The Room Oriented BBS list December 1989 Nov. 26, 1989 Node Name C Phone Num. S Ba Software Sysop Last -------------------- - ------------ - -- ------------ ----------------- ----- 3cpu 503-246-9712 c 24 STadel3.3b Ed Drury 89Jun 5150 Citadel 414-353-5062 o 12 Cit86 2.17 8th Demension 206-488-1290 c 12 DragCit. ??????? 89May 9 Hells 801-485-5572 o 96 STadel3.3c Synical Sorcerer 89Nov abyss 613-830-1486 c 24 STadel3.3c mutant 89May Acropolis 916-967-5817 o 24 Acropolis Robert Bequette 89Nov Acrylion-SLC 801-943-2325 o 12 STadel-PC HERRING 89Nov Amiga Annals & 315-343-2695 o 12 Citv2.15a Shawn Kelly 89Nov Amiga Archives, The 916-444-9982 o 24 Novucivitas ??????????? 89Nov Amiga Link - line 1 916-682-8872 o 24 Acropolis Lindsey Fong 89Nov Amiga Link - Line 1 916-447-3842 o 24 Acropolis Lindsey Fong 89Nov Amiga Link - Line 2 916-991-8553 o 24 Acropolis Lindsey Fong 89Nov Amiga Link - Line 2 916-447-3843 o 24 Acropolis Lindsey Fong 89Nov Amiga Link - Line 2 916-682-8874 o 24 Acropolis Lindsey Fong 89Nov Arcadia 616-343-0413 o 24 Cit86v3.26 Kip DeGraaf 89Nov Artificial Reality 612-774-3354 o ?? ParaCitadel Thomas Katt 89Oct Asylum II,The 916-363-3447 o 12 Asgard-86 ?????????? 89Aug Atlantis 609-778-3747 o ?? CitadelK2NEv Gas Man 89Nov Au Contraire 616-344-5599 o 24 Cit86v3.12 Cristy 89Oct Babel 206-363-8969 o 24 Babel301 Bob Perigo 88Mar BackFence 612-429-5001 p 24 Cit86v3.26 Jimbo 89Nov Bad Sector 612-788-2741 o 12 Cit86v3.26 Biko Mack 89Nov Bakery BBS, The 612-925-0900 o 24 STadelv3.3c Al Iverson 89Aug Base 1 Tandy Centre 902-469-3496 o 24 Cit86v3.24 James Keats 89Nov Baud 902-434-1482 o 12 STadel3.3a Len MacGillivary 89Aug Bauhaus BBS 206-672-0956 o 24 STadel3.3 Devin Cook 89Mar Beach,The 616-349-5887 ? 24 Cit86v3.26 Lunatic Surfer 89Nov Bermuda 206-771-8420 o 24 STadel-Ami Glenn Edgar 89Jul Bitsko's Bar & Grill # 801-269-0670 o 19 Unidel Ken MacLeod 89Nov Black Service 612-774-0133 o 12 Citadel+ Janus 89Jul Blade 617-891-7338 o 12 STadel3.3a Laird Popkin 89Jul brass 716-692-3843 o 24 STadelv3.3c Dennis 89Oct Busted Flush 804-495-9549 o 12 Cit ?? Chuck Cafe Dionysus & Co. 206-523-8874 o 30 Cit Callahan's 612-644-2551 o 24 Cit86v3.26 Chilly Willy 89Nov Canada Goose & 902-462-2248 o 12 Cit-86v3.19 John Hutchinson 89Jun Caves of Chaos 206-641-0647 o 24 Henge 2.30b Major Chaos 88Jan Caves of Shadows 206-542-7499 12 CitGrem Ziinx 88Jan Central City 701-776-6400 c 30 Cit Mark Fossum Cerebral Cortex 902-462-7245 o 24 Cit86v3.24 Paul Gauthier 89Nov Challenger 51-1 206-827-0346 o 12 Cit?? ?. 88Jan Cheryl's Velvet Touc 206-937-2957 o 12 MiniBin chess 613-729-3792 c 12 Stadel 3.3c devil's advocate 89May Chez' Spaz 612-895-8035 o 24 Cit86v3.26 your Father 89Nov Citadel-86 Test Sys # 612-470-9635 o 96 Cit86v3.27 Hue, Jr. 89Nov City of Lankhmar 206-885-5266 o 12 Henge 2.30 Grey Mouser Class68 612-932-0743 o 24 STadel Greg Forseth 89Jul Closet of Anxieties 609-953-9215 o 30 Cit64 Cold Winter's Knight 916-487-2819 o 24 STadel Yellow Dragon 89Nov Computer Tutor 217-789-9577 o 24 Cit86v3.24 Bill McDannell 89Oct Critical Condition 317-577-1930 o 24 StadelPC Jason Massey 88May Cryptic Slaughter 206-432-6904 o 12 Cit 1.29a Cryptic Slaughter 88Feb ctex 613-345-4858 o 24 STadel-Ami maverick 89Mar Cuckoo's Nest, The 317-547-8868 c 24 Cit68k 2 Prince Artagel 88Jan Cygnus 607-729-5506 o 96 STadel3.3b Todd Krissel 89Oct CyWorld 916-966-2704 c 24 Novucivitas Cy 89Nov Daft 124 616-323-8124 o 12 Cit86v3.12 ?????????? 88Nov dahbbs & 613-236-1585 c 24 STadel3.3c darts 89May Dark Caves 206-542-7499 o 12 Henge Dark Tower 206-244-1766 o 12 Cit DarkRealm 813-393-4753 o 24 STadel3.3d-2 The Ninja 89Nov Data Dogs 503-935-4605 o 12 STadel3.0b Terry Jenkins 87May Digital Dimension 902-457-1949 o 24 Cit86v3.24 Gordon Smith 89Nov Digital Dungeon 805-683-2436 o 24 MacCit? Jerry Ash 88Oct Dog House BBS, The 612-460-6056 c 24 Cit86v3.26 K-9 89Nov Dragons Den II 916-635-1798 o 12 Sac Cit Vince Seifert 89Aug Dream Park 415-945-7799 o 24 Citadel Number Six 89Nov Dream Park BBS 916-364-0173 o 96 InnerSanctum Cheech Wizard 89Aug Dungeon 609-772-5617 o STadelv3.2 Bob Kifferly 89Jun Eagle Command 201-446-2853 o 12 STadel-Ami James Bearce 88Dec Eagles Roost 201-244-3528 c 24 Cit86 2.17 Pat Climento 88Jul Earl's Castle 916-381-4127 o 12 Sac Cit Jim Earl 89Aug Earl's Castle (Alt) 916-967-1643 o 12 Sac Cit Jim Earl 89Aug Egads 612-753-1622 o 30 Metropolis Helper 87Jul Electronic New York 914-735-9362 o 12 Cit286 Farokh Irani 88Aug Endless Power 317-575-9435 o ?? STadel-PC Jeff Neese 88Oct EOTL 612-687-9675 o 24 Cit-68kv2.15 Scorpio 89Oct Exotic 206-367-8242 c 12 Henge 2.26 The Ninja 87Jun Fifth Dimension,The 214-416-6833 o 24 CitGrem Maher Maso 87Jun Floydian Slip,The 602-246-8745 o 12 STadel3.3a Bert 88Oct Forge, The 206-827-1817 o 12 Cit1.26 Foundation's Edge 916-454-5983 o 12 Asgard-80 Qwerty & Sonja 89Aug Fountain,The 609-461-6039 o 12 K2NE Alan Bowen Full Circle 612-894-9918 o 24 Cit86k2.15b Misha Petrov 89Nov Fwbbs 303-469-4954 o 24 STadel3.3a Jeepster 89Jul gAmiga 916-446-6249 o 24 Acropolis Jon-Jon & Ami Guy 89Aug GatewayNJ 609-931-3014 o 24 STadel3.3d-2 Bob Kifferly 89Nov Genuine Aloha Ukelel 804-421-9134 12 Cit ?? CJ 88Mar Glass Spider, The 315-639-6409 c 24 Cit86v3.20 Aahz 89Aug Great Corrupter 503-236-8311 o 24 Cit86v3.24 clark 89Oct Greenlake Connection 206-782-6669 o 12 Cit Grendel's Abyss 403-439-0229 o 24 Cit/UXv2.23 Dragos Ruiu Guild Hall 615-832-5512 o 24 Cit286 Richard Maurer H-I-T-E-C 206-285-3382 o 12 Henge Hackers H.Q, The 215-255-0480 o 24 STadel-Ami C.J. Mercer 89Mar Hatzlacha 213-466-3861 o 12 Henge 2.30 Roger Tuttle 87Jun Health On Line 206-367-8726 o 12 Henge 2.30 Rob C. 87Jun Hotel 86 916-927-7680 o 24 Asgard-86 Gary S. Meadows 89Aug House of Fred 408-373-7601 o 24 Cit86 Fred Rose 89Nov Husker Du & 607-729-1735 o 24 STadel-PC Marc A. Criley 89Apr Hypercube & 317-773-7757 o 24 Cit86 V3 Death by Torture 88Apr Iconoclast 609-234-0442 o ?? K2NEv5.0 ???????? 89Jun Illusions 612-470-1882 o 24 Cit86v3.26 mary mary 89Nov Images at Twilight 612-884-7951 o 24 STadel-Ami Sy Borg 89Oct Infoboard 206-759-4391 o 24 Henge 88Jan Invisible Seattle 206-784-7685 o 12 IdeaTree Mehitabel Ivory Tower 612-425-0554 o 24 Cit86v3.26 Topper 89Nov Jersey Devil, The # 609-893-2152 o 24 K2NE Vince Quaresima 89Jul KAOS 315-735-0545 c 96 Cit86v3.26 Gary Green 89Nov Kronos 403-886-4171 o 24 Cit86v3.24 The Nomad 89Oct Laaz Rockit 513-254-5440 o 24 STadel-Ami3. Red SAVage 89May Labyrinth 616-629-5639 o 12 ???????????? Stiletto 89Nov Land,The 513-254-6811 o 24 STadel-PC3.3 ur-lord 89Oct Library II 206-643-9965 o 24 Henge Lockheed & 902-852-4094 o 12 Cit86v3.12 Chris Forgeron 88Nov Logopolis 916-784-9432 o 24 Novucivitas ??????????? 89Aug Lost Island Desktop 214-276-7499 o 24 Cit? ?.? Dennis Recla 88Dec Lumber Yard 612-431-4807 o 24 Cit86v3.20 Pee Jay 89Jul Luna Free State 317-298-8490 o 12 STadel3.1f Mycroft Holmes 88Mar Lunatic Haven 403-239-1225 o 24 Cit68k2.14k The Dreamer 89Oct MacCitadel Test Sys # 213-820-4320 o 96 Mac Citadel Glen Heinz 89Mar Macross City 805-964-9125 o 12 Henge 2.26 Oreo Cat 87May Mainframe & 206-362-8158 o 12 Cit? ?.? MainFrame 609-586-1823 o 12 K2NE 86Nov Mall,The 902-455-8615 c 12 Cit86v3.15 Dan Johnson 89Oct Mariachee O.F.H 403-481-8984 c 12 Cit86v3.12 bob's yer uncle 88Nov MAST 612-472-6582 o 24 STadel3.3d tacook 89Nov Mayday I 206-523-0462 o 12 InnerSanctum Metal CA 415-820-2177 o 24 STadel Tormentor 89Nov Metal Forge,The & 612-624-3909 o ?? ???????????? Master Zor 89Nov Micro-Systems & 609-546-7839 c 30 Cit86 2.03 86Jan MicroMagic 206-863-1713 c 30 Cit Jason Ward MIDI 612-825-4296 o 24 STadel Lydian Kev 89Oct MMTF 612-729-2236 o 24 Cit86v3.24 Corvair 89Nov moebius 201-968-8235 o 12 Cit 2.16s Andy Meyer 89Nov Moose's Swamp 902-463-0483 o 24 Cit86k2.15 Michael Dinn 89Oct Morningstar Keep 609-853-8010 o K2NEv5.0 ???????????? 89Jun Msg Port & 315-865-4010 o 24 STadel-PC Alcyone 89Nov Muse 916-923-1530 o 24 Asgard-86 Bob Carlstroem 89Aug MVAFIX 315-732-8598 c 24 STadel3.3a frenchy 88Oct naubbs 613-733-4081 c 24 STadel3.3c strad 89May New Eden 612-938-8580 o 12 Cit68kv2.14 Dizzy 89Jul Nightmare & 513-259-0098 o 24 STadel Bob Karmosay 89Sep Nightwing's Realm 206-784-5913 o 24 InnerSanctum Shade Nightwing 89Mar NIIBBS ???-???-???? 12 Cit-86 Bryan Esbaugh 89Nov Nimitz DP 415-276-3677 o 24 STadel3.3b Lady G! & QuInt 89Apr Niteowl & 707-823-3052 o 24 STadel-PCv3. bOb 89Nov Noahs ark 401-246-0504 o 12 Stadel-PC noah NSCC Swamplands 206-527-3650 o 24 DragCit ??????? 89May Nuke The Whales 403-259-5781 c 24 Cit68kv2.15a Ed the Plankton 89Sep Nybble 916-487-2604 o 24 Nybble Happy Hacker 89Aug Ocean Blue 612-831-1492 o 24 Cit86v3.19 Abominog 89Oct Omni 916-386-2521 o 24 Asgard-86 Charles Meadows J 89Aug Outer Limits 206-285-3210 o 30 OLBBS The Great Zod 87Jun overmind 404-659-3014 o 24 STadel3.3d cmc 89Oct Phantasie Land 206-874-2545 o 12 Cit Polaris 214-750-6374 c 12 Cit Clint Wheelock 87Jun PolarServ $ 206-782-5022 o 30 Babel T'an T'u 87Apr POOF 612-784-8643 o 24 STadel3.3c Bugmastah 89Aug Poopsie(Channel 23) 403-288-4481 o 24 STadel3.3b John Edstrom 89Sep Post Office, The 206-546-9158 o 12 Henge 88Jan Pot Of Gold, The 303-761-4039 o 12 STadel3.1e Leprechaun Lord 87Dec Power Alley 315-738-1504 c 12 Cit 3.14 Jan Wielgosz 88Oct ProtoSoft # 206-932-7125 o 12 IdeaTree PyroDyme 916-989-5136 o 24 Novucivitas General Instrumen 89Aug Quest,The 217-546-7608 o 12 AmiDel Dominic Duvall 88Oct Quincunx 403-455-1701 o 24 STadel Not Quite Cricket 88Nov Rabbit Hutch 717-354-5027 24 STadel3.3 John 88Jul Rainbow Bridge 612-776-4138 c 12 Cit86v3.12 SongBird 89Jul RAM BBS 617-327-1181 o 24 ?some homebr Michael Kentley 89Jun RoK (Mycroft) 403-426-1401 o 24 STadel3.3a The Walrus 89Nov Round Table 403-433-0651 o 24 STadel Mr. Neutron 89Nov S.O.S Hack Shack 717-355-9173 o 24 STadel-PC3.3 Steve & Jason 89Jun Samsfolly 415-967-4582 o 24 STadel-PC Andrew Gray 89Jul Sanctuary 206-747-6839 o 12 Henge 2.30a Tempus 87Jun Sanitarium, South 916-444-9982 o 24 Asgard-86 Paranoid Delusion 89Jul Satellite System 206-762-5141 o 12 MiniBin5.5 Jimbo Ryan 89Jan Second City 612-533-9103 o 12 pseudo Shadow Warrior 88Nov Second Foundation 616-383-4736 ? 12 C-68k2.14 ????????????? 88Nov Secret Citadel,The 616-381-3646 o 24 Cit86v3.12 Servant 89Nov Secret Service,The 403-425-1779 o 24 STadel3.3a The Eliminator 89Nov Shadows in the Mist 612-425-1376 o 24 Cit86v3.21 Pariah 89Aug Signals 206-545-4343 o 12 Henge John Shannon 89Mar Sinkhole 203-873-8518 o 24 STadel3.3d-2 Bill.K 89Oct SJ Net House 609-854-1471 o 24 K2NEv5.05 Bob Barkhamer 89Nov Skyline 206-628-3811 o 12 CitGrem Gremlin 88Jan Small Citadel 612-377-2470 o 12 STadelv3.3c Shane Ziegler 89Aug Southern Pass 915-821-6003 o 12 Cit86 2.03 Spectrum 206-355-4340 o 12 Cit Spies In The Wire 408-867-7400 o 24 CitaSim arubin 89Aug Star Base-12 401-949-5311 o o AmiDel3.02b Lonnie Watson 88Sep STone Ground 615-588-3155 o 24 Stadel3.1g Martin Hodge 88Feb StonefiST 902-462-8515 c 12 STadel3.3a Darren Boucher 89May Sudden Impact 206-361-1993 o 12 Cit? ?.? ???????? 88Jan SuperComp III 612-431-1107 o 24 Cit86v3.27 Hue 89Nov Swinger's Den,The 315-735-2058 o 12 Cit86v3.13 Michael Bowen 88Dec Sysop Central 916-363-1171 o 12 Sac Cit Larry Reznick 89Aug Tapestry 206-784-9014 o 12 CitGrem Inyanna 88Jan Tapestry 206-488-0115 o 12 DragCitv3.10 ?????????? 89Jun THE ROC 612-593-1433 o ?? STadel Dr. Science 89Oct Time Arts BBS 707-576-7352 o 24 STadel-PCv3. Bob Lee 89Nov Touch Me Two 206-938-8234 o 12 MiniBin TPT4 408-255-6288 o 24 STadel-PC Mike Leeling 89Nov Tranquility Base 206-525-0497 o 30 MiniBin Tri My Touch 206-827-0346 o 12 Cit? ?.? ???????? 88Jan Troy City & 508-677-4535 c 24 AmiDel3.03 ChrisL 89Aug TUG ECS 206-763-3116 o 12 MiniBin Underground Network 609-275-8582 c 12 K2NE Underworld 206-244-6252 o 24 Henge 2.30 Grim Reaper 87Jun Unknown Kadath 201-615-0214 12 Cit286 Dave Van Cleef Utica College # 315-792-3187 c 96 Cit86v3.26 Thom Brown 89Nov V'ger 214-727-8056 o 12 DragCitv3.10 Malcolm Petcher 89Jun Webhunt 916-456-8641 o 24 Asgard-86 Bill Belon 89Aug WESCAC 206-781-6961 o 12 Citv2.14 Jack Fleming 89Jan Westside Citadel 817-244-3885 o 12 Cit Wicca Citadel 609-893-4076 o 24 K2NEv5.0 Michael L Cottie 89Jun Willie's Place 609-261-4315 o ?? CitadelK2NEv ?????????????? 89Jun Wolf Den 612-469-3296 o 24 Cit86v3.24 Cryo Ruggie 89Oct Wond. World of Loki 902-429-4812 o 12 Cit86kv2.15 Loki 89Nov XAKEPOBO MECTO 206-324-0830 c 12 Henge 2.30 M.Aichlmayr 89Feb Xanadu 206-762-8667 c 12 Henge 2.30 The Muse 87Jun YT&T (YOYODYNE) 916-369-6702 o 24 Citadel Pagan St. Flames 89Aug YUPPIE Haven 801-269-1704 o 24 Cit89v3.18 Fank Insense 89Jul ^ ^ ^ ^ / | |_Baud | / | 12=1200, 24=2400 | Misc. codes: | 30=300, 96=9600 / #= headquarter system | 19=19.2kb Date of $= pay fee for access | latest &= strange hours System access contact c - controlled (Mail to Sysop) o - open p - private (nominations) Systems above are assumed to be up 24 hours unless otherwise noted. Be careful not to call systems with "strange hours" at, say, 2am. Consult the front of your local phonebook about areacodes! * * * * * Corrections/Additions/Changes from the last list dated Nov. 1989 Down Systems : Sanatarum Novu Test System Changes: Lot's of version changes for Cit86 (again (-:) Bitsko's Bar & Grill -new number The rrrRock now listed as RoK (Mycroft) Round Table - new number Additions: The Darkest Realm (DarkRealm) Digital Dimension Message Port (Msg Port) The Metal Forge Wond. World of Loki Metallikatz (Metal CA) REMINDERS: NiteOwl hours: 8:00pm-8:00am Pacific time Troy City hours: 7:00am-12:00am EST Husker Du hours: 10:00am-10:00pm EST Mon-Sat,24hr. Sun Canada Goose hours: 10:00pm-7:00am Amiga Annals hours: 12:00am-6:00am EST The Metal Forge hours: 10:00pm-10:00am Message Port hours: 6:00pm-9:00am Sat. 5:00pm until 9:00am Mon. * * * 1. You must be the Sysop of the system in question. (If you are not the Sysop, ask him/her to send the information.) 2. I need *all* the information at once! (System name, phone number, maximum baud, system software, and Sysop's name). If you can format it to look the way it does in the list, that helps me too. (I currently spend an awful lot of time re-formatting.) 3. Deadline for submissions is the 20th of every month. Send your update to me at one of the following addresses: 4. It seems that when sysops pull the plug on their system, they fail to let anyone know, so the new rule is, If you don't update your system info at least once a year, and I get information that it's down by a reliable source, ie.. Hue Jr., ur-lord,or some other sysop I have known for while.. it will be taken off the list. Where I can be reached : System Name/Alias ================================= The Land Bill.K Sinkhole Bill.K The Land!Sinkhole!Bill.K Also any system carrying Net.Gossip, Citanews or BBS List As usual, constructive comments, suggestions, and ideas are welcome. ********************** SOFTWARE BRIEFS: Acropolis Turbo Pascal room system. AmiDel Citadel for the Amiga by Timelord & Cap'n Dave ATKeep Atari 800XL room system. Asgard-86 NEED ALL the information on this one...Please Babel runs under Unix on a Charles River Data Systems SuperBox V, by T'an T'u of Seattle, WA. (multi-user?) Cit the original CP/M version 2.1x written by Cynbe ru Taren, or some derivative there of. (catch-all category) Cit286 Citadel-286 for MS-DOS machines by Farokh Irani Cit64 Citadel on Commodore 64? Need more input on this one. Cit68k Citadel for the Amiga by Stallion. Cit86 Citadel-86 for MS-DOS systems, by Hue, Jr. of Minneapolis, MN (Zenith Z-100 and PC clones) v2.xx indicates network capable. CitGrem Citadel for MS-DOS by Gremlin. CitSim/WICAT For use with the Wicat multi-user mini DD Digital Dungeon - Citadel for DOS ? NEED MORE INFO !!! FUBARC Yet another variation.......... Henge StoneHenge for MS-DOS systems, by David Bonn of Seattle, WA IdeaTree for MS-DOS systems? by ProtoSoft, Inc. K2NE Citadel-128 for Commodore 128 by Vince Quaresima, also called Citadel:K2NE MiniBin room system (in BASIC?) by Glenn Gorman of Seattle, WA MacCitadel Citadel for the Apple Mac - by Glen Heinz Cit2.16s CP/M Citadel for the SONY neoCit neoCitadel, written in Turbo Pascal by Hue, Sr Novucivitas NEED ALL the information on this one too ... SAC CIT Another one that needs to be updated... STadel Citadel for the Atari ST by orc. STadel-PC Citadel for DOS systems by orc STadel-Ami Citadel for Amiga systems by Eric A. Griff Unidel UNIX/UseNet news reader, multiuser bbs, & UseNet Gateway pseudo Pseudodel for Apple * * * * * ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS: I'd like to thank the following for their help and support : Jim Kershner, aka ur-lord .. as always Hue, Jr., Again ..for all the version updates. George Seto,for keeping Canada up to date. Brent Barrett, for the 916 area code list that came thru the net. * * * * * DISCLAIMER: This list is provided for reference purposes only, and carries no guarantees, implied or otherwise, with regard to the accuracy of the the list. * * * * * NOTE: As a rule, the name used as the system name is the node name, ie.. Sinkhole Utopia is Sinkhole, Message Port is Msg Port, etc... If you want your system listed otherwise, drop me a note in one of the rooms mention above. Also, a lot of systems information is coming across the net with information missing, like phone numbers, software, etc ... Please ...try and follow guideline #2. PERSONAL NOTE: Well, another year has come and gone and I would like to take this time to wish everyone a HAPPY and SAFE HOLIDAY SEASON !!!! -Bill aka Bill.K - Sysop of Sinkhole