CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 07/09/91 20:41:46 Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U ?^U ?^U ?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss Logging name to disk... You are caller 222523; next msg =44967; 367 active msgs. Prev. call 07/08/91 @ 21:15, next msg was 44961 Recording logon for next time... Use FULL? to check assignments ?^U ?xxxxx "Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^ >Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short LOG. 10 KILLED. 26 SUMMARY. 24 07/07/91, 07/07/91,21:15:19,222486,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,5 07/07/91,23:34:54,222487,1,ROY LIPSCOMB,,4 07/08/91,21:15:57,222501,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, E#44961,5 07/08/91,21:33:54,222502,3,MURRAY ARNOW,, E#44962,24 07/08/91,22:11:42,222503,9,THOM QUICK,,1 07/08/91,22:16:34,222504,2,DON PIVEN,,0 07/08/91,23:12:06,222505,2,ALA LUKE,, >Help: A,18 ]ward, [A Thank You for your comments and suggestions on helping me with your system. I'm glad you made the output on the screen look alittle cleaner. Bye for now. ALA LUKE, 07/08/91,23:35:00,222506,2,JOHN SERRANO,,3 07/09/91,00:05:51,222507,9,JAMES KARAGANIS,,1 ]JAMES KARAGANIS, 07/09/91,00:51:40,222508,2,CLIFF SHARP,,4 07/09/91,04:38:12,222509,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,4 07/09/91,04:44:19,222510,2,ALEX ZELL,,8 ]Huh? ALEX ZELL, 07/09/91,04:54:10,222511,2,ALEX ZELL,, 07/09/91,07:28:30,222512,2,BILL WOLFF,,3 07/09/91,07:36:15,222513,9,ERIC BOHLMAN,,1 07/09/91,07:56:07,222514,1,TONY VENTICINQUE,bolingbrook il,4 07/09/91,08:08:46,222515,1,EMILY TULL,WAUKEGAN,5 07/09/91,12:12:27,222516,2,STEVE AIDIKONIS,,5 07/09/91,14:36:18,222517,2,BOB JOHNSTON,,1 07/09/91,14:54:02,222518,2,BILL WOLFF,, E#44963, E#44964, E#44965,9 07/09/91,15:05:52,222519,2,BILL WOLFF,,8 07/09/91,18:14:37,222520,1,ANDY SHAPIRO,,2 07/09/91,18:39:20,222521,1,KEVIN CLARK,,6 07/09/91,19:56:45,222522,3,MURRAY ARNOW,, E#44966,13 07/09/91,20:41:51,222523,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 44961 07/08/91 WARD CHRISTENSEN => MICHAEL SHARTIAG: "R/HARD DRIVE WOES" 44962 07/08/91 MURRAY ARNOW => BILL WOLFF: "R/CRT LIFETIMES" 44963X 07/09/91 BILL WOLFF => BILL WOLFF: "R/REFERENCE BOOK" 44964 07/09/91 BILL WOLFF => ERIC BOHLMAN: "R/REFERENCE BOOK" 44965 07/09/91 BILL WOLFF => MURRAY ARNOW: "R/CRT LIFETIMES" 44966 07/09/91 MURRAY ARNOW => BILL WOLFF: "R/CRT LIFETIMES" ---- End of summary ---- Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts. Msg 44961 is 07 line(s) on 07/08/91 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to MICHAEL SHARTIAG re: R/HARD DRIVE WOES I don't begin to fully understand IDE, because I "vaguely" thought there were "XT" IDE drives, and "AT" IDE drives, but from my limited experience, I'd have to say perhaps more that there are "XT" IDE controllers, and "AT" IDE controllers. I merely asked for an 8-bit IDE controller - $47 from CompUSA. Worked like a charm. I was somewhat "spooked" about it working, and bought (from Compu Electronics, a 16-bit combo IDE and floppy controller. It was even cheaper! Msg 44962 is 25 line(s) on 07/08/91 from MURRAY ARNOW to BILL WOLFF re: R/CRT LIFETIMES I don't know how to compare your experience to mine. I've knocked around alot. I did my thesis work in a rather obscure area of experimental atomic physics. I picked a good working knowledge of high vacuum systems, low noise electronics, electron optics, and some engineering skills in the process. After I graduated, I worked for Warneke electron tubes designing RF amplifier tubes. That was abummer. I went back to the universities and banged around from one visiting position to another. The money was lousy and my debts were growing. So back to industry. I went to work for Zenith at their tube manufacturing facility. Did all sorts of non-interesting stuff involving CRT manufacturing. I was then offered a job with a CAT scan manufacturer. The best job I ever had. All state of the art, and I worked with the brightest group of engineers and Ph.D.'s I have ever seen. Incidentally, some of the best engineers were non-degreed. Unfortunately the company went belly up like so many others in the field. I then went to Magnaflux who was interested in starting up an imaging system. They ran out of money and went into hard times, and I was back pounding the pavement. I decided eneough was enough. Zenith hired me back into their R&D facility in Glenview. I thought I would retire from there. But the cloud was still over my head. BAck in Noveember '87 Zenith wiped out all its R&D and 2 floors of employees were beating paths to Unemployment Insurance. Since then I have been consulting, teaching part time, and picking up any job that interests me. Most of the consulting has been computer related, but I am now getting involved in a project out east involving the imaging of radiation leakage from power plants. This should be the most interesting work I've done for some time since it involves developing a new technology. Anyway that is a super brief history of what I have done. No msg 44963 Msg 44964 is 03 line(s) on 07/09/91 from BILL WOLFF to ERIC BOHLMAN re: R/REFERENCE BOOK Hi Eric! That's funny as that's the same place as were I got mine at. Another thing is, other than that one trip, I've never been there since. It was the first and the last trip. Msg 44965 is 30 line(s) on 07/09/91 from BILL WOLFF to MURRAY ARNOW re: R/CRT LIFETIMES Hi Murray! I know what you mean. R&D departments isn't where one usually makes a good living. Also when money gets tight, trimming the R&D department seems to be the first thing to happen. That policy seemed to always get a company in trouble down the line, but I don't make the rules, I just work with them. It's always been that way as long as I can remember. I know of a lot of sad tales about engineers (especially electronic engineeers). Too bad lots of people like this field so much, maybe that is why it can be real tough and maybe that's why you can buy electronics at real bargan prices. An interesting note came my way in school which there was more R&D put into color television than what was put into getting man to the moon. Speaking about getting to the moon, I also worked on the VTAS computer system that was engineered to get man to the moon. No I didn't design it, but used them for navagation in high tech aircraft in the middle 70's. Yes at the time it was sort of over kill. Neat little package (about the size of a standard monitor), though nowadays, it's no big deal. They didn't use wiring harnesses for some reason and used 40 gauge wires all over the bottom side. They ran in a straight line from one point to another, a real mess if some wires had broken off. It was like trying to find a needle in the hay stack. I also noticed that a good number of good engineers didn't have any degrees either. I suppose that didn't help in getting a job either. As usually those without degrees got less money and was usually plentiful in the field. Well it's really tough for just about everyone right now in all fields. I am thinking of doing something totally different myself. It seems that the computer has been also been replacing good engineers. Nowadays, some computers systems are designing curcuits themselves with only minimum information given to it. Who knows what will happen? If computers now can beat the best humans at chess, it may not be long till computers can out design the best engineers? I hope the best for us all. Msg 44966 is 08 line(s) on 07/09/91 from MURRAY ARNOW to BILL WOLFF re: R/CRT LIFETIMES Yah, I guess times are tough all over. The physics community has had a major battle going on over the lack of employment. The youngsters want to kick the old timers out so that they can have their jobs. When times get tough the milk of human kindness has a sour taste to many. Fortunately, I've always kept a number of lines in the water. Something always seems to come along and bite. There's always the option of kissing the world of high tech off and becoming a farmer. As long as you don't want to make a "living" at it. Just sit back and let the "rest of the world go by". No dup. chars. >Function:?