The F I D O N E W S Volume 19, Number 50 16 Dec 2002 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are | | | FidoNet community. | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings| | | | | San Francisco, California, USA | | | ____________| | | | | / __ | Crash netmail articles to: | | | / / \ | Editor @ 2:2/2 (+46-31-944907) | | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | Routed netmail articles to: | | \_______\(_| /_) | Bjorn Felten @ 2:203/0 | | _ @/_ \ _ | Email attach to: | | | | \ \\ | bfelten@telia.com | | | (*) | \ ))| | | |__U__| / \// | Editor: Bj”rn Felten | | ______ _//|| _\ / | | | / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | | (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Copyright 2002 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally. Table of Contents 1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1 2. INSIDE ................................................... 2 The Fidonews at a Glance ................................. 2 3. EDITORIAL ................................................ 3 Article submissions ...................................... 3 4. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 4 2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U ........................ 4 5. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 5 Spanking the Fidonews Editor. :) ......................... 5 6. FIDONET CURRENT EVENTS ................................... 6 The 12 days of Christmas ................................. 6 7. OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER .......................... 8 Life is a PARTY .......................................... 8 8. POET'S CORNER ............................................ 10 P H I L O S O P H E R .................................... 10 9. CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ..................................... 11 IMPOSSIBILITIES .......................................... 11 10. BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING .................. 12 FIDONet Software References .............................. 12 11. FIDONET BY INTERNET ..................................... 17 Fidonet-related sites .................................... 17 12. SPECIAL INTEREST ........................................ 22 Nodelist Stats ........................................... 22 13. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 24 How to Submit an Article ................................. 24 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 26 FIDONEWS 19-50 Page 1 16 Dec 2002 ================================================================= FOOD FOR THOUGHT ================================================================= "The fool doth think he is wise, but the wiseman knows himself to be a fool." - William Shakespeare ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-50 Page 2 16 Dec 2002 ================================================================= INSIDE ================================================================= The Fidonews at a Glance In a guest editorial this week, Frank Vest vents some thoughts about articles not always appearing in the first available Snooze, this in his "Spanking the Fidonews Editor. :)". Something that, of course, cannot be left uncommented by this editor, in "Article submissions" I try to explain some aspects of that issue. The motorcycle travel in the "2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U" down under, now has reached day eleven. In "The 12 days of Christmas", Warren Bonner writes about what seems to be a Christmas carol. I must admit this editor doesn't recognize it at all, but I guess it's about something that all our Anglo-Saxon readers are familiar with. I got some associations to an old song, about a soldier and his deck of cards, that were his Bible, his almanac and something more... Another one from Warren, in his own column, "Life is a PARTY" is I guess, best described as autumn leaves. More from Warren, "P H I L O S O P H E R", about how you can use a bucket of water to measure your own importance. And finally (yes you've guessed it), from Warren, a joke that's a variant of a classic theme, "IMPOSSIBILITIES". ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-50 Page 3 16 Dec 2002 ================================================================= EDITORIAL ================================================================= Article submissions In a guest editorial this week, Frank Vest vents some thoughts about articles not appearing in time in the Snooze. In particular that call for an FTSC election in last week's edition. Well, Frank, and everyone else, with hindsight vision 20/20 and all that, it's obvious it was a mistake to let that article wait another week (it had already waited two weeks from the call for the election was made in en open echo, until the submission was sent in). Let me just point out the importance to clearly state in the submission mail, if an article is "time critical". The editor doesn't always have the time to carefully read through an article until it is picked out to be published, you should not rely on a special sentence in the article to trigger an emergency procedure. When I'm at it, some more words of caution. Sending articles via internet e-mail is perfectly OK. But be aware that the editor's mailbox is constantly bombarded with hundreds of junkmail each week. To select the few proper e-mail from all this garbage, is a really hard task, and there's always the risk that real contributions get lost between penis enlargers and Nigeria letters, unless you make sure the header looks really, really OK (proper information in all the fields of the header). If you really want to help the editor, don't import the text into the e-mail, send it as an attached text file (the good ol' DOS-like *.TXT type, not some other format). If you also try to enter a header in the article (as lined out in the end of each Snooze), it saves the editor some ten to twenty minutes, and also makes it more probable, that the article appears the way you wanted it, and not reformatted the way the software, used by the editor, makes it. The most safe way to send a contribution, still is via fidonet. For 100% safety, send it as a crash file attach to 2:2/2, then you can be absolutely sure it will get through. But even a routed, fidonet netmail is more safe than an internet e-mail. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-50 Page 4 16 Dec 2002 ================================================================= GENERAL ARTICLES ================================================================= 2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U Submitted by David Drummond, 3:640/305 Day 11 - Wednesday 13th August (Mt Isa to Hughenden) Bought Rick a few magazines and took them up to him. He hadn't slept well the night before and was now having trouble keeping his eyes open. We told him we were leaving Mt Isa today and wished him well. Called in at the post office. No news of the parcel from Morgan & Wacker. Called in again at Mt Isa Motorcycles, in case it had turned up there. Still nothing. Suddenly the lady remembered that the Post Office had notified her of some parcels to be collected. She said she would go and collect them, in case mine is among them. We packed up our stuff from the caravan park, fuelled up (with Premium Unleaded Petrol ("PULP") - a real treat for my bike!) and went back to the bike shop. Lo and behold, she had the part! Note: If sending for parts, get them sent to me care of the Post Office - not care of a motorbike shop. At last we were heading east again, through the Curry, stopped at a rest area for lunch, fuelling up again at Julia Creek. PULP again - but 10 cents a litre dearer than Mt Isa. On the road again to Richmond, then Hughenden - fighting a cold southerly all the way. Was that why my fuel economy was so bad today, or is it the type of fuel? Stayed in our usual place at our usual caravan park at Hughenden. Went into town for dinner at our usual Chinese Restaurant. It is the old-fashioned type of Australian Chinese restaurant - 10 pages of menu items (not numbered, though) and served with a fork and spoon - no offer of chopsticks. Run by a family - Mum is "head waitress", Dad out of the back cooking, and the two teenage boys also waiting at tables in between doing homework at one of the tables and watching Home and Away on the big TV in the restaurant. We had a mixed entree (1 dim sim, 1 spring roll and a prawn and ham toast, with a small container of red dipping sauce). Then we both had "Sizzling King Prawns with Garlic Sauce" and shared a small plate of fried rice. There was so much, I didn't manage to finish all mine, but of course David ate his all up. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-50 Page 5 16 Dec 2002 ================================================================= GUEST EDITORIAL ================================================================= Spanking the Fidonews Editor. :) By Frank Vest 1:124/6308.1 In the Fidonews Volume 19, Number 49 on 09 Dec 2002 the "Inside" section mentions an article sent by Todd Cochrane as being a, "little late", since it should have been in the previous week's edition. I also note that articles sent by myself were "late". I mention my articles to make a point, rather than to forward my status, ambitions or whatever one might assume. The death of someone in Fidonet is a sad event, and more so when it is someone who was popular, important to Fidonet and so forth. Still, the world does not stop for such events. While many articles are of less importance than the death of our friend, Bennie Hutto, there are articles that are of, at least, equal importance. The announcement of the FTSC election, I believe, is one such article. In matters of time critical events that impact all of Fidonet, such as the FTSC election, it is important to get the information out to Fidonet Nodes. As I mentioned in one of my articles, the Fidonews is THE newsletter of Fidonet. It is used to inform Fidonet of happenings in Fidonet that affect Fidonet as well as other articles of interest. I wonder what would have happened if there had been 4 deaths in Fidonet... one each week for 4 weeks... Would the announcement of the FTSC election or other events impacting all of Fidonet be delayed 4 weeks? I would hope not, but it appears that this would be the case. :( I do understand my articles being delayed for the death of our friend Bennie. My articles were not of importance to all of Fidonet... at least not to the extent of something such as the FTSC election. Devoting a Fidonews edition to someone is a nice gesture, but please, Mr. Editor, remember that there are time critical events that happen in Fidonet that are equally important and should not be put on hold. I don't know what Bennie would think about this, but I hope and think that he would agree. Regards, Frank Vest - 1:124/6308.1 ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-50 Page 6 16 Dec 2002 ================================================================= FIDONET CURRENT EVENTS ================================================================= The 12 days of Christmas By Warren Bonner wdbonner@pacbell.net I don't know how accurate this is, but it sounds quite possible. What in the world do leaping lords, French hens, swimming swans, and especially the partridge who won't come out of the pear tree have to do with Christmas? A friend of mine apparently found this on the thanks to the Internet. From 1558 until 1829, Roman Catholics in England were not permitted to practice their faith openly. Someone during that era wrote this carol as a catechism song for young Catholics. It has two levels of meaning: the surface meaning plus a hidden meaning known only to members of their church. Each element in the carol has a code word for a religious reality which the children could remember. The partridge in a pear tree was Jesus Christ. Two turtle doves were the Old and New Testaments. Three French hens stood for faith, hope and love. The four calling birds were the four gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke & John. The five golden rings recalled the Torah or Law, the first five books of the Old Testament. The six geese a-laying stood for the six days of creation. Seven swans a-swimming represented the sevenfold gifts of the Holy Spirit: Prophesy, Serving, Teaching, Exhortation, Contribution, Leadership, and Mercy. The eight maids a-milking were the eight beatitudes. Nine ladies dancing were the nine fruits of the Holy Spirit: Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness, and Self Control. The ten lords a-leaping were the ten commandments. The eleven pipers piping stood for the eleven faithful disciples. The twelve drummers drumming symbolized the twelve points of belief in the Apostles' Creed. FIDONEWS 19-50 Page 7 16 Dec 2002 So there is your history for today. This knowledge was shared with me and I found it interesting and enlightening and now I know how that strange song became a Christmas Carol. Have a Merry Christmas Season! ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-50 Page 8 16 Dec 2002 ================================================================= OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER ================================================================= Life is a PARTY By Warren Bonner wdbonner@pacbell.net This was written by an 83 year old... Dear Bertha, I'm reading more and dusting less. I'm sitting in the yard and admiring the view without fussing about the weeds in the garden. I'm spending more time with my family and friends and less time working. Whenever possible, life should be a pattern of experiences to savor, not to endure. I'm trying to recognize these moments now and cherish them. I'm not "saving" anything; I use my good china and crystal for every special event such as losing a pound, getting the sink unstopped, or the first Amaryllis blossom. I wear my good blazer to the market. My theory is if I look prosperous, I can shell out $28.49 for one small bag of groceries. I'm not saving my good perfume for special parties, but wearing it for clerks in the hardware store and tellers at the bank. "Someday" and "one of these days" are losing their grip on my vocabulary. If it's worth seeing or hearing or doing, I want to see and hear and do it now. I'm not sure what others would've done had they known they wouldn't be here for the tomorrow that we all take for granted. I think they would have called family members and a few close friends. They might have called a few former friends to apologize and mend fences for past squabbles. I like to think they would have gone out for a Chinese dinner or for whatever their favorite food was. I'm guessing; I'll never know. It's those little things left undone that would make me angry if I knew my hours were limited. Angry because I hadn't written certain letters that I intended to write one of these days. Angry and sorry that I didn't tell my family and parents often enough how much I truly love them. I'm trying very hard not to put off, hold back, or save anything that would add laughter and luster to our lives. And every morning when I open my eyes, tell myself that it is special. Every day, every minute, every breath truly is a gift from God. If you received this, it is because someone cares for you. If you're too busy to take the few minutes that it takes right now to forward this, would it be the first time you didn't do the little thing that would make a difference in your relationships? I can tell you it certainly won't be the last. Take a few minutes to FIDONEWS 19-50 Page 9 16 Dec 2002 send this to a few people you care about, just to let them know that you're thinking of them. "People say true friends must always hold hands, but true friends don't need to hold hands because they know the other hand will always be there." I don't believe in Miracles. I rely on them. Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance!! Happy Holidays!!!!!! Warm Regards, Ol'wdb ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-50 Page 10 16 Dec 2002 ================================================================= POET'S CORNER ================================================================= P H I L O S O P H E R Submitted by Warren Bonner wdbonner@pacbell.net Sometime, when you're feeling important, Sometime, when your Ego's in bloom, Sometime, when you take it for granted You're the best qualified in the room. Sometime, when you feel that your going, Would leave an unfillable hole, Just follow this simple instruction And see how it humbles your soul: Take a bucket, and fill it with water, Put your hand in it, up to the wrist, Pull it out, and the hole that's remaining, Is a measure of how you'll be missed. You can splash all you please when you enter, You can stir up the water galore, But stop and you'll find in a minute, That it looks quite the same as before. The moral of this quaint example, Is to do just the best that you can, Be proud of yourself, but remember, There is no indispensable man ! Author unknown ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-50 Page 11 16 Dec 2002 ================================================================= CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ================================================================= IMPOSSIBILITIES By Warren Bonner wdbonner@pacbell.net A woman was walking along the beach when she stumbled upon a Genie's lamp. She picked it up and rubbed it, and lo-and-behold a Genie appeared. The amazed woman asked if she got three wishes. The Genie said, "Nope...due to inflation, constant down-sizing, low wages in third-world countries, and fierce global competition, I can only grant you one wish. So...what'll it be?" The woman didn't hesitate. She said, "I want peace in the Middle East. See this map? I want these countries to stop fighting with each other." The Genie looked at the map and exclaimed, "Gadzooks, lady! These countries have been at war for thousands of years. I'm good but not THAT good! I don't think it can be done. Make another wish." "The woman thought for a minute and said, "Well, I've never been able to find the right man. You know, one that's considerate and fun, likes to cook and helps with the housecleaning, is good in bed and gets along with my family, doesn't watch sports all the time and is faithful. That's what I wish for ... a good mate." 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UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c 218/109 | Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c 220/10 | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c 229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c 229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? | 229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c 261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c 275/311 | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1 |n/c 280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c 323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c 393/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c 379/1 | Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c 379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 396/45 | Marc Lewis |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL | n/c 2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c 2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c 2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c 2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo 2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c 3613/1275 | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c 3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3634/12 | Mark Lewis |FTP,VMoT,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c 3830/9 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|? -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 2 | 20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c 22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c 28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c 37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c 47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 53/558 |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|?? 201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c 201/505 | G”ran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c 203/600 | Mikael Karlsson |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k | n/c 211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BinkP | 8/2mb | n/c 221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c 236/205 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c 240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c FIDONEWS 19-50 Page 20 16 Dec 2002 252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c 255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c 263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c 280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 280/1601 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c 280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c 292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE, BinkP | 128k | n/c 292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c 292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c 301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c 332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c 333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c 335/534 | Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c 335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c 341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | | 341/66 | Angel Ripoll | VMoT | | 343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT | | 344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c 346/3 | Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c 347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | | 348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | | 382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c 465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c 469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c 550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c 2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c 2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c 2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c 2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c FIDONEWS 19-50 Page 21 16 Dec 2002 -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 3 633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c 640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c 712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c 774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 4 801/161 | Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c 902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 6 65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free 653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free 654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free 654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks * TX = TransX * NFS = Linux Networking * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer * QWK = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable ---------------------------------------------- Fidonet oriented news servers news.fidotel.com (currently offline) news.osirusoft.com news.tardis.net nntp://fido.bitsoft.ro nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro Fidonet oriented chat rooms. room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted) irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-50 Page 22 16 Dec 2002 ================================================================= SPECIAL INTEREST ================================================================= Nodelist Stats Input nodelist nodelist.347 size 1034.4kb date 2002-12-13 The nodelist has 9201 nodes in it and a total of 11978 non-comment entries including 6 zones 59 regions 450 hosts 631 hubs admin overhead 1146 ( 12.46 %) and 952 private nodes 321 nodes down 358 nodes on hold off line overhead 1631 ( 17.73 %) Speed summary: >9600 = 723 ( 7.86 %) 9600 = 7990 ( 86.84 %) (HST = 172 or 2.15 %) (CSP = 1 or 0.01 %) (PEP = 11 or 0.14 %) (MAX = 0 or 0.00 %) (HAY = 1 or 0.01 %) (V32 = 4335 or 54.26 %) (V32B = 443 or 5.54 %) (V34 = 5268 or 65.93 %) (V42 = 4364 or 54.62 %) (V42B = 465 or 5.82 %) 2400 = 93 ( 1.01 %) 1200 = 7 ( 0.08 %) 300 = 388 ( 4.22 %) ISDN = 903 ( 9.81 %) ---------------------------------------------------------- File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems ---------------------------------------------------------- XA Frontdoor <1.99b 3231 Frontdoor 2.02+ Dutchie 2.90c Binkleyterm >2.1 D'Bridge <1.3 TIMS Xenia -------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-50 Page 23 16 Dec 2002 XB Binkleyterm 2.0 7 Dutchie 2.90b -------------------------------------- XC Opus 1.1 11 -------------------------------------- XP Seadog 6 -------------------------------------- XR Opus 1.03 48 -------------------------------------- XW Fido >12M 374 Tabby KittenMail -------------------------------------- XX D'Bridge 1.30 4090 Frontdoor 1.99b Intermail 2.01 T-Mail -------------------------------------- None QMM 1434 -------------------------------------- CrashMail capable = 2910 ( 31.63 %) MailOnly nodes = 4999 ( 54.33 %) Listed-only nodes = 717 ( 7.79 %) Other = 575 ( 6.25 %) [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100] [ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-50 Page 24 16 Dec 2002 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFORMATION ================================================================= How to Submit an Article If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here are some guidelines, if you send it as an attached file; the preferred method if you want reasonable control over how the published article will appear in the Fidonews: a) Plain ASCII text. 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