Volume 4, Number 33 31 August 1987 +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | _ | | / \ | | /|oo \ | | - FidoNews - (_| /_) | | _`@/_ \ _ | | International | | \ \\ | | FidoNet Association | (*) | \ )) | | Newsletter ______ |__U__| / \// | | / FIDO \ _//|| _\ / | | (________) (_/(_|(____/ | | (jm) | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ Editor in Chief: Thom Henderson Chief Procrastinator Emeritus: Tom Jennings FidoNews is published weekly by the International FidoNet Association as its official newsletter. You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in FidoNews. Article submission standards are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC, available from node 1:1/1. Copyright 1987 by the International FidoNet Association. All rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances, please contact IFNA at (314) 576-4067. SPECIAL FIDOCON EDITION Table of Contents 1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1 Changes .................................................. 1 2. ARTICLES ................................................. 2 Minutes of First IFNA BofD Meeting, August 21, 1987-DRA .. 2 IFNA Board of Directors, Alternates and Officers ......... 4 Minutes of Second IFNA BofD Meeting, August 21, 1987-DR .. 6 Minutes of Third IFNA BofD Meeting, August 23, 1987-DRA .. 10 Minutes of Meeting of the IFNA Executive Committee ....... 15 Tom Marshall's Views/Cover Notes FidoCon IV .............. 16 Henderson's Letter of Resignation ........................ 19 FidoNet in the South Pacific ............................. 20 3. NOTICES .................................................. 23 The Interrupt Stack ...................................... 23 Latest Software Versions ................................. 23 IFNA Order Form .......................................... 24 IFNA Membership Application .............................. 25 FidoNews 4-33 Page 1 31 Aug 1987 ================================================================= EDITORIAL ================================================================= Thom Henderson, 1:107/6.1 "Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, I'm free at last!" --- Martin Luther King, Jr. First of all, I want to extend my heartfelt thanks to everyone who voted for me. Yes, I was elected to the Board of Directors, and yes, I really do deeply appreciate the show of confidence. I'm VERY glad to know that my efforts have been appreciated. But I felt that I had to resign. Before leaving, I nominated Rick Siegel as my Alternate, so he'll be on the board in place of me. I've known Rick for some time. He's a concerned sysop who I think will make an excellent board member. Besides, every stew needs salt. I should explain. As I read it, article 11 of the Articles of Association says I can't be on the board. The articles were passed by a majority of the members. But the members also elected a number of board members in addition to myself who would be disqualified under article 11. So what to do? A few days before the conference an emergency meeting of the Interim Board was called to consider article 11. At that time we voted to temporarily suspend article 11 until the new board could sit and consider the matter. I still stand by that decision. I wouldn't swear it was right, but I stand by it anyway. Meanwhile I decided that, if I was elected, I would stand aside until the new board had decided what to do about article 11. Then it came down to brass tacks, as they say. I got elected. I spent a great deal of the weekend wrestling with my conscience, and finally decided that in good faith I must apply the original article 11 to myself. So now I'm back where I was a little over a year ago, on the outside looking in. I'll probably like it better here. I was never really comfortable with being an "insider". IFNA is off and running now -- it doesn't need me any more. It's better off without the controversy. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 4-33 Page 2 31 Aug 1987 ================================================================= ARTICLES ================================================================= Tom Marshall - IFNA Secretary IFNA Legal 1/12 DRAFT - 082787 MINUTES OF THE FIRST IFNA BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING August 21, 1987 at about 1229 Poplar Room, Radisson Mark Plaza Hotel The Meeting was called by the Chair of the Interim Board of Directors, IFNA Executive Director, Ken Kaplan. The first order of old business was the distribution of folders of information for each of the attendees. Those attending were those persons present at the Fourth International FidoNet Association Conference who had been elected as Members of the Interim Board, as announced by the Chair of the Nominations and Elections Committee, Bob Morris 16/0, as part of the 0900 Opening Ceremonies Item on the Conference Agenda. On motion of Ben Baker 1/0 At-Large Director, Ken Kaplan was nominated Chair of the Board of Directors. That motion was carried unanimously. Ryugen Fisher, Director - Division 11, moved the nomination of Tom Marshall as IFNA Secretary and Parliamentarian. That motion was carried. Thereafter, Tom Marshall 107/524 attended each Board Meeting to record the Minutes and act as Parliamentarian. The next order of business on the Agenda, as proposed by the Secretary and adopted by the Board for this Meeting, was to bring before the Board the previous actions of the Interim Board suspending Article 11 of the ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION FOR INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION and recommending adoption of a substitute Article 11 (known as the Kessler-Marshall Substitute) previously approved by Mark S. Rubin, Esq., St. Louis IFNA General Counsel. On motion by Ryugen Fisher to adopt the substitute Article 11, pending further review and until the Meeting of Board of Directors scheduled for Sunday, August 23, 1987 at 1000. The motion carried. The next Agenda item was for the Board to receive formally the Report of the Nominations and Elections Committee. On motion of Ryugen Fisher, seconded by Mark Grennan, after discussion, the Board adopted that Report. On the request of the Secretary, a motion was made to amend the Report to state that the Directors elected were for the voting Divisions as specified in By-Law 24 and that full names of each elected Director be substituted, when provided by such to the Secretary. The motion carried. The Secretary requested each elected Director to appoint an Alternate, as defined by the By-Laws, as promptly as possible. FidoNews 4-33 Page 3 31 Aug 1987 On motion of Ryugen Fisher the Chair opened the floor for nominations for the Office of President of IFNA. Thom Henderson was nominated, but declined the nomination on personal privilege. Gee Wong 103/312; Mark Grennan; and Don Daniels were nominated, whereupon Ben Baker moved that nominations be closed and that motion carried. Each of the nominees was requested to state his qualifications. Gee Wong withdrew himself from consideration on matters of personal privilege. That withdrawal left only two candidates, each of whom spoke in his behalf as did others. On motion by Thom Henderson, which carried, the Board concluded that the voting for the Office of President would include the election by the Board of the Vice President, with the person receiving the highest number of votes being appointed President and the other candidate being appointed as Vice President. Upon calling the question, the Board voted to elect Don Daniels President and Mark Grennan Vice President. The last business item was a duly made and adopted Board Resolution, appointing Ken Kaplan as Acting Treasurer of IFNA, pending nomination and election of a Treasurer at the scheduled Board Meeting, Sunday, August 23, 1987 at 1000. At about 1315 the First Board of Directors Meeting was adjourned to a time after the Banquet at a place to be announced by the Chair. Respectfully submitted, Tom Marshall, Secretary (NOTE: A number of Alternates were appointed by Directors, both those present and by telephone contact on August 22, 1987. A Listing of the present Members of the Board of Directors, Alternates and Officers of IFNA is enclosed herewith as a separate item.) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 4-33 Page 4 31 Aug 1987 Tom Marshall, IFNA Secretary IFNA Legal 1/12 August 23, 1987 The following is the listing of the Board of Directors Members, Alternates (selected - not all Alternates have been appointed) and Officers of IFNA. This compilation is from: A. The Report of the Chair, Bob Morris 16/0, of the Nominations and Elections Committee August 21, 1987; B. Written Alternate appointments by Division Directors and At-Large Directors delivered to the Secretary; and C. Oral telephone Alternate appointments by Division and At-Large Directors who were not attending the Fourth International FidoNet Conference (these have been or must be confirmed by mail messages to the Secretary). NAME NODE OFFICE/POSITION ================================================================ Ben Baker 100/76 At-Large Director Vice President - Technical Coordinator Christopher Baker 135/14 Alternate - Division 18 Rob Barker 342/34 Director - Division 17 Phil Becker 104/23 Alternate - Larry Wall Jim Cannell 114/13 Alternate - Division 15 Gene Clayton 12/14 Director - Division 12 Michael Connick 107/412 Alternate- Ted Polcyzinski Wes Cowley 135/0 Director - Division 18 Neal Curtin 343/1 Alternate - Division 17 Don Daniels 107/210 At-Large Director President David Dodell 114/15 Director - Division 15 David Drexler 147/1 Alternate - Mark Grennan Hal Duprie 101/106 At-Large Director Ryugen Fisher 220/1 Director - Division 11 Chair - Fido Technical Standards Committee Mark Grennan 19/0 At-Large Director Vice President Bob Hartman 132/101 Director - Division 16 Thom Henderson 107/6.1 Elected - Director - Division 13 Resigned August 23, 1987 FidoNews Editor Brad Hicks 100/523 At-Large Director Brian Hughes 109/634 At-Large Director Tom Jennings 125/111 Alternate - Division 10 Alternate - Hal DuPrie Steve Jordan 102/2871 Director - Division 10 Ken Kaplan 100/22 Director - Division 14 Chair of the Board of Directors Joe Keenan 109/661 Alternate - Kurt Reisler Tom Marshall 107/524 Secretary Leonard Mednick 12/1 Treasurer FidoNews 4-33 Page 5 31 Aug 1987 Bob Morris 16/1 Alternate - Division 16 Dave Oshea 107/35 Alternate - Division 13 Ted Polczynski 154/5 At-Large Director Kurt Reisler 109/74 At-Large Director Bob Rudolph 261/628 Alternate - Brian Hughes Rick Siegel 107/27 Director - Division 13 Greg Small 148/122 Alternate - Ben Baker Bob Swift 343/24 At-Large Director Wynn Wagner 124/101 Director - Division 19 Henk Wevers 500/1 Director - Division 2 Gee Wong 107/312 At-Large Director Please forward any corrections/changes/substitutions to the above address. Also, would those listed and any futrue Directors or Officers please provide me, Private Net Mail with you full legal names, business and home addresses and telephone numbers; and advise me of any changes to any such personal data, so that I may contact all of you as and when required. Additionally, please keep me currently advised of any change in you email addresses, in case nom-de-plumes of Boards make it difficult for me to locate you in the NodeList. One optional item, I would also like to have and maintain, is an up-to-date listing of the Zone, Region, Net (and any other) Coordinators. If EchoMail Coordinators feel so inclined, they might also provide me with their personal data and the Conferences they coordinate, just in case I am required to get in touch with them. Respectfully submitted, Tom Marshall, Esq. 107/524 - Secretary ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 4-33 Page 6 31 Aug 1987 Tom Marshall - IFNA Secretary IFNA Legal 1/12 DRAFT - 082787 MINUTES OF THE SECOND IFNA BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING August 21, 1987 at about 2100 Great Hall and Patio, Radisson Mark Plaza Hotel The Second Meeting of the IFNA Board of Directors was called by the Chair and convened following the Banquet at the Great Hall, but was moved to the Patio at the request of all. The Chair called the Meeting to order. The Agenda as proposed by the Secretary and adopted by the Board was to consider matters to be on the Agenda for the Sunday, August 23, 1987 Board Meeting scheduled in the Conference Agenda and open to all attending the Conference. Ben Baker proposed a new Agenda item, action on the proposed substitute Article 11 by the Board. It was agreed that that item would be considered first. Ben Baker moved the immediate adoption of the substitute Article 11 of the ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION. A lively discussion followed, ending with the call of the question. On vote it was determined that eight Directors were for Ben Baker's motion and four against. The Secretary was called upon to rule whether the matter could be adopted. Reference to Article 9, ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION, showed that "three-fourths vote of all directors" was required and that for the substitute Article 11 to be adopted an affirmative vote of seventeen Directors was required, making it impossible for the twelve Directors voting to effect amendment. On motion duly made and seconded, Ben Baker's motion was tabled until the Sunday Board of Directors Meeting. The President and Vice President were requested by the Board to contact the absent Members by telephone, Saturday, August 22, 1987 and to request that each absent Director appoint as an Alternate someone in attendance at the Conference. A motion was made that the text of the substitute Article 11 be amended to include the test of Mitch Kessler's proposed "purpose" language. After discussion, the Board adopted the intent of the motion by requesting the Secretary to include the the sense of the language in a Board Resolution. (See: Enclosed Resolution below, Enclosure Item 2.) On motion made and duly adopted the Board convened itself as a Committee on the Whole to act on the Secretary's request of determining the Agenda for the Sunday Board of Directors Meeting. After considerable discussion, the Committee on the Whole reported the enclosed proposed Agenda, Enclosure Item 1. The Committee of the Whole was then dissolved. FidoNews 4-33 Page 7 31 Aug 1987 The Board was reconvened by the Chair. On suggestion that the hour was late, on motion duly made and adopted, the Second Meeting of the Board was adjourned at 2343, subject to being recalled on August 22, 1987 by the Chair at a place to be announced. Respectfully submitted, Tom Marshall, Secretary (NOTE: The enclosed Agenda and its attachment, the proposed Board Resolution relating to Article 11 were prepared by the Secretary and made available to the Board of Directors and Alternates present at the Conference, as well as distributed to all Conference attendees on Saturday, August 22, 1987 AM. Also, a copy of these documents was CRASH mailed to 3000/0 IFNA_CON for such distribution as that HOST chose. - Comment: Rick Siegel "The Wizz" had set up a special Conference Board and those who, like me, who had brought Systems, were linked as Nodes 3000/618, my Hotel Room Number, to enable intra-Conference email and receipt of EchoMail.) Enclosure for Minutes of Second BofD Meeting - DRAFT Item 1 INTERNATIONAL FidoNet ASSOCIATION, INC.(IFNA) AGENDA IFNA BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING AND ANNUAL MEETING OF THE MEMBERS August 23, 1987 The IFNA Board of Directors, elected on August 21, 1987, in a Meeting duly called on August 21, 1987 at about 9:00 PM, acting as a Committee of the Whole discussed and adopted the following as the Agenda for the scheduled open 10:00 AM Meeting Sunday, August 23, 1987: I. Old Business -:- Ratification of: A. The Adoption of the Articles of Association and By- Laws as voted on by the Members January 1987. B. The Election of the 11 Division Directors and 11 Directors At Large by the vote of the Members as Reported by the Chair of the Nominations and Elections Committee, Robert Morris at the Members Annual Meeting Session August 21, 1987. C. The acts of the new elected Board of Directors at its First Board of Directors Meeting on August 21, 1987 at about 12:30 PM in appointing the following positions and Officers: Chair of the Board - Ken Kaplan President - Don Daniels Vice-President - Mark Grennan Vice-President Technical Director - Ben Baker FidoNews 4-33 Page 8 31 Aug 1987 Acting Treasurer - Ken Kaplan Secretary - Tom Marshall D. Suspension of Article 11 of The Articles of Association and substitution of attached substitute for the interim period, pending review by a sub- committee and adoption at the Annual Meeting Session, August 23. 1987. II. New Business: A. Consideration of adopting revised POLICY4. B. Appointment of either new Standing Committee Chairs or appointment of present persons performing those functions as Interim Chairs, pending review of suggestions of Member for such positions. C. Budget Report and adoption of an Interim Budget, pending development of an Annual Budget by Administration and Finance Committee. D. Consideration of policy directives for FTSC. E. Consider change to Copyright Notice in NodeList to recognize existing commercial uses; refer Commercial Licensing of IFNA properties to commercial users to Administration and Finance Committee. F. Selection of dates of next Annual Meeting of the Members and referring to Membership Services Committee the tasks of soliciting site suggestions and all planning for preparing for and holding the next Annual Meeting of the Members. G. Adjournment of Annual Meeting of the Members to selected dates and adjournment of the Meeting of Board of Directors until reconvened by a call by the Chair. Enclosure Item 2 INTERNATIONAL FidoNet ASSOCIATION, INC. (IFNA) BOARD OF DIRECTORS - RESOLUTION: The present Article 11, Articles of Association of IFNA having been the subject of discussion by the Members and by the Interim Board as being unsuitable; and the Interim Board having duly suspended Article 11 pending convening of the new Board of Directors; the Board of Directors in its Meeting at about 12:30 PM, August 21, 1987 having ratified the suspension of Article 11 and having adopted the below substitute Article 11 pending further review, prior to considering adoption of said substitute at the Annual Meeting Session Sunday, August 23, 1987; NOW THEREFORE: For the purpose of permitting, within the scope of applicable laws, statutes, rules and regulations, persons having commercial FidoNews 4-33 Page 9 31 Aug 1987 involvements in the computer industry to serve as Directors and Officers of IFNA; BE IT RESOLVED THAT: The following text is substituted for Article 11 of IFNA's Articles of Association: Article 11 - No person shall be eligible to serve in any of the positions or offices of Director, Alternate, President, Vice President, Secretary, Treasurer, or Vice President - Technical Coordinator, whose service in any such capacity would: A. Violate any applicable law, statute, ruling or regulation of the State of Missouri or the United States of America, or of the country of domicile of such person; or B. Jeopardize the non-profit or tax-exempt status of IFNA, as defined by the laws, statutes, rulings or regulations of the State of Missouri or the United States of America; or C. Amount to, create or continue a conflict of interest between the activities, aims or purposes of IFNA and such person's private financial interests or such interests of any of such person's employer, family or relations. Each person nominated or elected to any such position or office shall have an affirmative and continuing obligation to disclose fully any fact or circumstance which is or could be considered in any way to amount to, create or continue any such conflict of interest. As long as any person nominated for or holding any of the enumerated positions or offices shall have made a disclosure of and fairly presented all of the facts and circumstances, the existence of a financial interest in some product or service that might be or is used, approved for use or acquired by IFNA shall not, absent any abuse of that person's position or office, constitute a conflict of interest. DULY ADOPTED ON THIS August 23, 1987 by IFNA Board of Directors. Certified: Thomas M. Marshall, Secretary End of Enclosures ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 4-33 Page 10 31 Aug 1987 Tom Marshall - IFNA Secretary IFNA Legal 1/12 DRAFT - 082787 MINUTES OF THE THIRD IFNA BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING August 23, 1987 at about 1000 Plaza A and Great Hall, Radisson Mark Plaza Hotel The Meeting was called to order by the Chair AT 1032. The Agenda prepared by the Secretary and widely distributed to those attending the Conference on Saturday, August 22, 1987, was adopted. After noting that those Board Members and Alternates present were greater than the three-fourths required by the Article 9, ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION, a motion was adopted to amend Item I. A. to add "and all acts of the Interim Board taken in accordance with those Articles of Association and By-Laws." Motions were made on Items I. A. through D. and discussion proceeded, including recognition by the Chair of IFNA Members and others attending on the floor in order that they could be heard. It appearing that the length of the Meeting was going to exceed the time allowed by the Hotel for use of Plaza A and that there was general agreement on adopting all the Items on the Agenda under the heading "I. Old Business ...", upon the request of Randy Bush, a motion was duly made by a Board Member and adopted to accept those Agenda Items, as amended above. The Chair then opened the Meeting up for consideration of the Agenda Items II. New Business:, Items II. A. through G. The Board heard discussion by Board Members, Alternates and from the floor on Items A. through D. and, after motions duly made and adopted, took the following actions on each such Item: Item II. A. - POLICY4 - Referred the matter of adoption of the revised POLICY4, reported by Thom Henderson as the proposal of the participants of the Coordinators EchoMail Conference, to the Executive Committee for review; the soliciting of the views of the FidoNet Community; and reporting to the Board that Committee's recommendations thereon. Item II. B. - Standing Committee appointments and the Chair for each such Committee as required by By-Law 30. Don Daniels read a list of appointments he as President suggested and called for opening up membership on such Standing Committees to all concerned. The Board duly adopted Don Daniels' requests that those names read by him be appointed; that the list of those appointed be published in FidoNews, along with a call for recommendations for further appointments. The Chair announced that he would appoint the Chairs of each Standing Committee from the members of such and, until such Committees were formed, the persons presently acting as Chairs were appointed as "Interim Chairs" of each. It was the sense of the Meeting that the FidoNews 4-33 Page 11 31 Aug 1987 announcements of the President and Chair of the Board be adopted. Further details relating to this Item will be published in FidoNews. Item II. B. 1. - A new Agenda Item was proposed and adopted that the "four Directors selected by The Board of Directors", as required by Article 6, ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION, be nominated and elected by the Board as promptly as possible. Accordingly the Chair opened up the Meeting for nominations of Board Members for the four open positions on the Executive Committee. Nominations were duly made for the following: Kurt Reisler; Hal DuPrie; Wes Cowley; Bob Hartman; Steve Jordan; Rob Barker; and Ryugen Fisher. After a motion to close nominations was duly adopted, the President and Vice President prepared written ballots and distributed them to the Board Members and Alternates present. The voting was, by consensus, postponed until the resumption of the Board Meeting after 1200. At about this time, it having been noted that Thom Henderson, though elected as Director - Division 13, had elected not to participate in the Board's deliberations and had "informally resigned" his elected position, the secretary, at 1153 August 23, 1987 was handed a written resignation of Thom Henderson. Upon receipt of that document, the Secretary notified the Chair and the Meeting that a vacancy existed on the Board and that there no Alternate had been appointed. The Secretary's request that the the Board make filling that position the first order of business when the Meeting resumed was adopted. Item II. C. - Budget Report - As Acting Treasurer, Ken Kaplan presented the Board with a written Budget Report of IFNA Operations and Financial status, along with a proposed Budget for the coming year. Ken Kaplan noted that he had been assisted by Leonard Mednick in the preparation of his submissions. On motion duly made and adopted, the Board accepted the Budget Report as presented by the Acting Treasurer and referred the proposed Budget to the Administration and Finance Committee. Upon motion made at the request of Ken Kaplan, Leonard Mednick's name was placed in nomination for the Office of Treasurer. No others having been nominated, nominations were duly closed and the Board elected Leonard Mednick as Treasurer. ITEM II. D. - Policy Directives to the FTSC - On motion made by Don Daniels, the Board referred this Item to both the Fido Technical Standards Committee for its recommendations on the nature of the effort it would undertake and to the Executive Committee for consideration of the policies that should be implemented by the FTSC. Item II. E. - Consideration of changing the NOTICE language in the text as it appears after the Copyright Notice in the weekly FidoNet NodeList; and consideration of Licensing IFNA properties to commercial users. The Board heard some discussion from Board Members; Alternates; and the floor. Upon a request made by a Board Member, Tom Marshall, IFNA Legal, commented on a suggestion that the NodeList could be published without any Copyright FidoNews 4-33 Page 12 31 Aug 1987 Notice or accompanying NOTICE text. The Meeting was advised that, as Copyright comes into existence on the instant of creation in a form readable by man or machine, such a publication would not affect the Copyright status of the compilation work, the NodeList. However, it was recommended that that not be done as there are procedural advantages to including the Copyright Notice and a NOTICE be used to specify allowed and prohibited usage. After further discussion, the matter was duly tabled for further review by the Executive Committee, promptly after its election in the resumed session of the Board Meeting. At this point, the Meeting was recessed, pending its movement to the Great Hall, for fifteen minutes. The Chair reconvened the Meeting in the Great Hall at about 1230. The first Item on the Agenda was the filling the Board vacancy created by Thom Henderson's resignation. The Chair opened the Meeting by calling for Division 13 Members present to nominate candidates for Director - Division 13. Rick Siegel 107/27 was duly nominated. No other nominations having been made, the Board closed nominations and directed the Secretary to note the election of Rick Siegel as Director - Division 13. Rick Siegel appointed Dave Oshea as Alternate - Division 13 by written notice to the Secretary. The next order of business was the voting by the Board on the candidates nominated for the four Directors' positions on the Executive Committee. The President and Vice President collected the written ballots. A short recess was declared to allow the President and Vice President to count the votes, the Secretary observed the counting. Three of the four were elected on the first ballot and two candidates ended up in a tie for the fourth position. New ballots containing the names of the two tied candidates were prepared and distributed. On counting the second round ballots the fourth member was elected. Upon reconvening after the Board Meeting, at the request of the President, the Secretary announced the following results: The Directors elected to serve on the Executive Committee are: Kurt Reisler; Bob Hartman; Steve Jordan; Rob Barker. Pursuant to Article 6, ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION, the President, Don Daniels; the four elected Directors; the non-voting Vice President and Vice President - Technical Coordinator constitute the Executive Committee. Upon motion of Ben Baker, duly adopted, the Board Meeting was recessed to allow the newly constituted Executive Committee to consider and report to the Board on the matter referred by the Board for immediate attention earlier, relating to Agenda Item II. E., portion up to the semi-colon - specifically changes to the Copyright Notice and NOTICE language in the present NodeList. (See: Separate Minutes of the Executive Committee Meeting, August 23, 1987, Enclosure to these Minutes below.) Upon the return of the Executive Committee, the Chair reconvened FidoNews 4-33 Page 13 31 Aug 1987 the Meeting and heard the Report of the Executive Committee. The Secretary read the language recommended by the Executive Committee and explained the effect of the changes. Basically, the previous language prohibited any commercial use of any kind of the NodeList by anyone. As there have been and are numerous such uses by listed nodes to conduct "commercial business", the Executive Committee's new language licenses listed nodes to use the NodeList only in the technical operation of their nodes. All other commercial uses of the NodeList continue to be prohibited. The more general issues of Licensing "commercial use" of IFNA properties, also referenced to the Executive Committee are postponed until a chance has been had for contributions to the discussions by the FidoNet Community and until the Executive committee may consider this critically important matter in an atmosphere less constrained by time. In the discussion that followed, Thom Henderson and others, made a plea for much more "English" and simpler NOTICE language that Sysops could easily understand. In particular, Thom Henderson felt that a Sysop should not have to get his attorney's opinion before deciding that a proposed use is licensed or not. In rebuttal, Tom Marshall defended attorney's fees in general, and particularly pointed out that the language is necessarily "legalese" because its sets forth a line between licensed uses of the NodeList and unlicensed uses. If a proposed use is questionable, any commercial user should realize that the consequences of a Copyright Infringement are serious enough to retain a competent attorney before jeopardizing a business. After further discussion the Board adopted the Executive Committee's Report and the changes to the NodeList NOTICE language that Committee suggested. (For the text of the "new" language adopted by the Board in accepting the Report of the Executive Committee, See: NodeList.240, published August 28, 1987.) Agenda Item II. F. - Selection of the dates for the next Annual Meeting of the Members and reference of details to the Membership Services Committee. There was some discussion of this Item, but the sense of the Board was there was not enough data on which to arrive at any decision. Accordingly, on motion duly adopted, the Board referred this entire Item to the Membership Services Committee for review; solicitation of suggestions by Members, Sysops and any others interested; and required that the Committee report dates and suggested sites to the Board within ninety days. Thus, the Membership Services Committees report on arrangements for next year's Annual Meeting of Members is due on or before November 20, 1987. Upon being reminded that the terms of the At-Large Directors is not specified in the By-Laws for this first elected Board, an additional Agenda Item was placed before the Board, by consensus. Those At-Large Directors present were polled to see if enough were willing to accept a one-year term, with three indicating they would do so. However, as consent of the number required FidoNews 4-33 Page 14 31 Aug 1987 for half of this first elected Board's At-Large to hold that position for one year was not available, this Board referred the matter to the Nominations and Elections Committee for resolution and report to the Board. In view of the volunteering by three of those present to serve the on year term, it is not anticipated that resolution should require much effort. Agenda Item II. G. - Adjournment of the Annual Meeting of the Members and the Meeting of the Board of Directors. No decision having been reached about next year's Annual Meeting of the Members dates, the Annual Meeting of the Members was adjourned until the time selected by the Board upon considering the recommendations of the Membership Services Committee. There being no further business to come before the Board, on motion to adjourn, pending call by the Chair, the motion was adopted and at 1536 the Board of Directors Meeting was adjourned. Respectfully submitted, Tom Marshall, IFNA Secretary ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 4-33 Page 15 31 Aug 1987 Enclosure: Minutes of Meeting of the IFNA Executive Committee Sunday, August 23, 1987 at the Great Hall, Radisson Mark Plaza Hotel. at about 1430 Attending: Don Daniels, President, presiding as Chair pro tem Kurt Reisler, Director At-Large Bob Hartman, Division 16 - Director Steve Jordan, Division 10 - Director Rob Barker, Division 17 - Director Mark Grennan, Vice President Ben Baker, Vice President - Technical Coordinator Tom Marshall, Secretary The Meeting was called to order by Don Daniels. The single item on the Agenda being consideration of the first portion of the Board Agenda Item II. E. at the urgent requirement of the Board of Directors. Proposed NOTICE language changes for the NodeList, prepared during the recess between Board Meeting Sessions by Ben Baker and Tom Marshall was laid on the table for consideration. After due discussion and deliberation, including changes recommended by those attending, a motion was made to adopt the revised text as the Executive Committee's Report to the Board, the question was called and the motion carried, Bob Hartman abstained and none of Mark Grennan, Ben Baker and Tom Marshall are allowed to vote. (Ref: Article 6, ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION) There being no further business, on motion duly adopted the Executive Committee adjourned at about 1500, pending recall by the President. Respectfully submitted, Tom Marshall, Secretary ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 4-33 Page 16 31 Aug 1987 Tom Marshall, Esq. 107/524 As I was completing DRAFTs of the three Board of Directors Meetings and on Executive Committee, a number of "impressions" kept floating up that I felt should not be a part of formal Minutes of Meetings. Also, two (and probably lots of other) details are "of record" but are not included in any of the Minutes. First, the well-intentioned, serious - but mostly light-hearted - fellows and gals I met at 4FIDOCON are definitely NOT the same crowd that attended last year's Conference. I wasn't there, but I've read lots and listened to lots of tales about disruptive, abusive and downright disagreeable persons who did attend, that I had formed a conclusion that this was likely to be a bad experience. Nothing could be further from the truth. I certainly did not get to meet or "be with" many who were there. But to a person, everyone I did meet, was with and who participated in the same activities I did was patently eager to be constructive. I did not witness, nor have I heard of one incident that I could in any classify as mean-spirited or destructive. Maybe the people I did meet and engage in conversation were just the "nice guys". I am firm in my conviction that that did not happen. The lasting impression I have is that "we", those present and those not, who are this incredible FidoNet Community can be very proud of our accomplishments and can count on the continued hard work of all to build an even more important Net for the good of all who we contact. To Tom Jennings, who isn't necessarily pleased with "how" his baby is growing up, thank you so very much. To Thom Henderson, who stepped aside for reasons he will explain, I'll miss your counsel and wit in the "inner circles". To all of the nay-sayers who could not or chose not to attend, you missed a delightful experience that might have given you a different impression. The two "items of record" you won't find in the Minutes are: 1. A written note by Hal DuPrie: clearly stating for the record his reasoning for voting against submission of the NodeList NOTICE changes to the Executive Committee. Herewith is Hal's "for the record" submission: "for 'reading into the record' Section -- Vote on 'copyright' I voted NO on modifying the copyright notice since I believe that the statement made by counsel 'Copyright is retained/created at creation of document...', is sufficient to allow REMOVAL not modification of the copyright statement form the nodelist until such time as IFNA wishes to re-instate it with the members' approval." FidoNews 4-33 Page 17 31 Aug 1987 Signed: HAL DuPRIE, Director At-Large; Marked received 8/23/87 1:10PM from H.duP. TMM As a guide to anyone else who feels the need to make anything "of record", be you Director or not: my archivist chore (and "pack-rat" propensities) are such that I'll file it if you send it to me and indicate you want to "go on record". I may or may not do anything else with "it", but you can rest assured you will be "on record". 2. Before the start of the last Session of the Third Board of Directors Meeting on Sunday, there was an "off-record" baring by all of the Directors, Alternates and Officers of anything they felt anyone could criticize as constituting a "conflict- of-interest". When the Substitute for Article 11 was being discussed during the Second Board Meeting, all of us agreed to make a full disclosure of any possible conflict-of- interest, as soon as that Article was adopted, that is required by that Article's text. In listening to that group "bare their individual souls", I felt a growing sense of pride in IFNA because of the spirit with which each displayed their feelings on this sensitive matter. So it is "of record" here is basically what I said: I am a Patent Attorney, specializing in Computers/Software/Systems. That is how I earn my living. As an attorney for nearly 32 years, I find the concept of advertising my services distasteful, but the realities of today, and the concept of my practice being "On-Line Real-Time" require me to let potential clients know who I am and what my qualifications are. I am counting on my participation in FidoNet and in IFNA as Secretary and IFNA Legal, to get my name, "who" I am and what my qualifications are "out there". I expect that many of my clients will know me because of my connections and service to this organization. I DO use the NodeList to contact directly my clients and for my clients to contact me directly. And I am Commercial Use Licensee #1! I've paid my $100 Commercial Member Dues and donated my fair share of the expenses to 4FIDOCON. My opinion is that there is now no conflict-of-interest, nor is it likely that there ever will be any. Lastly, "for the record" one last thought - I think I had a lot of "fun" at 4FIDOCON. When I recover form the exhaustion of the whole affair, I'll find out. For sure two remarks made stick in my mind as being very appropos - Bob Hartman said in an EchoMail message before the Conference and repeated the same theme at the Conference: Up until the Conference we were organizing for a new beginning, now all we can do is push the start button and see what happens. He is SO RIGHT. Then when the (still in shock) new President finished his speech at the Saturday Luncheon he said: "Don't tell us what we're doing wrong, tell us how to do it right!" The start button has been pushed and it is entirely probable "we" didn't do it right the first attempt. But there is in place and now running the ways and means to patch the bugs and "our" FidoNews 4-33 Page 18 31 Aug 1987 representatives are there to find out from us how we think it can be done right. Now that all the work is done, I'm going to have some "fun"! Tom Marshall, Esq. 107/524 ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 4-33 Page 19 31 Aug 1987 The following is a copy of a letter sent by Thom Henderson to the Chairmain of the Board of Directors of IFNA: 25 August 1987 Ken Kaplan, Chairman International FidoNet Association Dear Ken: First, I would like to appoint Rick Siegel, 107/27 as my Alternate for the IFNA Board of Directors. Second, I regret to inform you that I must tender my resignation as a member of the IFNA Board of Directors. I interprete Article 11 of the Articles of Association, as passed by the membership in January of 1987, as indicating that I cannot hold a seat on the Board. I know that Article 11 was suspended prior to the election, but my conscience demands that I apply it to myself. Sincerely, Thom Henderson ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 4-33 Page 20 31 Aug 1987 This article was originally intended as a paper to be delivered at FidoCon. Unfortunately, it was not received in time, so we are publishing it here instead. FIDONET IN THE SOUTH PACIFIC (or is it Western Pacific) ZONE 3 Whilst FidoNet was created and evolved largely in the U.S. where the Network and its environment largely adapted to each other, the growth of FidoNet in other parts of the world has posed different sets of problems.... none more unique than those found on the continent of Australia, the western pacific area and south-east Asia. In this area, known of late as Zone-3, there have been problems arising from the relatively small number of nodes spread over a huge area of the earth's surface, literally hundreds of different languages, remoteness from the U.S. as the major centre of FidoNet development and even from Europe and the necessity to service and accomodate the rapid growth of the Net. That all these problems have, to a large extent, been overcome or are in the process of being solved, is a credit to the flexibility and adaptibility of the Networking concept itself and to the administrators on both sides of the Pacific. The purpose of this contribution from Zone-3 is to tell you a little about how the Zone is structured and to point out where we have overcome some of the problems that have arisen. The first networked Fido Boards in the Region were operated in Indonesia. Indeed, the first mail sent outside the continental United States was sent between Indonesia and the U.S. However, the Indonesian Boards were not the active participators they have become today and the Western Pacific area languished until a couple of Boards were brought up in Australia as a part of Region 12... based in Hawaii. In fact, the whole of the Australian continent must have been the largest net that FidoNet ever saw.... or, is ever likely to see again. With an area the size of the U.S. (excluding Alaska) the country was served by Net-155. As Net-155 grew and, even with substantial hubbing arrangements, became unwieldy , it was decided to create Region-3 with a couple of Regions beneath it... Region-50 to cover mainland Australia, Region-52 to cover Indonesia and Region-59 to accomodate independent nodes. With the introduction of the Zone philosophy, of course, Region-3 became Zone-3. As it stands today Zone-3 accomodates six Regions, with one FidoNews 4-33 Page 21 31 Aug 1987 pending and allowanc e for an eighth. The Zonegate is owned and operated by Alwyn Smith and is based at Scarborough on the coast of Queensland near the New South Wales border. Mainland Australia is covered by Region-50 with John Blackett-Smith as Regional Coordinator based in Melbourne, the most southern mainland city. Region-50 contains Net-620 in Sydney, Net-626 in Canberra (the national capital), Net-630 and Net-631 serving Melbourne, Geelong and Tasmania, Net-640 in Queensland, Net-680 in Adelaide and Net- 690 in Perth. It is believed that Net-640 is the largest net (by area) in the international Fido Network being spread over a 1200 mile strip along the east coast and containing only 6 nodes. Region-54, covers Papua-New Guinea with Net-710 and some Australian Nets - 711, 712 and 713 - and is coordinated by Geoff Smith from Port Moresby, the capital city of PNG. Region-51 covers Singapore with Net-600, Malaysia with Net-609 and Thailand with Net-608... three small countries in close proximity in the same geographical region but culturally very different..... Region-52 is Indonesia covering two nets - 131 and 611. Region-53 covers Hong Kong and contains Net-164 which may soon change to Net-700. Region-55 is the Japanese region. Whilst there have been Fido- type boards running in Japan for some time now, it is expected that they will be joining the international network in the very near future. Allowance has been made for the inevitable inclusion of New Zealand with Region-56 and finally, Region-59 was created to accomodate those nodes who, for a variety of reasons either didn't fit into the existing structures or, elected to operate independently. At the moment this Region, coordinated by Geoff Arthur from Sydney, contains only 3 nodes. Because of the distances, differences in time zones, difficulties with satellite links across the Pacific as well as the multitude of languages involved, a great deal of planning and thought has gone into the mail routing throughout the Zone, and it goes something like this.... The Zonegate handles all incoming and outgoing mail for the Zone as well as well as passing EchoMail and Netmail through from the U.S. to Europe and return. The Zonegate distributes NetMail and any required EchoMail conferences to Region-50 via 630/301 in Melbourne which, in turn distributes to Nets 631, 626, 680 and 690 as well as nodes within Net-630. The remaining nets in Region-50... 620 and 640 are served direct by the Zonegate. The link to Region-52 in Indonesia and Region-53 in Hong Kong is direct to and from the Zonegate. FidoNews 4-33 Page 22 31 Aug 1987 In Region-54, the other large Region in Zone-3, all mail is routed to 711/403 which, in turn distributes to the other nodes in his Net as well as to mail servers in Nets 710, 712 and 713. A special gateway operates between Regions 54 and 51 and is provided by 711/805 which is owned and operated by Andrew Khoo a SysOp of Chinese extraction. This has helped overcome the language problems between the two areas. It should be noted here that the operator of the Zone-3 Zonegate, Alwyn Smith, provides free local, international and echomail for the entire zone. The system works quite smoothly, depite the unpredictable nature of the satellite links between Australia and the U.S. and the varying sizes of the incoming mail packets... varying, that is, from large to gargantuan, and the large distances between centres.... particularly on mainland Australia. That it IS successful is evidenced by the steady growth throughout the entire zone... Australia is fast approaching its hundredth node, Thailand and Malaysia are adding new nodes currently and Indonesia recently added several new nodes. The only area yet to be penetrated by FidoNet is New Zealand..... but even they will be hard put to resist once their very restrictive regulatory problems are solved. We hope this gives you all some idea of the nature of Zone-3 and its structure..... and that we can expect to continue the already enjoyable dialogue with Zones 1 and 2 along with the echomail conferences which have done so much to enhance this uniques area of computer communications. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 4-33 Page 23 31 Aug 1987 ================================================================= NOTICES ================================================================= The Interrupt Stack 24 Aug 1989 Voyager 2 passes Neptune. If you have something which you would like to see on this calendar, please send a message to FidoNet node 1:1/1. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Kenny (107/316), the renowned echomail scribe, is having some technical problems and will be down for a few weeks. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Latest Software Versions BBS Systems Node List Other & Mailers Version Utilities Version Utilities Version Dutchie 2.51 EDITNL 3.3 ARC 5.21 Fido 11w LISTGEN 05.25.86 ARCmail 1.00 Opus 1.03a* MakeNL 1.00 ConfMail 3.00 SEAdog 4.00 Prune 1.40 EchoMail 1.31 TBBS 2.0M XlatList 2.81 Renum 3.30 * Recently changed Utility authors: Please help keep this list up to date by reporting new versions to 1:1/1. It is not our intent to list all utilities here, only those which verge on necessity. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 4-33 Page 24 31 Aug 1987 INTERNATIONAL FIDONET ASSOCIATION ORDER FORM Publications The IFNA publications can be obtained by downloading from Fido 1/10 or other FidoNet compatible systems, or by purchasing them directly from IFNA. We ask that all our IFNA Committee Chairmen provide us with the latest versions of each publication, but we can make no written guarantees. Hardcopy prices as of October 1, 1986 IFNA Fido BBS listing $15.00 _____ IFNA Administrative Policy DOCs $10.00 _____ IFNA FidoNet Standards Committee DOCs $10.00 _____ SUBTOTAL _____ IFNA Member ONLY Special Offers System Enhancement Associates SEAdog $60.00 _____ SEAdog price as of March 1, 1987 ONLY 1 copy SEAdog per IFNA Member International orders include $5.00 for surface shipping or $15.00 for air shipping _____ SUBTOTAL _____ Mo. Residents add 5.725 % Sales tax _____ TOTAL _____ SEND CHECK OR MONEY ORDER TO: IFNA P.O. Box 41143 St. Louis, Missouri 63141 USA Name________________________________ Net/Node____/____ Company_____________________________ Address_____________________________ City____________________ State____________ Zip_____ Voice Phone_________________________ Signature___________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------- FidoNews 4-33 Page 25 31 Aug 1987 __ The World's First / \ BBS Network /|oo \ * FidoNet * (_| /_) _`@/_ \ _ | | \ \\ | (*) | \ )) ______ |__U__| / \// / Fido \ _//|| _\ / (________) (_/(_|(____/ (jm) Membership for the International FidoNet Association Membership in IFNA is open to any individual or organization that pays an annual specified membership fee. IFNA serves the international FidoNet-compatible electronic mail community to increase worldwide communications. ** Name _________________________________ Date ________ Address ______________________________ City & State _________________________ Country_______________________________ Phone (Voice) ________________________ Net/Node Number ______________________ Board Name____________________________ Phone (Data) _________________________ Baud Rate Supported___________________ Board Restrictions____________________ Special Interests_____________________ ______________________________________ ______________________________________ Is there some area where you would be willing to help out in FidoNet?_______ ______________________________________ ______________________________________ Send your membership form and a check or money order for $25 to: International FidoNet Association P. O. Box 41143 St Louis, Missouri 63141 USA Thank you for your membership! Your participation will help to insure the future of FidoNet. ** Please NOTE that IFNA is a general not-for-profit organization in formation and Articles of Association and By-Laws were adopted by the membership in January 1987. An Elections Committee has been established to fill positions outlined in the By-Laws for the Board of Directors. An IFNA Echomail Conference has been established on FidoNet to assist the Elections Committee. We welcome your input on this Conference. -----------------------------------------------------------------