The F I D O N E W S Volume 19, Number 39 30 Sep 2002 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are | | | FidoNet community. | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings| | | | | San Francisco, California, USA | | | ____________| | | | | / __ | Crash netmail articles to: | | | / / \ | Editor @ 2:2/2 (+46-31-944907) | | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | Routed netmail articles to: | | \_______\(_| /_) | Bjorn Felten @ 2:203/0 | | _ @/_ \ _ | Email attach to: | | | | \ \\ | bfelten@telia.com | | | (*) | \ ))| | | |__U__| / \// | Editor: Bj”rn Felten | | ______ _//|| _\ / | | | / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | | (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Copyright 2002 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally. Table of Contents 1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1 2. INSIDE ................................................... 2 The Fidonews at a Glance ................................. 2 3. FIDONET NET NEWS ......................................... 3 Net382 Get Together ...................................... 3 4. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 5 2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U ........................ 5 5. FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN .......................... 6 Crock-O-Magic ............................................ 6 6. POET'S CORNER ............................................ 7 Parent's poetry .......................................... 7 7. CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ..................................... 10 MURPHY AGAIN ............................................. 10 Kids do the Darndest ..................................... 17 8. BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................... 18 FIDONet Software References .............................. 18 9. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 23 Fidonet-related Sites .................................... 23 10. SPECIAL INTEREST ........................................ 28 Nodelist Stats ........................................... 28 11. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 30 How to Submit an Article ................................. 30 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 32 FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 1 30 Sep 2002 ================================================================= FOOD FOR THOUGHT ================================================================= "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw (1944) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 2 30 Sep 2002 ================================================================= INSIDE ================================================================= The Fidonews at a Glance Some news from Frank Vest about a "Net382 Get Together" first out this week. It's ever so nice to hear about actual get togethers amongst fidonet people, let's hear more about stuff like that from other parts of our network, please! The Australian rally goes on, now on its third day. A rather short episode of the "2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U". Dish of the day is "Crock-O-Magic", Carol cleans her fridge from all the leftovers and turns it into one big dish. In the Poet's section we can read about "Parent's poetry". Once again it's an author unknown, let's hope we wont get into trouble with the somewhat strange copyright rules of the US over this one. Submitted by Henk den Adel is a big collection of variations of good ol' Murphy and his famous law. It's called "MURPHY AGAIN" and can be found in the jokes section together with "Kids do the Darndest", another collection, this one of things that an anonymous mother from Texas learned from her kids. The collection submitted by Warren Bonner. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 3 30 Sep 2002 ================================================================= FIDONET NET NEWS ================================================================= Net382 Get Together Sent in by Frank, 1:124/6308.1 ===================================================================== ***> N O T I C E - N O T I C E - N O T I C E - N O T I C E <*** ===================================================================== Hello ALL Net382 Sysops/Co-Sysop's, Texans & Russians & Guests What: It is time for the Saturday Oct. 5, 2002 Net382 Meeting! Where: City Market BBQ, E. Davis & Hwy 183, Luling, TX When: First Saturday, at 13:00 (1:00pm) (until whenever) with any Luck, we'll all be sitting at one of the two Long tables, if not their are lots of smaller tables and booths. Who: Net 382 Sysops/Co-Sysop's (Wives, Sweethearts -- or both) Friends & Relatives, ankle-biters & rug-rats are Optional.. Why: Mass consumption of mass production, conversation, sneaker netting, Q&A, rubbing elbows with Gary Crain,Mike Tripp and sons(maybe),Steve Quarrella (exR19C Emeritus),Bat Lang and Bill Eastman and many other old timers.. Discuss pecan Blossoms, Power Outages, Sun Spots, Halloween.. maybe we will also Welcome a New Member to Net382... How: Be there or be talked about... :-) Orders: Place your Meal order in the Back room with the BBQ Pits you can order Brisket by the number of slices you want or by weight measure and whether you want inside slices or outside slices, and Pork ribs by the number of ribs you want, by the Rack, or by weight measure, Home made Sausages are sold by the ring.. the Beverages, Beans, Potato Salad etc are sold at the front counter.. as well as Free doggie bags and napkins.. bring you own forks, and calachies.. MAP: Austin to Luling TX HWY 183 south | | | San Marcos=>-Hyw 80------------------| Luling, TX | | City Market BBQ --->XX | FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 4 30 Sep 2002 ----E. Davis St.----------------------- Farmers Market ############################################# Rail road Tracks | | <==============Hwy 90===========================Hwy 90==============> | | | <<=to=Seguin =====IH-10 =====================IH-10 >===to Houston===> ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 5 30 Sep 2002 ================================================================= GENERAL ARTICLES ================================================================= 2002 Off Centre Rally - The Big U Submitted by David Drummond, 3:640/305 Day 3 - Tuesday 6th August (Theodore to Fairburn Dam) Met Rick at the intersection of the main road and the Cracow road. He had a good look at the oil leak and decided it was the oil pressure switch. We thought it probably looked worse than it was. Took the shortcut road from Theodore to Moura which had a bit of dirt on it. At Moura, we stopped for morning tea at the bakery, rang our friend Peter who used to live nearby to tell him where we were. Then we rang Morgan & Wacker to order a new oil pressure switch to be sent on to Mt Isa. I would collect it the following Monday. Rick collected his mobile phone messages - returning one from his real estate agent who wanted to organise the demolition of part of the house he was renting. He set them straight on that notion! Stopped for lunch in the town rest area at Springsure, watched by a one-legged magpie. Pushed on to Emerald, arriving mid-afternoon. Found the camping shop after a tour of the CBD, but they didn't have any suitable gas cylinders for Rick. Headed out to Fairburn Dam. It was packed with caravans. Note: Next time, stay at one of the caravan parks in Emerald! Had a severe headache which I tried to dull with Panadol. Unfortunately the restaurant where we had planned to have dinner wasn't open that evening. As I didn't feel up to cooking, we all made do with roast pork rolls from the shop, just before the closed at 6pm. The lady at the kiosk said that we could eat them on the desk over- looking the lake, which turned out to be very pleasant. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 6 30 Sep 2002 ================================================================= FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN ================================================================= Crock-O-Magic Yield: 8 Servings 1 ea Whole leek, wash and chop 1 ea Leftover lettuce, chop 1 ea Fistfuls of leftover cabbage 2 ea Chopped leftover carrots 1 ea Wilting potato, chopped 1 ea Fistful leftover lima beans 1 ea Leftover yellow/green squash 1 ea Leftover turnip, chopped 1 ea Almost overripe tomato, chop 1 ea Apple, wilting, remove bad Spots and chop 1 ea Fistful dry rice or 1 cup Cooked rice Water to cover This is true magic. Its called making food that you will like, out of leftovers you would otherwise toss out. This recipe is spawned off of one popular in the depression era. The trick is to toss everything you have about to be no longer usable, into the crockpot and then cover with water and slowcook it for 12 hours on low. This one also takes well to the addition of leftover ribs, or just the leftover rib bones for flavoring. Nutritional information: Low fat, low sodium (pending on additions made), sugar-free. Serve with a small portion of smoked salmon salad on stone ground wheat crackers and a glass of iced tea. From the kitchen of: xxcarol MMMMM ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 7 30 Sep 2002 ================================================================= POET'S CORNER ================================================================= Parent's poetry Passed on by warbond@netscape.net My son came home from school one day, with a smirk upon his face. He decided he was smart enough, to put me in my place. "Guess what I learned in Civics Two, that's taught by Mr. Wright? It's all about the laws today, The "Children's Bill of Rights." It says I need not clean my room, don't have to cut my hair. No one can tell me what to think, or speak, or what to wear. I have freedom from religion, and regardless what you say, I don't have to bow my head, and I sure don't have to pray. I can wear earrings if I want, and pierce my tongue & nose. I can read & watch just what I like, and get tattoos from head to toes. And if you ever spank me, I'll charge you with a crime. I'll back up all my charges, with the marks on my behind. Don't you ever touch me, my body's only for my use, not for your hugs and kisses, that's just more child abuse. Don't preach about your morals, like your Mama did to you. That's nothing more than mind control, And it's illegal too! Mom, I have these children's rights, so you can't influence me, or I'll call Children's Services Division, better known as C.S.D. Of course my first instinct was To toss him out the door. But the chance to teach him a lesson made me think a little more. FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 8 30 Sep 2002 I mulled it over carefully, I couldn't let this go. A smile crept upon my face, he's messing with a pro. The next day I took him shopping at the local Goodwill Store. I told him, "Pick out all you want, there's shirts & pants galore. I've called and checked with C.S.D. who said they didn't care if I bought you K-Mart shoes instead of those Nike Airs. And I've canceled that appointment to take your driver's test. The C.S.D. is unconcerned so I'll decide what's best. I said "No time to stop and eat, or pick up stuff to munch. And tomorrow you can start to learn to make your own sack lunch. Just save the raging appetite, and wait till dinner time. We're having liver and onions, a favorite dish of mine. He asked "Can I please rent a movie, to watch on my VCR?" "Sorry, but I sold your TV, for new tires on my car. I also rented out your room, you'll take the couch instead. All the C.S.D. requires is a roof over your head. Your clothing won't be trendy now, and I'll choose what we eat. That allowance that you used to get, will buy me something neat. I'm selling off your jet ski, dirt-bike & roller blades. Check out the "Parents Bill of Rights," It's in effect today! Hey hot shot, are you crying, and why are you on your knees? Are you asking God to help you out, instead of C.S.D..? Your teacher, Mr. Wright is wrong, FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 9 30 Sep 2002 for he forgot your parents are your song. They love and care for your every need, as long as you share that love with them. Author unknown ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 10 30 Sep 2002 ================================================================= CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ================================================================= MURPHY AGAIN collected by Henk den Adel (2:286/6415) Murphy's law If anything can go wrong, it will Murphy extended 1 If any sequence of events can go wrong, they will happen in the worst possible order Murphy extended 2 Everything goes wrong at the same time Murphy's constant The damage to an object is proportional to its value Iles law There is always an easier way Gumpersons law The probability of an event is inversely proportional to its desirability Murphy's judgement about thermodynamics Things under pressure tend to be worse Pudders law Everything that starts ok, ends up wrong. Everything that starts up wrong, ends up worse. Howe's law Everybody has a system that does not work. Especially in gambling. The Zymurgy law about expanding systems If you open up a box of worms, they only fit in a larger box Evans and Bjorns observation Whatever goes wrong, there is always someone who knew it would. Imbesi's law about the conservation of dirt If something should be cleaned, something else will get dirty Freeman's extension ...however you can make everything dirty without cleaning up anything Tussmans law Nothing is so inevitable as the error which has just matured Fahnestocks rule about failure If you do not succeed at once, destroy all evidence pointing to you ever trying. FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 11 30 Sep 2002 Dude's duality Out of two possible events, only the worst will happen. Perrussels law Even the simplest of all jobs can be screwed up Kens law A flying object will home in on the nearest eye The universal laws for naive engineers, as collected by the International Society of Philosophical Engineers 01. Any error that may be introduced into a calculation, will be introduced. 02. Any error in a calculation will lead to the worst possible damage. 03. Constant properties in a formula should be treated as variables. 04. The most essential items in a plan or drawing have the highest probability to be forgotten. 05. If there is just one firm that has an item for sale, its price will be astronomically high. 06. If the test set-up is functioning perfectly, all production units will fail 07. Any promise for the time of delivery should be multiplied by two. 08. Substantial changes in a product will be needed if the production process is nearly completed. 09. Parts that absolutely should not be mounted in the wrong order, will be mounted in a random order. 10. Mutually interchangeable parts will display a unique behaviour. 11. Identical units, that under test display the same behaviour, will be quite different in every days practice. Richards rule about property: If you dispose an item, you will need it at the moment you burned it. Meteorological observation The wind speed is proportional to the costs to restyle your hair at the hairdresser. Hutchinsons law If a matter demands your utmost concentration, something urgent will divert your attention. Polaks motto If you are not allowed to make any mistakes, you are in the wrong job Rogers law The moment coffee is being served, turbulence will hit the aeroplane. Davis explanation of Rogers law Serving coffee causes turbulence Boobs rule Items will be found in the most unlikely places. Maryanns observation FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 12 30 Sep 2002 Unnecessary items never get lost Osborns law Variables aren't variable, constants tend to vary Beaches law There aren't any identical parts that seem to be the same. Willoughby law, also known as 'the demonstration effect' The moment you want to demonstrate a working solution, it will no longer work. Bittons law The moment you understand its principles of operation, the item is obsolete The law of the selective gravity An object falls to a spot where it causes maximum damage Paul's law You can not drop from the floor Chapmans comment on Paul's law It will take three years of their lives for children to master Paul's law. De Vries dilemma If you hit two keys of your typewriter simultaneously, the wrong one will hit the paper. The theory of selective supervision The moment of your coffee break coincides with the moment your boss enters your room. Shapiro's law The guy that does the least effort, will receive the highest wages. Harvard's law Under carefully controlled circumstances regarding pressure, temperature, volume, humidity and other variables, organisms will do what they like. Young's law All major discoveries are accidental Brooke's law The same moment a system is completed, some nutcase discovers a new effect, which renders the system useless or completely unrecognisable. The first law of working in a lab Hot glass looks the same as cold glass. The fifth law of unreliability Making errors is in the human nature, however if you want to screw up entirely, use a computer. FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 13 30 Sep 2002 Einstein's observation As far as mathematical formulae refer to the real world, they are not flawless; as far as they are flawless, the don't refer to the real world. The law of survival for lectures Keep a low profile, the lecturer will not notice you. Ville's law for teachers Nobody is listening, until you make a mistake. The working class dilemma 1. Whatever you do, it is never enough 2. The things you don't do, are always more important than the things you're doing. Conways law In every organisation there is always one man that really knows how the organisation runs. He is the first one in line to be fired. Kushners law The probability some one does something wrong, is inversely proportional to the number of people to do it correctly. Johns observation In order to get a mortgage, you have to prove you don't need one. Weilers law Nothing is impossible for the one that has not have to do it himself. Weinbergs second law If contractors would build in the same way as programmers write their programs, any woodpecker would cause the collapse of civilisation. The rule of bedfellows The snoring party will fall asleep first. Meaders law If a mishap crosses your path, any friend or member of your family has experienced the same, only worse. Van Goghs law The necessary appreciation for an artist will grow after his death. Liebermans law Everybody is lying, however it does not matter, since nobody listens. Finmans principle of clearance sales The article you want, is never on sale Glasers law If it reads: uni-size, it won't fit anyone. Observations of telephone 1. The phone rings when you are outside struggling to find your keys FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 14 30 Sep 2002 2. When you pick up the hook, you are just in time to hear the other one disconnecting. 3. When dialling the wrong number, it is never busy First law of cycling Whatever road you choose, the wind is always head-on Pinto's law When you do some one a favour, from that moment on it will be your duty. Lerman's observation on technology Any technical problem can be solved, provided there is enough time and money. Neither of them is ever provided. Bells law The moment your body is entirely submerged in your bath, the phone rings Phillips these 4-wheel drive means that your car will get stuck where even a tow truck can't reach you. Heeres' law New clothes attract dirt Otto Bochs observation: Murphy was an optimist The law of breaking symmetry A cylindrically symmetric object will fit in its hole in just one way. The law of numerical iterations The initial value for a Newton-Raphson iteration will tend to be one of the many extreme values of the function. The law of array calculations Hermitic arrays will end up with entirely complex diagonal elements. Menalda's law 1 + 1 is hardly ever equal to 2 The law of selective direction: A buttered slice of bread will fall with the butter facing the ground. The law of the police Officers of the law are always in the wrong place. When your car is stolen, there are gone to a congregation in Oslo, however if you forget to fill up the parking meter in Oslo, the annual congregation of law enforcing officers is held in the same street. Queuing theory Sigstads law FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 15 30 Sep 2002 If its your turn, they change the rules. Etorre's observation The other queue runs faster O'Brien variant Etorre's observation will hold, even if you switch queues. Queuing principle The possibility you are waiting in the wrong queue is proportional to its length. When rushing to a shorter queue, it instantly changes into a long queue. If your queue is long, people behind you will be sent to a short queue. If you step out for a brief moment, your queue grows exponentially. If you are in a short queue, people will have many family and friends Murphy's law in electronics: 1) The most expensive part protects the cheapest part. A CRT of 100 Euro burns down to protect a 1 eurocent fuse against blowing. 2) When unscrewing a box, your Philips screwdriver is missing. 3) When closing a box with screws, you will notice that you had to pull the security switch at the moment the last screw is in place. 4) When closing a box with 14 screws, you will notice that you have forgotten to insert the wafers, when doing the 13th screw. 5) When you have to close a box with N screws, N-1 are available. 6) If you service a radar installation, you will end up with something vital as a modulator. 7) Any amplifier will oscillate 8) Any oscillator will just amplify 9) When interchanged, they will do what they are meant to do. 10) If N transistors are needed for a specific circuitry, N-1 are on stock 11) The time of delivery for parts not in stock is proportional to the importance they have in the circuitry. 12) There are no replacements for parts not in stock. 13) A falling screwdriver will home in on the most expensive part of the circuitry. 14) A paperclip will land with its backside on the - pole of the battery and the front side on the + pole. In some fortunate cases it only will short circuit the battery. 15) The pins for the anode and the cathode are switched in replacements. The same holds for the shield and the grid. Murphy in astronomy and related space exploration 1) The transmitter responsible for the data transmission will break down at launch. 2) When a satellite arrives in orbit around Mars, two days earlier a dust storm has risen. 3) Sagans first lemma: dust storms are generated by the presence of satellites 4) When the dust storm settles, the batteries of the satellite are flat and the solar panels are covered with meteorite dust. FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 16 30 Sep 2002 5) Sagans second lemma: dust storms on Mars are being driven by the batteries of the satellite. 6) Sagans third lemma: meteorite dust protects solar panels against the vicious solar radiation. 7) When a satellite has to transmit important information, maintenance is being performed on the only receiving station in range of the satellite. 8) During solar eclipses it is completely clouded. 9) Impacts of comets on Jupiter coincide with the national holiday on Hawaii. 10) Meteor clouds tend to occur around the full moon. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 17 30 Sep 2002 Kids do the Darndest Anonymous Mother, Austin Texas Submitted by Warren Bonner, Things I've learned from my children (honest & no kidding) 1) A king size waterbed holds enough water to fill a 2000 sq. ft. house 4 inches deep. 2) If you spray hairspray on dust bunnies and run over them with roller blades, they can ignite! 3) A 3-year olds voice is louder than 200 adults in a crowded restaurant. 4) If you hook a dog leash over a ceiling fan, the motor is not strong enough, to rotate a 42 pound boy wearing Batman underwear and a Superman cape. It is strong enough, however, if tied to a paint can, to spread paint on all four walls of a 20 x 20 foot room. 5) You should not throw baseballs up when the ceiling fan is on. When using a ceiling fan as a bat, you have to throw the ball up a few times before get a hit. A ceiling fan can hit a baseball a long way. 6) The glass in windows (even in double-pane) doesn't stop a baseball hit by ceiling fan. 7) When you hear the toilet flush and the words "uh oh," it's already too late. 8) Brake fluid mixed with Clorox makes smoke, and lots of it. 9) A six-year old can start a fire with flint rock even though a 36- year old man says they can only do it in the movies. 10) Certain Lego's will pass through the digestive tract of a 3- year old. 11) Play Dough and microwave should not be used in the same sentence. 12) Super glue is forever. 13) No matter how much Jell-o you put in a swimming pool you still can't walk on water. 14) Pool filters do not like Jell-o. 15) VCR's do not eject PB&J sandwiches even though TV commercials show they do. 16) Garbage bags do not make good parachutes. 17) Marbles in gas tanks make lots of noise when driving. 18) You probably do not want to know what that odor is. 19) Always look in the oven before you turn it on. Plastic toys do not like ovens. 20) The fire department in Austin, TX has a 5-minute response time. 21) The spin cycle on the washing machine does not make earthworms dizzy. 22) It will, however, make cats dizzy. 23) Cats throw up twice their body weight when dizzy. 24) The mind of a 6-year old is wonderful. 25) It is also mischievous, daring, exploratory and adamant. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 18 30 Sep 2002 ================================================================= BEN RITCHEY'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ================================================================= -=:{ FIDONet Software Reference }:=- Type: M=Mailer T=Tosser B=BBS D=Door C=Comm/Terminal P=Points E=Editor I=Internet U=Utility ?=Info .- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -. |Software: Author |Type |URL, Contact, Ver, Notes Help Node| `- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -' Argus |M |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ 2:469/84 | | argus@ritlabs.com Tel: 373-2-246889 | | v3.210 on Mar 20th 2001 BeeMail: |M |http://beemail.gexonline.net 1:105/10 Stephen Proffit | | BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net 1:1/102 | | v2.60XE/Gamma-6 on Nov 11th 1998 BinkD |MI |http://2f.ru/binkd/ | | maloff@corbina.net | | v0.94 on Jul 24th 2000 Fidonet to Internet: |MI |http://www.terminate.com Bo Bendtsen | | sales@terminate.com | | v2.00 on Mar23rd 1997 FrontDoor, FD/APX: |MTPC |http://www.defsol.se 2:201/330 Definite Solutions | | sales@defsol.se 1:1/101 | | v2.26SW & v2.33ml FD, v1.15 APX Husky Project |MTPUI|http://husky.sf.net RC2: Sep 18th 2002 InterMail, InterEcho,|MT |http://www.ifido.com 1:1/133 Allfix | | sales@ifido.com | | v2.50 IM, v1.19 IE, v5.13 AF Tmail |MI |http://www.tmail.spb.ru v2608 WildCat! Interactive |MTBEI|http://www.santronics.com Net Server, Platinum| | sales@santronics.com Xpress: Santronics | | Tel: (305) 248-3204 Software, Inc. | | AUP 450.2 on Jul 9th 2002 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ Fidogate |TUI |http://www.fidogate.org | | Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net v4.4.4 FMail |T |http://fmail.nl.eu.org 2:280/1076 | | wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org v1.60 JetMail: JetSys |TU |http://www.jetsys.de js@jetsys.de FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 19 30 Sep 2002 (ATARI ST only) | | v1.01 on Jan 1st 2000 Squish |T |http://www.lanius.com | | sales@lanius.com v1.11 | |http://www.vector11.com/maximus/ Synchronet BBS |TB |http://www.synchro.net | | sysop(at)vert(dot)synchro(dot)net | | v3.10i Beta on Apr 30th 2002 Watergate |TUI |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/ | | ramon@sbbs.se | | v0.93p9 on Dec 14th 1998 +- - - - - - - - - - -+- - -+- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -+ BBBS |BI |http://www.bbbs.net b@bbbs.net | | v4.00MP on Oct 25th 1999 2:22/222 ELEBBS: The Elevator |B |http://www.elebbs.com Software Production | | elebbs@elebbs.com | | v0.10.RC1 on Jun 9th 2002 Falken BBS |B |http://falkenbbs.com | | v12.0 on Feb 2nd 2002 Hermes II Project |B |http://www.hermesii.org | | info@HermesII.org v3.5.9 Beta Final Maximus BBS |B |http://www.lanius.com | | sales@lanius.com v3.01 | |http://www.vector11.com/maximus/ MBSE BBS: |BI |http://mbse.sourceforge.net 2:280/2802 Michiel Broek | | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net | | v0.33.21 on Jun 4th 2002 Mystic BBS |B |http://www.mysticbbs.com | | v1.07.3 on May 13th 2001 Nexus BBS |B |http://www.nexusbbs.net | | groberts@nexusbbs.net | | v0.99.41.001 beta on Jun 10th 2001 Proboard BBS |B |http://www.proboard.be | | v2.17 on Jun 9th 2002 RemoteAccess BBS: |B |http://www.rapro.com 1:1/120 Bruce Morse | | bfmorse@rapro.com | | v2.62.2SW Spitfire BBS: Buffalo|B |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/ Creek Software | | MDWoltz@aol.com 1:1/150 | | v3.6 on Aug 20th 1999 Telegard BBS |B |http://www.telegard.net | | support@telegard.net FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 20 30 Sep 2002 | | v3.09g2 SP4 +- - 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UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c 218/109 | Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c 220/10 | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c 229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c 229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? | 229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c 261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c 275/311 | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1 |n/c 280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c 323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c 393/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c 379/1 | Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c 379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 396/45 | Marc Lewis |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL | n/c 2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c 2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c 2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c 2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo 2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c 3613/1275 | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c 3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c 3830/9 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|? -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 2 | 20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c 22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c 28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c 37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c 47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 53/558 |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|?? 201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c 201/505 | G”ran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c 201/600 | H†kan Andersson |BinkP,FTP |512kbps| n/c 203/600 | Mikael Karlsson |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k | n/c 211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BinkP | 8/2mb | n/c 221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c 236/205 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c 240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c 252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c 255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c 263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c 280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 26 30 Sep 2002 280/1601 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c 280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c 292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE, BinkP | 128k | n/c 292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c 292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c 301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c 332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c 333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c 335/534 | Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c 335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c 341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | | 341/66 | Angel Ripoll | VMoT | | 343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT | | 344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c 346/3 | Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c 347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | | 348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | | 382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c 465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c 469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c 550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c 2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c 2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c 2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c 2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 3 633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c 640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 27 30 Sep 2002 712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c 774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 4 801/161 | Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c 902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 6 65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free 653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free 654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free 654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks * TX = TransX * NFS = Linux Networking * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer * QWK = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable ---------------------------------------------- Fidonet oriented news servers news.fidotel.com (currently offline) news.osirusoft.com news.tardis.net nntp://fido.bitsoft.ro nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro Fidonet oriented chat rooms. room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted) irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 28 30 Sep 2002 ================================================================= SPECIAL INTEREST ================================================================= Nodelist Stats Input nodelist nodelist.270 size 1047.6kb date 2002-09-27 The nodelist has 9388 nodes in it and a total of 12138 non-comment entries including 6 zones 58 regions 454 hosts 646 hubs admin overhead 1164 ( 12.40 %) and 931 private nodes 284 nodes down 371 nodes on hold off line overhead 1586 ( 16.89 %) Speed summary: >9600 = 730 ( 7.78 %) 9600 = 8163 ( 86.95 %) (HST = 173 or 2.12 %) (CSP = 1 or 0.01 %) (PEP = 12 or 0.15 %) (MAX = 0 or 0.00 %) (HAY = 1 or 0.01 %) (V32 = 4452 or 54.54 %) (V32B = 463 or 5.67 %) (V34 = 5390 or 66.03 %) (V42 = 4438 or 54.37 %) (V42B = 482 or 5.90 %) 2400 = 98 ( 1.04 %) 1200 = 8 ( 0.09 %) 300 = 389 ( 4.14 %) ISDN = 936 ( 9.97 %) ---------------------------------------------------------- File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems ---------------------------------------------------------- XA Frontdoor <1.99b 3328 Frontdoor 2.02+ Dutchie 2.90c Binkleyterm >2.1 D'Bridge <1.3 TIMS Xenia -------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 29 30 Sep 2002 XB Binkleyterm 2.0 8 Dutchie 2.90b -------------------------------------- XC Opus 1.1 10 -------------------------------------- XP Seadog 6 -------------------------------------- XR Opus 1.03 54 -------------------------------------- XW Fido >12M 381 Tabby KittenMail -------------------------------------- XX D'Bridge 1.30 4155 Frontdoor 1.99b Intermail 2.01 T-Mail -------------------------------------- None QMM 1446 -------------------------------------- CrashMail capable = 2989 ( 31.84 %) MailOnly nodes = 5079 ( 54.10 %) Listed-only nodes = 723 ( 7.70 %) Other = 597 ( 6.36 %) [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100] [ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-39 Page 30 30 Sep 2002 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFORMATION ================================================================= How to Submit an Article If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here are some guidelines, if you send it as an attached file; the preferred method if you want reasonable control over how the published article will appear in the Fidonews: a) Plain ASCII text. 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