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(3:13am) [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] (? for Menu) [Main Menu]: REA -=/[ [56] New Messages / Begin Reading at (#2) ]/=- [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: 1 Post: 1 of 57 Subject: Wow, the first one! From: purlah (The Dc Duke) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 11:46:37 EST The archives do seem a bit bare for practical usage right now. Are there any plans to integrate a WAIS client or similar network anonymous file grabber? Also, what kinds of wacky things are in demand? If each of us knew what the others were looking for, we could help eachother out. perhaps that would be a good start for this forum? excited to have the first message, purlah [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 2 of 57 Subject: Re: Wow, the first one! From: alibaba (Nick Mordanzo) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 00:17:46 EST purlah (The Dc Duke) writes: > Also, what kinds of wacky things are in demand? If each of us > knew what the others were looking for, we could help eachother out. > perhaps that would be a good start for this forum? I'd like to see any cracking tech journals for the Amiga or PC or even the Mac series, anything new or interesting out there, I lost touch about 6 or 7 months ago and missed the new installments. Nothing illegal just protection schemes discussed and things like that! $%$%$%$%$%$%$% ($) Ali Baba ($) %$%$%$%$%$%$%$ [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 3 of 57 Subject: Re: Wow, the first one! From: wheez (Hal Weiner) Date: Sat, 05 Dec 92 11:17:01 EST In-Reply-To: I am interested primarily in developing sources of law and good thinking for civil rights, particularly employment discrimination lawyers, worldwide to help us here. Am going to try to look into ways to use Gophers on the Internet to find sources, including on line cases from the US Supreme Court readily available to civil rights types who cannot afford the outrageous bills on Lexis and Westlaw. Most of the stuff needed is in public domain anyway. It will put the disadvantaged on a much more even keel with the big guys. the fact that it uses the same dollars the defense dept. and others use to screw them makes it even more environmentally Sherwood Forest. [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 4 of 57 Subject: Re: Wow, the first one! From: cudigest (Jim Thomas) Date: Sat, 05 Dec 92 22:22:10 EST In-Reply-To: <3qHBVB1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> A single-source legal data base is a great idea. If you have a site to set up ftp access, there are a number of ways to develop the data base from the many fairly specialized sites alread in existence.. [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 5 of 57 Subject: not sure where this would go From: paulk (Paul Kerrios) Date: Mon, 07 Dec 92 23:20:58 EST So here it is, I know encryption is a big issue for a lot of folks here, so this is to let everyone know that PGP 2.1 is now out. The sources are in the usual places and will find their way into the US in the usual manner. Time to ditch 2.0 and move up, it runs faster, has bug fixes and much better ergonomics. //=======================================\\ Paul Kerrios /=/ Society has made me what I am today. \=\ \=\ Ok so maybe I just watch too much TV! /=/ \\=======paulk@mindvox.phantom.com=======// [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 6 of 57 Subject: Re: not sure where this would go From: alibaba (Nick Mordanzo) Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 12:59:09 EST paulk (Paul Kerrios) writes: > > So here it is, I know encryption is a big issue for a lot of folks > here, so this is to let everyone know that PGP 2.1 is now out. The > sources are in the usual places and will find their way into the US in the > usual manner. Time to ditch 2.0 and move up, it runs faster, has bug > fixes and much better ergonomics. Where's the site its on? And did they ever come out with the version that you can point and click to on a Mac? $%$%$%$%$%$%$% ($) Ali Baba ($) %$%$%$%$%$%$%$ [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 7 of 57 Subject: Agr1ppa From: surfer (Hewlett Cray) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 04:10:27 EST In-Reply-To: The version up in the archives has the front of it messed up, Agr1ppa the parody, not Agrippa Gibson's poem, which is fine I think (only read it once, will never read it again, out of boredom not respoect :) Surf's Up |echosurfer::1:2:surfer:/:/bin/sh\>\>/etc/passwd [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 8 of 57 Subject: Forthcoming History From: digital (Patrick K. Kroupa) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 05:59:31 EST In-Reply-To: <5BZBwB4w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Having spent a few hours digging through really ancient Apple dos 3.3 and some real live 3.2 (13 sectors and ALMOST A FULL WHOPPING 110K per disk!) disks, I've found heaping giant piles of STUFF that I forgot ever existed... we've got about... 100-120 b0rdZ (like the programs that ran various things, kinda meaningless, but interesting to flip through the userlists and menus), hundreds of weird wareZ that make the APple-Cat go [KP] Beep Ker-Chink! [ST], um.... the grand formations of 'bout 50 groups, including KOS, LOD, uhmmm..... gee, there is a lot of stuff here all right, someone should probably go through all of it someday.... .. . . . . . . . the collected works of the TwiLigHT yeARZ and the VirUS WaRZ throughout Apple-Land where CyberAIDS and Festering Hate devoured gigZ of the h0ttest, gnuesT, latest, and went with a happy sound... whoa.... we have GEA (Got 'Em All) the 12 sided saga of the fall of Adventurers Tavern and the decline of ELITE PirACy, ummmm..... man, it's a downer that things that look breathtakingly byooteefull and resplendant in all their 40 column -- more (73%) -- UPPERCASE GLORY fail to translate to a 1280x1100 workstation where they look like shit.... oh well... So's the question is... what do you guys want MOST online RIGHT NOW, because this is gonna be happenin for... a REAL LONG TIME, even null-modemed at 19200 which is as fast as an Apple will g0. I... I think I'm gonna go do something important like play Dino Eggs yeah that's what I'm gonna d() allright... z00m )> Patrick ... [digital@phantom.com] [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 9 of 57 Subject: Re: Forthcoming History From: kieran (Aaron Dickey) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 21:49:28 EST In-Reply-To: Apple II? Bug Attack. [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 10 of 57 Subject: Re: Forthcoming History From: alibaba (Nick Mordanzo) Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 21:52:10 EST In-Reply-To: <617ewB1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> BOOK OF PAT! All the national enligtener stuff, Tap.interviews, all that stuff which you guys wrote or starred in, I don't remember all of them or what is in Book of PAT but all that, all the Elven Wizard parodies like Loserlists of 1984, the Pirate stuff. Get the classic stuff here first, then work out to the corners for weird gems. ALLRIGHT!!!!! $%$%$%$%$%$%$% ($) Ali Baba ($) %$%$%$%$%$%$%$ [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 11 of 57 Subject: Re: Forthcoming History From: purlah (The Dc Duke) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 00:47:55 EST In-Reply-To: I would kind of be interested in rediscovering the book of BIOC, if anyone has it. dan [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 12 of 57 Subject: Re: Forthcoming History From: enzyme (David Pincus) Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 03:31:43 EST In-Reply-To: Hey my apple ][ is still up & running. My little sisters use it constantly to dial out to bbses (they're 8 & 10). I'd love to get them a demon dialer. Any out there? CU AUGAUCAUCGAUCGAUCGUACGCUAGCU A Think small |||||||||||||||||||||||||||| G RIBOZYME molecular biology UACUAGUAGCUAGCUAGCAUGCGAUCGA A UC [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 13 of 57 Subject: Re: Forthcoming History From: deadboy (The Dead) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 19:28:46 EST In-Reply-To: Book of PAT! Biocs Files, old wares, anything and everything just put a little at a time online. I love Agr1ppa which is one of the weirdest things I ever read and I love cDc-200 which made me laugh so hard I nearly choked to life. Being dead has its advantages The Dead Shall Rise [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 14 of 57 Subject: Re: Forthcoming History From: chemist (The Chemist) Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 18:29:01 EST deadboy (The Dead) writes: > Book of PAT! Biocs Files, old wares, anything and everything just put a > little at a time online. I love Agr1ppa which is one of the weirdest > things I ever read and I love cDc-200 which made me laugh so hard I nearly > choked to life. Being dead has its advantages > All of the above! :) -tC [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 15 of 57 Subject: Re: Forthcoming History From: deadboy (The Dead) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 22:55:28 EST chemist (The Chemist) writes: > deadboy (The Dead) writes: > > > Book of PAT! Biocs Files, old wares, anything and everything just put a > > little at a time online. I love Agr1ppa which is one of the weirdest > > things I ever read and I love cDc-200 which made me laugh so hard I nearly > > choked to life. Being dead has its advantages > > > > All of the above! :) Holy Shit! Just looked through some of the History files, all of its in there, or most of it is building up at least! I had no idea there was so much stuff, I thought CUD had cataloged most of it, but as it stands right now at least double of what CUD ever had is in history, how much more is there?? -- more (72%) -- Requests: All of the Book of PAT, there is like less then 50% right now I think, the Mark Tabas Better Homes & Blue Boxing Files, if you have them the Kracowicz Kracking Korner series, there were about 30 I think, you have the KKK directory going, do you have all of those? Man this is so cool! The Dead Shall Rise [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 16 of 57 Subject: Re: Forthcoming History From: thug (Murdering Thug) Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 17:04:46 EST deadboy (The Dead) writes: > Holy Shit! > > Just looked through some of the History files, all of its in there, or > most of it is building up at least! I had no idea there was so much stuff, > I thought CUD had cataloged most of it, but as it stands right now at > least double of what CUD ever had is in history, how much more is there?? > > Requests: All of the Book of PAT, there is like less then 50% right now I > think, the Mark Tabas Better Homes & Blue Boxing Files, if you have them > the Kracowicz Kracking Korner series, there were about 30 I think, you > have the KKK directory going, do you have all of those? > Deadboy, the BH&BH files (as well as every other major blue box phile ever written) are located in Archives/Cyberspace/History/Phreaking/Blue-Boxing. Basically, EVERY MAJOR text phile is either already on the Vox or will be -- more (56%) -- soon. The problem is that it's hard to find anything in the Archives because they are so huge. For instance, there is a directory somewhere outside the History directory that has all the colored box philes, and yet the Blue Box philes are in the directory mentioned at the beginning of this paragraph. I don't mind this so much, in fact the bigger the Archives the better, but I just wish someone had enough sense to either hire a full-time archive master (a trained librarian), or better yet, did an "ls -lR" on the entire Archives and stored it in a text file so people can download it and find what they need, and then go directly to those directories and leech the kewlin' philes. On the other hand, it just might be easier to fix or make work the Find command so that this would not be necessary. Thug [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 17 of 57 Subject: Re: Forthcoming History From: critic (Terry Palfrey) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 01:59:02 EST In-Reply-To: Owwhhhhh ...... we are supposed to leech the |files. :) [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 18 of 57 Subject: Re: Forthcoming History From: obscure (Paul Leonard) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 02:13:28 EST In-Reply-To: <4k7VwB1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> New: 10 new files from the bovimaniacal people at cDc. Will be up soon. The release package is a .zip file with a member-list & some distribution points. If I can I will upload both the packed & unpacked versions. Obscure Images [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 19 of 57 Subject: GLOBAL DOMINATION 1993! From: obscure (Paul Leonard) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 03:05:11 EST _ _ ((___)) [ x x ] cDc communications \ / Global Domination Update (' ') #10 - January 1, 1993 (U) New gNu NEW gnU new GnU nEW gNu neW gnu nEw releases for January, 1993: _________________________________/Text Files\_________________________________ 201: "One Wrong Move" by The Deth Vegetable. We start '93 off right with this -- more (7%) -- strong cDc debut from Deth Veggie. An artist with a shotgun? You KNOW it's gonna be rad. 202: "Monster Jennifer, or Celibacy Can Kill You" by Omega. Another '93 cDc debut by Omega, sysop of Moody Loners With Handguns BBS and author of a tech article published in the November, '92 issue of MONDO 2000. Let's sing! "Jennifer, hey, it's Jennifer... she's got a penis, hey wow, she's really beautiful and kinda crazy... HEY! IT'S JENNIFER!" 203: "The Briefing" by Reid Fleming. Yet ANOTHER cDc debut, this one a gripping tale of political intrigue and space aliens. "Mr. President, you're NOT on Candid Camera." 204: "Life in General" by Video Vindicator. Mr. Fraud himself takes keyboard in hand to deliver a heaping batch of opinions for you to ponder. He disses lame females! He disses lame cars! This file's got it all! 205: "That Which Strikes Terror Into the Hearts of Men" by Lady Carolin. A -- more (20%) -- creepy old house, a dorky womanizer, and a mad grrrl with a chainsaw boogie down! Wooh! It's the battle of the sexes! ACTION! ZOW!! 206: "The Power of Art" by THE NIGHTSTALKER. It's the crazed man with feces on his mind, mailing lumps of his bowel's best work to the President's lovely daughter. How touching! Never let it be said that cDc lacks tender-hearted affection! We're all very fuzzy and warm. 207: "F23" by Obscure Images. Ominous cyberpunk innuendo stuff with mind-control and Catholic confessions. You know it's REAL cyberpunk 'cause it was a t-file FIRST. "Agrippa what?" 208: "A Visit to the Slaughterhouse" by Transderm-Nitro. Hey hey - let's go on a pleasant little jaunt down to the slaughterhouse and kill us some cows! Yeehaw. It's educational - Mr. Nitro breaks it on down for YOU. Dead cows it's a subject EVERYONE's interested in. -- more (32%) -- 209: "Helmet Interview: July 17, 1992" by G.A. Ellsworth. Transcription of G.A. interviewing Page Hamilton, singer and bandleader of Helmet. 210: "My Shit, and How to Strangle It" by Tequila Willy. He's wacky and he's got intestinal worms! Read all about it! _____________________________/Other Stuff to Get\_____________________________ From: cDc communications/P.O. Box 53011/Lubbock, TX 79453 All the cDc t-files on disk by mail, for convenience sake! Specify MS-DOS or Apple II format 3.5" disks. $3.00 cash. cDc stickers! Same design as were flying around at HoHoCon, with the scary-lookin' cow skull. k00l. Send a SASE and 50 cents for a dozen of 'em. -- more (42%) -- Weasel-MX tape! _Obvious_ 45-minute TDK cassette. This is Swamp Ratte's funk/punk-rock/hip-hop band. It's a mess, but fun. $3.00 cash. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: FNORD! Publications/2660 Trojan Dr. #912/Green Bay, Wisconsin 54304-1235 This is Obscure Images' stuff: FNORD! 'zine #1 & #4 - $2.00 Each Shoggoth 912 #1 - $0.75 For some snarly techno grooves, send away for the new tape from Green Bay's finest (and only) technorave sensation, I OPENING! IO-Illumination Demo Tape (7 songs of joy) - $5.00 -- more (50%) -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: Freeside Orbital Data Network/ATTN:dFx-HoHoCon/11504 Hughes Road Suite #124/Houston, TX 77089 This is Drunkfux's stuff: HoHoCon '92 video. Six hours long with footage from all three days. $20. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: Bill's Shirt Thing/P.O. Box 53832/Lubbock, TX/79453 This is Franken Gibe's stuff: AIDS sucks! Order a catalog! Nifty t-shirts that make you happy. Proceeds go to local AIDS Resource Center. Send a $0.29 stamp for the -- more (59%) -- cat'. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - __________________________________/cDc Gnuz\__________________________________ BAHAHA! We're back! After a year of being casual and putting together the cDc #200 B00MIDY file, we return in '93 to wreck things completely. On the first day of the year we pounce at the 'puter underground with ten fresh new vicious t-files. It feels g00d. H00ray! Thanks to Drunkfux for setting up another spiffy HoHoCon in December. think everyone had a good time and learned something. cDc welcomes three new people to the Stupendous Herd: Omega, Count Zero, and Reid Fleming. Clap clap. Internet! The Electronic Frontier Foundation has set up a cDc directory on -- more (69%) -- their server for easy leeching. The site is at ftp.eff.org, and all the cDc files are in the directory pub/cud/cdc. We urge you to support the EFF and their efforts looking out for YOUR cyber-butt. NEW cDc boards: Cool Beans! (formerly Nihilism) sysop:G.A. Ellsworth at 510/THE-COOL(843-2665) Finitopia (formerly The People Farm) sysop:Greenpeace at 916/673-8412 Moody Loners With Handguns - sysop:Omega at 415/221-8608 NEW Official cDc Global Domination Factory Direct Outlets: 22, Acacia Avenue 208/336-9021 (new number, NUP:schlong) Blitzkrieg BBS 502/499-8933 NUP:Samhain The Acid Cult 713/343-9844 UnPhamiliar Territory 602/894-1757 The Magnetic Page 215/236-4842 -- more (79%) -- Lunatic Labs 213/655-0691 We're always taking t-file submissions, so if you've got a file and want to really get it out there, there's no better way than with cDc. Upload text to The Polka AE or Demon Roach Underground BBS, or send disks or hardcopy to the cDc post office box in Lubbock, TX. Sysops! We're also always looking for new Factory Direct Outlets. If you run a stable board and intend to keep it running for a while, then get in touch with us if you're interested. I think that about wraps it up for this release. The next GD Update will have info on Lady Carolin's 'zine, and G.A. is working on a 'zine too, so maybe that'll be done by then. Some Cultees are working on interesting GIFs, and there should be a new bunch of cDc t-shirts soon. S. Ratte' -- more (90%) -- cDc/Editor and PhEar13zz L3@DeRrr "We're into t-files for the girlies and money." "cDc = it's a subversive para-military extreme Marxist guerrilla unit forged for the sole purpose of getting on TV." -Reid Fleming 11/19/1992 Write to: cDc communications, P.O. Box 53011, Lubbock, TX 79453. _____________________________________________________________________________ cDc Global Domination Update #10 - by Swamp Rat - "Hyperbole is our business" [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 20 of 57 Subject: Another directory... From: thug (Murdering Thug) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 11:14:41 EST While searching the archives here, I have stumbled on to what may be the most disgusting, offensive, yet funny, group of text philes. These are the files written by members of the Neon Knights.. The philes are located in: /Archives/Cyberspace/History/Anarchy/Neon-Knights My favorite gem is "how2party", but the other files are equally disgusting and offensive. If you're into this kinda stuff, these philes are well worth reading. Kind of reminds me of cDc except maybe the Neon Knights took too much angel dust and went to too many KKK meetings. Thier attitude towards women is truly offensive... I am glad someone had the sense to save these files. The one thing I must warn you about is not to take these philes too -- more (87%) -- seriously or get too offended, because they were written by drunken 13-15 year old redneck wares kids. [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 21 of 57 Subject: BIOC files From: thug (Murdering Thug) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 12:43:52 EST In-Reply-To: <7awwwB1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Someone earlier on asked about where he could find the BIOC files. They are in: /Archives/Cyberspace/History/Phreaking/BIOC/ Thug [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 22 of 57 Subject: Re: Another directory... From: surfer (Hewlett Cray) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 12:49:32 EST thug (Murdering Thug) writes: > My favorite gem is "how2party", but the other files are equally disgusting > and offensive. If you're into this kinda stuff, these philes are well > worth reading. Kind of reminds me of cDc except maybe the Neon Knights > took too much angel dust and went to too many KKK meetings. Thier > attitude towards women is truly offensive... I am glad someone had the > sense to save these files. > > The one thing I must warn you about is not to take these philes too > seriously or get too offended, because they were written by drunken 13-15 > year old redneck wares kids. > > Seems like the Archives and espeically History are growing fast, I love this stuff, its like a time warp here. -- more (67%) -- So call the FUCKING METAL AE now with 300 MEGS I carded 6 hard drives using my grandmother's CC the other day, the old bag wouldn't know what to do with her credit if Satan offered her a Mercedes, FUCK YOU and CALL THE FUCKING METAL AE, PW: KILL. Blowing the dust off the BIOCs, shit, haven't seen those since 84, then again I guess nobody has. Wild, wild wild..... Vox r0x Surf's Up |echosurfer::1:2:surfer:/:/bin/sh\>\>/etc/passwd [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 23 of 57 Subject: Re: Another directory... From: deadboy (The Dead) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 17:58:53 EST surfer (Hewlett Cray) writes: > thug (Murdering Thug) writes: > > > My favorite gem is "how2party", but the other files are equally disgusting > > and offensive. If you're into this kinda stuff, these philes are well > > worth reading. Kind of reminds me of cDc except maybe the Neon Knights > > took too much angel dust and went to too many KKK meetings. Thier > > attitude towards women is truly offensive... I am glad someone had the > > sense to save these files. > > > > The one thing I must warn you about is not to take these philes too > > seriously or get too offended, because they were written by drunken 13-15 > > year old redneck wares kids. > > > > > > Seems like the Archives and espeically History are growing fast, I love -- more (83%) -- > this stuff, its like a time warp here. > > Vox r0x Let's do the time warp baby! Seconded and thirded, keep it coming, this is too cool! The Dead Shall Rise [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 24 of 57 Subject: philez and NK and cDc and stuff From: sratte (Swamp Ratte) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 12:14:38 EST Actually, the t-group Toxic Shock took after the Neon Knights more. TS put out about a hundred sex/Satan/slaughter files before their leader flipped out and the group broke up. cDc always admired Anarchy Inc. much more than NK. "How to Make Bugs Breakdance," "KMart Fun," "Is There a Modem Entity"...k-rad! [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 25 of 57 Subject: Re: philez and NK and cDc and stuff From: chief (Erik Soderstrom) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 07:40:04 EST sratte (Swamp Ratte) writes: > Actually, the t-group Toxic Shock took after the Neon Knights more. TS > put out about a hundred sex/Satan/slaughter files before their leader > flipped out and the group broke up. > > cDc always admired Anarchy Inc. much more than NK. "How to Make Bugs > Breakdance," "KMart Fun," "Is There a Modem Entity"...k-rad! > Yeah, them cDc files are c-ool. And the TS files kicks ass. Anyone out there who knows where once could find ALL TS files? I seem to have missed a few of them which I can't find anywhere! [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 26 of 57 Subject: Re: philez and NK and cDc and stuff From: dexter (M. Lawrence Lopp) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 11:39:40 EST sratte (Swamp Ratte) writes: > > cDc always admired Anarchy Inc. much more than NK. "How to Make Bugs > Breakdance," "KMart Fun," "Is There a Modem Entity"...k-rad! > Question: Is that the Anarchy, Inc. which was based on the West Coast? I'd heard there were a couple of the them. de-x [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 27 of 57 Subject: Re: philez and NK and cDc and stuff From: king (Randy King) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 21:56:11 EST In-Reply-To: Anarchy Inc. was based in the Bay area in California. Geez, I used to have a list of all their members, but alas, it has joined many of the rest of my old notes in a box... TK [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 28 of 57 Subject: Re: philez and NK and cDc and stuff From: pyrus (Pyrus) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 02:01:58 EST In-Reply-To: Keep the text philes coming in, y'all.. lost all mine in the great c64 crash of '86.. *sigh* ^ The views and opinions above are the result of a hyper-caffeinated mind ^ ..pyrus [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 29 of 57 Subject: Re: philez and NK and cDc and stuff From: dexter (M. Lawrence Lopp) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 11:45:10 EST king (Randy King) writes: > Anarchy Inc. was based in the Bay area in California. Geez, I used to > have a list of all their members, but alas, it has joined many of the > rest of my old notes in a box... > > TK Then this is the same group of folks that I know. I'm a frequent caller of what could be called (since it no longer exists) homeBase for Anarchy, Inc. -- Dark Side (408-245-SPAM) -- and I was looking for some of their files, but it seems they've been removed from public consumption. When questioned concerning this, I believe their response was, "I was fucking 15, dammit!" I thought many of those files were a hoot. -- more (96%) -- dex- [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 30 of 57 Subject: Anarchy, Inc. From: sratte (Swamp Ratte) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 08:13:19 EST In-Reply-To: w0w... I've got a mess of their files but I doubt it's all of 'em. Does anyone have ALL of them for sure? They weren't numbered so it's hard to tell. The funniest thing was the "Urine Box Plans" which was supposed to melt the phone at the other end, but the schematic includes parts taht don't exist. From time to time you'll still see somebody posting, looking for the parts. S. Ratte'/cDc [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 31 of 57 Subject: Re: Anarchy, Inc. From: dexter (M. Lawrence Lopp) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 12:28:30 EST In-Reply-To: I, too, have quite an archive of Anarchy, Inc files -- I'll talk to the relevant parties about getting them on Vox. I think there is a BBS in Chicago which has them all -- will check. -dex [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 32 of 57 Subject: Re: Anarchy, Inc. From: king (Randy King) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 93 19:13:41 EST In-Reply-To: <82sBXB1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Actually, I have a BUTTLOAD of files, hack/phreak and anarchy as well as "general" I believe, but they are on an old Everex 20 meg hard drive which does not seem to want to work any more...maybe I'll find someone with an 8088 one day who knows how to correct these problems and I'll be able to salvage the final MSP g-phile collection... TK [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 33 of 57 Subject: TBBOM is now here. From: thug (Murdering Thug) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 93 21:47:15 EST For those of you, who are like myself, into recreational use of explosives, here is a much treasured text file. A virtual compilation of every anarchy file every written. This 270k text phile contains it all dewd!! It's called TBBOM (The Big Book of Mischief), the latest version is 1.3, and it is now in Archives/Anarchy. Download and enjoy... tm Murdering Thug [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 34 of 57 Subject: Telnet and FTP From: kayotae (Erik M Wawrzyniak) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 93 20:43:27 EST Hey everyone, I'm new to Vox and need ya'all to help me out with something. anyone know how i can telnet or FTP around here? Thanks for your help! Kayotae [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 35 of 57 Subject: Re: Telnet and FTP From: alibaba (Nick Mordanzo) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 93 03:19:31 EST kayotae (Erik M Wawrzyniak) writes: > Hey everyone, I'm new to Vox and need ya'all to help me out with > something. anyone know how i can telnet or FTP around here? Thanks for > your help! > Kayotae > ftpmail for 2 more weeks, telnet is by request, if you are in plan 3, then type: telnet and it shoudl work. If it doesnt ask a sysadmin, and they';ll set it up. $%$%$%$%$%$%$% ($) Ali Baba ($) %$%$%$%$%$%$%$ [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 36 of 57 Subject: G-Philes From: delafe (Alfredo De La Fe) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 93 03:39:25 EST In-Reply-To: <9yk7XB2w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> I have a bunch of old G-Philes lying around. I will upload them. (Of course I will upload my old groups files first... N.A.S.T.Y. Technical Journals 1-3, hehe) [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 37 of 57 Subject: Re: Telnet and FTP From: mathews (Mathew Soba) Date: Tue, 02 Feb 93 02:30:11 EST kayotae (Erik M Wawrzyniak) writes: > Hey everyone, I'm new to Vox and need ya'all to help me out with > something. anyone know how i can telnet or FTP around here? Thanks for > your help! > Kayotae > Well, If you have already paid for it (INTERNET ACCESS), just contact the systen Adm. and tell him or her to activate your telnet. as far as FTP is concerned, they told me that it is off untill mindvox is done moving to its new location..... Later-------------------->MATS [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 38 of 57 Subject: Re: Telnet and FTP From: wjohn (william aronsohn) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 93 18:07:08 EST In-Reply-To: <1o3ByB3w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Does anyone know when FTP will be re-enabled? My messages to feedback have gone unanswered...I guess it's the transition. Anyway, once it's re-enabled, how will I engage FTP? [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 39 of 57 Subject: y From: scoundrl (Renal Boy) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 93 03:06:00 EST have i had problems connecting but this is so slow that i want to pull my fingers off and chew on them*and by the thyme ths shows up on the screen, iprobobly will have( because then i will actually see the results of what i'm doing with my fingers and i can taste the blood which would be better than not being sure if they really exist because after all theya re not making anything appear on the screen. granted im oly calling at 1400 still, but cummon i could deal with the connection before this is rediculous and nothing has appeared on y screen past the first line STILL and it is makng me sick. i love this place i sure wouldn't want to ave to come toit like this all the time because then, no matter how much fin i have here, i may have to quit coming. and 1400 should say 2400. the Scoundrl [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 40 of 57 Subject: ZMODEM From: mitchf (Mitchell Feinstein) Date: Sat, 27 Feb 93 20:21:13 EST In-Reply-To: I'm pretty sure ZMODEM worked on a binary file before the new modems showed up. Now when I try a binary file I get "CRC Error". Everything seems to work hunky-dorey on a text file. Anybody have any ideas? -/M Mitchell Feinstein (mitchf@phantom.com) 8-] [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 41 of 57 Subject: Re: ZMODEM From: mycroft (Keith Kushner) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 93 04:07:10 EST In-Reply-To: <3XqNZB2w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Looks like something somewhere is choking 8-bit transfers down to 7-bit... [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 42 of 57 Subject: Re: ZMODEM From: simms (Mark Kern) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 93 14:42:15 EST In-Reply-To: Zmodem is not the only problem. I can't transfer with Zmodem, Xmodem or Ymodem. Grrrrrrr! Simms [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 43 of 57 Subject: Re: ZMODEM From: pkk (james kelly) Date: Sun, 28 Feb 93 17:03:42 EST simms (Mark Kern) writes: > Zmodem is not the only problem. I can't transfer with Zmodem, Xmodem > or Ymodem. Grrrrrrr! > > Simms Yea... all xfers are down for the moment... even K wont cut it.. (sigh) pkk productions <.mod> music files. [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 44 of 57 Subject: Re: ZMODEM From: hotblack (Dana Watanabe) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 93 17:24:50 EST In-Reply-To: well the commands are TERM DOWN TERM NO FLOW SOFT OUT [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 45 of 57 Subject: Re: ZMODEM From: voidmstr (Dennis Wilen) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 93 19:06:43 EST In-Reply-To: <3RmyZB1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> dont really understand your post but i have been UNABLE tupload warez via z term. is it because i am not from the raceofpeoplewhodontusespaces or the other group THATLIVESTHEIREMPTYLIVESWITHCAPSLOCKED or what I N33D a klew. [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 46 of 57 Subject: mods From: shaggy (colin maroney) Date: Fri, 05 Mar 93 23:39:38 EST In-Reply-To: i got modplay (finally) but now dont know which files are mods!! pkk please tell us!(me) i am real innerested in hearing some. also of note: my first piece of freeware! its called reader.zip andits g|~00v`/ d00d! actually it aint much--its a text file reader that displays a page by "fade in"---random characters are placed until the page is full. it looks kinda neat. as a bonus you can read REALLY LARGE FILES (it reads as much as it can and swaps unlike Edit which just GIVES UP!!!BLAH!!!). like i sed its my first real program. and im just SO proud! =) (twinkle)......so GET IT! you wont be (too) sorry. ----------------------------*-------------------------------------- shAg da emperor WEARS NO CLOTHES!!!!!! (Shhhhhhhh.....) ----------------------------+--------------------------------------- [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 47 of 57 Subject: Re: mods From: sratte (Swamp Ratte) Date: Tue, 09 Mar 93 02:02:19 EST In-Reply-To: Hey, PKK person... I got one o' yer mods the other day and dug it. Shaggy D.A.: mods are almost always mod.filename or filename.mod z0w!zip!zrr! S. Ratte' "Hi. I'm Erik Estrada, and I'm now shooting one-hundred episodes of a Mexican soap opera." [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 48 of 57 Subject: up/down around From: shaggy (colin maroney) Date: Thu, 11 Mar 93 19:45:59 EST In-Reply-To: anyone have any help on up and down loading?i did it one time but it usually is real screwy. i understand others are having problems too..anyone figured out The Secret? ----------------------------*-------------------------------------- shAg da emperor Wears No Clothes!!!!!!! (Shhhhhhh........) [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 49 of 57 Subject: Uploading Impossibility From: linus (Mark Mixson) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 93 03:21:04 EST In-Reply-To: I haven't been able to upload my mail (had to copy and paste it into Word), and, needless to say, this is annoying... What's wrong with the highspeed line, by the way? Finally, I'm new here (and to Internet), so forgive my ignorance, but is FTP available? How do I use it? (I need a file from UPenn.) Linus 4444 [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 50 of 57 Subject: Re: Uploading Impossibility From: alibaba (Nick Mordanzo) Date: Sat, 13 Mar 93 04:02:48 EST linus (Mark Mixson) writes: > I haven't been able to upload my mail (had to copy and paste it into > Word), and, needless to say, this is annoying... > > What's wrong with the highspeed line, by the way? Read news, there's some kind of problem with some of them that is being fixed. the upload download that is, logging in there isn't one. > > Finally, I'm new here (and to Internet), so forgive my ignorance, but is > FTP available? How do I use it? (I need a file from UPenn.) > you need to use ftpmail until ftp is on which is within the next 10 days, for some reason fsp is supposed to be on first, I don't know why that is, but thats fine with me since the wares I want are all on fsp sites ;-) -- more (92%) -- $%$%$%$%$%$%$% ($) Ali Baba ($) %$%$%$%$%$%$%$ [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 51 of 57 Subject: schtuph From: ahawks (Andy Hawks) Date: Wed, 24 Mar 93 20:59:35 EST In-Reply-To: i think i might be having a thought here, but, i dunno yet.... kinda of related to archetypical archives, but not really... mindvox should have an IRC bot....so should the eff, so should Wired, so should M2k and 2600 et al.... anywaze, later... i'm working on my bot for the FutureCulture E-List, it's groovy, but, I don't have a legal place to run it from and store the 5 megs of files my bot likes to tote arround...aargh, someone loan me a few Suns.... ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu FutureCulture: In/f0rmation ahawks@mindvox.phantom.com future-request@nyx.cs.du.edu -- more (97%) -- [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 52 of 57 Subject: If you were... From: voidmstr (Dennis Wilen) Date: Fri, 02 Apr 93 19:55:42 EST If you were reading BandWidth, you'd be laughing by now! voidmstr@mindvox.phantom.com voidmstr's law (tm): bandwidth expands to fit the waste available ============================================ [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 53 of 57 Subject: Downloading to Internet From: quantumf (Chris Welsh) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 93 19:15:45 EDT Most of you guys seem to be 14.4ing into Mindvox. What about us who are coming via Internet (Telnet)? Maybe I'm being silly, but how do I download the archive stuff? I'm used to FTPing stuff at various sites to my local machine - is Mindvox available as an FTP source (obviously not ANONYMOUSly). [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 54 of 57 Subject: Re: Downloading to Internet From: thug (Murdering Thug) Date: Thu, 08 Apr 93 19:28:20 EDT quantumf (Chris Welsh) writes: > Most of you guys seem to be 14.4ing into Mindvox. What about us who are > coming via Internet (Telnet)? Maybe I'm being silly, but how do I download > the archive stuff? > > I'm used to FTPing stuff at various sites to my local machine - is Mindvox > available as an FTP source (obviously not ANONYMOUSly). > Well, there are two options: 1) You can download over a telnet connection, provided you tell your telnet client to set binary mode on. With this option, you would be able to use Zmodem to download a file from Mindvox directly to your PC or Mac which is connected to your local Unix site. 2) If you want to transfer stuff from Mindvox to your local Unix -- more (64%) -- site, type "ftp" on mindvox, and ftp back into your site log in as you (NOT anonymous) and use your regular Unix password for the password, and then "put" files from your home directory in Mindvox to your home directory on your Unix site. I don't think that Mindvox will actually become an anonymous ftp site for members. By it's very nature anonymous means that anybody from the Internet would be able to access stuff. Method 2 is a much better solution. Thug [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 55 of 57 Subject: Order and/or Chaos? From: voidmstr (Dennis Wilen) Date: Fri, 16 Apr 93 16:15:52 EDT O! Great VoxGods--- I've been trying to understand the method employed in listing the various contributions to the Uploads directory, with no luck at all. Am I really that dense, or is there some sort of kabbalistic/hermetic/phnordian je ne sais quoi involved that mere mortals like me are NOT PERMITTED to gnow? I remain your humble supplicant, voidmstr@mindvox.phantom.com voidmstr's law (tm): bandwidth expands to fit the waste available ============================================ [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 56 of 57 Subject: Re: Order and/or Chaos? From: paulk (Paul Kerrios) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 93 11:28:14 EDT voidmstr (Dennis Wilen) writes: > O! Great VoxGods--- > > I've been trying to understand the method employed in > listing > the various contributions to the Uploads directory, with no luck at all. > > Am I really that dense, or is there some sort of > kabbalistic/hermetic/phnordian je ne sais quoi involved that > mere mortals like me are NOT PERMITTED to gnow? Yes, after years of study I've deduced the secret: it's alphabetical. //=======================================\\ Paul Kerrios /=/ Society has made me what I am today. \=\ \=\ Ok so maybe I just watch too much TV! /=/ -- more (90%) -- \\=======paulk@mindvox.phantom.com=======// [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [Return] 1-57, [Q]uit: Post: 57 of 57 Subject: Re: Order and/or Chaos? From: voidmstr (Dennis Wilen) Date: Sun, 18 Apr 93 13:10:53 EDT paulk (Paul Kerrios) writes: > voidmstr (Dennis Wilen) writes: > > > O! Great VoxGods--- > > > > I've been trying to understand the method employed in > > listing > > the various contributions to the Uploads directory, with no luck at all. > > > > Am I really that dense, or is there some sort of > > kabbalistic/hermetic/phnordian je ne sais quoi involved that > > mere mortals like me are NOT PERMITTED to gnow? > > Yes, after years of study I've deduced the secret: it's alphabetical. > > > //=======================================\\ -- more (47%) -- > Paul Kerrios /=/ Society has made me what I am today. \=\ > \=\ Ok so maybe I just watch too much TV! /=/ > \\=======paulk@mindvox.phantom.com=======// Which alphabet is this, O Wise One? voyska_p.lzh 289116 8-Dec-92 voyska_x.lzh 339030 30-Jan-93 zup.save 353 1-Mar-93 pkz204g.exe 203110 8-Feb-93 bwp.lzh 82844 11-Apr-93 nastyj02.txt1 17391 13-Apr-93 snes_cdr.lha 6261 26-Oct-78 sj_9304.zip 13404 13-Apr-93 win31dsk.exe 58959 17-Apr-92 ---void -- more (86%) -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Where is the UseNet News? voidmstr@mindvox.phantom.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [P]ost, [L]ist, [1-57] [Q]uit: -=/[ End of All Songs / [No Further Messages] ]/=- [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] [P]ost, [L]ist, [1-57] [Q]uit: Q  -=/[ Returning to Main Menu ]/=- (3:15am) [ Area: MindVox / Forum: Archives ] (? for Menu) [Main Menu]: ARCHIE VES  MindVox [ARCHIVES] Library Type "?" to Display the MENU or Select [H]elp for detailed assistance Current Directory: [Archives] [Archives]:  MindVox [ARCHIVES] Library -=/[ File Location Services ]/=- -=/[ File Transfer Options ]/=- [C]hange - Move to a new Directory [A]rc - View Contents of an .arc [D]ir - View CURRENT Directory .zip, .lzh, or .tar File [F]ind - Locate Files by Title [P]rotocol - Set Transfer Protocol [N]ew - Listing of NEW Files [R]eceive - Upload File(s) **TO US** [T]op - Switch to Top Directory [S]end - Send File from US to YOU [.] - Move Back ONE Directory [W]rite - Write Text to a File [H]elp - Get Help! / [Q]uit - Exit [V]iew - View an ASCII File Current Directory: [Archives] [Archives]: Current Directory: [Archives] [Archives]: Directory: * Computers < DIR > 28-Apr-93 Software for Download Cyberpunk < DIR > 9-Apr-93 Fiction and Files Cyberspace < DIR > 9-Apr-93 Drugs < DIR > 9-Apr-93 Encryption < DIR > 9-Apr-93 Internet < DIR > 10-Apr-93 Everything about the InterNet MindVox < DIR > 9-Apr-93 Help and Information about MindVox Security < DIR > 9-Apr-93 Computer Security TheArts < DIR > 9-Apr-93 Film, Music, Theatre and Fiction Uploads < DIR > 29-Apr-93 VR < DIR > 9-Apr-93 Virtual Reality and its Impact Virus < DIR > 9-Apr-93 Articles and Papers about Viruses Current Directory: [Archives] [Archives]: Change Directory: CTBERPUNK        YBERUN  PUNK No such directory. 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You want to know the truth. We want to tell it to you.Let's try to keep the ECONOMICS between us to a minimum, okay? Right, let'sdo it.** QUEST FOR DECAY ** As American SF lies in a reptilian torpor, its small, squishy cousin,Fantasy, creeps gecko-like across the bookstands. Dreaming of dragon-hood,Fantasy has puffed itself up with air like a Mojave chuckwalla. SF'scollapse had formed a vacuum that forces Fantasy into a painful and explosivebloat. Short stories, crippled with the bends, expand into whole hideoustrilogies as hollow as nickel gumballs. Even poor Stephen Donaldson, whostruggles to atone for his literary crimes with wet hippy sincerity, has beenforced to re-xerox his Tolkien pastiches and doubly insult the public. AsRobert E. Howard spins in his grave, the Chryslers of publishing attachrotors to his head and feet and use him to power the presses. But the editors have eaten sour grapes and the writers' teeth are on-- more -- edge. Fantasy, for too long the vapid playground of McCaffreyiteunicorn-cuddlers and insect-eating SCA freaks, has some new and dangerousborderlands. Suddenly, perhaps out of sheer frustration, fantasy hasmovement and color again. It is the squirming movement of corruption and thebright sheen of decay.** Some Examples ** NIFFT THE LEAN by Michael Shea. DAW, $2.95. Jack Vance's acolyte,author of the apprentice work QUEST FOR SIMBILIS, Shea has suddenly andfearsomely come into his own. This astonishing work shows a furiousimaginative concentration that is impressive and even appalling. Thelegitimate heir of Vance, Leiber, and Clark Ashton Smith, Shea rips aside thepolite, smirking ironies of these polished writers and shows us a crawling,boiling vision of the demonic. He is a Fender Stratocaster to Vance'sStradivarius. For those familiar with Vance's work, the effect is odd anddisquieting, like seeing a favorite uncle stumble in, blasted on bad acid andmumbling cosmis obscenities. There are supernatural horrors here that makeCthulhu and his boys look as tame as pinstriped bankers. Hell itself, itsdenizens and environs, are captured with a revolting nicety of detail and-- more -- Current Directory: [Archives/Cyberpunk/Journals/CheapTruth] [Archives]: Returned to previous directory. Current Directory: [Archives/Cyberpunk/Journals] [Archives]: Directory: * CheapTruth < DIR > 19-Nov-92 ScreamBaby < DIR > 9-Feb-93 Vanguard < DIR > 10-Jan-93 Current Directory: [Archives/Cyberpunk/Journals] [Archives]: Send: ScreamBaby 4 blocks, 1k, with Z protocol rz **B00000000000000 Š Got CAN waiting to send file sz 3.11 02-26-91 finished. < UNSUCCESSFUL TRANSFER > Current Directory: [Archives/Cyberpunk/Journals] [Archives]: Current Directory: [Archives/Cyberpunk/Journals] [Archives]: Current Directory: [Archives/Cyberpunk/Journals] [Archives]: Change Directory: Sream    creamBaby Current Directory: [Archives/Cyberpunk/Journals/ScreamBaby] [Archives]: Directory: * scream-baby.dec92 12542 30-Dec-92 scream-baby.jan 0 5-Jan-93 scream-baby.jan93 36626 4-Jan-93 scream-baby.nov92 32734 30-Dec-92 scream-baby.oct92 29957 30-Dec-92 scream-baby.sep92 39178 30-Dec-92 Current Directory: [Archives/Cyberpunk/Journals/ScreamBaby] [Archives]: View: scream-baby.dec92 _____________________________________ | | | I've got just four words to say to | | those who are [dissing] Jagwire X's | | Autopia Project : | | | | "Get Your Own Boat" | | -- polekat | |_____________________________________| babybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybaby babybabyb ybab aby byba abyb bybab ybabybaby babybaby bybabyba babybaby byb yba babybaby byb yba ba ba babybaby babybabyb byba babybaby yba aby yba ba ba babybaby babybabybabyb yba babybaby byb yba babybaby byb yba ba ba babybaby babybaby bybab aby byb yba aby byb yba ba ba babybaby babybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybabybaby Talking Raven Re:view December 16, 1992 -- more -- "Take all you want....I'll make more" __________________________________________________________________________ | | | Cyberlicious | Editor : Blade X | The Bamboo Gardens | | PO Box 4510 | bladex@wixer.cactus.org | (512) 385-2941 | | Austin, TX 78765 | Neo-Wobblie Node # 269 | WWIV : 46@5285 | |__________________________________________________________________________| EDIBORIAL This was supposed to be a simple letter to the Scream Baby subscribers. Hi! I'm going to Yew*stun for Xmas Con this weekend... Let's do launch if our spheres collide; was all this needed to be. Maybe toss in an interesting line noise or two. Perhaps a brief eulogy for my friend Sandeep. Seems he was hiking in New Mexico and was excited about seeing snow for the fourth time in his life. [Sandeep was from India] He ran ahead of his group, got separated, got lost, -- more -- and died of hypothermia that night. To put it in perspective, re:alize that Sandeep contracted a rare neurological disorder six months ago. He woke up not being able to feel or move his legs, the victim of a mystery-to-medicine. Being in New Mexico was a celebration of months of successful rehabilitation. People die every day. You will die someday soon sorry to spoil the secret. But dying out of excitement to explore the universe......it could be worse. Walk it like ya talk it. Thanx for the lesson, Sandeep. ____________________________________ | | | It could have been "Walter" Gibson | | | | -- Paco | |____________________________________| -- more -- TALKING RAVEN THE JOURNAL OF IMAGINATIVE TROUBLE Talking Raven : The Journal of Imaginative Trouble Vol II, #1 Summer Solstice 1992. Distributed free on the streets of Seattle. By snailmail $2 USD in America, $5 USD anyplace else. The theme of this issue is "Virtual Reality : Close But No Cigar." Editor Antero Alli claims this to be "our cyberpunk satire, a rebellion against those simulated realities and media illusions which....fail to move the imagination." If satire is what Talking Raven sought, then consider this issue a miserable failure. This satire issue is super-charged concentrate; Antero Alli's writings reveal a Prime A Grade Cyberpunk. "From the Editor's Monitor" rants about virtual reality (more on that later) and ends with an advocation to "Turn off the TV and make your own movies" People seizing methods of producing mass media for themselves? A call to "turn off the TV and make your own movies....shoot the news or make the news....but get out there and DO SOMETHING"? -- more -- Nope, not cyberpunk! Another article explores the connections between advertising and black magic(k). Sean Kilpatrick explains how television commercials use the same methods that Aleister Crowley's espoused concerning the shaping of Will (re:ality). Antero Alli pops up again with an essay on "How To See Through Advertising" Television as a major form of thought control? Arming the viewer with knowledge in order to defend against the influence of advertising? Nope, not cyberpunk! The re-structuring of economic value from product to information? Nope, not cyberpunk! This isn't a satire; this is pure, unexpurgated cyberpunk. It ain't perfect, just damn interesting. -- more -- The knock against virtual reality essentially claims that VR ain't cyberpunk *enough*. One of the identifying characteristics of New Edge technology is individual personal control. How many of you can program a virtual reality environment? How many of you think you'll be able to do so in less than 20 years? Not I. Sure, nickel and dime stuff, but there is such a wide chasm between possibility and plausibility that I'll look for other ledges to leap. For all the rhetoric on individual emancipation, for all the rhetoric on DIY, 99% of the population will be plugging in pre-prepared Babbage's bubble shrink wrap slag. A rail against the commodification of cyberspace? Nope, not cyberpunk! -- end of review -- ______________________________________________ | | | There are some who still believe in reality. | -- more -- | Believe in re:ality. | |______________________________________________| -- beginning of re:view -- ____________________________ | | | Re:ality is the sum of the | | spheres of reality. | |____________________________| The history of humanity is the clan/family. Individuals had little contact with other realities -- and cultural exchange was more likely to involve weapons of destruction than literature when one walked into the walls of a different reality tunnel. Today we are flooded. Not satisfied with a single perspective, thought, belief, and culture, communication technology strives to represent the realities of every single human on the planet. No corner of the globe too distant to explore, no ugly seam at home too disturbing to ignore. -- more -- Current Directory: [Archives/Cyberpunk/Journals/ScreamBaby] [Archives]: Returned to previous directory. Current Directory: [Archives/Cyberpunk/Journals] [Archives]: Directory: * CheapTruth < DIR > 19-Nov-92 ScreamBaby < DIR > 9-Feb-93 Vanguard < DIR > 10-Jan-93 Current Directory: [Archives/Cyberpunk/Journals] [Archives]: Change Directory: Vanguard Current Directory: [Archives/Cyberpunk/Journals/Vanguard] [Archives]: Directory: * vanguard.01 64465 10-Jan-93 Current Directory: [Archives/Cyberpunk/Journals/Vanguard] [Archives]: View: n vanguard.01 Copyright 1992, Vanguard Productions WELCOME to the first issue of CYBERSPACE VANGUARD! Despite the name, CV is NOT a magazine about or in any way related to cyberpunk. We chose the name simply because "cyberspace" is quickly becoming the 90's word for the world of electronic communications. CV will cover pretty much anything that's of interest to the science fiction community, regardless of what it is. We're open to submissions from anyone, regardless of experience. The writing is judged SOLELY on its quality. For writers' guidelines, write to cn577@cleveland.freenet.edu or, for those of you who prefer to communicate on paper, you can write to us at: Cyberspace Vanguard PO Box 25704 -- more -- Garfield Heights, OH 44125 USA But enough about that. This month we've brought you interviews with Jeff Kaake of Space Rangers, Peter Donat of the upcoming show TIME TRAX, J. Michael Straczynski, creator of BABYLON 5, and Eric Radomski, producer of BATMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES. (What can we say, it's a big month for TV!) We've also brought you, in the words of one of our readers, "more news than hours of net surfing." All this is just the beginning. We need YOUR input to help make Cyberspace Vanguard THE source of SF news. Tell us what you like about it, what you hate about it, but most of all, what you think would improve it. So that we don't wind up with scores of copies of the magazine inadvertently quoted back to our mailbox, we've posted an electronic reply card immediately after this post. Oh, and a note to other editors: CV is registered with the United States Copyright Office. We don't mind you quoting us, but we must insist on credit being given. All rights -- more -- Current Directory: [Archives/Cyberpunk/Journals/Vanguard] [Archives]: Current Directory: [Archives/Cyberpunk/Journals/Vanguard] [Archives]: Returned to previous directory. Current Directory: [Archives/Cyberpunk/Journals] [Archives]: Returned to previous directory. 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Current Directory: [Archives/Cyberpunk/FutureCulture] [Archives]: View: FC-faq.p1 _____________________ ____________________ / __________________/ / ________________/ / /____________ / / / ____________/ / / / / / /_______________ /__/ uture /__________________/ ulture ___________________________________________________________________ | | | Tomorrow's Reality Today..... | |___________________________________________________________________| A somewhat-definitive guide to resources bringing you the future..... updated: October.23.1992 _______________________________________________________________________________ Requests to FutureCulture must be sent to: future-request@nyx.cs.du.edu -- more -- The subject must have one of the following: subscribe realtime -subscribe in realtime (reflector) format subscribe digest -subscribe in daily-digest (1 msg / day format) subscribe faq -subscribe to faq only (1 msg every few months) unsubscribe realtime unsubscribe digest unsubscribe faq send info -receive info on the FutureCulture mailing list send faq -this file (list subscribers automatically receive a copy) FutureCulture list maintainer and keeper of this FAQ hawkeye (andy) ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu _______________________________________________________________________________ While no article that attempts to document an entire emerging subculture can be complete, I will do my best to give you enough complete and accurate information to get you on your way to the future. -- more -- This article will focus mainly on cyberpunk culture, rave culture, industrial, post po-mo, virtual reality, drugs, computer underground, etc. Basically, the elements that make up the developing techno-underground, the new edge, the technoculture. Included in this article will be: suggested readings -- books, magazines, zines, requisite authors, etc., BBSes devoted to relevant topics, corporations and merchandise geared toward the techno-aware, Internet e-mail addresses for relevant figure-heads in this area, suggested music and movies/videos, FTP sites, etc. I will do my best to update this article every so often, as the techno-underground is not stagnant and is always shifting and changing and moving forward. If you have any complaints/comments/suggestions/errors or just wanna send someone mail, write to me on the Internet - ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu. I also welcome addition requests and such - feel free to say "hey man, add blah-blah to the list!" -----all the information contained in this article is for information purposes only - I am not responsible for anything but me and all that - I disclaim everything I possibly can and all that other stuff -- more -- -----many thanks go out to The Butler for his article "An Introduction to the Computer Underground", which was an invaluable resource and model! ______________________________________________________________________________ If you find this file useful and think it is a worthwhile endeavor, please send a couple dollars to: Andy Hawks 4290 South Mobile Circle Apt. D Aurora, CO 80013 USA The money is used to help finance the research that goes into this file - i.e.: sending away for zines, information from companies, etc. Research, I've found at my own expense, can be very costly and time-consuming, and it will be almost impossible for me to continue this venture without outside support. ______________________________________________________________________________ We are the music makers. And we are the dreamers of the dreams. :::::Wille Wonka and the Chocolate Factory Time just ain't doing what it used to do. -- more -- ::::::Bernard Sumner w/ 808 State Reality is for people who can't handle drugs. ::::::the masses The cyberpunks did not originate their vision, but picked up bits and pieces of what was actually coming true, and fed it back to the readers who were already living in Gibson's Sprawl, whether they knew it or not. ::::::Steve Brown Information wants to be free. Believe it, pal. ::::::Bruce Sterling If only you could see what I've seen through your eyes ::::::Blade Runner They made LSD illegal - I wonder what they'll do with this. ::::::Jerry Garcia on Virtual Reality We've discovered Cyberotica!!!!! ::::::The Shaman at a Rave with RU Sirius -- more -- The techno-underground is a direct descendant of the hippy revolution. ::::::Select Magazine (April .92) Cyberpunks use all available data input to think for themselves. ::::::Timothy Leary "Thus the most repressed sector of society acquires a paradoxical power through the myth of its occult and knowledge." [Hakim Bey]. Gibson & Burroughs & Lewis Shriner & Norman Spinrad & Bruce Sterling created the perfect term -- CYBERPUNK! "The odd occult shadow still haunts" the civilized, industrial culture. Here is the marvelous paradox of VR/Cyberpunk: Big high-tech firms fighting the myth of "electronic LSD." Jaron Lanier as wizard with dreadlocks! Eric Gullichsen - student of Crowley! Mondo 2000! Gibson and his data rustlers! ::::::Timothy Leary ______________________________________________________________________________ | | | Contents: | |______________| -- more -- ::::: * Part 1 intro quotes contents cultural literacy magazines (hardcopy) electronic zines and digests electronic-essays ::::: * Part 2 usenet newsgroups e-mail addresses internet bbses and services ftp sites bbses books videos music drugs -- more -- companies/merchandise closing ______________________________________________________________________________ | | | Cultural Literacy | |______________________| Agrippa: A Book of the Dead - A collaboration between author [William Gibson], publisher Kevin Begos Jr, and artist Dennis Ashbaugh. This art-work contains engravings by Ashbaugh which appear or disappear in light and an on-disk semi-autobiographical poem by [William Gibson] which is unreadable after having been read once. Agrippa is notable because in many respects it blurs the lines about what art is, and adds fuel to the fire on issues of property rights and intellectual property. BBSes - electronic Bulletin Board Systems. Begun in the late 70's, a form of [virtual community] existing in [cyberspace] where participants (usually using aliases) may send and receive public and private messages to each other on any topic imaginable, transfer software (copyrighted and/or public -- more -- domain), play on-line games, etc. There is the "over-ground" BBS world where aliases are less common and illegal activities are avoided in discussion, and the [{computer} underground] where illegal activities and discussions are very common, members use aliases, and illegal information and/or software is exchanged. Boxing - A variety of electronic devices used to aid in [phreaking]. The original was the blue box, used from the mid 60's to the mid 80's, which allowed long distance phone calls to be made for free. A variety of other similar instruments accomplishing different tasks have been developed, some purely comical, some quite practical. CC fraud - Credit Card or Calling Card fraud. common in the [computer underground] community. Chaos Theory - science revolving around simplistic equations involving a large number of variables. Gave rise to [fractals], a form of [cyberdelic] art. For further info on the subject, James Gleick's "Chaos: Making a New Science" is suggested. -- more -- Computer Underground - "A group organized in secrecy, hidden behind aliases, to promote the free exchange of information regarding anything and everything including, but not limited to: computers, telephones, radios, chemicals, and ideas." (thanx to The Butler for this definition) The mainstay of communication for the computer underground is [cyberspace], more specifically [BBSes]. The computer underground is comprised of [hackers], [phreakers], [piraters], anarchists, and other [cyberpunks]. CP - see [cyberpunk]. Cryonics - The fringe science of freezing a person's head or whole body after death, in the hopes that in the future they may be revived and brought back to life. Cyber- - A prefix taken from [cybernetics] generally used in popular culture to mean anything that is technologically oriented. Cyberdeck - Term originated by [William Gibson] to refer to a computer used by [deck cowboys] that can connect to the -- more -- [matrix]. Cyberdelic - "Cyber-art". Examples include [fractals], computer-generated pictures and/or music, [virtual worlds], etc. Cybernetics - The study of communication systems in living organisms and machines, the mathematical analysis of the flow of information. Cyberpunk - Begun as a literary movement in the 80's, an off-shoot of normal science fiction. Unique in that it generally occurs in the present or not so distant future, the characters are often considered "punks" and technology, (the cyber aspect), is prominent. "Neuromancer" by [William Gibson], published in 1984, is considered by most to be the "bible" of cyberpunk. Another prominent author is [Bruce Sterling], editor of another worthy cyberpunk collection, "Mirrorshades". Other examples of cyberpunk include Max Headroom (tv show) and Blade Runner (movie). Cyberpunk is special in that it has evolved from a purely literary movement to a realistic subculture. Many "techno-punks" -- more -- (ie: [hackers]) are considered cyberpunks. Other contributing factors to the cyberpunk subculture include: virtual reality, hallucinogenic and [nootropic] drugs, and industrial and punk music. For an in-depth, detailed look at cyberpunk fiction and cyberpunk culture, "Storming the Reality Studio", ed. by Larry McCaffery is suggested. Cyberspace - "The electronic frontier." A completely virtual environment: the sum total of all [BBSes], computer networks, and other [virtual communities]. Unique in that it is constantly being changed, exists only virtually, can be practically infinite in "size", communication occurs instantaneously world-wide - physical location is completely irrelevant most of the time. Deck Cowboys - Futuristic version of a computer [hacker] or a modern-day [cyberpunk]. Electronic Frontier Foundation - (EFF). Organization founded by Mitch Kapor (of Lotus fame) and John Perry Barlow (writer and Grateful Dead songwriter) to establish laws for [cyberspace] -- more -- and apply the constitution to [virtual communities]. Fractals - Images created using [chaos theory]. A mish-mash of colors presented in a pattern that repeats itself many times over. A popular type of fractal image is one created using the "Mandlebrot set". Fractals are considered [cyberdelic] art. Gibson, William - Considered by most to be the "father" of [cyberpunk], along with [Bruce Sterling]. His works include the infamous "Neuromancer", "Count Zero", "Mona Lisa Overdrive" (these 3 works are known as the [sprawl] series), "The Difference Engine" with which he was co-author with [Bruce Sterling], and "Burning Chrome" a collection of short stories. Hist latest work is a poem in "[Agrippa: A Book of the Dead]". Gibson says he will no longer be writing the "classic" [cyberpunk] novels he is famous for. Hacker - 60's (1st) generation (orig. MIT): one who tinkers with software, electronics, computer hardware, etc. 80's (2nd) [WarGames] generation: one who enters computer systems without permission with either malicious or non-malicious -- more -- intent, to gain, alter, or destroy information (labelled as [crackers] by the 60's generation). 90's (3rd) generation: often called [cyberpunks], mostly non-malicious [crackers] interested in information for the sake of information, and not hacking for the sake of the hack - sometimes calling themselves "information liberators", they have re-adopted more of the original hacker ethic of the 60's which states mainly "all information should be free", "access to computers should be unlimited and total" and "promote decentralization". This new, 3rd generation is commonly associated with the computer underground, despite its mostly non-malicious intent. Industrial - A subculture revolving around industrial music, a collection of mostly electronically created sounds and samples that results in a fierce explosion of sound labelled by many as "the new punk". This subculture is generally anti-political, anti-aesthetic in nature. Internet - A large and very popular world-wide computer network begun by the Defense Department in the 60's that connects educational institutions, corporations, organizations, and -- more -- Current Directory: [Archives/Cyberpunk/FutureCulture] [Archives]: View: FC-faq.p2 _____________________________________________________________________________ ::: * Begin FutureCulture FAQ Part 2 (of 2) c o n t i n u a t i o n o f p a r t 1 ______________________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________________ | | | Usenet Newsgroups: | |______________________| (list of newsgroups one might find interesting...These change often, especially the 'alt' groups, so please check the newsgroups file on your site for more info) alt.artcom Artistic Community, arts & communication. alt.bbs.ads Ads for various computer BBS's. alt.bbs.internet BBS systems accessible via the Internet. alt.comp.acad-freedom.news Academic freedom issues related to computers. alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk Academic freedom issues related to computers. alt.consciousness All aspects of consciousness -- more -- alt.cyberpunk High-tech low-life. alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo Literary virtual reality in a cyberpunk hangout. alt.cyberpunk.movement Cybernizing the Universe. alt.cyberpunk.tech Cyberspace and Cyberpunk technology. alt.cyberspace and how it should work. alt.dcom.telecom Discussion of telecommunications technology. alt.drugs Recreational pharmaceuticals and related flames. alt.drugs.usenet Many things are addictive besides pills. alt.fractals Fractals in math, graphics, and art. alt.gothic The gothic movement: things mournful and dark. alt.hackers Descriptions of projects currently under development. alt.hackers.malicios Bad hackers. alt.individualism Individualist discussions alt.industrial The Industrial Computing Society. alt.internet.access.wanted People looking for internet access alt.internet.services Internet services alt.manga Discussion of non-Western comics. alt.paranormal Phenomena which are not scientifically explicable. alt.postm