PROTOCOL: ALT COMPRESSION: NONE CONNECT 2400/ARQ CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 04/24/93 23:54:12 ++LINE > 9 LONG - truncated, return to ACCEPT, ^U to RE-ENTER: ^^^^^^^^^^U ?^U ?^U ?^U ?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss Logging name to disk... You are caller 229528; next msg =46219; 375 active msgs. Prev. call 04/21/93 @ 21:10, next msg was 46213 Recording logon for next time. Use FULL? to check assignments ?^U ?xxxxx "Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to >Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short LOG. 11 KILLED. 66 SUMMARY. 25 04/21/93,21:10:38,229504,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, E#46213,3 04/21/93,21:20:07,229505,2,SUNIL VASA,CHICAGO,7 04/21/93,21:27:55,229506,2,D D,HH, 04/21/93,21:35:32,229507,2,S SS,sg, 04/21/93,21:42:24,229508,2,SUNIL VASA,, >Help: MODEM WANT TO LEARNU, >Help: SDOWNLOAD,13 04/22/93,00:53:15,229509,2,BILL PRECHT,,0 04/22/93,04:21:26,229510,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,, E#46214, E#46215,10 04/22/93,08:19:07,229511,2,BILL MATTSON,, E#46216,14 04/22/93,09:10:11,229512,2,DAVID HAGEN,,2 04/22/93,10:38:51,229513,2,PETE JONES,,1 04/22/93,11:57:13,229514,2,BRIAN SKONNING,GREEN BAY/WI,4 04/22/93,23:46:31,229515,2,CYRUS PATEL,,4 04/23/93,11:50:48,229516,2,RANDY IMAGEN,,1 04/23/93,13:35:04,229517,2,SCOTT BRKOVICH,CHICAGO/ IL,2 04/23/93,14:50:44,229518,2,DONNIE STUHLMAN,,3 04/23/93,17:44:12,229519,2,GARY ELFRING,,2 04/23/93,18:22:13,229520,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,1 04/23/93,23:39:31,229521,2,CHARLES BERG,Shenorock/ NY,11 04/24/93,00:06:39,229522,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,, E#46217, E#46218,6 04/24/93,06:47:31,229523,2,DAVID GIBBS,,2 04/24/93,14:41:49,229524,2,LAWRENCE LEVINE,,1 04/24/93,21:11:22,229525,2,KEVIN LINDSTROM,Plainfield,2 04/24/93,21:52:11,229526,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 04/24/93,23:35:34,229527,2,CYRUS PATEL,,1 04/24/93,23:54:16,229528,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 46213 04/21/93 WARD CHRISTENSEN => BRIAN AVERY: "R/PITTSBURGH" 46214 04/22/93 ERIC BOHLMAN => BILL MATTSON: "68000" 46215 04/22/93 ERIC BOHLMAN => WARD/ALL: "VOICE INPUT" 46216 04/22/93 BILL MATTSON => ERIC BOHLMAN: "R/68000" 46217 04/24/93 MICHAEL SHARTIAG => ALL: "IDE SPEED/TIMING/LAPTOPS" 46218 04/24/93 MICHAEL SHARTIAG => ALL: "IDE (CONT)" - End of summary - Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts. Msg 46213 is 02 line(s) on 04/21/93 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to BRIAN AVERY re: R/PITTSBURGH I think the Computer Shopper has a BBS listing by area - might check one out when you're in a store to verify if this is still true. Msg 46214 is 02 line(s) on 04/22/93 from ERIC BOHLMAN to BILL MATTSON re: 68000 I can do you one better: I've still got a 4-MHZ one lying around (no plastic box, though). Msg 46215 is 13 line(s) on 04/22/93 from ERIC BOHLMAN to WARD/ALL re: VOICE INPUT I've had a chance to play around a little with Voice Blaster, a hardware/ software combo from Covox that lets you use a SoundBlaster or clone for voice input. It can recognize up to 1023 words at a time (though they admit that speed and accuracy will be poor with such a large vocabulary). It's speaker-dependent and requires training. I've had mixed results with it, but they admit that support for the PAS-16 sound card that I have isn't quite there. I haven't had time to open up the machine and stick the old SoundBlaster back in and try it out (it has a test function that lets you play back the word that it tried to recognize, and I found that with the PAS it was chopping words up). Cost $69.95 at Comp Usa. Might be useful for entering control-key sequences or the like without straining the wrists (it also works well with a word-predictor program I sell). Current support is DOS only, though they've promised a Windows version. Msg 46216 is 08 line(s) on 04/22/93 from BILL MATTSON to ERIC BOHLMAN re: R/68000 Yeh.It's the presentation box that really makes it. Consider a trade? Just kidding. We sure have come a long way since the 1-mhz 8080. Actually my first was a .5-mhz Signetics 2650 that only addressed 32K, nice instruction set, though. Built it myself from bare boards. It kind of troubles me to see all the for-fee BBS's that popped up later on, consid- ering that the cost of iron has steadily declined.but then we never contemplated storing gaggabytes of 6-megabyte word processors with built in harness race handicapping TSR's did we??? Regards. Msg 46217 is 29 line(s) on 04/24/93 from MICHAEL SHARTIAG to ALL re: IDE SPEED/TIMING/LAPTOPS I have been working on updating a Toshiba 1600 from a 20Meg disk to a 120 Meg disk now for several months. I have left several messages concerning what I have found out. I hope that this info may help others who want to do this, and maybe someone will even have a solution now that I can define the problem. This laptop and many of the first several generations produced all used 20 or 40 meg drives (usually Conner's becasue they had the 1" packaging first). These were first generation IDE drives (all manufacturers, which basically combined the ST-506 drive with the Western digitial controller technology. What is important here is that: 1) there was no ANSI standard for IDE as there is today; and 2) the drives used the inerleave value of 3:1 Today there is a standard and the drives are 1:1 and can not be reformatted to any other value. The controllers simply ignore these parameters. What ties all of this together are ther BIOS issues regarding timing on the IDE bus controller. Prior to 1989-90 depending on the company, the BIOS's did not have to concern themselves with this timing problem becasue drives were slow. On desktops you can simply upgrade the BIOS and be done. The laptop vendors have gone with cusomized BIOS's that it seems none of the 3rd party companies have touched. They further have not made the necessary changes themselves. What is occuring is that with 1:1 interleave and burst mode transfers, the data is coming in from the drive faster then the laptop's BIOS is prepared to handle it, and at some point they miss handshakes; the computer waiting for the next acknowledgement, while the drive has already sent it and waiting for the next request: the result is a lockup. (which sometimes will retry in 90 seconds or so at the DOS level sometimes. Msg 46218 is 15 line(s) on 04/24/93 from MICHAEL SHARTIAG to ALL re: IDE (CONT) I finally got to the level of removing all upgrades I had made, and simply swapping the CP-3022 for the newer CP-30104 while only trying to access the new drive as a 20 Meg drive. It still froze: What is needed is a patch or fix or a means of upgrading the BIOS in the laptop. As I am not sure if there is any speed relevant data in the BIOS drive table, this by itself will not be enough (but it would take care of the drive size recognition problem) A company in Calif. is offering to upgrade this T1600 (286 based) machine to a 120 Meg drive for $795 (which is just a little too much of a markup) They will not sell me the BIOS, nor'update' the code on my BIOS chip. Conner says there is nothing I can do to slow down their drive; Toshiba has no newer version of their BIOS available. Where can I find a company selling laptop BIOS upgrades, or how much work would be involved in 'fixing' the current code ?? dup. chars. >Function:?