Article 12924 of alt.drugs: Newsgroups: alt.drugs Path: panix!cmcl2!psinntp!psinntp!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!convex!cavasin From: cavasin@convex.com (Vince Cavasin) Subject: addresses Message-ID: Summary: a list of addresses for mail order botanical joints Keywords: mg seeds woodrose ethnobotanicals natural highs herbs Sender: usenet@convex.com (news access account) Nntp-Posting-Host: muse.convex.com Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA Distribution: alt Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1991 15:28:21 GMT Lines: 303 Once again, here's my address file. There have been a few additions since last time I posted it which I haven't bothered to format similarly to the original list; you'll figure it out. ========================================================================== Okay, I've been getting some mail asking for addresses lately, so I guess it's time to post this file again. I've added some comments which I hope will be helpful. A few things: 1. the places listed below are legitamate businesses. Their primary purpose for being (well their stated purpose anyway) is NOT to supply heads with stuff that will get them high. Do NOT call or write these places acting like you plan on using anything they carry for illicit purposes. 2. I have provided comments on the places that I have personal experience with. If you have experience with any of these places, please post or email me with your impression of their service, product, etc. If you know of any mail order places that carry neat stuff and aren't listed here, PLEASE let me know about them somehow. And if you find that I've made a mistake in any of the addresses/phone numbers/information presented below, please let me know. 3. If you have questions about any of the substances or companies mentioned here, please POST them if at all possible. If you can't post, email me and I'll either try to answer or post it anonymously for you. 4. You can get catalogs from most of these places by calling or writing. If no price is listed for a catalog, it means I'm not sure if the place charges for one or not. I usually send a buck when I write for a catalog just to avoid the hassle of having them write me back saying "we're sorry, but you must include 50 cents when requesting a catalog...." Catalogs from these places can range from really informative, well-done booklets to 1 sheet order forms. 5. abbreviations: HBWR: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds; one ounce of HBWR contains about 100 seeds. HLWR: Hawaiian Large Woodrose seeds. MG: Morning Glory seeds. cheers, vince ============================================================================ ... of the jungle P.O. Box 1801 Sebastopol, CA 95473 (707) ???-???? Carries: seeds, plants, and prepared herbs too numerous to mention. Comments: Very well done catalog; extremely informative. ...of the jungle probably carries a wider variety of nifty botanicals than any other mail order place. Prices are pretty good; service pretty good. HBWR: 100/$10 -------------------------------- Island Spore Co. P.O. box 8055 Honolulu, Hawaii 96830 Carries: HBWR, HLWR, Betel Nuts, Kava Kava, Imported Poppy Seeds (species not specified), Sensitive plant seeds. Comments: Took about a month to get their ONE PAGE order sheet in the mail. Extremely pricey compared to other vendors. If anyone has any experience with this place, please post or email cavasin@convex.com. HBWR: 21/$20, 1oz/$75 (ack!!) HLWR: 15/$20, 1oz/$75 -------------------------------- T.A.E. 1935 S. Plum Grove Rd. Suite #348 Palatine, IL 60067 (708) 255-4982 Carries: HBWR, HLWR, Kava Kava, Broom, Black Morrocan (lettuce opium "incense"), some other stuff. Comments: Highly recommended. Incredibly fast service (orders filled same day they are received; 1 week TOTAL turnaround time for an order placed from TX). Very helpful over the phone. Decent prices. Write or call for Free order sheet/brochure. A tip: don't mess with the "Black Morrocan", it's useless. HBWR: $25/100 seeds -------------------------------- Horus Botanicals HCR 82 Box 29 Salem ARK. 72576 Carries: Tons of nifty shit. Prices/selection are comparable to ...of the jungle. Catalog is big and informative, but not very well put together. Horus carries wormwood, opium poppy seeds, yohimbe and Acorus calamus, all of which are fairly difficult to find. Comments: Service leaves something to be desired (long, long turnaround time). If ...of the jungle don't have it, Horus probably does; you'll just have to wait a little longer to get it. -------------------------------- Magic Garden Herb Co. P.O. Box 332 Fairfax, CA 94930 (415) 488-4331 Carries: HBWR, HLWR, MG, tons of other herbs, most of which are of little or no psychoactive value. Much like a big mail order herb store. Comments: Longest turnaround of any supplier listed here, with the possible exception of Island Spore. Nice selection, good prices. If anyone has any experience with Magic Garden, please post or email cavasin@convex.com. I am told their MG seeds are NOT treated. -------------------------------- New Mexico Cactus Research P.O. Box 787 Belen, N.M. 87002 (505) 864-4027 Carries: Trichocereus Pachanoi cuttings (seasonally); Coryphantha Macromeris cuttings (seasonally); the seeds of many trichocereus species (inculding peruvianus); several species of Lophophora (no guarantee of getting williamsii); datura seeds. Also carries about every variety of cactus extant. Comments: Really great service. Very helpful over the phone. However, PLEASE remember, this place is a LEGITAMATE cactus farm. They are NOT in business for the purpose of supplying heads with mescaline-bearing cacti. If you call or write, make like a cactologist. NMCR's catalog is really a trip. Basically a bunch of poor-quality, varying-size photocopies of hand-typed pages listing species, descriptions and prices, with some pictures taped on here and there. Kind of challenging to find what you're looking for. -------------------------------- Books by Phone Box 522 Berkeley, CA 94701 (800) 858-2665 Carries: Books you can't find anywhere else. Comments: If you can find it someplace else, buy it there. This place is a FUCKING RIP OFF. the copy of Adam Gottlieb's _Legal Highs_ I bought from them (a 70 page paperback) had a sticker that said $7.95 (which is what I paid) covering up the original price of $3.95. Plus they charge extra for personal checks, credit cards, and postage. However, they DO carry some really hard to find titles, and the service is pretty good; about 2 week turnaround time on a phoned-in credit card order. Catalog is pretty good too. If you can't find it in their catalog, call and ask and they might be able to get it for you (you may have to take out a second mortgage to be able to afford it, but...). -------------------------------- Loompanics P.O. Box 1197 Port Townsend, WA 98368 $2.00 catalog Carries: Interesting books. Comments: No experience whatsoever with them. If anyone has dealed with Loompanics, PLEASE post or email cavasin@convex.com and tell me about it. I am told they have fast turnaround and good prices. --------------------------------- Gardens of the Blue Ridge P.O. Box 10 Pineola, NC 28662 (704) 733-2417 Carries: Acorus calamus is the only psychoactive plant GBR carries that I know of. Comments: GBR is an ultra-legitamate greenhouse specializing in hardy native plants. They sell mostly seeds, seedlings and plants. Since they don't sell dried herbs, leaves, bark, root, or cuttings (like most of the places listed here), they probably are of little interest to those of us that don't want to bother with gardening. Prepared Calamus root can be obtained from both ...of the jungle and Horus. Extremely well done catalog is $2.00. However, don't expect to find any information on alternative uses of the plants they sell in it. ---------------------------------- AMOK P.O. Box 861867 Terminal Annex Los Angeles, CA 90086-1867 similar to loompanics, but many many more titles. the catalog itself is 8.95, but its a big 8x12 400 page book. if its not in loompanics or AMOK, i doubt its available. AMOK's catalog is well worth ordering as a sourcebook and bibliography of the bizarre, but I know of at least one person who's had trouble ordering stuff from them, and they've been listed in Factsheet Five in a "black" list of unreliable vendors. If you can't find it anywhere else and are prepared to wait months, go ahead and order, but you've been warned... If you live in the Los Angeles area, their bookstore is worth visiting. ---------------------------------- Worldwide Curio House p.o. box 17095 minneapolis minn, 55417 mainly a voodoo supply house, but has a large section of "herbs roots barks berries" much more extensive than MGH, and similar in price. they do not carry MG or HBWS, however. i think four or five dollars for three catalogues, which even if you dont want anything but the herbs, are hilarious(one page has fruit shaped refrigerator magnets, the next advertises "genuine human skull. number of teeth may vary. $195.00" ---------------------------------- J.L.F. p.o. box 184-sc elizabethtown, IN 47232 (812)379-2508 haven't dealt with these fellows, but they carry some very odd things.. "30 dried grams red variety amanita muscaria: $60.00" they also sell bufotonin toad skins from road kills and various other thangs, but the fly agaric(amanita muscaria) is their main product.. I must add that this place has the most hysterical disclaimer I've ever read in my life. An excerpt (typo's of indeterminate origin): "The longest disclaimer you've ever seen." All merchandise sold in this brochure is poisonous and not intended for internal consumption. All items are classified as "NON-FOOD". They are not to be eaten or drank. Do not use in any manner unspecified or unauthorized by JLF. JLF assumes no liability for unauthorized uses of its products. For example (for those who exist soley to keep the human aspect of Murphy's Law alive): Do not eat as a food or herbal dietary supplement. Do not drink as a beverage or make tea out of. Do not inject in any form. Do not stick, put, insert or throw in your or another person's mouth, nose, ear, eye, anus or any other orafice that may exist on your or another person's body. Do not wet any dried organic with water and let sit and rot, then smear the black maggot-infested stinky slop on your or another person's body or insert it in any of the orafices previously mentioned. Do not light with fire and use that fire to injure yourself or another or any personal or public property. Do not leave in the middle of the floor and trip or slip on to injure yourself or another. There is not enough room here to list all the possible "do nots". If you still can not keep from harming yourself or others or property with JLF products then you should probably go to bed and stay there for the rest of your life. No, then you would get bed sores and bring suit against the bed or sheet manuacturer, or JLF for telling you to do it.... Call for their brochure; it's free and well worth the laughs. ---------------------------------- Inter Center P.O. Box 362 Hermosa Beach, CA 90254 The company also has clean morning glory seeds avail. X-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-X Another file downloaded from: The NIRVANAnet(tm) Seven & the Temple of the Screaming Electron Taipan Enigma 510/935-5845 Burn This Flag Zardoz 408/363-9766 realitycheck Poindexter Fortran 510/527-1662 Lies Unlimited Mick Freen 801/278-2699 The New Dork Sublime Biffnix 415/864-DORK The Shrine Rif Raf 206/794-6674 Planet Mirth Simon Jester 510/786-6560 "Raw Data for Raw Nerves" X-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-X