Volume 7, Number 49 3 December 1990 +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | _ | | / \ | | /|oo \ | | - FidoNews - (_| /_) | | _`@/_ \ _ | | FidoNet (r) | | \ \\ | | International BBS Network | (*) | \ )) | | Newsletter ______ |__U__| / \// | | / FIDO \ _//|| _\ / | | (________) (_/(_|(____/ | | (jm) | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Editor in Chief: Vince Perriello Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings Copyright 1990, Fido Software. All rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances, please contact Fido Software. FidoNews is published weekly by and for the Members of the FidoNet (r) International Amateur Electronic Mail System. It is a compilation of individual articles contributed by their authors or authorized agents of the authors. The contribution of articles to this compilation does not diminish the rights of the authors. You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in FidoNews. Article submission standards are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC, available from node 1:1/1. 1:1/1 is a Continuous Mail system, available for network mail 24 hours a day. Fido and FidoNet are registered trademarks of Tom Jennings of Fido Software, Box 77731, San Francisco CA 94107, USA and are used with permission. Opinions expressed in FidoNews articles are those of the authors and are not necessarily those of the Editor or of Fido Software. Most articles are unsolicited. Our policy is to publish every responsible submission received. Table of Contents 1. ARTICLES ................................................. 1 Stretching the truth in print ............................ 1 Responses, decentralization, the USA, cards, and koans ... 3 The 'GhostNET' Echo ...................................... 7 Universal Mayhem Update .................................. 8 PITStop, NEW racing echo ................................. 10 WORLDTALK: UNITEX REVISTED ............................... 11 2. LATEST VERSIONS .......................................... 13 Latest Software Versions ................................. 13 3. NOTICES .................................................. 18 The Interrupt Stack ...................................... 18 FidoNews 7-49 Page 1 3 Dec 1990 ================================================================= ARTICLES ================================================================= Jack Decker 1:154/8 STRETCHING THE TRUTH IN PRINT I've said it before... it's my belief that FidoNews should not be the vehicle for articles on all sorts of "issues of the day." Apparently the current editor disagrees with me, though, and his opinion is the one that counts. All right. Here's some help for those of us who have to sit and read all of this and wonder if we are getting straight news or pure propaganda, or something in between. I'm going to ask you to spend a few moments of your time and fifteen cents on a postcard (maybe a bit more if you're outside of the U.S.A.) to request a reprint of some articles that show how media bias can creep into news reporting. It shows, among other things, how certain words or phrases can be (and have been) used or avoided in order to influence public opinion, all under the guise of objective reporting. Right about now you may be thinking "I suppose he's going to ask me to write to some ultra-conservative group or some abortion rights organization to get their slant on media bias" (especially if you've read some of my previous comments in FidoNews). But if I did that, you'd immediately dismiss it as the writings of some fringe group that you don't agree with anyway. Sorry, but if that's what you were thinking, I'm afraid I'm going to disappoint you. Instead, I'm going to ask you to write to that great ultra-conservative(?) publication, the (ahem) Los Angeles Times. You see, a reporter named David Shaw wrote a series of articles for the L.A. Times that detailed how media bias has seeped into the reporting of the abortion issue. Now you may say "my mind is already made up on abortion", but that's not what these articles are really all about. Rather, what these articles prove is that you can take an issue - really ANY issue - and put a slant on your reporting that at first blush seems objective enough, but that in reality strongly favors one side or another. Every student of journalism, and anyone who is now employed (or hopes to someday be employed) as an editor, a reporter, or in some other capacity in the field of journalism would do well to read this report. Keep in mind that it isn't just the abortion issue that's often reported in a biased manner. Reporters take up all sorts of causes, and can inadvertently inject their own beliefs and values into what they report. Editors can edit stories to reflect a particular viewpoint, or can decline to run stories favorable to one side or the other. If they can do it with the issue of abortion, they can do it with a cause near FidoNews 7-49 Page 2 3 Dec 1990 and dear to your heart as well. To request a free copy of David Shaw's series on abortion bias in the media, you may write to: L.A. Times Public Relations Times Mirror Square Los Angeles, California 90053 ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 7-49 Page 3 3 Dec 1990 Garth Kidd 3:680/803 Responses, decentralization, the USA, cards, and koans. Wow. I wasn't quite expecting this reaction. Well, I was in a way: I thought that nobody in Zone 3 would comment, because they never read FidoNews, and I was absolutely right on that one. Instead, I've got someone from Zone 4 telling me how much of a reaction my article got down there! And that nice Mr K Bychin said some stuff that caught my mind. ______________________________ To: all those doods in Zone 1. ______________________________ (and none of these "it's spelt `dude'" complaints, either:-) In Zone 1, I get the distinct impression that the host calls out to all of the nodes to do the mail session, right? Wierd. I guess you have the option of doing that, since you have free local calls. Sure, the "local calls" area is the size of a peanut, but they're free, right? I think I've just realised why a lot of Z1 nethosts don't like the idea of people switching nets. They've got this odd idea that they'd have to make another phone call. This had simply never occurred to me. Here in Zone 3, (and I guess it happens in 2 and 4..infinity as well), we have to pay for our phone calls. All of the nodes call the host. We have to juggle things a little to avoid conflicts, but apart from when new nodes are introduced, we manage to avoid each other pretty damn well. I think we also have a better relationship with our Host, since he doesn't have to do \everything\. Oh yeah: here in N680, and many others, we also pay for our echomail. My echomail bill works out at about $5 a week, for quite a few echoes, which is just about nothing for the pretty damn good service we get. Everyone is happy, especially the host, who doesn't have an albatross named "phone bill" around his neck. This saves him lots of money, which he keeps spending on hardware to make the feed more efficient, the silly fool :-). FidoNews 7-49 Page 4 3 Dec 1990 You might want to consider it, guys. Take some load off your host and make the call from your end. It's pretty damn easy: add a single event to your control files, and bingo. The call is, no doubt, free for you as well, so it's no money off your back. Every now and again, estimate your share of the amount of money your host is spending on phone bills bringing your favourite echoes in, and \send the cash in\. There's some excellent billing software out there that figures it all out (at the host's end), and makes everything a lot more fair. This might, IMHO, make the nethosts feel a little better. It might also lead to the dropping of this bloody silly "physical location" rule for which net you join, since it's not going to add any huge load to the host you switch to. Once that's happened, MAYBE FidoNet stands a chance of being democratic. === Decentralization, n: in FidoNet, a damn good idea. Ta for the introduction, Vince. As I said, I wasn't quite expecting the reaction. No abuse whatsoever. Amazing. :-/ Back to your idea of lots of domains: if you think the technology can handle it, great! You'll have to fix that extremely stupid document regulating gateways, though, or all hell will break loose. All that needs to be said is "dupe loops are a bad idea, and if you're responsible for one, big trouble." Technology-wise, I don't think Type 2 is really equipped to handle multiple domain work if it's commonplace, at least with the current batch of software. For it to be possible, you'd need at least for everyone to be running the latest version of the software, which is hard enough to do these days. [aparrently, there's some *C out there who insists on using a not-quite-compatible homebrew mailer, which is creating amazing problems with everybody downstream. Of course, they can't switch *C, can they? Nor can they vote him out. This is what I'd like to see fixed] Type 3 software should be seriously looked at. jim's proposal needs some modification, but it's basically sound IMHO, and even the most lowly Commodore 64 should be able to handle it. The wonderful thing about Type 3 would be that we'd be able to drag a significant amount of the net up to a respectable level of compatibility and effectiveness in a relatively short amount of time. FidoNews 7-49 Page 5 3 Dec 1990 How to introduce it: I'd say you firstly ensure that all Type 3 software can also handle Type 2 packets and messages. You might want to turn that option off, but it'll be there. Then you make source for 2<>3 packet/message converters available. Finally, you set a date by which all non-leaf nodes MUST convert to Type 3. Make it a LONG way in the future, and WELL after we've managed to prove that the thing works. Setting a date is pretty harsh stuff, but it's (IMHO) the only way to work. The non-leaf rule should be pretty obvious: there's almost definitely going to be someone running Type 2 software on some archaic, uncommon machine, and they won't be good enough at programming to port Type 3 over to their machines. All we want to do is make sure that they're not routing mail to anyone, since we want to make \sure\ that the advantages of Type 3 aren't lost because of some diehard Type 2 user stuck in the middle of the chain. Another method: form another network (entirely type 3), and have it slowly take over. You should be able to figure out the pros and cons for that one yourself. 'nuff rambling on this topic. Keep talking, people. === Tom, you're absolutely correct. The United States government and secret services are being absolutely amazingly awful as far as it comes to treating your rights, and it's not only in the electronic mail arena, either. I'm just glad I'm not in the USA. The only thing I can suggest is to get the silent majority up and yelling that you want CHANGE. If you don't yell, you should expect the rabidly conservative to try and restrict your life to the point you can't move. You should also expect them to succeed unopposed, since you're all sitting back being quiet. I just hope it doesn't happen here in Australia. === Henry: if you can find a Unix box out there you can play with, swap the idle process for one that does your card simulations. Also, have it keep track of the maximum and average "$ down" amounts. If you can only succeed with $10,000 in your pocket, it's no good. I'd love a copy of your source, though. === A new koan: If you have some ice cream, I will give it to you. FidoNews 7-49 Page 6 3 Dec 1990 If you have no ice cream, I will take it away from you. It is an ice cream koan. Thanks for your time. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 7-49 Page 7 3 Dec 1990 Chris Mayer, Ghostbusters Central (415) 933-4937 FIDO 1:161/303 CandyNET 42:1069/303 The GhostNET Echo Yes, another echo is out, and its called 'GhostNET'. This new echo is a serious attempt at disscussing topics relating to paranormal occurences, Extrasensory Perception, Psychokinesis, Psychics, and more. Now that I've got you confused, here are the basic requirements. It requires real names and ANSI codes are to be stripped. To recieve this echo, send netmail to Chris Mayer at 1:161/303. More details will be included through netmail at your request. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 7-49 Page 8 3 Dec 1990 Universal Mayhem Update Fredric Rice 1:102/901.0 presents Killing People Over The Dial-Up Network Universal Mayhem has been under heavy development since the version 2.0 release a couple of months ago. We are, in fact, soon to mail version 2.3 to every known Mayhem site as soon as some test time is found. Known sites (those that are in the MAYHEM echo) are: 128/74 365/47 104/112 151/806 107/540 124/3220 207/204 231/290 209/735 345/15 135/79 282/51 143/8 3622/56 141/68 105/112 19/15 133/110 224/60 100/380 369/26 350/726 102/851 102/833 396/24 250/726. (8842/0 8842/1 8842/2: my private international nodes). If you don't see your node listed when it should be, now you know why you haven't been getting the echo mail! Give me a call and I'll fix it right away. There are two known sites in Germany and several in Australia; only one of which currently receives the MAYHEM echo. The German site that I interface to is difficult to connect to and generally requires many calls to send a single packet. I attribute this problem to my long distance carrier line quality. Who can say? Regardless, MAYHEM is now considered international in scope. There are an estimated 240 sites running Mayhem world-wide. This count is computed on the total File Requests and File Attaches in my log files and the messages and letters received from sites I haven't listed above. Israel is running an old 1.5 version and will be updated when 2.3 comes out. The several reported bugs have been fixed though not fully tested. Friendly ships that warp in to assist an allied ship does not get fired on and does not automatically attack a friendly ship anymore. More importantly, the export and import of ships (cannon fodder) from other sites finally works and the File Attaches now actually works - now that I read the Technical document for the message headers attribute field and implemented the damn thing. I should add that Mayhem sites need-not be tied to each other to run Mayhem. It's quite acceptable to run Mayhem entirely local to a single system. There have been BILLIONS and BILLIONS of little fixes and updates that are primarily 'tweakings' of the code after suggestions from the various sites were considered. When version 2.3 is mailed out, a file briefly listing the updates performed will be mail with it. Speed of start-up and execution has also been worked on and some of the colors made less gaudy. FidoNews 7-49 Page 9 3 Dec 1990 If you want to try the thing, you can request MAYHEM20.ZIP or it would probably be a better idea to send a message asking for version 2.3 when it's tested and released. If you would like to get into the MAYHEM echo, let me know. I am now down to polling all known sites once a week rather than the original three times a week (my wife threatened to toss my ass out along with the phone bills if I didn't stop. I threatened to stop cooking her dinners if I got thrown out -- we compromised. I'll poll once a week and burn a third of her dinners). You can also use the list above to find out what the closest site that has it is and see if it can feed you, of course. A Sad Note -- A Software God here where I work has reported seeing Mayhem version 2.0 being sold at a local swap-meet. I have never charged a cent for my efforts (I return contributions) and I don't allow other people to make money on my lost sleep. I ask that _anyone_ who sees my work being sold to get a name and license plate number of the criminal and let me know about it; along with any other information you can come up with. Because I don't charge for the product, I can't claim lost income but I can sure as hell launch a class-action suit and recover punitive damages for these people selling my copywritten software -- it's not released as Public Domain or into the Public Domain. If I want it sold, I'll do it myself. Be it understood that Mayhem remains mine and as my property, I reserve the right to deny any 'company' or people who sell my work the right to have it. It must be distributed in a free and friendly manor as I have always done in the past. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 7-49 Page 10 3 Dec 1990 AllNighter BBS FidoNet 1:167/173 PITStop ======= If you're a motosports fan, then this echo is for you. A forum where you can share talk about the best sport around, Motor- racing. Schedules Results Score boards Technical analysis Mechanical aspects Racing hints Fan Support are but a few of the topics in this forum. All types of motor- sports will be covered, from the down-south Winston and NASCAR stockers, to the international world of Grand-Prix, the Indy cars, fiery dragsters and news of interest from the grass roots local 1/4 mile ovals. If you are interested in taking part or would like to get more details on this new racing forum please send a Netmail message to me, Marc Patrick Roy 1:167/173@fidonet.org Thanks for your support, and we hope to see at the next PITStop! ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 7-49 Page 11 3 Dec 1990 James Waldron 1:107/501 NEW ECHOMAIL CONFERENCE: WORLDTLK Description and Summary of the WORLDTLK Echo. The 'original' UNITEX conference is available now as AreaTag: WORLDTLK on the FidoNet backbone. The UNITEX echomail conference is changing it's name to WORLDTLK and will be revamping its agenda and will include articles from other international news agencies and journalists in addition to the United Nations Weekly Summaries and other UN news bulletins that are of topical interest and concern and have global ramifications. All recent UN Resolutions will be posted as well as any speeches from Heads of State addressing the UN General Assenbly. As you will read below, this conference can be both extremely informative, from a user or reader's perspective, as well as provide a forum and mecahnism for feedback to what has become an international and global crisis: The Situation in the Gulf. The United Nations, now more than ever, is taking a very active role in World Affairs and this conference can, in a 'real sense' be a WORLD TALK forum with a political reality. It is necessary to know what is going on from a source level. The televison and press media can only cover a certain perspective. This conference will bring you articles and news covewrage not usually seen in our media. WORLDTLK is NOT a read-only conference but there are certain guidelines and protocols that will be published from time to time as Conference Rules. The WORLDTLK Moderator is Dr. James Waldron 1;107/501. Co-moderators are Esty Dinur and Jeff Laranger both at 1:121/99 User postings, especially of the journalistic variety, are welcome. Try to stay on topic with the current trend of subject headers. Inquiries, thoughtful or provocative questions, and other related news articles will be answered by the WorldTlk Moderators or online readers. Postings by other agencies, such as the Wind Energy Forum, Audobon or the Sierra Club are certainly welcome on the environmental topics, as are postings by World Perspectives on the international political scene. Articles will range from UN Security Council Resolutions and UN Press Releases to international news on the environment, The UNCED (UN Conference for Environmental Development), Laws of the Sea, Treaty and Boundary Agreements, the Crisis in the Gulf, weekly summaries of the UN General Assembly and timely publications from other international and independent press associations. The United Nations news will be posted by UNITEX Communications. FidoNews 7-49 Page 12 3 Dec 1990 Other issues include: current developments and economic trends in the European Economic Community (EEC), Human Rights, peaceful and safe utilization of atomic energy, reports from the World Bank, World Health Organization, Africa, Central & Latin America, and several other areas of concern facing the developing nations. The idea is to present several authoratative views of current news crisis and trends via real 'hard news' and professional journalism using varying international sources, including news briefings from the United Nations and other governmental agencies and have a forum for readers to reply to and ask questions. The topics will vary depending on the current world political situation, among other things. If you are a sysop and are reading this it would be appreciated to pass this information on to your readers. If you want to link into WORLDTLK and have echomail link(s) already in place for UNITEX, simply change the name from UNITEX to WORLDTLK and retain all the links. If you are new to this conference, simply add the Areatag: WORLDTLK to your areas.bbs and ask for a link from your NEC or HEC, as this is a FidoNet backbone confernce. If you need more information about the conference or the background and history of UNIETX (re: talks or papers UNITEX presented at the United Nations), FileReq UNITEX.ZIP from 1:107/501. In addition, It describes the UNITEX Project that began in 1983 as an experimental pilot-project for dissemination of specialized information using wide-area network technology. James Waldron, 1:107/510 WORLDTLK Moderator ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 7-49 Page 13 3 Dec 1990 ================================================================= LATEST VERSIONS ================================================================= Latest Software Versions MS-DOS Systems -------------- Bulletin Board Software Name Version Name Version Name Version DMG 2.93 Phoenix 1.3 TAG 2.5g Fido 12s+ QuickBBS 2.66 TBBS 2.1 GSBBS 3.01 RBBS 17.3A TComm/TCommNet 3.4 Lynx 1.30 RBBSmail 17.3B Telegard 2.5 Kitten 2.16 RemoteAccess 0.04a TPBoard 6.1 Maximus 1.02 SLBBS 1.77A Wildcat! 2.50 Opus 1.13+ Socrates 1.10 WWIV 4.12 PCBoard 14.5 XBBS 1.15 Network Node List Other Mailers Version Utilities Version Utilities Version BinkleyTerm 2.40 EditNL 4.00 ARC 7.0 D'Bridge 1.30 MakeNL 2.31 ARCAsim 2.30 Dutchie 2.90C ParseList 1.30 ARCmail 2.07 FrontDoor 1.99c Prune 1.40 ConfMail 4.00 PRENM 1.47 SysNL 3.14 Crossnet v1.5 SEAdog 4.51b XlatList 2.90 EMM 2.02 TIMS 1.0(Mod8) XlaxDiff 2.35 Gmail 2.05 XlaxNode 2.35 GROUP 2.16 GUS 1.30 HeadEdit 1.15 InterPCB 1.31 LHARC 1.13 MSG 4.1 MSGED 2.00 MSGTOSS 1.3 PK[UN]ZIP 1.10 QM 1.0 QSORT 4.03 Sirius 1.0x SLMAIL 1.36 StarLink 1.01 TagMail 2.41 TCOMMail 2.2 Telemail 1.27 TMail 1.15 TPBNetEd 3.2 TosScan 1.00 FidoNews 7-49 Page 14 3 Dec 1990 UFGATE 1.03 XRS 3.40 XST 2.2 ZmailQ 1.12 OS/2 Systems ------------ Bulletin Board Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version Maximus-CBCS 1.02 BinkleyTerm 2.40 Parselst 1.32 ConfMail 4.00 EchoStat 6.0 oMMM 1.52 Omail 3.1 MsgEd 2.00 MsgLink 1.0C MsgNum 4.14 LH2 0.50 PK[UN]ZIP 1.02 ARC2 6.00 PolyXARC 2.00 Qsort 2.1 Raid 1.0 Remapper 1.2 Tick 2.0 VPurge 2.07 Xenix/Unix ---------- BBS Software Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version MaximusCBCS 1.02.Unix.B0 BinkleyTerm 2.30b Unzip 3.10 ARC 5.21 ParseLst 1.30b ConfMail 3.31b Ommm 1.40b Msged 1.99b Zoo 2.01 C-Lharc 1.00 Omail 1.00b Apple CP/M FidoNews 7-49 Page 15 3 Dec 1990 ---------- Bulletin Board Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version Daisy v2j Daisy Mailer 0.38 Nodecomp 0.37 MsgUtil 2.5 PackUser v4 Filer v2-D UNARC.COM 1.20 Macintosh --------- Bulletin Board Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version Red Ryder Host 2.1 Tabby 2.2 MacArc 0.04 Mansion 7.15 Copernicus 1.0 ArcMac 1.3 WWIV (Mac) 3.0 LHArc 0.33 Hermes 1.01 StuffIt Classic 1.6 FBBS 0.91 Compactor 1.21 TImport 1.92 TExport 1.92 Timestamp 1.6 Tset 1.3 Import 3.2 Export 3.21 Sundial 3.2 PreStamp 3.2 OriginatorII 2.0 AreaFix 1.6 Mantissa 3.21 Zenith 1.5 Eventmeister 1.0 TSort 1.0 Mehitable 2.0 UNZIP 1.02c Amiga ----- Bulletin Board Software Network Mailers Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version Paragon 2.07+ BinkleyTerm 1.00 AmigArc 0.23 TrapDoor 1.50 AReceipt 1.5 FidoNews 7-49 Page 16 3 Dec 1990 WelMat 0.42 booz 1.01 ConfMail 1.10 ChameleonEdit 0.10 ElectricHerald1.66 Lharc 1.21 MessageFilter 1.52 oMMM 1.49b ParseLst 1.30 PkAX 1.00 PK[UN]ZIP 1.01 PolyxAmy 2.02 RMB 1.30 Skyparse 2.30 TrapList 1.12 UNzip 0.86 Yuck! 1.61 Zoo 2.01 Atari ST -------- Bulletin Board Software Network Mailer Other Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version FIDOdoor/ST 2.00* BinkleyTerm 2.40j* ConfMail 4.02 Pandora BBS 2.41c The BOX 1.20 ParseList 1.30 QuickBBS/ST 1.02 ARC 6.02 GS Point 0.61 FiFo 2.0b LHARC 0.60 LED ST 0.10 BYE 0.25 PKUNZIP 1.10 MSGED 1.96S SRENUM 6.2 Trenum 0.10 OMMM 1.40 Archimedes ---------- BBS Software Mailers Utilities Name Version Name Version Name Version ARCbbs 1.44 BinkleyTerm 2.03 Unzip 2.1TH ARC 1.03 !Spark 2.00d FidoNews 7-49 Page 17 3 Dec 1990 ParseLst 1.30 BatchPacker 1.00 + Netmail capable (does not require additional mailer software) * Recently changed Utility authors: Please help keep this list up to date by reporting new versions to 1:1/1. It is not our intent to list all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 7-49 Page 18 3 Dec 1990 ================================================================= NOTICES ================================================================= The Interrupt Stack 1 Jan 1991 Implementation of 7% Goods and Services Tax in Canada. Contact Joe Lindstrom at 1:134/55 for a more colorful description. 16 Feb 1991 Fifth anniversary of the introduction of Echomail, by Jeff Rush. 31 Mar 1991 Jim Grubs (W8GRT) was issued his first ham radio license forty years ago today. His first station was made from an ARC-5 "Command Set" removed from a B-17 bomber. 12 May 1991 Fourth anniversary of FidoNet operations in Latin America and second anniversary of the creation of Zone-4. 8 Sep 1991 25th anniversary of first airing of Star Trek on NBC! 7 Oct 1991 Area code 415 fragments. Alameda and Contra Costa Counties will begin using area code 510. This includes Oakland, Concord, Berkeley and Hayward. San Francisco, San Mateo, Marin, parts of Santa Clara County, and the San Francisco Bay Islands will retain area code 415. 1 Feb 1992 Area code 213 fragments. Western, coastal, southern and eastern portions of Los Angeles County will begin using area code 310. This includes Los Angeles International Airport, West Los Angeles, San Pedro and Whittier. Downtown Los Angeles and surrounding communities (such as Hollywood and Montebello) will retain area code 213. 1 Dec 1993 Tenth anniversary of Fido Version 1 release. 5 Jun 1997 David Dodell's 40th Birthday If you have something which you would like to see on this calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1. FidoNews 7-49 Page 19 3 Dec 1990 -----------------------------------------------------------------