEAmail 1.01 MsgLnk 1.0c ZSX 2.40 TIMS 1.0(mod8) OS/2 Systems ------------ BBS Software Other Utilities(A-M Other Utilities(N-Z) Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- Kitten 1.01 ARC 7.12 oMMM 1.52 Maximus-CBCS 2.00 ARC2 6.01 Omail 3.1 SimplexBBS 1.04.02+ ConfMail 4.00 Parselst 1.33 EchoStat 6.0 PKZip 1.02 EZPoint 2.1 PMSnoop 1.30 Network Mailers FGroup 1.00 PolyXOS2 2.1a Name Version GROUP 2.23 QSort 2.1 -------------------- LH2 2.11 Raid 1.0 BinkleyTerm 2.50 MSG 4.2 Remapper 1.2 BinkleyTerm(S) 2.50 MsgEd 2.06c SquishMail 1.00 BinkleyTerm/2-MT MsgLink 1.0c Tick 2.0 1.40.02 MsgNum 4.16d VPurge 4.09e SEAmail 1.01 Xenix/Unix 386 -------------- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- BinkleyTerm 2.32b ARC 5.21 C-LHARC 1.00 MsgEd 2.06 |Contact: Willy Paine 1:343/15,| MSGLINK 1.01 |or Eddy van Loo 2:285/406 | oMMM 1.42 Omail 1.00 ParseLst 1.32 Unzip 3.10 VPurge 4.08 Zoo 2.01 QNX --- FidoNews 9-04 Page 18 27 Jan 1992 BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- QTach2 1.09 QMM 0.50s Kermit 2.03 QCP 1.02 NodeList Utilities Archive Utilities QSave 3.6 Name Version Name Version QTTSysop 1.07.1 -------------------- -------------------- SeaLink 1.05 QNode 2.09 Arc 6.02 XModem 1.00 LH 1.00.2 YModem 1.01 Unzip 2.01 ZModem 0.02f Zoo 2.01 Apple II -------- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- DDBBS + 8.0* Fruity Dog 2.0 deARC2e 2.1 GBBS Pro 2.1 ProSel 8.70* ShrinkIt 3.30* |Contact: Dennis McClain-Furmanski 1:275/42| ShrinkIt GS 1.04 Apple CP/M ---------- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- Daisy 2j Daisy Mailer 0.38 Filer 2-D MsgUtil 2.5 Nodecomp 0.37 PackUser 4 UNARC.Com 1.20 Macintosh --------- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Software Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- FBBS 0.91 Copernicus 1.0 ArcMac 1.3 Hermes 1.6.1 Tabby 2.2 AreaFix 1.6 Mansion 7.15 Compact Pro 1.30 Precision Sys. 0.95b EventMeister 1.0 Red Ryder Host 2.1 Export 3.21 Telefinder Host Import 3.2 FidoNews 9-04 Page 19 27 Jan 1992 2.12T10 LHARC 0.41 MacArd 0.04 Mantissa 3.21 Point System Mehitable 2.0 Software OriginatorII 2.0 Name Version PreStamp 3.2 -------------------- StuffIt Classic 1.6 Copernicus 1.00 SunDial 3.2 CounterPoint 1.09 TExport 1.92 MacWoof 1.1 TimeStamp 1.6 TImport 1.92 Tset 1.3 TSort 1.0 UNZIP 1.02c Zenith 1.5 Zip Extract 0.10 Amiga ----- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Software Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- 4D-BBS 1.65@ BinkleyTerm 1.00 Areafix 1.48 DLG Pro. 0.96b TrapDoor 1.80 AReceipt 1.5 Falcon CBCS 1.00 WelMat 0.44 ChameleonEdit 0.11 Paragon 2.082+ ConfMail 1.12 TransAmiga 1.07 ElectricHerald 1.66 XenoLink 1.0 Compression FileMgr 2.08 Utilities GCChost 3.6b Name Version Login 0.18 NodeList Utilities -------------------- MessageFilter 1.52 Name Version AmigArc 0.23 Message View 1.12 -------------------- booz 1.01 oMMM 1.50 ParseLst 1.66 LHARC 1.30 PolyXAmy 2.02 Skyparse 2.30 LZ 1.92 RMB 1.30 TrapList 1.40 PKAX 1.00 Roof 46.15 UnZip 4.1 RoboWriter 1.02 Zippy (Unzip) 1.25 Rsh 4.07a Zoo 2.01 Tick 0.75 TrapToss 1.20 |Contact: Maximilian Hantsch 2:310/6| Yuck! 2.02 Atari ST/TT ----------- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- FIDOdoor/ST 2.5.1 BinkleyTerm 2.40n9 ApplyList 1.00@ FiFo 2.1v The Box 1.95* Burep 1.1 LED ST 1.00 ComScan 1.04 MSGED 1.99 ConfMail 4.10 QuickBBS/ST 1.06* NodeList Utilities Echoscan 1.10 FidoNews 9-04 Page 20 27 Jan 1992 Name Version FDrenum 2.5.2 -------------------- FastPack 1.20 Compression ParseList 1.30 Import 1.14 Utilities EchoFix 1.20 oMMM 1.40 Name Version sTICK/Hatch 5.50 Pack 1.00 -------------------- Trenum 0.10 ARC 6.02 LHARC 2.01i* PackConvert STZIP UnJARST 2.00 WhatArc 2.02 Archimedes ---------- BBS Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- ARCbbs 1.44 BinkleyTerm 2.03 ARC 1.03 RiscBBS 0.9.85m@ BatchPacker 1.00 ParseLst 1.30 !Spark 2.00d Unzip 2.1TH Tandy Color Computer 3 (OS-9 Level II) -------------------------------------- BBS Software Compression Utility Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version -------------------- -------------------- -------------------- RiBBS 2.02 OS9ARC (Arc) 1.0 Ascan 1.2 OS9ARC (Dearc) 1.0 AutoFRL 2.0 DEARC CKARC 1.1 UNZIP 3.10 EchoCheck 1.01 FReq 2.5a LookNode 2.00 ParseLST RList 1.03 RTick 2.00 UnSeen 1.1 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Key: + - Netmail Capable (Doesn't Require Additional Mailer Software) * - Recently Updated Version @ - New Addition -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- FidoNews 9-04 Page 21 27 Jan 1992 The Complete List is Available For FReq as VERSIONS from 1:103/250 Utility Authors: Please help keep this list up to date by reporting all new versions to 1:103/250 in this format: 1) Software Name & Version 2) FileName.Ext 3) Support Node Address 4) Support BBS Phone Number Note: It is not our intent to list all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity. 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