Original Message Date: 16 Aug 92 18:19:50 From: Uucp on 1:105/42 To: Tom Jennings on 1:125/111 Subj: Re: Stop From m2xenix!rain.psg.com!randy From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) To: Matt.Whelan@f1000.n3.z3.fidonet.org (Matt Whelan) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 18:15:50 PDT Cc: tom.jennings@f111.n125.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Jennings), Hi Matt! > I no longer agree, and do not support it. Well, I'll remember what kind of turncoat friend you can be. Next thing we know, you'll revive IFNA and make Thom Henderdweeb chair of FSC. Problem is that Ron could fuck up the most reasonable of plans or policies. He has the Midas touch, everything he touches turns to mufflers (American joke, Midas Mufflers is a nationwide car repair ripoff place). I have never been a supporter of overlapping nets. But I am willing to discuss it with Henk until he sees reason. The way I see it, Henk and I are only three or four years into our discussion of the problem. I figure that Henk sees reason slowly . > If I must, I will approve the introduction of regional policies in Zone 2. Bad precedent. I would not want to deal with my RC with such a precedent set. Have Ron taken out and drowned in his own beer, it's simpler. > The juvenile delinquent you have installed as RC28 must be removed. Frank van der Loo drilled my ear for 3/4 of an hour on the phone yesterday, despite my telling him that the more he talked the less I thought of him. What really threw him was when I told him that I thought he was an absolute fool and acting like an ass, but I would give him an echo feed as long as he polled me. He still did not understand, even when I told him that spending $3000/month might make him wiser much faster. Maybe the Dutch are just slow learners. :-) > Attacking me won't achieve anything, so don't bother. But it's such fun! Call when you're in the States. I may be in Bostonm end of next week. Will be in Bay Area 24-25 Aug, but not much free time (except maybe Sun night). I now have a cellular to which my office phone forwards (503) 690-3648. Would love to gossip, but not too much about Z2 games. They're a bit booooring. But I guess that they have to be stopped. randy Original Message Date: 17 Aug 92 05:43:05 From: Uucp on 1:105/42 To: Tom Jennings on 1:125/111 Subj: Re: Oh, just called to complain... I have this crick in my neck... From m2xenix!rain.psg.com!randy From: randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) To: Tom.Jennings@f111.n125.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Jennings) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 4:50:00 PDT > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 12:48:04 PST Five days to get through. Ugh. And likely it was because I called you. We have a real problem. > I am pissed off at "Henks side" (sic) just slightly less than "Ron's > Side" (sic). The best attribute of Henk's side is that they actually follow our agreement not to tell me about it all. But in this one, Henk seems to have the support of Joop Mellart and Peter Janssens, his classic enemies; this is a serious sign. > Plus I've got a rant about technophillic offline-readeritis. Be sure to mention that those fucking offline readers feel the need to add major undectable/deletable brag lines, which look absolutely juvenile and embarrassing when gated to internet. randy Original Message Date: 16 Aug 92 18:19:46 From: Uucp on 1:105/42 To: Tom Jennings on 1:125/111 Subj: Z2, region 28, Ron Dwight From m2xenix!rain.psg.com!rain.psg.com!rain.psg.com!fido From: Matt.Whelan@f1000.n3.z3.fidonet.org (Matt Whelan) To: randy@psg.com Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 08:40:02 PST * Original to Tom Jennings @ 1:125/111.0 * Forwarded 17 Aug 92 09:33:08 by Matt Whelan @ 3:3/1000.0 Tom, Wanted to talk to you, guess what subject? > Matt -- do you have an opinion on what Ron Dwight is doing? It sure I'm flying out for New York shortly. Will call you as soon as I can from there. Yes, I want to stop Mr. D. Regards, Matt -- uucp: uunet!m2xenix!puddle!3!3!1000!Matt.Whelan Internet: Matt.Whelan@f1000.n3.z3.fidonet.org Original Message Date: 16 Aug 92 18:19:45 From: Uucp on 1:105/42 To: Tom Jennings on 1:125/111 Subj: Stop From m2xenix!rain.psg.com!rain.psg.com!rain.psg.com!fido From: Matt.Whelan@f1000.n3.z3.fidonet.org (Matt Whelan) To: randy@psg.com Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 08:49:29 PST * Original to Ron Dwight @ 2:220/22.0 * Forwarded 17 Aug 92 09:33:34 by Matt Whelan @ 3:3/1000.0 CC: Tom Jennings Henk Wevers Hanno van der Maas ZCC echo WARNING to all: I am about to get on a plane to New York. Contact may be intermittent for a few days. Ron, I agreed initially with your proposal to 'reorganise' Zone 2. I no longer agree, and do not support it. Don't claim you were relying on my support, either -- since those early messages I have several times cautioned you about the upheaval you would create, and asked you to back off. I consider the situation in Region 28 unacceptable, and will take whatever steps necessary and available to me to calm things down. If I must, I will approve the introduction of regional policies in Zone 2. The juvenile delinquent you have installed as RC28 must be removed. I insist you revert to the 'pre-war' status in all Regions until this is resolved. It can be resolved by: 1) Presenting your case to the Zone Coordinators Council and getting their agreement to overrule me. 2) Modifying your approach. Attacking me won't achieve anything, so don't bother. Regards Matt -- uucp: uunet!m2xenix!puddle!3!3!1000!Matt.Whelan Internet: Matt.Whelan@f1000.n3.z3.fidonet.org