The F I D O N E W S Volume 19, Number 21 27 May 2002 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are | | | FidoNet community. | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings| | | | | San Francisco, California, USA | | | ____________| | | | | / __ | Crash netmail articles to: | | | / / \ | Editor @ 2:2/2 (+46-31-944907) | | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | Routed netmail articles to: | | \_______\(_| /_) | Bjorn Felten @ 2:203/0 | | _ @/_ \ _ | Email attach to: | | | | \ \\ | bfelten@telia.com | | | (*) | \ ))| | | |__U__| / \// | Editor: Bj”rn Felten | | ______ _//|| _\ / | | | / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | | (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Copyright 2002 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally. Table of Contents 1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1 2. INSIDE ................................................... 2 The Fidonews at a Glance ................................. 2 3. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 3 Confessions of an Ex-Sysop (2) ........................... 3 Why I like Fidonet, part 1: The abuse .................... 4 4. OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER .......................... 6 Stop to salute on Memorial Day ........................... 6 5. FIDONET NOTICES .......................................... 8 Announcing a new message conference for FidoNet sysops ... 8 EVER BEEN ON A HOLIDAY TO PORTUGAL OR SAUDI ARABIA? ...... 8 6. CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ..................................... 10 Andy Roony's Sayings ..................................... 10 Russian anecdote ......................................... 11 7. TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................. 12 Fidonet Software List .................................... 12 8. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 16 Fidonet-related Sites .................................... 16 9. SPECIAL INTEREST ......................................... 21 Nodelist Stats ........................................... 21 10. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 23 How to Submit an Article ................................. 23 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 24 FIDONEWS 19-21 Page 1 27 May 2002 ================================================================= FOOD FOR THOUGHT ================================================================= The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure, and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-21 Page 2 27 May 2002 ================================================================= INSIDE ================================================================= The Fidonews at a Glance As promised last week, we have number two in the "Confessions of an Ex-Sysop" series by Steve Townsley this week, and there's more to come. Inspired by Steve's first article, Petko Bossakov starts, what promises to be a another interesting series, with a piece called "Why I like Fidonet, part 1: The abuse". OL'WDB sent in something for his column. It's called "Stop to salute on Memorial Day". It's a wee bit chauvinistic to this editors taste, but I know many of our US readers like this stuff. A couple of announcements. First of a new echo, "Announcing a new message conference..." by Bob Short, then a request from Ward Dossche for help on locating any remaining fido systems in Portugal and Saudi Arabia in "EVER BEEN ON A HOLIDAY TO...". Finally a couple of jokes. "Andy Roony's Sayings" by Warren Bonner plus a "Russian anecdote" that I cut from ENET.SYSOP. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-21 Page 3 27 May 2002 ================================================================= GENERAL ARTICLES ================================================================= Confessions of an Ex-Sysop (2) Steve Townsley stownsley@g7spn.org Last time I said that technically FidoNet was as relevant as a 360KB floppy disk. If that offends you I apologise. Running a FidoNet node always took hard work and dedication. Despite this no-one should kid themselves that running a FidoNet BBS is an expanding hobby. The fact that no new softare is being written for FidoNet is critical in this regard. Just recently I had a look around websites for FidoNet compatible software. In place after place there were notices that this or that version was no longer being updated. In short the most talented people we (the Sysop Community) had in FidoNet have left. Consider a year like 1989. At that time you had people like Thom Henderson still developing SEAdog (SEAMail), Opus CBCS was being updated, as was FrontDoor etc etc. Today there is no significant "killer apps" being developed. I have detected some attempt to create IP connected software but there seems no standard and, worse still, a seemingly never ending attempt to shoehorn IP aware products into the telephone-centric nodelist. Without talented programming and technical innovation FidoNet cannot evolve into the next generation. It is not that FidoNet MUST go Internet but rather the Internet is now the medium that FidoNet's original audience use. They don't dial their local BBS and ask for help about a software product. Instead they log-on to the vendors website. More importantly for FidoNet Sysops is the fact that connecting to their ISP is probably cheaper than dialing the nearest FidoNet node and the Internet means that the difference between long distance and local has disappeared. FidoNet should now be issuing new nodelists where the normal activity is based on Internet connectivity and that nodes that have dial-up gateways are unusual. My observation is that several technologies are coming togther that makes a leap to the net easy for FidoNet. I also believe that right now the need for FidoNet on the Internet is more important than ever. Looking at the technology first. DSL is now providing the means for "always on" Internet connections. People with DSL can run a BBS 24 hours a day or some kind of virtual BBS with the ability of forwarding entire message boards to clients that call in from dial-up Internet connections. Peer-to-Peer networks are showing that we can share file areas, messages and chat via a central computer that simply keeps all the clients informed what's available. I believe new FidoNet server software is needed in which clients call in and are able to download messages (echomail), files, and have realtime chat (instant messaging). I think such software is necessary because the Internet is now moving to Pay-as-you-go model for value FIDONEWS 19-21 Page 4 27 May 2002 added services - the very services Fido BBS's had for callers in the 1980s and 1990s. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Why I like Fidonet, part 1: The abuse Petko Bossakov, 2:535/1 After having read the article "Confessions of an Ex-Sysop", I couldn't help generally agreeing with it. However, it made a few thoughts pop up in my mind, and if you allow me, I will quote here the part that made me ponder the meaning of Life, the Universe, Everything, and, over all, Fidonet. "What disturbs me sometimes is the reverse snobbery that exists in FidoNet about the Internet. You must have come across the argument that 'I run my BBS because it's much faster than the net with all those graphics and adverts'. Instead I would prefer sysops just to say I run FidoNet because I like it." That's true, I run Fidonet because I like it. But... why the hell do I like it? I'm not the kind of person who doesn't like progress. It is very fashionable nowadays to say how bad modern technology is, how it alienates us, etc. All this is said by people who would hardly be able to live in a cave, but want to look intelligent. I believe this to be a pure form of snobbery and reactionism. I am writing this article to defend Fidonet, and that's to make it clear that if I am defending a technology, it certainly has its advantages. To me, personally, it's not the cost factor, because the price of the Internet access has become quite affordable in my country. Although dial-up is still the most widespread method of accessing the Internet, it is cheap and has a reasonable transfer speed. It's also not some strange form of nostalgy. I couldn't feel sorry for the good old days, because I was in no way involved with Fidonet during its "years of greatness". So, while the Internet is still a faster, better, and more flexible technology, it probably lacks something that Fidonet can provide... While thinking, wanting to find out what exactly it is, I have decided to write this article. It is a fact that on each computer network there are many misguided individuals whose only desire is to take advantage of the services provided in a forbidden, unfair or impolite way. Fidonet, however, is not a place where they can prolificate. Maybe the reason for this is the way it's organised, maybe it's just too small, maybe only the right people join it. You probably have noticed the whole armory of protection methods you need to feel comfortable and safe on the Internet. To many people, use of thousands of firewalls, anti-spam filters, ad-blocking software, anti-spyware tools, is FIDONEWS 19-21 Page 5 27 May 2002 acceptable. To me, something in the way the Internet works must be changed. Spam. A meal that we're served several times a day. I receive about fifteen pieces on my Internet account everyday, but since I joined Fidonet, I've only seen one there, and it actually originated from the Internet. Actions were promptly taken to deny access to that user. I believe you all remember that occurence, when a message was posted in all echos on February 12 this year. I understand that if the size of Fidonet increases, there would be more abusers and more spam, for sure. Both electronic mail technologies use a store-and-forward method, which makes it hard to track. However, in Fidonet at least you can be sure that you can talk to a cooperating Sysop, who will do anything to find the abuser and ruin their life (heh heh heh), and not to an autoresponder, which is installed, because the dudes at that ISP's abuse department are so overworked that they can't even personally contact you. Having no feedback, I can assume that almost half of spam reports on the Internet are ignored, simply because the ISPs can't cope with them all. To put it in a nutshell, you can be on a BBS, or run one, without the fear of being hacked. You can post your Internet email address without worrying about it being picked up by spammers. You can send Netmail, which is technically very insecure, but you know that the Sysops along its route will do whatever they can to deliver it, and keep it confidential. You can feel safe and comfortable - and this is not an illusory feeling. How's that for a reason to like Fidonet? ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-21 Page 6 27 May 2002 ================================================================= OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER ================================================================= Stop to salute on Memorial Day wdbonner@pacbell.net by Capt. John Rasmussen EAGLE BASE, Bosnia and Herzegovina (Army News Service, May 22, 2002) -- It was raining "cats and dogs" and I was late for physical training. Traffic was backed up at Fort Campbell, Ky., and was moving way too slowly. I was probably going to be late and I was growing more and more impatient. The pace slowed almost to a standstill as I passed Memorial Grove, the site built to honor the soldiers who died in the Gander airplane crash, the worst redeployment accident in the history of the 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault). Because it was close to Memorial Day, a small American flag had been placed in the ground next to each soldier's memorial plaque. My concern at the time, however, was getting past the bottleneck, getting out of the rain and getting to PT on time. All of a sudden, infuriatingly, just as the traffic was getting started again, the car in front of me stopped. A soldier, a private of course, jumped out in the pouring rain and ran over toward the grove. I couldn't believe it! This knucklehead was holding up everyone for who knows what kind of prank. Horns were honking. I waited to see the butt-chewing that I wanted him to get for making me late. He was getting soaked to the skin. His BDUs were plastered to his frame. I watched-as he ran up to one of the memorial plaques, picked up the small American flag that had fallen to the ground in the wind and the rain, and set it upright again. Then, slowly, he came to attention, saluted, ran back to his car, and drove off. I'll never forget that incident. That soldier, whose name I will never know, taught me more about duty, honor, and respect than a hundred books or a thousand lectures. That simple salute -- that single act of honoring his fallen brother and his flag -- encapsulated all the Army values in one gesture for me. It said, "I will never forget. I will keep the faith. I will finish the mission. I am an American soldier." FIDONEWS 19-21 Page 7 27 May 2002 I thank God for examples like that. And on this Memorial Day, I will remember all those who paid the ultimate price for my freedom, and one private, soaked to the skin, who honored them. Ol'wdb ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-21 Page 8 27 May 2002 ================================================================= FIDONET NOTICES ================================================================= Announcing a new message conference for FidoNet sysops only! By Bob Short, 1:105/38 Some of you know how FN_SYSOP has changed over the years, for good to bad to good, and so forth. The echo's rules have been interpreted differently by many different moderators, and are subject to changes at the discretion of the moderator, without the approval of the real owners... sysops. Because of this, it's history has been plagued with flame wars, threats, and poor moderating by some. FIDO_SYSOP was created to afford sysops a place to meet that will maintain it's intergrety and restriction to FidoNet sysops, and protect participants from abusive behavior, by writing into the rules restrictions on what may be changed, and by whom. This exclusive FidoNet Only echo is both owned and changed by the participating sysops, and not by any moderator. I encourage all FidoNet sysops to link to this echo, even if you have no interest in "politics". As an international echo, carried by all the backbones, it will give each of you an opportunity to address the specific issues that concern you, and many upper level coordinators who are active there. No topic is "off topic", so you are free to talk about anything on your mind. I am particularly interested in seeing more people from zones 2-6 joining, as there are events and Policy issues up for debate which may have an affect on all of us. Your input is very important! So, link up to FIDO_SYSOP today and see what and who you've been missing! Bob Short FIDO_SYSOP Moderator bsbbser@juno.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- EVER BEEN ON A HOLIDAY TO PORTUGAL OR SAUDI ARABIA? By Ward Dossche@2:292/854 ... because if you have I need your help in the management of zone-2. For quite some time the segment of Portugal (region-36) and Saudi Arabia (region-54) have not been updated anymore. Mail for both remains on hold here indefinitely. I can reach the RC54 but he says that the region has folded, perhaps that a few independent systems operate via whatever technology but he is unable to provide further information. RC36 whom I've considered as a personal friend over the years seems to have dissappeared from the globe. Mail remains on hold forever for months now where everything in the past got collected several times a FIDONEWS 19-21 Page 9 27 May 2002 week. ZC/4 has been courteous enough to provide me with this RC's email-address derived from Portugese language echoes, but to no avail. The email-address of another Portuguese sysop in the nodelist yields no answer either. The logical consequence will be that I will have to remove the entries of both regions from the nodelist unless some form of life can be detected in these regions. Does anyone anywhere in Fidonet have a contact with sysops in both these regions or a clue what to do about it? If so, please send me a netmail at my regular address 2:292/854 or use email via "wd@skynet.be". Thank you for helping ... if you can. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-21 Page 10 27 May 2002 ================================================================= CLEAN HUMOUR & JOKES ================================================================= Andy Roony's Sayings By Warren Bonner 1. If you have a lot of tension and you get a headache, do what it says on the aspirin bottle. Take two and keep away from children. 2. It's a very strange name they picked for "Social Security." For what they actually send you, you can't afford to be "social" nor can you really feel "secure." 3. Short skirts have a tendency to make men polite. Have you ever seen a man get on a bus ahead of one? 4. It is hard to understand how a cemetery raised its burial cost and blamed it on the cost of living. 5. We are born naked, wet, and hungry. Then things get worse. 6. The 50-50-90 rule: Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there's a 90% probability you'll get it wrong. 7. It is said that if you line up all the cars in the world end to end, someone would be stupid enough to try and pass them. 8. If the shoe fits, get another one just like it. 9. The things that come to those who wait may be the things left by those who got there first. 10. Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he will sit in a boat drinking beer all day. 11. When you're swimming in the creek and an eel bites your cheek, that's a moray! 12. A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. 13. The only cure for insomnia is to get more sleep. 14. Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter since nobody listens. 15. I wished the buck stopped here. I could use a few. 16. When you go into court you are putting yourself in the hands of 12 people that weren't smart enough to get out of jury duty. Ol'wdb ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-21 Page 11 27 May 2002 Russian anecdote From RU.ANEKDOT Posted in ENET.SYSOP By Vilo Mlich, 2:421/50 - What is a true russian dinner? - Box of beer, bottle of vodka, big piece of 'kolbasa' and a dog. - Why the dog? - After all, someone has to eat the 'kolbasa'. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-21 Page 12 27 May 2002 ================================================================= TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ================================================================= Fidonet Software List By Todd Cochrane Type: B=BBS D=Door M=Mailer T=Tosser C=Communication (terminal) U=Utility P=Point Software I=Internet (telnet, BinkP...) <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=+=-=-+-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+> ( Software Name ) |Type| ( Author/Contact ) <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=|=-=-|-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+> |BBBS Home Page |B | b@bbbs.net | | | | www.bbbs.net/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |ELEBBS The Elevator |B | elebbs@elebbs.com | |Software Production | | www.elebbs.com | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Hermes II Project |B | info@HermesII.org | | | | http://www.hermesii.org/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Maximus BBS Support |B | sales@lainus.com | |Page (Non Official) | | http://www.vector11.com/maximus/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |MBSE BBS |B | Michiel Broek | | | | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net | | | | http://mbse.sourceforge.net | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Mystic BBS |B | http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/ | | | | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Nexus Bulletin |B | groberts@nexusbbs.net | |Board System | | http://www.nexusbbs.net/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Proboard, Searchlight, |BC | info@telegrafix.com | |Telegrafix | | http://www.telegrafix.com | |Communications | | 540-678-4050 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |RemoteAccess |B | Bruce Morse | |Central | | bfmorse@rapro.com | | | | http://www.rapro.com/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Spitfire BBS |B | MDWoltz@AOL.COM | |Buffalo Creek Software | |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Synchronet BBS |BT | sysop@vert.synchro.net | | | | http://www.synchro.net | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Telegard BBS |B | support@telegard.net | | | | http://www.telegard.net/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Wildcat Interactive |BTMI| sales@santronics.com | |Net Server | | http://www.santronics.com | FIDONEWS 19-21 Page 13 27 May 2002 |Plantinum Express | |(305)248-3204 | | | | Santronics Inc. | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Bentstone Capabilities |D | info@stonebenders.com | |Group | | http://www.srupc.com/mall | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Jibben Software |D | scott@jibben.com | | | | http://www.jibbensoftware.com/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |JNS Software Door Games|D | Rusty Johnson | | | | rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com | | | | 304-733-0113 | | | | http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Legend Of The Red |D | | |Dragon Reborn | | | |(L.O.R.D.) | | http://www.lordlegacy.org/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |PC Pursuits |D |brucep@pop.kis.net | | | |(301)240-6653 | | | |http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |S and T Software |D |Mark Bappe | | | |mark.bappe@bozax.iainc.net | | | |(770)788-6843 | | | |http://bozax.iainc.net/public/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Shinning Star BBS Doors|D |nannette@shiningstar.net | | | |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Sunrise Door Software |D |Al Lawerence | | | |al@sunrisedoors.com | | | |(404)256-9518 | | | |http://www.sunrisedoors.com/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |The Brainex System |D |info@brainex.com | | | |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Trade Wars Door Game |D |jpritch@eisonline.com | | | |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/ | | | |1:299/110 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Vagabond Software |D |Bryan Turner | | | |vagabond@darktech.org | | | |http://vagabond.virtualave.net/ | | | |1:124/7013 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |FMail Support |T |wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org | | | |http://fmail.nl.eu.org/ | | | |2:280/1076 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Squish Tosser |T |http://www.lanius.com/squish.htm | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Argus RITLABS |M |argus@ritlabs.com | | | |373-2-246889 | | | |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ | FIDONEWS 19-21 Page 14 27 May 2002 | | |2:469/84 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |FrontDoor |MTPC|Definite Solutions | |FrontDoor APX | |sales@defsol.se | |Mailer/Point Software | |http://www.defsol.se/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |BeeMail Home Page |M |http://beemail.gexonline.net | | | |Stephen Proffit | | | |1:211/405 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net/ | |Frontend Mailer | | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |BinkD |MI |maloff@corbina.net | | | |http://2f.ru/binkd/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Fidogate |UIT |Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net | | | |http://www.fidogate.org/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Fidonet to Internet |IM |Bo Bendtsen | |Mailer | |sales@terminate.com | | | |http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |GiGo Software |UI |http://www.gigo.com/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Internet Rex |IM |cruden@cs.ualberta.ca | | | |http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Tmail |IM |http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm | |(Russian /w English DL)| | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |TransX Multiboard |M |support@multiboard.com | |Communications Inc. | |http://www.multiboard.com/software/ | | | |transx.html | | | |1:2401/305 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |TransNet |I |transnet@ressl.com.ar | | | |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Watergate |I |ramon@sbbs.se | | | |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |JetSys-Home of JetMail |TU |http://www.jetsys.de/ | |JetStat and other Atari| | | |Fidonet utilities | | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |APoint (Author) |P |http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm| | | |http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Autho) | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |CrossPoint |P |("Original" version) | | | |http://www.crosspoint.de | | | |http://www.apoint-mail.de | | | |(OpenXP Projekt) | | | |http://www.openxp.com (English) | | | |http://www.openxp.de (German) | | | |CrossPoint (XP2 Team) | FIDONEWS 19-21 Page 15 27 May 2002 | | |http://www.xp2.de | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |WinPoint95 |P |http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |The OpenXP CrossPoint |P |http://www.happyarts.de/xp | |Projekt | | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Terminate Terminal |P |http://www.terminate.com | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |PPoint-FTS compatible |P |http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm | |E-Mail System | | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| 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UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c 218/109 | Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c 220/10 | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c 229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c 229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? | 229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c 261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c 275/311 | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK| T1 |n/c 280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c 323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c 393/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c 379/1 | Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c 379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 396/45 | Marc Lewis |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL | n/c 2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c 2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c 2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c 2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo 2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c 3613/1275 | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c 3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c 3830/9 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP FTP IFCICO VMoT UUE|?|? -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 2 | 20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c 22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c 28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c 37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c 47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 53/558 |Vladimir Hrusca|POP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP,ifcico|2mbs|?? 201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c 201/505 | G”ran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c 201/600 | H†kan Andersson |BinkP,FTP |512kbps| n/c 203/600 | Mikael Karlsson |BinkP,FTP,TX,UUE| 512k | n/c 211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BinkP | 8/2mb | n/c 221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c 236/205 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c 240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c 252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c 255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c 263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c 280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 280/1601 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c FIDONEWS 19-21 Page 19 27 May 2002 280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c 280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c 292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k | n/c 292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | n/c 292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c 292/907 | Bart Verhaeghe | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K | n/c 292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c 301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c 332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c 333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c 335/534 | Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c 335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c 341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | | 341/66 | Angel Ripoll | VMoT | | 343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT | | 344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c 346/3 | Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c 347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | | 348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | | 382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c 465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c 469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c 550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c 2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c 2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c 2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c 2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 3 633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c FIDONEWS 19-21 Page 20 27 May 2002 640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c 712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c 774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 4 801/161 | Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c 902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 6 65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free 653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free 654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free 654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks * TX = TransX * NFS = Linux Networking * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer * QWK = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable ---------------------------------------------- Fidonet oriented news servers news.fidotel.com (currently offline) news.osirusoft.com news.tardis.net nntp://fido.bitsoft.ro nntp://bbs.bitsoft.ro Fidonet oriented chat rooms. room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted) irc.sinoptix.ro : malay, chinesse, english, #fido, #fidonet, #wwb irc.bitsoft.ro : 6667 russian, english, hebrew, #fido, #wwb irc.tsua.net : 6668 russian, english #fido ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-21 Page 21 27 May 2002 ================================================================= SPECIAL INTEREST ================================================================= Nodelist Stats Input nodelist nodelist.144 size 1103.7kb date 2002-05-24 The nodelist has 9923 nodes in it and a total of 12812 non-comment entries including 6 zones 63 regions 465 hosts 682 hubs admin overhead 1216 ( 12.25 %) and 927 private nodes 344 nodes down 402 nodes on hold off line overhead 1673 ( 16.86 %) Speed summary: >9600 = 927 ( 9.34 %) 9600 = 8492 ( 85.58 %) (HST = 181 or 2.13 %) (CSP = 1 or 0.01 %) (PEP = 12 or 0.14 %) (MAX = 0 or 0.00 %) (HAY = 1 or 0.01 %) (V32 = 4768 or 56.15 %) (V32B = 496 or 5.84 %) (V34 = 5670 or 66.77 %) (V42 = 4682 or 55.13 %) (V42B = 517 or 6.09 %) 2400 = 107 ( 1.08 %) 1200 = 7 ( 0.07 %) 300 = 390 ( 3.93 %) ISDN = 1017 ( 10.25 %) ---------------------------------------------------------- File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems ---------------------------------------------------------- XA Frontdoor <1.99b 3582 Frontdoor 2.02+ Dutchie 2.90c Binkleyterm >2.1 D'Bridge <1.3 TIMS Xenia -------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-21 Page 22 27 May 2002 XB Binkleyterm 2.0 8 Dutchie 2.90b -------------------------------------- XC Opus 1.1 10 -------------------------------------- XP Seadog 6 -------------------------------------- XR Opus 1.03 60 -------------------------------------- XW Fido >12M 393 Tabby KittenMail -------------------------------------- XX D'Bridge 1.30 4434 Frontdoor 1.99b Intermail 2.01 T-Mail -------------------------------------- None QMM 1430 -------------------------------------- CrashMail capable = 3199 ( 32.24 %) MailOnly nodes = 5368 ( 54.10 %) Listed-only nodes = 774 ( 7.80 %) Other = 582 ( 5.87 %) [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100] [ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-21 Page 23 27 May 2002 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFORMATION ================================================================= How to Submit an Article If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here are some guidelines, if you send it as an attached file; the preferred method if you want reasonable control over how the published article will appear in the Fidonews: a) Plain ASCII text. 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