The F I D O N E W S Volume 19, Number 07 18 Feb 2002 +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are | | | FidoNet community. | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings| | | | | San Francisco, California, USA | | | ____________| | | | | / __ | Crash netmail articles to: | | | / / \ | Editor @ 2:2/2 (+46-31-944907) | | | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | Routed netmail articles to: | | \_______\(_| /_) | Bjorn Felten @ 2:203/0 | | _ @/_ \ _ | Email attach to: | | | | \ \\ | bfelten@telia.com | | | (*) | \ ))| | | |__U__| / \// | Editor: Bj”rn Felten | | ______ _//|| _\ / | | | / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. | | (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ Copyright 2002 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally. Table of Contents 1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1 2. INSIDE ................................................... 2 The Fidonews at a Glance ................................. 2 3. TOP STORIES .............................................. 3 The Email read around the World .......................... 3 4. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 5 Continuing the Computer Nazis' theme ..................... 5 Catcalls from the Cheap Seats ............................ 5 Someone's high! .......................................... 7 September 11th 2001, remembering heroes! ................. 9 Point About SPAM! ........................................ 10 5. OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER .......................... 12 Knowing Makes the Difference ............................. 12 6. FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN .......................... 14 Japanese Deep Fried Tako (Octopus) ....................... 14 7. CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ...................................... 15 BASTARD OPERATOR FROM HELL #5 ............................ 15 Johnny's ordeal .......................................... 16 8. TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................. 18 Fidonet Software List .................................... 18 9. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 22 Fidonet-related sites .................................... 22 10. SPECIAL INTEREST ........................................ 27 Nodelist Stats ........................................... 27 11. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 29 How to Submit an Article ................................. 29 Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 30 FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 1 18 Feb 2002 ================================================================= FOOD FOR THOUGHT ================================================================= Good judgement comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgement. - Texas Bix Bender ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 2 18 Feb 2002 ================================================================= INSIDE ================================================================= The Fidonews at a Glance Unfortunatly(?) work prevented me from finding the time to put together an editorial this week. I'd rather not write anything at all than whipping up something half-hearted. "Top Story" is the spam attack on Fidonet this week. Shannon Talley explains what happened in "The Email read around the World". In the "General Articles" section Bobby Queen gives his point of view on the spam issue in "Point About SPAM!". Gary Gilmore has some thoughts about P4 and the future (or rather lack thereof) for Fidonet in "Someone's high!". Last week's performance went uninterrupted from the cheap seats, but this week Luke is back with more "Catcalls...". Reluctantly I allow yet another article on the Nazi theme; "Continuing the Computer Nazis' theme...". Reluctantly because I know that a lot of readers (including this editor) take offence by the misuse of the symbols from this dark period of mankind. If what you mean to say is "fascist", please don't use a word that has so many other associations attached to it. Finally Ward Dossche reminds us of some things in the world, that could use a little of the same attention, that some more spectacular (media-wise) events get, in "September 11th 2001, remembering heroes!" In "Knowing Makes the Difference" Warren Bonner gives some advice on how to avoid the worst damage if you lose your wallet. Some details are US specific, but you should easily be able to work out your own. In our "International Kitchen" section, Carol makes "Japanese Deep Fried Tako (Octopus)". The fifth episode from "BASTARD OPERATOR FROM HELL" in the "Clean Jokes..." plus "Johnny's ordeal", a cute little child story from the ever so productive Warren Bonner. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 3 18 Feb 2002 ================================================================= TOP STORIES ================================================================= The Email read around the World Shannon Talley, 1:275/311 Tuesday, 12 February 2002, was a beautiful sunny day here in Virginia Beach, and the drive home from work was average. I stopped by the store and picked up some groceries, and continued my trek home, completely unaware of the events that transpired earlier in the day on my BBS. Once I arrived home, I put away the groceries, poured a glass of iced tea, and sat down to check my Email and catch up on echomail. Immediately upon opening my Email, I was absolutely "floored" by the sheer amount I received that afternoon. Nearly 40 Emails in each of my boxes and an equal amount of Netmail had all been waiting my arrival home. I took a deep breath and began to read the first one. Much like the rest of the Emails, it was a simple and kind notification that a user on my BBS had spammed "EVERY SINGLE ECHO in the NAB "AND" the WWB. Most of the Emails were kind, and more informative in nature. Others were extremely nasty Emails from other SYSOPs accusing me of terrible atrocities of which I could never commit. A user named NADIA RIVIERA2 had logged into my server earlier in the day (12:10 est) and verified using my Email verification. I have my Email verification setup to block over 12,000 known "anonymous" Email accounts. However, they used one which wasn't in my system, and effectively "slipped" through the cracks. After verifying, they proceeded directly to my information page regarding accessing Fidonet via Usenet (News-server). Within 30 minutes, they had sent an Email entitled: 23 Female with new website - sexy pics of me.nws to every single echo in Fidonet. It was too late... There was nothing I could do... They had been tossed, and sent.. I immediately banned the user, knowing it was really too late... I then attacked the logs with extreme prejudice. I was able to determine their IP address (65.32.27.188), and then traced it to their ISP (Road Runner-Southeast), and sent them an Email. That wasn't enough... I was very angry. So, I picked up the phone and called them. I talked to someone, who transferred me to someone else, and so on, and so on, until I finally reached a Manager/Administrator (or so he claimed). He knew what Fidonet was, and was aware of what that user really did. Then it dawned on me... Within the text of that users Spam was reference to a "porn" site. So, I traced that porn site to an IP address, and provided that information to the guy I was speaking with on the phone. That IP address was a static IP owned by Road Runner-Southeast! That was the catalyst. That user lost their FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 4 18 Feb 2002 account right then - and there. I could swear I heard him actually hit the delete key on his keyboard as he said, "He's history". So, what do I do now... I feel like I have egg on my face, but heck, it's not really my fault. I have done more to secure my system than most SYSOPs have done. I certainly took care of the situation (after the fact) I don't have time to personally validate each account! I'm a sailor and I go to sea... ALLOT.. I have approximately 15-35(at the most) new users every single day. I'd like to say, "This may happen sometimes"... But that sounds lame. I like Fidonet. I like MY Fidonet Spamless. I believe the most I can do right now is offer you my sincere apology. I'm terribly sorry this happened, and as god as my witness, I will do everything I can to keep this from happening again. Sincerely, Shannon Talley ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 5 18 Feb 2002 ================================================================= GENERAL ARTICLES ================================================================= Continuing the Computer Nazis' theme... by Aleksej R. Serdyukov AKA Deleter 2:5020/1973.20@FidoNet Subj ;) In Russia, we call c.Nazis 'lamers', but there is too many people who use this word to call dummies by it, not excluding dummies themself. Unfortunaly, I would say 'most of people'. But that is not such bad as people on TV, radio etc those knowleges about computers are ZERO. They call hackers 'computer genies', even when talking about real lamers. There are many programs-'scanners' that are used for stealing passwords from ISPs, and each lamer can use them! I know one such man.. He steals passwords and think himself is hacker. Sometimes people from ISP came to him, but he doesn't open the door and thinks he is kewl. Once I heard on TV that a hacker had been arrested in a Russian town for stealing and using passwords from a local ISP. They called him a 'computer genie'! I think he had used the same simple program.. And I remember that was a program about Internet! Heh, mey be if it could be about FidoNet, they wouldn't say so. ;) Hmm, that's all :-| See you later, people! article saved on 12.02.2002 16:23 MSK ----------------------------------------------------------------- Catcalls from the Cheap Seats By Luke Kolin I am anxiously counting the days towards the equinox, when our faithful editor might start seeing significantly more day than night. Already the shorter nights are having some effects on our good Sweede, as he apparently is moving out of his winter hibernation to notice that gosh, BBS software looks an awful lot like a DOS screen of the late 1980s. Not surprising, since the guts of most BBS software was written in the late 1980s and hasn't been updated since. Speaking of ancient history, the university courses I took several years ago on early European governance appear to be bearing fruit at last. Apparently, FidoNet is moving its form of governance from the early feudal period to mid seventeenth century Great Britain's form of representative governance. Let me outline a few basic issues which immediately sprang to mind when I read the proposed Policy changes. First, to claim that sysops now have the right to change Policy is absolutely laughable. At no point do the sysops actually have any means of registering their opinions short of an informal polling of FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 6 18 Feb 2002 the sysop base by an NC. When I was an RC back in 1991-92, I had the opportunity along with the NCs in my Region to vote on the last significant amendment to Policy, Pablo Kleinmann's so-called WorldPol. At that time, we did exactly what this policy amendment suggested we do - we canvassed the sysops in our Nets or Region and voted accordingly. Now, a full decade later, we have a dramatic new suggestion in Policy - we're going to formally codify the voting process as it was in 1992! Such a breathtaking extension of democracy. Bob Short considers such a farce to be "definite and adequate node represntation". Apparently, he's missed out on certian democratic advances that have occurred in the past two centuries, such as the principle of 'one person, one vote' and the universal franchise. Instead, we have the sysops of a rinky-dink two node network (of which there are more than a few) having far more of a say than a vibrant network with fifty to a hundred nodes (do they still exist?) This reminds me of the days of the 'rotten boroughs' in the British Parliament of the eighteenth century where the riding of Old Sarum (and approximately thirty others) had a grand total of one legal voter to vote for the MP. Second, let's assume you have a mid-sized network of fifty nodes that is split down the middle, with twenty folks on each side (and ten who don't care). No matter which way the NC casts his or her ballot, at least twenty nodes will have been utterly disenfrachised - their opinions will not be recognised or recorded. Bob, your democracy questions are clearly answered: there is no democracy, there is no franchise, there is no progress. How can we call a process democratic when it depends on sysops hoping that their NC or RC will listen to what they have to say? Finally, apparently the sysop community isn't trusted enough to actually initiate a policy vote, which remains firmly in the hands of the Regional Co-ordinators. This body has always had the ability to initiate policy changes, and it's precisely because of this that there has been no meaningful change in nearly a decade and a half. Warren mentions in his article that Policy is unable to give sysops the right to vote. Where do these changes do that? Nowhere. He's always supported their right to change policy. So why are we encouraging a policy amendment that explicitly reinforcing their inability to propose change or to vote on change? Let me propose my own changes. 8.1 Initiation A referendum on policy modification is invoked when at least 10% or one hundred sysops, whichever is smaller, in at least three Zones inform the International CooRdinator that they wish to consider a proposed new version of policy. 8.3 Eligibility to Vote FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 7 18 Feb 2002 Each FidoNet sysop holding a valid node number is eligible to vote. Private nodes are eligible to vote, but Hold or Down nodes are not. Really simple. Why hasn't anyone in FidoNet suggested a basic, grassroots level of democracy? Are sysops considered too ignorant to deal with policies that affect their systems and their network? It seems like FidoNet has a problem of trying to shut the barn door after the horse has bolted, so to speak. Under a dual threat from the Internet's rich connectivity and multimedia content, FidoNet chooses to deal with this with.... the telnet BBS. Atfer over a decade of complaints about Policy4 and a lack of sysop ratification, FidoNet chooses to .... formally embed the principle of *C ratification of Policy amendments. It's 1992 all over again. Whatever happened to the cutting-edge aspects of FidoNet that I knew in 1992?= ----------------------------------------------------------------- Someone's high! By: gary gilmore, 1:2410/400 This will be fairly short, and not too sweet. I keep seeing all these posts and articles which keep trying to convince us that, if only somehow we could change the evil and onerous "Policy 4", we'd somehow be saving Fidonet, sun would shine, angelic choruses would sing from heaven on high, and everyone would leave the Internet in droves, wildly attracted to Fidonet again. **POOF** (Here's where they wake up...) Ain't gonna happen in a million years. You're high on crack if you think that changing one single word in Policy 4 will "save" fidonet. If won't do anything. NCs and RCs who care a little are already ignoring (or "looking the other way") on parts of P4 that might not quite work with certain connection schemes. I know I do, both as a NC and a RC. I ignore mail hour (except maybe in some chronic "can't connect" case), I've looked the other way on oddball connections, routings and whatnot that weren't quite "kosher" as per the P4 bible. Don't like that? Remove me. I'll be happy to step down and let someone appoint some hard ass if that's what they like. Now tell me, oh mighty saviours of Fidonet... What change are you going to affect to P4 that'll bring back users, sysops, cause software (which is certainly needed to re-grow Fido) to be written, cause news stories to be read about Fidonet, etc, etc, etc. You're not. You can delete P4, and you're not going to change a damned thing. Those that think P4 is the root of all Fidonet's problems are inspecting their own rectums first hand and internally. (ie; you got your heads up your asses.) FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 8 18 Feb 2002 Changing P4 now is like doing a boob job on a 97 year old woman. Why bother? (If there's any 97yr old female sysops in Fidonet, I don't apologize, and I'll take you on in a boxing match to defend my comments. ) Frank Vest thinks we need a "download door" that'll leech requested files from Web sites. Umm, Frank? If I were a website operator, and noticed this specific traffic, I'd block you for ripping off my site. (I'm running a website, I'm probably making money off advertising, and you're circumventing it... not to mention linking to my files w/o asking.) Who in their right mind is going to sit there on a BBS, select some file, wait while your BBS goes out and magically searches for it, downloads it then redownloads it to you? No one. They'll say "Man, screw this! I'll just find the file on the net!" and you've lost another one. No, a "download door" isn't the answer. (There used to be such "download doors", Frank (though they got files from other BBSes, not the 'net), and they didn't cause a blip on the Fidonet radar where popularity is concerned.) Nice try Frank, but your idea isn't going to work. I'm surprised you don't suggest we need Rip graphics to save our BBSes too. (Or animated ANSI or the like...) In fact (get out the hangmans noose), I don't think there's many ideas that'll work to "save Fidonet". Oh, you can put your BBS "on the net", you can do this and that, you might actually be attracting new users (more than likely, you're just "stealing them" from other BBSes), but you're not "beating" the internet. You're scraping by. Unless you want to spend megabucks for dial-in lines, high-speed connections and practically become a small ISP (while calling it "a BBS"), you're not going to "win" against the internet. You're not even going to break even. You've already lost. I enjoy my BBS, the remaining handful of users (less than 15 anymore) and enjoy most of Fidonet. I KNOW it's dying. It's in the hospice. I want to make it's last moments comfortable, but I'm not going to spend millions in medical procedures that will only prolong the suffering or give me a live body but a dead mind. I see people all over tell me "Oh, YOU might think it's dead, but WE/I am doing and it's..." (my thoughts usually trail off when I hear these pipe dreams, much like when my wife starts detailing the things she wants me to do around the house on my next days off...) You're not saving it. I don't care what you do. You might give it some extended life support, but you will NOT give it any sort of complete recovery. Let's face it, and better yet, let's stop fighting over Fido's will before he's even dead. Shut up! Back off! How about just trying to quit the petty squabbles and enjoy the time we have left with the dog? No, I suppose it's easier for some to piss in each other's sandboxes over bullshit that 99% of the rest of Fidonet (all 10,000 people! Whoohoo!) don't give a damn over (and are looking at you professional FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 9 18 Feb 2002 "battlers" like you're idiots)... I don't get it. I hate Janis, I hate R12, I hate this echo, I hate the sysop one line down from me in the nodelist, I hate the NAB, the Z1B, the WWB, the WWF, the MD, DDA, MSCEX.. Sheesh... buncha babies. Grow up. Get over it and yourselves. YOU are the major problems in the twilight years of Fidonet. Quit Fidonet if it gets your undies in such a damned bunch. IT'S A HOBBY, REMEMBER? If your hobby bugs you that much, IT'S NOT FOR YOU! Quit, please, and do all the rest of us that just want to enjoy what's left alone, ok? If you think you're going to save Fidonet, you're high. You're suckin' on a big spleef, snortin' an ounce, suckin' on a glass pipe, downin' a gallon of Jack Black, but you're really, really high. Calm down and enjoy what's left, eh? Hey, who knows... maybe if everyone sat back to enjoy what's left, what's left might last longer because more people wouldn't hurry out the door with the lack of fighting, saviours and hoohaa. I'm sure the first ones to cut me down on this will be the exact type of people I mention within, but that's to be expected. They know not what they do. Me? I don't care, 'cause I'm off to enjoy the rest of the dog's life while I can. ----------------------------------------------------------------- September 11th 2001, remembering heroes! By: Ward Dossche, 2:292/854 On September 11th 2001 something terrible happened that left many people dead, families and friends in mourning and the guilty-ones -ourselves- are still free. On September 11th 2001 5.000 women died worldwide while giving childbirth because of unhygienical conditions (source WHO). On September 11th 2001 25.000 people died worldwide in traffic related accidents. On September 11th 2001 30.000 children died worldwide because of malnutrition (source WHO). ... A total of 60.000 people dead that never made the headlines because their death wasn't spectacular. The real sad part is that on September 12th 2001 another 60.000 people died uselessly. And on the 13th, 14th, 15th, etc... From then until today (March 15th 2002) that is a grand total of 9.480.000 people that died, which will never be mourned worldwide, nor discussed, nor debated. No politicians step forward, no President ordering to change swords into plowshears. FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 10 18 Feb 2002 With all due respect to the relatives, friends, family of the people that perished in the WTC towers. The 3.000 killed and missing represent about 0.003% of these other deaths. At some point we have to recognise there are worse things in life. I left out the 1.500.000 children in Black Africa that died of Malaria since Sept.11th 2001 (source WHO) who could have been saved with a fraction of the war-cost in Afghanistan. But of course ... Boeing, Marconi, Hughes, several shipyards and dozens others aren't in the vaccine business. 10 years from now the WTC-attack will be a money-maker for New York, it'll be another mandatory stop on sightseeing buses, there'll be T-shirts commemorating the 3 firemen raising the flag but who'll be dead by then because of asbestos inhalation while the city will have again the largest urbanistic project in US history ... still every day 5.000 women die while giving childbirth in unhygienic conditions, 25.000 people die in traffic accidents and 30.000 children die of malnutrition. I hope everyone will be at peace with his/her conscience prior to going to sleep after having read this. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Point About SPAM! By: Bobby Queen 1:379/5 I've not said a word about this except to commend Shannon for taking quick action on the message in question. Point is the user could just have easily have called my BBS long distance, marked all of my echos, downloaded a qwk packet, then called back a month later to see which echos were active and then called back less than an hour later and uploaded a qwk packet that spammed all of the active echos on FidoNet. WAIT THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO ME ROUGHLY 3 MONTHS AGO! But luckily I poll for my mail via FTP and when I respond to people I IMMEDIATELY call back and upload my outgoing mail so when that person uploaded that QWK packet and I saw it was spamming every single echo that was active in the past month I waited until he logged off, first cut his access to the message areas, then dropped to DOS (YES I still run a DOS based BBS) and deleted the outgoing packet. Point is I moderate plenty of echos on FidoNet and I understand that ALOT of the telnetable systems in FidoNet provide folks my echos via NNTP. Shannon was not the only system providing echos in this manner and the only way Sean or Gary or anyone else can keep their echos from being carried by these systems is to either not have their echos carried by FidoNet or make them READ ONLY which would defeat the purpose of most echos. I have seen that Sean relisted a pile of echos with the only change FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 11 18 Feb 2002 being that they are not to be allowed to be gated via NNTP. But logging onto a BBS via the internet and getting mail via NNTP IS NOT GATING! FidoNet has moved past the days of all BBS's being POTS! Sure there are a hand full of us die-hard DOS based BBS's out here but most are now accessible via the internet and the message bases are accessible via all types of methods that they were not accessible by in years past. Moderators are going to have to understand this and either agree to have their echos carried by all of the various methods or else make their echos READ ONLY. Theres just no way that every BBS system on the internet can go through and make just certain echos not accessible via NNTP and others allowed. Besides like I said above I myself had a user try the exact same thing less than 3 months ago and luckily I caught it and stopped it from going out. And this was from a QWK packet on a DOS based BBS system! So I guess then Sean or Gary would not allow their echos to be made available to anyone running a system that allowed QWK packet transfers? See how ridiculous this could get. But this is not the first time FidoNet echos have been spammed and it won't be the last. I guess everyone forgot the pyramid type scheme that was posted in a bunch of echos around a month or so ago or the time that BBS_ADS got spammed from a robot posting his BBS Ad some 800 times in a day or two period. Things like this are going to happen in FidoNet from time to time and thats just something that the moderators are going to have to expect and not get upset over. In all the cases I can remember the SysOp of the system in question has always taken care of the problem in a timely manner and each time they make it a little harder for this to occur again. But I can almost guarantee you it WILL happen again, but lets hope that the next time the moderators are more understanding and not so quick to jump all over a SysOp who usually takes quick action to prevent this from happening again. ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 12 18 Feb 2002 ================================================================= OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER ================================================================= Knowing Makes the Difference wdbonner@pacbell.net This came to my email box from a friend. The Attorney is not named who wrote this article, but his advice is good for every one. I do not know the companies involved in other zones, but this is good information in zone one at least, and may be applicable in other zones if those sysops will contact their banks for the toll free numbers. Place the contents of your wallet on a photocopy machine. Do both sides of each license, credit card, etc. You will know what you had in your wallet and all of the account numbers and phone numbers to call and cancel. Keep the photocopy in a safe place. A corporate attorney sent this out to the employees in his company. I pass it along, for your information. We've all heard horror stories about fraud that's committed using your name, address, SS#, credit, etc. Unfortunately I (the author of this piece who happens to be an attorney) have first hand knowledge, because my wallet was stolen last month and within a week the thieve(s) ordered an expensive monthly cell phone package, applied for a VISA credit card, had a credit line approved to buy a Gateway computer, received a PIN number from DMV to change my driving record information on line, and more. But here's some critical information to limit the damage in case this happens to you or someone you know. As everyone always advises, cancel your credit cards immediately, but the key is having the toll free numbers and your card numbers handy so you know whom to call. Keep those where you can find them easily. File a police report immediately in the jurisdiction where it was stolen, this proves to credit providers you were diligent, and is a first step toward an investigation (if there ever is one). But here's what is perhaps most important (I never ever thought to do this): Call the three national credit reporting organizations immediately to place a fraud alert on your name and SS#. DO this IMMEDIATELY! I had never heard of doing that until advised by a bank that called to tell me an application for credit was made over the Internet in my name. The alert means any company that checks your credit knows your information was stolen and they have to contact you by phone to authorize new credit. By the time I was advised to do this, almost two weeks after the theft, all the damage had been done. There are records of all the credit checks initiated by the thieves' purchases, none of which I knew about before placing the alert. Since then, no additional damage has been done, and the thieves threw my wallet away this weekend (someone turned it in). It seems to have stopped them in their tracks. FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 13 18 Feb 2002 The numbers are: Equifax 1-800-525-6285 Experian (formerly TRW) 1-888-397-3742 Trans Union 1-800-680-7289 Social Security Administration (fraud line) 1-800-269-0271 I sincerely hope this information will help in reminding all of us that personal fraud is rampant these days. Protect your identity and your homes. Humble thanks to Attorney that wrote the majority of this text. Warmest Regards, Ol'wdb ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 14 18 Feb 2002 ================================================================= FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN ================================================================= Japanese Deep Fried Tako (Octopus) 1 lb Tako legs, washed in salted Water and sliced to 3" Pieces Coat with: 2 c Bread crumbs 3/4 c White flour 1/4 c Garlic Powder 3/16 c Garlic salt Xxcarol's sauce for Everything: 1/8 ts Wasabi powder 3 tb Brown Worstershire sauce 3 tb Shoyu (Soy Sauce) Deep fry in a good quality veggie oil and let dry on paper towels. Serve with Tartar or cocktail sauce or for a unique Japanese-like twist try: xxcarol's sauce for everything: For a fully rounded dinner, serve with steamed or boiled Bok Choy (Cabbage and regular American will do in a pinch if you cant find it) and boiled or roasted baby carrots. From: Carol Shenkenberger Date: 19 May 97 Home Cooking ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 15 18 Feb 2002 ================================================================= CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ================================================================= BASTARD OPERATOR FROM HELL #5 I'm bored senseless, so I pass the time by reading users email. I must admit that today's lot is PARTICULARLY boring, not one good message in all of them. I was expecting at LEAST some veiled reference to a grope in a storeroom, but nothing. So I'm bored senseless by the usual drivel about some relative's surgery and how the weather is over the other side of the world - that sort of crap. To relieve the boredom, I remove a e-mail party invite from a user's mail and post it under the senders username to to alt.singles.with.severe.social. dysfunctions on news, and make a note in my diary to be there with my camcorder. Should be a blast! Next in line is the online medical records database, in which the company doctors store the current medical histories of the staff. I grep it quickly for "herpes" and "syphillus" and sell the results to the local scum newspaper. I cover my tracks by adding an entry to one of the doctor's online electronic diarys for yesterday saying "DO500, Med Recs To Paper" I think that's all it should take.. I move some tapes from the racks to the trolley to make it look like we really use them, then start looking thru archie listings for a hidden x-gif site. I find one then start a batch job running under some user's account to get them all back, charged to him. I make sure he's got enough disk for the job by removing any files not related to the task at hand. Like all those "Doctorate Final Report" papers that have got quite large in the last couple of weeks. I go back to the mail now, as something's bound to have happened. I do a grep on all mail files for the words "pregnant" and "family way", and post them anonymously to the local general interest newsgroup. Then, before anything can happen, the power goes out! The next second, the phone rings. "Hello?" I say, annoyed - the coyote was just about to kill roadrunner again! "Has the comput.." I hang up. This is a matter of life or death. Quick as I can I rip the computer power cable out of the UPS and plug the TV in. Damn! Wylie missed again! Meantime, all the alarms are going off like crazy as the disks spin down, but that's ok, because my Mac and Terminal are hardwired to the UPS in any case; and I'm at the Beer Factory level in Dark Castle too. The phone rings, so I pull the PABX breaker on the UPS switchboard and it stops. Now to look like I'm working. I break out the puck and the hockey stick and play a little one-on-wall. From the observation FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 16 18 Feb 2002 window it'll look like I'm being blindingly efficient, as per usual. 10 Minutes later, the power is back and we're two HDA's down, but what the hell, I haven't lost a man, I'm onto the final screen, and there's more cartoons! The phone rings, it's a luser. (What a surprise) "Computer Room" I say, being efficient "Hello, when will the compu..." I hang up. I'm doing well in the screen, all I need do is get past the wizard who throws spells at you and I'm in! The phone rings again. I put it on hands free "Computer Room" I shout, still deep in the game. "I've lost my files" a user whines over the loudspeaker "You bet you have" I say, as my concentration lapses just long enough for me to get zapped by the wizard. "What was your username?" I say, all sweetness and smiles He tells me, I look, and he's right. Shit, and I didn't even do it! Not to be outdone, I change his login directory to the null device, set his path to "." and redefine the command "news" to execute a script in his old login directory to send a nasty message to the equal opportunities officer, then delete itself. Now that's trying! ----------------------------------------------------------------- Johnny's ordeal A first-grade teacher, Ms. Brooks, was having trouble with one of her students. The teacher asked, "Johnny, what is your problem?" Johnny answered, "I'm too smart for the 1st grade. My sister is in the 3rd grade and I'm smarter than she is! I think I should be in the 3rd grade too!" Ms. Brooks had had enough. She took Johnny to the principal's office. While Johnny waited in the outer office, the teacher explained to the principal what the situation was. The principal told Ms. Brooks he would give the boy a test, and if he failed to answer any of his questions he was to go back to the first grade and behave. She agreed. Johnny was brought in and the conditions FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 17 18 Feb 2002 were explained to him and he agreed to take the test. Principal: "What is 3 x 3?" Johnny: "9" Principal: "What is 6 x 6?" Johnny: "36" And so it went with every question the principal thought a third grader should know. The principal looks at Ms. Brooks and tells her, "I think Johnny can go to the 3rd grade." Ms. Brooks says to the principal, "Let me ask him some questions." The principal and Johnny both agreed. Ms. Brooks asks, "What does a cow have four of that I have only two of?" Johnny, after a moment: "Legs." Ms. Brooks: "What is in your pants that you have but I do not have?" The principal wondered, why does she ask such a question! Johnny replied: "Pockets." Ms. Brooks: "What does a dog do that a man steps into?" Johnny: "Pants" Ms. Brooks: What's starts with a C and ends with a T, is hairy, oval, delicious and contains thin whitish liquid? Johnny: Coconut The principal's eyes open really wide and before he could stop the answer, Johnny was taking charge. Ms. Brooks: What goes in hard and pink then comes out soft and sticky? Johnny: Bubble gum Ms. Brooks: What does a man do standing up, a woman do sitting down and a dog do on three legs?" The principal's eyes open really wide and before he could stop the answer. Johnny: "Shake hands" Ms. Brooks: What word starts with an 'F' and ends in 'K' that means a lot of heat and excitement? Johnny: "Firetruck" The principal breathed a sigh of relief and told the teacher, "Put Johnny in the fifth-grade, I got the last seven questions wrong! Ol'wdb ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 18 18 Feb 2002 ================================================================= TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ================================================================= Fidonet Software List By Todd Cochrane Type: B=BBS D=Door M=Mailer T=Tosser C=Communication (terminal) U=Utility P=Point Software I=Internet (telnet, BinkP...) <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=+=-=-+-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+> ( Software Name ) |Type| ( Author/Contact ) <+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=|=-=-|-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+> |BBBS Home Page |B | b@bbbs.net | | | | www.bbbs.net/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |ELEBBS The Elevator |B | elebbs@elebbs.com | |Software Production | | www.elebbs.com | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Hermes II Project |B | info@HermesII.org | | | | http://www.hermesii.org/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Maximus BBS Support |B | sales@lainus.com | |Page (Non Official) | | http://www.vector11.com/maximus/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |MBSE BBS |B | Michiel Broek | | | | mbroek@users.sourceforge.net | | | | http://mbse.sourceforge.net | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Mystic BBS |B | http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/ | | | | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Nexus Bulletin |B | groberts@nexusbbs.net | |Board System | | http://www.nexusbbs.net/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Proboard, Searchlight, |BC | info@telegrafix.com | |Telegrafix | | http://www.telegrafix.com | |Communications | | 540-678-4050 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |RemoteAccess |B | Bruce Morse | |Central | | bfmorse@rapro.com | | | | http://www.rapro.com/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Spitfire BBS |B | MDWoltz@AOL.COM | |Buffalo Creek Software | |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Synchronet BBS |BT | sysop@vert.synchro.net | | | | http://www.synchro.net | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Telegard BBS |B | support@telegard.net | | | | http://www.telegard.net/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Wildcat Interactive |BTMI| sales@santronics.com | |Net Server | | http://www.santronics.com | FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 19 18 Feb 2002 |Plantinum Express | |(305)248-3204 | | | | Santronics Inc. | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Bentstone Capabilities |D | info@stonebenders.com | |Group | | http://www.srupc.com/mall | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Jibben Software |D | scott@jibben.com | | | | http://www.jibbensoftware.com/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |JNS Software Door Games|D | Rusty Johnson | | | | rustyjohnson57@hotmail.com | | | | 304-733-0113 | | | | http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Legend Of The Red |D | | |Dragon Reborn | | | |(L.O.R.D.) | | http://www.lordlegacy.org/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |PC Pursuits |D |brucep@pop.kis.net | | | |(301)240-6653 | | | |http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |S and T Software |D |Mark Bappe | | | |mark.bappe@bozax.iainc.net | | | |(770)788-6843 | | | |http://bozax.iainc.net/public/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Shinning Star BBS Doors|D |nannette@shiningstar.net | | | |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Sunrise Door Software |D |Al Lawerence | | | |al@sunrisedoors.com | | | |(404)256-9518 | | | |http://www.sunrisedoors.com/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |The Brainex System |D |info@brainex.com | | | |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Trade Wars Door Game |D |jpritch@eisonline.com | | | |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/ | | | |1:299/110 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Vagabond Software |D |Bryan Turner | | | |vagabond@darktech.org | | | |http://vagabond.virtualave.net/ | | | |1:124/7013 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |FMail Support |T |wijnstra@fmail.nl.eu.org | | | |http://fmail.nl.eu.org/ | | | |2:280/1076 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Squish Tosser |T |http://www.lanius.com/squish.htm | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Argus RITLABS |M |argus@ritlabs.com | | | |373-2-246889 | | | |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ | FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 20 18 Feb 2002 | | |2:469/84 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |FrontDoor |MTPC|Definite Solutions | |FrontDoor APX | |sales@defsol.se | |Mailer/Point Software | |http://www.defsol.se/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |BeeMail Home Page |M |http://beemail.gexonline.net | | | |Stephen Proffit | | | |1:211/405 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net/ | |Frontend Mailer | | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |BinkD |MI |maloff@corbina.net | | | |http://2f.ru/binkd/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Fidogate |UIT |Martin_Junius@m-j-s.net | | | |http://www.fidogate.org/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Fidonet to Internet |IM |Bo Bendtsen | |Mailer | |sales@terminate.com | | | |http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |GiGo Software |UI |http://www.gigo.com/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Internet Rex |IM |cruden@cs.ualberta.ca | | | |http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Tmail |IM |http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm | |(Russian /w English DL)| | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |TransX Multiboard |M |support@multiboard.com | |Communications Inc. | |http://www.multiboard.com/software/ | | | |transx.html | | | |1:2401/305 | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |TransNet |I |transnet@ressl.com.ar | | | |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Watergate |I |ramon@sbbs.se | | | |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/ | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |JetSys-Home of JetMail |TU |http://www.jetsys.de/ | |JetStat and other Atari| | | |Fidonet utilities | | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |APoint (Author) |P |http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm| | | |http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Autho) | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |CrossPoint |P |("Original" version) | | | |http://www.crosspoint.de | | | |http://www.apoint-mail.de | | | |(OpenXP Projekt) | | | |http://www.openxp.com (English) | | | |http://www.openxp.de (German) | | | |CrossPoint (XP2 Team) | FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 21 18 Feb 2002 | | |http://www.xp2.de | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |WinPoint95 |P |http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |The OpenXP CrossPoint |P |http://www.happyarts.de/xp | |Projekt | | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |Terminate Terminal |P |http://www.terminate.com | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| |PPoint-FTS compatible |P |http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm | |E-Mail System | | | |-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------| \====================================================================/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 22 18 Feb 2002 ================================================================= FIDONET BY INTERNET ================================================================= . -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- . | FIDONET-RELATED SITES | ` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- ' 2/6/02 Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to 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FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 24 18 Feb 2002 167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c 167/166 | Jesse Dooling | POP? UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c 218/109 | Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c 220/10 | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c 229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c 229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? | 229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c 249/116 | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE |ADSL,60 | n/c 250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c 250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c 261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c 275/311 | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK,NWS|T1|n/c 280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo. 297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c 323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c 360/5 | Bennie Hutto | FTP VMoT | aDSL | n/c 395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | CABLE | n/c 379/1 | Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c 379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c 393/9005 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP TX UUE VMoT| ??? | n/c 395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkP VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c 396/45 | Marc Lewis |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL | n/c 396/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c 2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c 2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c 2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c 2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo 2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c 3613/1275 | @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c 3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c 3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c 3830/10 | Matt Bedynek |FTP, BinkD | OC3 n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 2 | 20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c 22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c 28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c 37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c 47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c 201/505 | Goran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c 203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c 211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BinkP | 8/2mb | n/c 221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c 236/205 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c 240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c 252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c 255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c 263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 25 18 Feb 2002 280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c 280/1601 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c 280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c 280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c 292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k | n/c 292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | n/c 292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c 292/907 | Bart Verhaeghe | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K | n/c 292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c 301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c 332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c 333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c 335/534 | Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c 335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c 341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | | 341/66 | Angel Ripoll | VMoT | | 343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT | | 344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c 346/3 | Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c 347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | | 348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | | 382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 400/558 | Vlad Hrusca | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c 406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c 423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c 461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c 465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c 469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c 469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c 550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c 2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c 2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c 2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c 2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c 2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn 2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c 3830/10 | Matt Bedynek | FTP, BinkP | 100Mb | n/c 5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c 5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 26 18 Feb 2002 5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c 5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c 5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 3 633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c 640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c 712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c 774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 4 801/161 | Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c 902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c -------------------------------------------------------------- Zone 6 65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free 653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free 654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free 654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free -- * FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol * VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various) * UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers * BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks * TX = TransX * NFS = Linux Networking * ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer * QWK = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable * NWS = Usenet Networking Capable ---------------------------------------------- Fidonet oriented news servers news.fidotel.com news.osirusoft.com news.tardis.net Fidonet oriented chat rooms. room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted) ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 27 18 Feb 2002 ================================================================= SPECIAL INTEREST ================================================================= Nodelist Stats Input nodelist nodelist.046 size 1136.9kb date 2002-02-15 The nodelist has 10241 nodes in it and a total of 13185 non-comment entries including 6 zones 65 regions 473 hosts 710 hubs admin overhead 1254 ( 12.24 %) and 918 private nodes 365 nodes down 407 nodes on hold off line overhead 1690 ( 16.50 %) Speed summary: >9600 = 942 ( 9.20 %) 9600 = 8748 ( 85.42 %) (HST = 185 or 2.11 %) (CSP = 1 or 0.01 %) (PEP = 13 or 0.15 %) (MAX = 0 or 0.00 %) (HAY = 2 or 0.02 %) (V32 = 4925 or 56.30 %) (V32B = 545 or 6.23 %) (V42 = 4768 or 54.50 %) (V42B = 576 or 6.58 %) 2400 = 108 ( 1.05 %) 1200 = 5 ( 0.05 %) 300 = 438 ( 4.28 %) ISDN = 1101 ( 10.75 %) ---------------------------------------------------------- File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems ---------------------------------------------------------- XA Frontdoor <1.99b 3783 Frontdoor 2.02+ Dutchie 2.90c Binkleyterm >2.1 D'Bridge <1.3 TIMS Xenia -------------------------------------- XB Binkleyterm 2.0 9 FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 28 18 Feb 2002 Dutchie 2.90b -------------------------------------- XC Opus 1.1 10 -------------------------------------- XP Seadog 6 -------------------------------------- XR Opus 1.03 68 -------------------------------------- XW Fido >12M 401 Tabby -------------------------------------- XX D'Bridge 1.30 4520 Frontdoor 1.99b Intermail 2.01 Tmail -------------------------------------- None QMM 1444 -------------------------------------- CrashMail capable = 3407 ( 33.27 %) MailOnly nodes = 5485 ( 53.56 %) Listed-only nodes = 789 ( 7.70 %) Other = 560 ( 5.47 %) [Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100] [ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208] ----------------------------------------------------------------- FIDONEWS 19-07 Page 29 18 Feb 2002 ================================================================= FIDONEWS INFORMATION ================================================================= How to Submit an Article If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here are some guidelines, if you send it as an attached file; the preferred method if you want reasonable control over how the published article will appear in the Fidonews: a) Plain ASCII text. 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